/asatru/ - Asatru / Heathenry / Paganism

>>7938

There's also a cosmopolitan undercurrent in early Christianity - it spread among the deracinated proles of the larger cities first, while the country side remained pagan for centuries. Human issues connected to living in cities include social alienation, the sundering of traditions, and out-of-control status signalling: the same issues that spurred the development of Marxism during the industrial revolution.

I'm convinced that Spengler was onto something, calling it the "grandmother of bolshevism". I've started calling it spiritual bolshevism, because where Marxist-Leninists leveraged material circumstances as the ennobling myth for the masses, Paul used the teachings of the Mystery Schools and their doctrine of 'being saved' to work the low self-esteem of the masses.

Imagine a world where elitism is the dominant order of society: the strong rise to the top of the social ladder, the brave shine in the military, the brilliant uphold the sacred arts. And way, way below them, on the level of the street and the catacombs, the masses, though fed and entertained, feel completely left behind in every respect. How tempting Pauline Christianity must be, preaching that none of all that matters once you're chosen because you believe, because you know about the one true faith that supercedes all the previous ones. It's no surprising that the powers-that-were jumped onto that as soon as they figured out what a powerful tool that is.

Tell the lowest of the low that they deserve to be on top, and voilà: a leftward ratchet that develops over centuries and parasitically feeds on a civilisation's very life-blood.

>>7941

Damn straight. This is a good analysis.

My question then, is this: why, if /pol/ is so against the idea of Communism and leftism, are they so blind to the fact that Christianity is as this anon describes?

>>7942

Short answer: For a time, in the early days of Christianity when it was more bound up with European custom, and the Heathen/Pagan worldview, it worked.

In the short term, not only did it work, but it has taken a looooooooong time for the negative aspects to truly manifest. In fact, you could liken Christianity's effect on the West as steroid abuse: in the early period, their were quick and massive gains , but now the ball shrinkage, acne, rage episodes, and heart palpitations have begun.

/pol/lacks and other traditionalist minded Christians basically zero in on this aforementioned early period as being representative of what Christianity is, without paying attention to the big picture.

In other words, they miss the long term state of Europa for the "Muh Cathedrals!"

>>7942

You are generalizing. There are those of us us who know the faultiness and corruption in christianity.

>>7942

A tiny part of /pol/'s Christians are traditional Catholics or Orthodox who believe they can turn the development of their faith around, and return to a more sane period. They essentially like a Christianity that is now attacked by fundamentalists on the same board for being un-Christian.

I think they're weary of completely leaving behind Christianity because they sense it was one of the last institutions to fall to modernism, and to leave it behind is to be completely naked in a dying culture.

Which is a pretty good reason, but I think that the last institution to fall was the family, so we should make our stand there instead. Whether you strengthen the family and its community through Christianity or paganism is of secondary importance to me.

The more zealous Christians of /pol/ are cretinous cargo-culters who have fallen for a dozen or so cheap occult traps hook line and sinker, and think they got the history of mankind figured out. No you don't understand, we were the real jews all along! papists didn't completely eradicate pagan culture because they're secret demon worshipers!

>>7946

>I think that the last institution to fall was the family, so we should make our stand there instead

Reminds me of this:

>Sister Lucia, the Fatima visionary, one day said to Cardinal Caffarra: “Father, there will come a time when Satan’s decisive battle with Christ will be over marriage and the family”.

>>7942

A lot of them fall into a Jewish created false dichotomy, at least when they are trying to defend their beliefs most of them will lean on muh synagogue of satan and the origin of 'kike' that justify their adherence to Christianity.

Mostly completely ignoring the fact that heresies within one religion have accused one another since time immemorial of being of the 'devil'. Just because one Hillel pharisee rabbi called the Shammai Pharisees the Synagogue of Satan (literally "Gathering of the Adversary"), doesn't mean everything he says is true. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend, my friends are.

An other portion of them are simply posing crusader LARPers like a lot of viking worshiping 'pagans'. There might be a big overlap with them and those that fall into the Kike Dialectic. I'll give the devout the benefit of the doubt though, there are some who sincerely adhere to Christianity and are probably just as much annoyed with posers as we are with ours.