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 No.77412

Continuation of this thread: http://archive.is/XqeXn

1) Pledge an amount of time. Preferably a number of weeks. Post it in this thread.

2) If you break your pledge, you must also confess your transgression in this thread.

3) If you keep your pledge you may reward yourself… with more time pledged!

4) For purposes of this thread, "masturbation" is defined as touching your genitals for purposes other than basic hygiene and expulsion of wastes.

For those of you who have entirely transcended physical sex but who use succubus and so on you can also make pledges here to control your sexual thoughts and try not to evoke or meet any entities to have sex with.

Remade the thread since the last one was very popular and hit the bump limit and many of you want use your generative powers for a higher purpose than mere wasted moments of hedonism.

Post any techniques for the transformation and proper use of sexual energy here also.

Personally I feel that stage one should be to completely stop with touching or physical stimulation of sexual energy and learning to take that desire and drive and focus it mentally into thoughtforms. If you are going to entertain lustful ideas at least don't be a silly mundane about it when you could be using thoughtforce to telekinetically get yourself off or something similar. Straight up fapping is for mundanes.

 No.77417

Pledging 24 hours.


 No.77419

File: 1464999368328.png (233.08 KB, 560x539, 80:77, 130221984383.png)

>fapping to porn is bad

>but fapping to your imagination is okay

What

>muh third eye

Wait. This sounds like a joke. Like someone made this up to justify fapping for no reason.


 No.77431

>>77419

i usually don't come to these kind of threads, but fapping to porn releases your energy towards something to the other side of the screen, may it be a whore, or the whole porn industry.

If you fap to your imagination, you either power the girl you're imagining, a toughtform or yourself, depending what you focus on.


 No.77437

>>77419

Honestly I feel horrible after fapping to porn and end up with tons of larvae and various metaphysical problems. End up having to banish for hours and so on.

If there is anything I need to renounce it's porn.

>>77431

This.


 No.77563

>>77412

As a neophyte, I'll pledge one week.


 No.77580

>>77563

Goodluck. In the future try to learn the different was to use the sexual energy and express it besides fapping and you will eventually look at fapping as just a complete waste. You could learn to evoke a succubus too and have sexual relations with an entity.


 No.77598

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>>77580

Every time I go 1-2 weeks without fapping, I feel very restless, like there is a vortex of energy inside me that wants to be released. I can feel the power and potential of this state, but I always go the easy way out and fap to release it.

Pledging one month. I will not forget this post. I will try to redirect energy to either a magickal ritual or a physical creative work. If all else fails I will attempt evocation.


 No.77608

>>77412

I'm two weeks I'm, I pledge forever. Will report in if fail.

Why? I've had enough. As someone who grew up with Internet I've gapped to nigh everything under the sky, I've had the sensations and everything is repetition, repetition with no gain and only loss, I lose my will and drive, I feel like a sedated animal for slaughter every time I blow a load, sure, you feel great for a few minutes and for a few hours you can procrastinate without getting shaky, but the lingering undertone of depression, like a muffled scream; "YOU'RE WASTING YOUR FUCKING LIFE AWAY!", does not go away.


 No.77609

>>77412

I pledge nothing.

Artificial constraints are meaningless to me.

Purity of purpose takes precedence over pretense.

Life is not meant to be scripted, especially by artificial constraints.

If one feels like going in a specific direction then they should. It is only when one is disconnected from their true self that they stray.

And this is perfectly acceptable to me. It is the law of the jungle, where the stupid end up as addicts or otherwise. Outing themselves as inferior.


 No.77610


 No.77615

>>77609

Stay weak.


 No.77624

>>77609

>brb my true self wants to fap to guro


 No.77625

What if we are supposed to be having sex?


 No.77642

mfw 2 hours to go on my no fap and want to fuck every beautiful woman I see all day


 No.77643

>>77598

Here is something else for you, I did this for a whole year exclusively. I uhhh… well there's two ways you can do it. You can imagine a hand stroking your dick or you can imagine sucking your dick. Never touch yourself to physically stimulate yourself. Eventually doing this a lot and charging the thoughtform with your lust you will manage to orgasm without even touching yourself physically, all just etheric.

If it's not working out too well spend lots of time brushing your hand along random objects and then imagining doing that and getting the imaginal feel of space, pressure, touch, etc. down.

>>77608

What is some ritual in one of the books requires cum?

Get off of the porn and the physically touching yourself at least.


 No.77651


 No.77652

File: 1465083908057.png (747.98 KB, 573x1547, 573:1547, 1465083721636.png)

"But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart."

- Matthew 5:28

"Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."

- James 4:7

2 weeks.

The longest I've gone is 5 days, and I thought it was harder than fasting.


 No.77653

Well to be honest the internet doesn't help one bit, this website neither.

Everytime I open this page there's some add of a girl sucking a dick somewhere.


 No.77660

>>77653

how do you not have ad block?


 No.77668

>>77660

Lol I always thought ad blocks were some kind of myth


 No.77672

>>77668

Are you even old enough to browse the internet?


 No.77673

>>77672

Too old, perhaps. I'm as old as time.


 No.77702

bump


 No.77703

>>77653

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

Click the +Add To Firefox button

it can also be added on Chrome


 No.77833

pledging a month


 No.77834

>>77653

Why is /fringe/ NSFW? Or do they just not care about SFW boards anymore?


 No.77874

>>77834

It's NSFW because gore is allowed. Porn however is supposed to be spoilered.


 No.77875

I have never seen the ads on here.


 No.77884

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The longest I have gone without lust has been 6 months.

I created the celibacy board awhile ago, but have abandoned it because like all mortals I gave up.

Within 6 months I did not see much change, though I had a bit more pep at the beginning that soon faded into the background as a normal thing. I have heard that you must go years if you want the true reward. I wasn't prepared to go that far.

Either way, I feel that aversion to your lust is a good practice for taming your passions and having dominion over your animal instincts.

What I would suggest for those people who are having difficulty in this is to not suppress your desire, nor should you indulge in it. If you must masturbate then do so. But, don't act on it just because you can. Be honest with yourself. Is suppressing your desire distracting you? This is a problem. Is indulging your desire becoming an addiction? This is also a problem.

Eventually, you find that you will lean more and more towards a natural equilibrium though you will never cut off your desire completely lest you reach enlightenment.


 No.77886

>>77643

failed, ritual was the reason.

did it thrice thinking of her, shes not interested but called or texted every time.

last time she asked "what did you send?"


 No.77889

How much does a 'willing' gets impeded by someone knowing?


 No.77891

>>77884

Just gradually raise up and transmute the sexual desire into increasingly advanced forms until it stops in any way resembling the crude masturbation that people start out with.


 No.77892

>>77889

Depends if they want to flare up emotions that impede or not.


 No.77896

Why renounce lust? Sex is a good exchange of sexual energy that makes the masculine and feminine bond more than anything else.

For my own experience: I'm on day 69 lol of nofap. For some reason, it has been insanely easy. Before I was catching myself looking at porn and finding excuses but now I barely ever have the urge. I asked a girl out after about 10 days and since then I've just been gliding into being very courageous and suave. Magickally, I feel no different if not worse, but I've also been doing very little practice.

>>77889

Have you ever argued with a mundane? The level of denial they can have is very impressive. I'd steer clear of telling anybody.


 No.77901

I fapped today and twice last night.

>>77896

It's one-way if it's to porn or something. If it's sex between you and another person though that's different.


 No.77904

>>77901

Yes, that is why I stopped using porn and even imagination. But then you aren't renouncing lust, you're renouncing self sexual pleasure.

I also forgot to add on to my original post, the whole reason I was posting: I now desire casual sex over porn, and I have improved myself (mundanely) to be capable of getting it. I mostly appreciate beauty over personality.

So what is /fringe/s opinion on this? Is sex with someone you wouldn't consider your soul-mate bad? Is desiring sex over love degenerate, or natural?


 No.77908

>>77904

I think people should have sex with succubus and other entities and in return for the loosh you give them they do various things for you.


 No.77909

>>77904

>soul-mate

I am triggered.


 No.77910

>>77904

Sex feels like nothing to me if it isn't accompanied with feelings of love.

You need both… otherwise it's just… nothing.


 No.77911

>>77909

legit


 No.77912

>>77909

I was unable to think of a term meaning "someone who you are deeply in love with that means more than the rest." I've yet to settle on a single belief on soulmates.

>>77886

What was this ritual, anyway?


 No.77934

>>77912

Sensing emotion or thought to a soul mate.

Not sure what got through but I think enough of my voice for her to know it was me and get really scared.

Soul mate, see, energy centers/aura syncing so well they boost each other.


 No.77935

>>77934

Sending*


 No.77936


 No.77940

>>77912

>What was this ritual, anyway?

If you want details I just connected to her. Remember someones eyes or a special moment you've shared, maybe her smirk that made your heart melt or when you made her laugh.

Remembering eyes or emotion is important.

Envision as person, progress to a being light, hug her tight, blend/melt chakras/auras, transfer anything you want, emotion with heart mustered through guts, thought with emotion send from a powered up third eye.

Requires a fairly high skilllevel of energywork, connection with there /here & now/, knowing when the time is right and personal mood/mindset.


 No.77969

How do I become better at fapping and sex so I can do more of it and with better results?

It's like 6-10 minutes of fapping for 10 seconds to 1 minute of pleasure.

There's got to be some way to do this better.


 No.78042

>>77908

Where did you learn this?

Can you teach?


 No.78043

>>77884

A reward?? Like what?

What is it that you expect to get from not acting on your sexual functions?


 No.78084

>>78042

>Where did you learn this?

Being alone and using my imagination.

>Can you teach?

Yeah I suppose I could.

Just remember a few key points:

1. Everything that exists has a self-preservation instinct.

2. Thoughtforms feed on your loosh and need it.

3. If you shape it just right, it will be helpful towards you, and you will of course be strong enough too that if it stops being helpful you can cut off its loosh supply.


 No.78087

>>77412

After much experimentation, I've learned a rather large source/reason as to why I continue to masturbate is simply from loneliness. I'll assume many of us here can relate, but I don't mean to imply any ill will against anyone because of this.

Issue is, I can't seem to stand socialization for long periods of time and furthermore I almost find it impossible to even intimately connect to people, exacerbating the feeling of loneliness. Even being around certain people make this feeling much worse, having the opposite intended effect.

Current goal is more prayer and meditation for now.


 No.78094

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>>77891

Whatever works for you, to be honest.

>>78043

They say that to really understand the Tao you must be celibate for a few years.

You can obtain states of bliss by pure awareness as your sexual energy is not concentrated at one point for a few fleeting seconds but is spread through your whole body all day. Like a constant, subtle orgasm.

Also, if you're a wizard. Ample energy you can use.


 No.78113

>>77412

I, hereby pledge to remain absent from masturbations for one week.

Thursday, July 8th, 2016. 13:20.


 No.78114

>>78084

I see… But does it appear to you as in a phisical form? Like a tupla or w/e?

Can they actually do stuff for you? Like give you knowledge or hints about certain things?

And can you define loosh?

Thank you


 No.78115

>>78087

But would you like to be more connected to people? And able to enjoy socializing and having intimate relationships?

I think that's the real question that you should ask yourself. And remember nothing is impossible, you're just fighting with your mind, like all of us.


 No.78116

>>78094

Sounds… tempting. I think I would be able to do this, but I think I'll save it until Im older, and wiser.

Im only 22, so I think I should be more worried about finding an actual girl to love or at least some new experiences.


 No.78122

>>78116

Yeah, sounds like a good idea

You may find out later on in your journey that celibacy isn't actually your path.


 No.78135

File: 1465434211628.jpg (16.92 KB, 543x395, 543:395, 11253986_966444660045002_2….jpg)

Ever since I was a kid I had a fetish for prostitutes. Never knew about whorehouses here where I live until about a year ago from a friend who was in the military. I thought about it too much, day and night and two months ago I went and fucked a prostitute for the first time. The experience was interesting, I felt the real problem was using the advantage of being treated as a customer to treat or make the girl do weird things for you. However, being truly honest that's just an unconscious justification for the pleasure received. The great downfall is that ever since then, I always think of fucking another girl, and you start thinking really bad of women. For example, now whenever I see a girl dressed in a similar way as the whores did, I don't think if she is/isn't a whore, I ask myself in which brothel does she work.


 No.78143

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I have a serious fucking problem, ever since I can remember I have been utterly obsessed to the point of my purpose of life to touch, watch, play with and be with very very fucking fat women, going out to eat with them, worshipping them and fucking them so hard as to watch their large fat jiggly bodies jiggle. Its like fucking crack cocaine to me, every time I get involved with one it consumes me wholey, no amount of mental transmutation can help satisfy my desire for feminine fat, it gets even worse when I'm a good looking cocky asshole with my shit together , good job, skinny,, nice car and my own fucking house at the age of 21. After they leave me all I can think about is getting an even fatter women, I lust for it I thrive off of it I fucking feeeeed off of it. I'm aware that I'm an incubus soul and I know I came to earth for one reason. To fuck fat bitches.


 No.78149

>>78143

There's a BBW escourt in Order of Fringe Wizard's Skype Group that keeps posting stuff every day about her life as an escourt lol. You should talk to her.


 No.78151

>>78143

Have you watched Monkeybone bro?


 No.78152

>>78151

Many times why?


 No.78153

>>78152

Makes sense.


 No.78154

>>78153

I'm dying to know you little shit you explain yourself. Please?


 No.78155

>>78153

I just remembered, the bingo wings is not a turn on, its the soft fat of the belly that drives me nuts


 No.78171

>>78143

Thats definitely not a natural fetish.. You'd have to go back on your memories through some kind of deep meditation or hypnotization to figure out where this is all coming from.

There's nothing wrong in preferring fat, attractive ladies, but lusting just for the fat part, is definitely something to wonder about.


 No.78242

I pledge the rest of this month.


 No.78286

>>77643

What's the importance of not touching oneself?

If we happen to cumm without touching but from seeing porn?

Also what's your opinion on creating a thoughtform with our "masculine/feminine" version? Would not be better for us to create something similar to our "higher lover" rather that just enchant the pure power of our visualization's hand?

Working in some aspects of the concept will report meaningful results.


 No.78300

I keep getting constant adrenaline bursts, can't sleep at night, and am generally stressing out for no apparent reason, and feel heavy in the Earth element. What is the most powerful meditation any of you might recommend to me in order to feel light, relaxed, rested, and comfortable (even in uncomfortable circumstances)?


 No.78306

Pledging three weeks without orgasm or edging.


 No.78339

>>77412

Pledging 7 days.


 No.78342

>>77598

Abstaining from masturbation increases your testosterone which peaks at the 7th day. Most men who've spent their lives masturbating or watching pornography every few days (or even daily) so this sudden increase in masculine energy can be difficult to handle. The more you abstain the more you learn to control and harness the power.


 No.78346

/fringe/ I need help. Same poster as:

>>77652

I failed 3 days in, but now I'm back on track. Currently on day 5, but here lies my challenge: my left testicle and lower abdomen physically hurt.

I've been feeding this thought form for too long. I'm addicted to the act of tickling. The idea of causing involuntary laughter to a woman by caressing her most sensitive spots sends a massive rush of blood to down there. I've been obsessed tickling for as long as I can remember. The beautiful sound of her laughter, her breasts swaying as she struggles to get her bare feet away from my hands… it's intoxicating.

How do I kill this thought form? How do I stop feeding it? I'm afraid I might not make my 2 week pledge again.


 No.78372

File: 1465878300117.jpg (249.16 KB, 1024x861, 1024:861, harry brooker 1.jpg)

>>78342

truth, im feeling it and going strong.

>>78346

I had an insane femdom fetish a long time ago, which I have removed through pure affirmation and mindfulness. I did tons of stuff to remove it so I don't know what did the trick.

- Instead of masturbating to the desire, write a good fiction story / drawing / whatever about it. Try to transform your fetish by associating it with something else. (Eventually I started writing fiction stories about things other than my fetish)

- Whenever you get the urge, try to analyze in perfect, scientific detail what exactly turns you on about it. Write a total analysis of your desire, its roots, its causes, etc.

- Wake up in the middle of the night, go outside, look deep into the sky, and ask with total conviction for the evil spirits mind-controlling you to stop. Read a spell or perform a ritual.

- Whenever you get the urge, pick up a voice recorder and say exactly what you're thinking out loud.

Most importantly ingrain into your consciousness an affirmation like, "I am in control of my sexual energy". Personally I was fighting a battle, since thoughts kept coming up like, "oh this fetish is just part of who I am" and I had to reject them. Affirmations, positive energy, divine love, and banishing rituals helped me in this. Eventually I saw that this is just like meditation… you purge unwanted desires just like you purge unwanted thoughts. The key to facing distractions is a mindset of masculine strictness and power over them, yet feminine love and acceptance of them. It may take a while, you may fail thousands of times, but with enough perseverance and willpower you can mold your consciousness in any way. The key is to ingrain your DESIRE into your consciousness.


 No.78373

Failed my pledge today. I'll pledge a week this time. I can't waste any more of my precious energy on pornography and masturbation. I WILL remember this post anytime I am filled with sexual urges and I WILL transmute the sexual energy into productive actions instead.


 No.78383

>>78372

Much thanks for the response anon. I eventually did fail my pledge, because the physical pain was too much to bear.

This time around, however, I will be applying the analytical techniques you mentioned. I'll also try to transmute my desires towards something productive instead. Hopefully the pains won't reappear until the 6 or 7th day this time around. Slowly but surely I'll build a tolerance.


 No.78392

>>78242

Failed. Repledging to the end of the month.


 No.78480

>>78346

You're also likely to get hemorrhoids, to much blood/energy in the lower chakras and you might not know how to clench your anus, so, it'll be like you're always walking around trying to force out a puppy nose, it causes slight prolapse of anus.

clenching a muscle about 10 cm above rectum is VERY important as it stops shit from slipping from stomach to exit intestines, if you don't you'll walk awkwardly and there will be lots of health complications.


 No.78481

>>78300

forcing all that energy to the head and crown, letting it fill and activate the higher chakras.

from there, with active higher chakas pull in cosmic, male energy


 No.78536

>>78306

Failed a while back. Learned a bit more about how it affects me from that. Pledging one month.


 No.78561

>>78536

Did you read the gnostic thread? Is more useful to transmute the semen than "repress it", in my opinion.

More or less like what >>78481 said.

There's some books the gnostic linked that could be helpful for that.

I don't really like the personality that the gnostic is talking, Samuel, not because of any redflag in him (that I noticed) but because there's some parts of the teaching that use terms I can't fully understand. But that's the way it is. The pratices and over all method, I can sense as a very good and straight one.

Since this whole thread talks about a problem (a very fundamental one in my opinion) and that's very well adressed in the other thread and the work of the guy the OP is talking about.

Shilling this because it looks good and want other anons for more feedback in this case. Will report as well.


 No.78589

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>>77412

I pledge 14 days


 No.78597

I pledge upon the full moon the renunciation of lust until the day I am bound to my husband.


 No.78601

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>>77598

>>78372

Well shiii… it was going so well, I was so confident, but I failed. Amazing how I can be grounded for the whole day, but it only takes a few hours where I'm a little bored and scatterbrained to screw it up.

Ah well, now I'll only be stronger on the next attempt. Onward to the next month, with heightened aspiration!


 No.78611

What better than a full moon to pledge 14 days of no fap? Pledgin 14 days and starting some lonemanpai energy cultivation


 No.78631

I've been trying to avoid fapping to porn but I've started again due to sexual frustration and not having non-porn to fap to. Sigh. I need more productive ways to use my sex-loosh and yet I got nothing that I can use it for. I could caste more sigils with fapping but I'll run low on energy so fast without some way for the energy to return to me.


 No.78802

File: 1466460857528-0.png (217.81 KB, 907x621, 907:621, anima_1.png)

File: 1466460857530-1.png (232.83 KB, 947x637, 947:637, anima_2.png)

File: 1466460857531-2.png (35.29 KB, 452x229, 452:229, anima_3.png)

This is worth everyone's consideration. From Jung's "Man And His Symbols."


 No.78807

>>78802

That's just what I needed to hear. Would you recommend this reading?


 No.78810

>>78807

Absolutely. I'm about halfway through and it is a treasure trove of essential knowledge.


 No.78814

>>78802

The part about women who have a "faerie-like" character often being the target of a man's projected anima is really interesting.

It reminded me of how women often claim being attracted to "mysterious" men.

So long as people can project positive qualities onto you, they will continue to like you.


 No.78815

>>78814

Eros and Magic in the Renaissance has some good discussion on this. A particular lovely quote mentioned in it:

>The illness called hereos is melancholy anguish caused by love for a woman. The cause of this affliction lies in the corruption of the faculty to evaluate, due to a figure and a face that have made a very strong impression. When a man is in love with a woman, he thinks exaggeratedly of her figure, her face, her behavior, believing her to be the most beautiful, the most worthy of respect, the most extraordinary with the best build, in body and soul, that there can be. This is why he desires her passionately, forgetting all sense of proportion and common sense, and thinks that, if he could satisfy his desire, he would be happy. To so great an extent is his judgment distorted that he constantly thinks of the woman's figure and abandons all his activities so that, if someone speaks to him, he hardly hears him. And since this entails continuous contemplation, it can be defined as melancholy anguish. It is called hereos because noblemen and lords of the manor, because of plenty of pleasures and delights, often were overcome by this affliction.


 No.78851

Going to pledge 1 week. Will check this post daily.

Also going to write down some reasons why I'm doing this and go over that daily as well, multiple times a day.

I'm getting aware of my own personality changes when I'm drained from j/o. Much more generally aggressive, irritable, careless, and instigate arguments. The mellow stability from abstaining is much preferable. Though, the difficulty is the temptation from external forces; when you announce it, that's when it seems that the most worthy times to go at it occur.


 No.78853

Also pledging 1 week.


 No.78860

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

ex-celibate fag here.

Gentlemen, prepare your penises for this video.

I just re-watched it and my god is it eloquent and beautiful. Now that I am at a much higher level than I was a few years ago perhaps I can pledge… let's say as long as I can handle. But, I need to know a good book on Pranayama if anyone has it.


 No.78867

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Pledging 1 week, I will remember to do the newfig exercises in astral dynamics instead of fapping. I wonder how long I should exercise my energy body before trying to raise kundalini.

I find it fitting that one of the most basic simpleton requirements of the low dirt-eating scrub levels in the A:.A:. is total control over the astral plane. I feel like energy work and AP is a good way to officially start my path of ascension, since all this other deeply esoteric brain fuck wizardry seems entirely dependent on well developed astral senses. I plan eventually to evoke Orobas and doubt I'll get any results without being astrally competent enough to detect his presence. Demonic tutoring sounds way more credible to me than trying to find a human teacher just to end up in the care of some weed lmao faggit western guru LARPer. In fact, I'd rather be that guy than study under him. Send the rich trust-fund neophytes my way, goyim.


 No.78869

Pledging one week.


 No.78873

File: 1466733679026.png (73.03 KB, 480x341, 480:341, 1466427962997.png)

Alright, I'm sick of this.

Sick of being a degenerate weakling. So it's about time I took control of my senses and became a complete human being! I'm pledging two weeks of NO PR0N.

If I get desperate, I'll do taoist self-cultivation to try and get my sensitivity back. Namefagging specifically for this thread so if I fail, everybody can point and laugh at me…

WHICH I EXPECT YOU TO DO FRINGE.


 No.78896

>>78601

just orgasmed for the first time through pure energy channeling, no physical touching. I guess I am proud of the achievement, but the orgasm still felt draining. Ill try not to orgasm once more, three weeks here we go, like its the first time.


 No.78914

I was without masturbation for 5 days, but just failed again. I just keep wasting my loosh on disgusting pr0n, and I feel all my motivation and creativity leave me. This must end.

Pledging one week minimum.


 No.78941

>>78896

How do you channel it like you are talking about?


 No.78945

>>78941

Pretty much this:

>>77643

Also see New Energy Ways for how to stimulate your energy body.

Like some anon said, keep transmuting your lust into higher and higher forms, until it is completely sublimated.


 No.78957

>>78873

I'll join you on that, lad. No porn 2 weeks let's go.


 No.78966

File: 1466906757299.jpg (64.5 KB, 374x328, 187:164, 1466579696680.jpg)

>>78873

>>78957

Ahah… Yeah… About that…

Turns out my ex is still really into me. One thing lead to another and next thing I know we're having a very sexy Skype call.

I lost. I'm re pledging but the pointing and laughing can start now. I guess while it's not exactly porn I still got my balls drained by a succubus. God fucking damn it


 No.78967

>>78966

We all fall short of God's light anon.

But Jesus didn't come down to Earth for you to just dick around. The point is to get on his level.

Pledge again when you are ready!


 No.78985

Guys, if you don't mind my asking, what is it that you all think you're accomplishing by torturing yourselves like this? I'm sure you may've read one thing or another from various sources about certain metaphysical entities that feed on negative energies and so on and so forth, but if you are still having persistent interactions with such entities in an unpleasant fashion in spite of your Herculean (or Sisyphean) efforts, isn't that proof enough that it's not exactly working as advertised?

Maybe some people can lead a celibate lifestyle. For the majority of us however, it seems quite apparent to me that we're just not wired that way; it's in our nature to be sexually giving. We're not so unlike the ocean really, and if you've read the Kybalion, then you SHOULD know about the principle of rhythm: tide goes in, tide goes out, but in undertaking such efforts, you're essentially attempting to create a seawall out of mud to stop the incoming tides. Why would you do this though? Are you any happier for having worked yourselves to the bone over it? Does it even make any sense in the end?

Now, to speak on the idea of "perversity", well, we then venture forth into very subjective territories. What may be considered full of purity, goodness, and love to one may, at that same moment, be seen as something unholy and profane to another, the difference being merely a matter of perspective, which is of course dependent on whether or not one chooses to attempt to perceive things as OBJECTIVELY as possible. If you truly are an occultist, then, by DIRECT EXPERIENCE, you should know firsthand that there are entities, living beings that embody these very ideas of sexual, might I say, "interest". Would you walk up to any one of them in the street and say, "God does not love you! You are profane, and should not exist!" Could there be a more horrible thing to say to someone? I can scarce imagine it, but by forcing yourselves along this path of absolute sexual control, THAT IS THE VERY THOUGHT YOU DEMONSTRATE THROUGH ACTION.

Now, if such a thought is what you earnestly feel in your heart of hearts, then so be it, there's nothing absolutely wrong with doing such a thing. However, for those that may have suffered with much confusion over this subject for God knows how long, I hope that I may've been able to bring some clarity to the subject. Just my two cents.


 No.78986

File: 1466950322044.jpg (128.61 KB, 450x567, 50:63, joy of hermes.jpg)

>>78985

I hope no one finds this torture, but yet an exciting challenge to take hold of their serpent which has control over their life.

The hermetic principle of rhythm is a solid one. It is why I said this post

>>77884

The idea here is that you eventually get to the point of using White Tantra to channel the sexual energy to higher awareness.

If you have a girl practice chasity, if you are single do pranayama.

I also agree with your assessement on perversity. I feel all paths are valid, and left-hand path is always there for you. But, that path is for very very few people, mostly those who are going towards the negative densities.

This thread though, is just a test of willpower. No one here has pledged celibacy, but the idea is to take command of your serpent energy! What a wonderful prospect it would be to be among the masters of old who walked on water symbolizing their mastery over the waters of sex.


 No.78988

>>78986

Perhaps I've misapprehended the general gist of this type of discussion. It's just that since I myself struggled with it a great deal and suffered consequently, that I might tend to see that more in others too. I'm glad to hear that you're relishing in the challenge, because oh man, is it tough.


 No.78989

>>78985

This is not torture. If you're ever practiced celibacy, and then masturbated, it's not nearly as great as you think it is. You lose the clarity you had before.

It is not our nature to be celibate, but we do it anyway. We do many things that are not our nature, and that help us. If we fed into our natural pleasures, we would devolve into hedonists. I can safely say that I am happier having gone through the mental struggle of celibacy. My willpower is stronger after holding back one of my strongest natural desires.

Your third paragraph makes no sense to me. You do realize that there are beings that live off every feeling? Beings that live off fantasies of murder, beings that survive through suicidal thoughts, etc. Why would I give energy to these beings simply because they exist?


 No.78994

>>78989

>beings that live off of thoughts of murder and suicide

Indeed these things exist, and by virtue of their existing they cannot be offensive to the All, but they relate to humanity the same way a plague does. Nature is nature, but man is nature pregnant with the divine. Insofar as something's relationship to mankind aids his divinity, it is good; insofar as it inhibits man's divinity (by killing a life before that life can have a chance to attain illumination) it should be viewed by men as bad. Good and bad are attitudes that man had towards things, but those attitudes are necessary in striving for illumination.


 No.79004

In other news, I managed to waste my loosh last night by watching porn without actually touching my dick or jizzing. I just sat there with an erecting and humping the inside of my underwear. Probably counts as a fail, because I let my dick control my action and used friction and treated it like a loophole. Also, I'm pretty sure I flooded myself with testosterone for a while being erect and that likely has the same harmful effects on my androgen receptors as it always has. The only thing I didn't do was hands on fap and ejaculate. Better, but not good enough.

On a side note however, I find that if I've got lustful thoughts that won't go away, it helps to browse pictures of naked women because I quickly become reminded of how non-fulfilling the sight is when you just look at it for aesthetic appreciation. All I can think of is how there's folds in places that probably don't smell very nice, and channel this thought against my lust, reminding myself that there's nothing especially desirable about it. This only works for real non-shooped 3dpd, as perfections and allure are accentuated on anime tiddies. Making 3dpd the only way to fight those images, too, by remembering that until Trump is in office, anime still isn't real.


 No.79006

File: 1466965460097.jpg (Spoiler Image, 356.12 KB, 1000x750, 4:3, Whip it out and think of m….jpg)

Fap. It doesn't really matter. I will just blow my load to something meaningless in a week or two anyway after going days feeling that awful, awful withdrawl. NoFap is just not worth it. What meaningful could possibly manifest in between a few days of not touching my dick? Besides I feel great edging for a few hours, its fun. Its not just about cumming, the best part is edging for hours to different stuff to finally blow my load on my secret little fetish. Today I feel for busting while thinking of having this female carry my child.


 No.79007

File: 1466965824851.jpg (353.46 KB, 1200x642, 200:107, just do it.jpg)

I'm going to fap. I'm going to fap until i realize just how void of meaning it is and nothing can stop me, no vow of devotion uttered without will to go through will change that.

I know its just a timer set to clock how long my cock goes untouched, there is no actual effort to try not to fap.

I want to fap.


 No.79008

File: 1466966096364.jpg (Spoiler Image, 118.76 KB, 682x1024, 341:512, kristzi_5.jpg)

I don't have anything else to do anyway.

I'll just fap.

Its easier to spend time on.

I'm with her when I'm fapping. If only for a moment, I feel a sliver of what we could have had. Its better than nothing. I'll satisfy with that.


 No.79011

File: 1466966836215.jpg (Spoiler Image, 264.46 KB, 672x1000, 84:125, 1342641898017.jpg)

I love the mindfog I get after fapping, its lets me relax… It lets my mind drift. I can sit still and do nothing for hours. Maybe paint a pineapple in blacklight colors or lie in the grass or just chill with something repetitive and easy, lets fix my Gold Nova 3 rank in CS:GO, then fap to something new on R34, it was a while… Then maybe some coffee or tea and another CS:GO game.

When I fap, I can be anyone I want. I be someone that doesn't need to share emotion, I can fap her hard, I can fap her slow, fap her from behind, in her parents bedroom or in public, I can be anyone and everyone at any time who will ever have a chance with her. I am not me

This way I don't have to deal with emotions.

Or I could muster all the emotions I would have liked to share with her, fap her lovingly, fap her tender.

In that moment of blowing my load, I am with her. When I fap, I'm not lonely.

When I'm fapping, its me and my camera shes making a face for.


 No.79013

File: 1466967079970.png (Spoiler Image, 290.65 KB, 600x800, 3:4, 1459191567474.png)

When I fap, I am in control for once in my life

Anything and everything can happen, but I rule, when I fap.


 No.79014

I fapped yesterday for like the first time in maybe 10 days and came in like 30 seconds and felt nothing. Clearly you have to meditate upon the subject of your lust intensely for a good 15-20 minutes or more before orgasming in order to build up enough loosh to really feel anything.


 No.79016

File: 1466967627176.jpg (Spoiler Image, 212.25 KB, 800x1200, 2:3, 1368785523856.jpg)

Why resist some childish, stupid credo to remain pure? I feel better on weekdays while fapping.

As a matter of fact, I can't go without the haze.

I'll realize how stupid and droll my coworkers and life are Might as well why not just kill myself? Good idea, great idea.

I fap because in the moment I am everything she wants, because I have dictated what she wants and it works because She's not real.

I fap because in the moment nothing matters and I can forget all the fucked up shit I've been through, seen and read.

I fap because nothing matters. [SPOILER] NOTHING MATTERS [/SPOILER]


 No.79017

File: 1466967815408.jpg (Spoiler Image, 2.08 MB, 3744x5616, 2:3, 1463789620175.jpg)

And I am going to keep fapping until I realize just how empty and cold she is because in the moment she is warmth, and nothing will change that.


 No.79021

File: 1466969882041.jpg (146.12 KB, 878x599, 878:599, 1465604956653.jpg)

>>79006

>>79007

>>79008

>>79011

>>79013

>>79016

>>79017

Just do cocaine or H it feels better than fapping and all the same reasons apply.

downsaged :^)


 No.79022

>>79021

H 4 Elium? my man

also

>not getting it


 No.79024

File: 1466972749175.jpg (108.11 KB, 969x860, 969:860, MaterialWorld.jpg)

>>78989

I'd say celibacy isn't normal, but it is our true nature.

I connect strongly with the story that man existed in a state of purity not knowing good or evil until we discovered the orgasm. Our true nature was blissful, we knew only of virtue then we fell into the 7 sins, lust being the most challenging to overcome.

All sins are normal, because we've had them for over 20,000 years, I don't think they are natural though. I don't think materiality is natural either.

>>79011

>>79013

Yeah, that's left-hand path. Nothing wrong with that. Your words however, sound more akin to how the public views masturbation as opposed to how the esoteric teachings views it.

I see you say you have to fap in order to feel good, but then you say when you fap you feel you are in control. That sounds about right to me.


 No.79026

>>79024

This. Lust + physical arousement. Dealing with lust should be easy for any low rank magikian, so do I think.

The physical part is impossiable to turn around. The sexual energy is fundamental to us. Not having it is a problem for any human.

To >>78985 would suggest the >>78860 video, it's informative.

> You have no choise but to use sexual energy.

The question being what you use it for?

Transmutation of semen is important and very worth. The gnostics have a good method for it. They use the pranayama. The Muh-Shah one is very effective in my experience and very close to the tummo.

I got a really good boost of energy using that and very little lustful episodes.

I'm talking about single people's pratice. The sexual energy between a couple is much more stronger tho.

But is essential to master this first before getting with someone. I wonder if you could mix the thought form part with this.

Also for the celibate >>78860 you don't need a book. Try using the gnostics pranayama. The gnostic guy from the other thread have a good source of info for that.

Shilling again for free :^)


 No.79027

>>79024

Is our true nature not to share your sexual energy with someone feminine? I thought that sexual energy was good to use with someone you love, but besides that it should not be wasted.

I used to partake in taoist ways to keep energy such as ankhing but I find that I'm more comfortable just being celibate until I am with a feminine woman.


 No.79030

>>79027

Usually, when we say we love someone it is just a statement about wanting to use them as an object of our desire.

But yeah, you are right you can share your sexual energy with them but as a practice of white tantra where you learn what the higher love means, it isn't desire and it isn't lust.

Twin flames are rare. Everyone thinks they know their twin flame but they might just be with a soulmate, which is just someone you have a soul connection with.

Being with a twin flame is supposed to be a challenge, and a way to learn and grow.


 No.79031

>>79030

>white tantra

>tantra mentioned in relation to sex

You don't know a single thing about Tantra.

>>78336

>>78371


 No.79032

>>79031

was mentioned in relation to sexual energy, not sex.


 No.79035

>>79024

>also not getting it


 No.79056

>>79032

And sexual energy and sex are unrelated, I see. Let me rephrase my response: Tantra has nothing to do with "sexual energies".

This is the most basic, surface-level, new age misconception about this system. It basically shows to anyone who actually studied Tantra even a little bit that you don't know a single thing about this system.

In my previous response I linked two posts which explain this in greater detail.


 No.79062

>>79056

Prana is the same thing as sexual energy.

I'm not using the common definition of "white tantra". It has nothing to do with sex or orgasm, I agree with you.

When you look up "White Tantra" on youtube, sadly you will get people who just tell you how to have sex. Not sure how this came about.


 No.79080

File: 1467057623645.jpg (76.94 KB, 500x725, 20:29, oily abs.jpg)

>>78967

If Jesus is so pure, then why is he tempting me with those fantastic abs?

CHEKMATE, CHRISTFAGS


 No.79085

>>79080

>letting primal urges spoil your devotion of the perfect

fault lies in you, degenerate


 No.79293

File: 1467402713774.png (140.91 KB, 439x290, 439:290, 1465340187687-2.png)

Turns out I'm a complete degenerate who loves doing what the jews say so I have failed my 1 week pledge from >>78867

I am pledging another week, this will be the third time I've pledged a week but I will strive to make it the first time I've actually completed it.

In the years past (when I was but a wee little christcuck) I found that reciting a quote about internal transformation from the jews :^) proved useful in staving off lustful thoughtforms, I am curious if anyone has good quotes or mantras (pls no Sanskrit) that are good for reminding yourself to keep your animal/lower nature conquered?


 No.79357

File: 1467503560250.jpg (10.73 KB, 251x235, 251:235, 1303583819735s.jpg)

Week in here. I pledged as long as I could.

It's going really easy for me. No desire at all. I had one moment where I wanted to take a peak at some videos, so I flipped a coin to see if ti was a good idea. The coin never lies, and it came up as tails. I won't need the coin again.

I'll report in every now and then. I feel great.


 No.79366

For some reason my streak has become really easy. Before I was breaking my streak every week or two, with my max being 28 days. But now I am on my 95th day and have not had one close call.

My only desire to masturbate lies in me actually missing porn. I don't miss the feeling of masturbation, but the "aesthetic" of porn makes me feel nostalgic. I miss the long nights of easy pleasure, the way the sites look, and the iconic camera work and feel of pornography. The only way I can describe what I feel is that I miss the aesthetic of it.

Is this a normal feeling? Have I just never felt the normal desire to see sex before because I've been addicted to porn for my entire life? This is very odd to me.

>>78143

I had this fetish early in my childhood for some reason, but it has since left. Perhaps you desire a motherly comfort, and see this fat as a physical comforting mechanism or a "return to the womb" so to say.


 No.79369

>>77412

Renouncing porn/hentai forever. I'll slowly stop after a while.


 No.79370

>>79357

>I'll slowly stop after a while

Fapping, that is.


 No.79379

>>77412

Fuck it. Cold turkey bois… 16 weeks lets go


 No.79386

I'm a straight male and I'm starting to develop somewhat lusty feelings for a friend…who is also male.

Ive never felt this way towards another boy before, what can i do about this?


 No.79396

>>79386

Apply reason. Check every passion that comes upon you by questioning it's actual purpose and evaluate the answers they give. For the sex drive, the only reason that physically exists is to procreate. If we didn't have a need to procreate as an animal species, there would be no sex drive. Therefore all sexual passions must answer to this reason. If not, berate it in yourself until you are firmly confident that you won't act on it or entertain it anymore. Remember, you are not your thoughts, thoughts are alien things which dwell in your mental space and seek actualization in your flesh. Push out the ones that are cancerous, pure passion which does not conform to reason and meaningful purpose. By this method I have begun staving off fap thoughts, since fapping doesn't serve procreation nor help me prepare for being any woman's husband. Use the same argument against homosexual thoughts, and let no thought actualize itself in your flesh unless it serves reason's purposes.


 No.79416

>>77412

I pledge four weeks, and hopefully will hold to it beyond that.


 No.79421

until otherwise specified or for medicinal reasons

4 days so far.


 No.79431

Pledging 4 weeks. 2 weeks until my Aya experience, then two weeks afterward. Aspiring to turn it into a chaste year.


 No.79477

File: 1467753220060.webm (7.2 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Lust.webm)

Reminder from ol' Buddha Shakyamuni talking to a monk who broke his vow of celibacy

"'Worthless man, it would be better that your penis be stuck into the mouth of a poisonous snake than into a woman's vagina. It would be better that your penis be stuck into the mouth of a black viper than into a woman's vagina. It would be better that your penis be stuck into a pit of burning embers, blazing and glowing, than into a woman's vagina. Why is that? For that reason you would undergo death or death-like suffering, but you would not on that account, at the break-up of the body, after death, fall into deprivation, the bad destination, the abyss, hell…"

This was one of the rare times that Buddha disparaged someone as "Worthless" by the way. He teaches right speech in which you never harm anyone with your words but you can say something honest at the right time if need be.


 No.79482

File: 1467762397915.gif (180.34 KB, 135x111, 45:37, 1440622297979.gif)

I've been trying for a month but keep failing.

I will no longer look at things that will only fuel the fire.

I need to see where this takes me.

Pledging 90 days. Starting right now.

Exnoon.


 No.79491

>>79481

don't you mean the buddha?


 No.79493

Pledging 48 hours. Will set timer to check back in.


 No.79498

I am now pledging two weeks of abstaining to masturbations.


 No.80143

I pledge until next month,

TIMESTAMP: July 17


 No.80146

I know I'm taking a huge step, but living this life is making it impossible to make progress. I'm starting to feel disgust for myself. So I'm just doing it the extreme way.

I Will Not:

1. Smoke anything. Quitting both cigs and joints.

2. Spill my Seed via Masturbation.

3. Consume GMO's and Sugar.

I will not pledge an amount of time, because It needs as long as I can.


 No.80158

Pledging 48 hours.


 No.80160

>>80158

weak. just fap now. your hand is twitching for it, hovering above your groin.


 No.80162

>>80160

No it's not. Already fapped 3 times today m8.


 No.80163

File: 1468797256144.jpg (63.62 KB, 550x800, 11:16, 1452238358315.jpg)

>>80162

Outstanding!


 No.80188

>>80162

I've been fapping 3 times a day every day for quite awhile now and not wanting to stop as I'm doing it for a magick operation to patch over some problems but feeling very unstable doing it.


 No.80195

Did a good two weeks but broke it today. Here's a tip: Do some shit. When I was pretty busy and tired for two weeks it was extremely easy to resist. It was only today with the weekend and lots of free time that I found myself giving in. I really must work on my willpower.


 No.80577

I pledge to not masturbate, edge, or be swayed by lust for the rest of my life. Should I break this wow, I'll rip my own penis off


 No.80581

File: 1469301512656.jpg (1.21 MB, 3840x2160, 16:9, watching you.jpg)


 No.80598

File: 1469339601508.jpg (79.68 KB, 230x507, 230:507, rightcol_banner_art.jpg)

Taofag here. I pledged as long as I could.

I'm a month in, I feel empowered as fuck.

I have no desire at all. This is kinda surreal. I don't think I'll have the crutch of masturbation again.

Also, I'm no longer aroused in public by the female form. I will glance at the ass from time to time as I do, but it will not provoke a response in me at all. I no longer have to think about this shit day to day to day, I can focus on my alchemy instead.

If a humble practitioner like me can do this, I think all can easily do this as well.


 No.80599

File: 1469340324070.jpg (30.66 KB, 382x500, 191:250, 62.jpg)

>>80598 <= Me

Can I be sincere for a moment?

I love you bros, you guys always give me cool fringe knowledge and shit. I'm glad you guys post cool stuff all the time and made this thread and others. I intend for everyone here to find the glorious reward of the philosopher's stone so that we may have the transformation of man's vile darkness into that of greater and greater light.

If you ever, ever get the feeling of being lost. Remember that the very fact that you contributed to this forum is one in the same as being a part of the alchemical Great Work.


 No.80604

File: 1469347645224.jpg (36.95 KB, 720x614, 360:307, 12049733_561571690666777_3….jpg)

Why is there zero reference to atkinson's personal power book and the parts about how to transmute sexual thoughts and energy? Without practicing these, all you are doing is repressing your sexual thoughts which is manifesting in your subconscious into something fucked up, which will in turn remanifest into the conscious mind into some weird behavioral traits.

I went 6 months on nofap and while it was a great empowering and enlightening experience overall, I was not transmuting the energy which eventually lead to a ridiculously strong urge which I felt literally powerless over. I'm glad I did it instead of resisting because not finding some form of proportional release (whether fapping or mental transmutation) would have created something fucked up subconsciously.

I'm not saying you have to become some kind of expert brahmachari or whatever before you begin nofap, but learn some transmutation techniques to properly allocate these urges into it's right places. Atkinson's personal power has all the info on this. Read that before doing nofap… just my 2 cents


 No.80605

A recent weakening in self has slowly allowed carnal urges to gain a foothold, but now I've had quite enough.

It's a subconscious reaction, one I had managed to lock out for a long time, but now that it's here I don't know how to drive it back out.

Arousal and sexual desires exist for the body, but they are a flaw to the mind, and a criminally overrated one at that.

How do I completely chase this devil out of me?


 No.80609

>>80599

Very true, thank you. As is in heaven it shall be on Earth.

Not left nor right but the middle path, unite the divided.

Service to self through service to others, unity.

Related post, take from it whatever you wish.

http://fringechan.org/fringe/res/3176.html#4768


 No.80610

>>80605

You're to extreme.


 No.80614

For more than a year i´ve fapped once in two weeks. Only because my balls become quite itchy.

But then the moment of orgasm i use to imprint a deep thoughtform.

I´m shapeshifting and so far things are flowing smoothly. Although this is very slow progress.


 No.80615

>>79056

The sex act is the ultimate point of Tantra, though not to be lost in passion and just be a lustful animal. The lingam belongs in the yoni. That is its home.


 No.80616

Just relapsed. Pledging a month.


 No.80617

>>80604

Good recommendation, I am reading it now.


 No.80625

pledge two weeks


 No.80629

File: 1469423179003.jpg (172.86 KB, 570x798, 5:7, 1465010433820.jpg)

Pledging 48 days. Wish all of you luck.


 No.80631

File: 1469432964071.jpg (333.44 KB, 960x1280, 3:4, 1441591702800.jpg)

>>79482

Relapsed.

Going to go ahead and renew my 90 day pledge… started 3 days ago.


 No.80636

I will pledge one alchemical month for now. Forty days. If I can do that I'll make it three.

I hope to make some things happen in that time so I'll need that expansive energy.


 No.80640

>>80636

Also pledging 40 days, in solidarity with fellow christanon.

lots of physical, mental, and astral cleaning to be done.

first 10 days to adjust and transition slowly into a different lifestyle, then 30 days of increasing discipline.

Discipline. That's what this is all for. My first true goal, something I truly want, that I know I need, not because anyone else tells me, but because I KNOW.


 No.80657

Last time I was nofap over a year ago it lasted over two months with absolutely no arousal after a certain point and i wouldve been good for life if it weren't for my ex.

Pledging one week, hopefully will lose all sex drive again.


 No.80658

>>80657

Adding on to this for everyone here.

The first time you masturbate after nofap (at least for me), the tip of your dick will burn for a while


 No.80690

all woman are whores

i pledge for 7 days of no fap, starting now


 No.80695

>>80690

>all woman are whores

I wouldn't go that far. The women in porn siphoning your loosh are though. By definition.

>>80640

>Also pledging 40 days, in solidarity with fellow christanon

This honestly gives me even more motivation to see this through. Good luck, brother.


 No.80718

Hadn't fapped for 2 weeks and fapped 3 times in a row yesterday

Ain't promising shit but don't think I'll pickup fapping again anyway


 No.80721

>>80690

>all woman are whores

no.


 No.80722

pledging two weeks, Already on day 2 or three, should be easy.


 No.80723

Plwdging 2 weeks


 No.80779

After about a week an a half of not masturbation the sorrow hit me. It came in hard yesterday, and only got worse today. That's when I remembered the reason why I masturbate, to numb the pains of the world for just a few minutes.

To just not be present.

I must find another way to escape.

Pledging five days.


 No.80810

I fucked up pretty bad yesterday..

Fasting for 14 hours or more and pledging 31 days.


 No.80811

I think I might be cheating by drinking heavily throughout the first week as in my experience it's always the most difficult part to get through and this makes it a lot easier. I'm generally distracted from being aroused and would be difficult to fap when everything is so numb anyway. Drinking like this is definitely not a healthy thing to do longterm though.

I'm actually planning on ditching this particular vice as well in the near future. I would like to at the very least stop drinking outside social situations anyway.

Clean sober no fap life any day now.


 No.80884

File: 1469947758442.pdf (7.35 MB, 1922personalpower.pdf)

>>80604

Thanks. It was a little tough today but I only had to be mindful and do the technique again for my lust to vanish. Six days now. The other five days were pretty easy because I was very busy with mundane activities plus regular application of the technique.

Here's the transmutation technique for anyone interested. It's in the last chapter of the book.


 No.80889

I messed up. Starting over. I should probably avoid certain imageboards for the foreseeable future.

The first week is always the most difficult part and I know I can go on almost indefinitely once I get past it. I'm going to be really busy this week so it'll be easier this time around. Idle hands and all that.


 No.80891

>>80889

>the smug anime girls

>all of them?


 No.81104

File: 1470160853289.jpg (46.94 KB, 500x599, 500:599, 45.jpg)

Taobro here.

So, I recently came out of alignment for a few days because of one chat room I entered and was made to look like a "bullshit mystic". I kept dwelling on the experience and it lowered my energy to the point that lust easily got a hold of me.

It's not like it was against my will, but I couldn't read or do creative anything without me being distracted so I made the conscious choice of masturbating without ejaculation.

Now I feel aligned again, and I do not have the urge to do it again. But, I have to make sure this time I don't let the "mundanes", as this board says, get to me.

So yes, pledging once again, as long as possible.

I end at exactly 1 month and 1 week. It is a new record for me if we don't count the time I was drugged up and did 6 months.


 No.81105

Started last night.

Have been close to breaking it a few times.

Just now went on /b/ just to fuck with myself.

Tonight will be rough.

I pledge one week from yesterday to begin with.

But hopefully I'll extend that.


 No.81129

>>81104

Don't get yourself down, anon. You did spectacular.

Next time when in discussion in chat rooms, remember a golden rule: "Silence is might."

With that being said, pledging 24 hours. Currently in the depths of extreme lust.


 No.81151

So I've been trying to transmute the emotion of lust and seeding intent into my lower self to not get an errection while perceiving the female body. It kind of works as it afterwards takes longer to get an errection while watching one of those rotating lingerie model webms. I've noticed however that the larvae is trying to counter my efforts as it has managed to seed the intent of using more lewd webms (i.e fully nude, instead of lingerie), but so far I've been able to resist.

One of my intentions was "I don't want to procreate and I can't fuck a video of a woman, don't get a boner" and now, after I ignored the larvae's intent of using more lewd webms, it has seeded the intent of not using a video and having a real woman trying to seduce me instead. I'm pretty sure I can resist that without much effort heh but I thought it was interesting how it tried to counter that specific intention.

As a closing note, it still keeps countering me and will probably keep doing so until I give in and become its slave (and fap) or become the master of my mind, making its efforts useless. Any thoughts on this?


 No.81154

Do you guys really have trouble trying not to jack off? Normally I could renounce touching myself forever except for one little problem…

Whenever I stop I end up with some silly wet dream and wake up with a mess.

There's almost no transmutation techniques posted in this thread, would anything work to make my dreamself not make me jizz?


 No.81155

>think that nofap is bullshit

>read some atkinson

>use his methods and nofap for a week

>feel bursting with energy and more alive than I've ever felt before

>give in to fapping

>as I cum I feel all of the loosh rush out through my pelvis and I turn into a husk

SHIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET


 No.81160

>>81155

This is REAL occultism.


 No.81189

>third day

>relieved because I no longer feel obliged to rub one out before going to sleep

Might be some wisdom to this, at least for those of us caught in a vortex of degeneracy.


 No.81198

I just fapped today unexpectedly and now only an hour or two later I feel incredibly sad and depressed.

I think the lack of a partner to do stuff with is what fucks it all up.

*sigh* I don't know what I want to do


 No.81203

>>81154

Your dreams are "wicked" is more a moral corruption in your sub counscience. You may have good will power but your thoughs have to be pure.

My opinion, readswani sivananda monography on celibacy, it deals alot about the modern culture and the reason most people cant even think about it. He has a chapter about wet dreams, he had not seen the corruption of nowadays tho. Its almost impossiable not to be corrupted. Just going outside anywhere you see sex, sex and sex, I now have to a trick with woman, when I sense some disere I just see her like a piece of flesh until it disgust me.

Its neither easy nor nice but effective none the less. Since i dont mistake the body for the person, I dont lose my humanity

I think this point here, lust or the freedom from lust, its the most important aspect in highy to be developed and is the most difficult, a basic mecanism that should be easy for strong willed people, it turns into a mess with all this sex. Maybe easy its not correct, but it seems impossiable some times. Worse, do you know someone opened enough to even hear about this? The science (not bro science) is on your side, the empirical evidence from everyone that add an orgasm. Why do we treat sex so ligthly? I understand that mundanes dont get it, but why does the people in "this" movement forget about it? Why does everyone talks about awakening the kundaliny and just bipass the very first chapter about sexual energy, or just blindly tell lies about "tantra sex" to help the process?


 No.81213

>>81198

>*sigh*

Consider suicide promptly you mongrel.


 No.81309

I've realized that eating food for taste is essentially equivalent to masturbating to pornography.


 No.81311

>>81309

Youre very much right but if this hinders you from enjoying and appreciating food, or even makes you loathe it, you're doing it wrong.


 No.81337

File: 1470416835689.gif (1.74 MB, 380x355, 76:71, qt.gif)

Day five:

I really really really want to fap.


 No.81343

>>81337

>Turkish blowjob


 No.81367

>>81337

>I really really really want to fap.

Do you even transmute brah?

If you feel the need to masturbate there is no point in not masturbating.


 No.81379

>>81367

Man don't say that, I feel better than ever when I don't think about it.

I've become seriously addicted to the act, not even the feeling.

I can't into transmutation yet.


 No.81380

I messed up on my first attempt but now I'm just about over the first week hurdle and my lust is pretty much under control.

My energy is being channelled into far more productive activities. I'm learning and creating things.

I don't think I'll have much of a problem reaching 40 days at this rate. All goes very well.


 No.81400

>>81379

>I can't into transmutation yet.

Just read The Kybalion and the last chapter of Personal Power my lad.


 No.81402

>>81400

Already reading the Kybalion, will read Personal Power too, thank you for the advice!


 No.81405

File: 1470528666556.png (805.79 KB, 1300x417, 1300:417, 8dd.png)

>>81402

>Kybalion

>Personal Power


 No.81406

>>81405

Thank you anon.


 No.81407

>>81405

You know we can see your IP and tell you're protagonist right?

>l

>e

>l


 No.81412

Just me and my 💕daddy💕, hanging out I got pretty hungry🍆 so I started to pout 😞 He asked if I was down ⬇for something yummy 😍🍆 and I asked what and he said he'd give me his 💦cummies!💦 Yeah! Yeah!💕💦 I drink them!💦 I slurp them!💦 I swallow them whole💦 😍 It makes 💘daddy💘 😊happy😊 so it's my only goal… 💕💦😫Harder daddy! Harder daddy! 😫💦💕 1 cummy💦, 2 cummy💦💦, 3 cummy💦💦💦, 4💦💦💦💦 I'm 💘daddy's💘 👑princess 👑but I'm also a whore! 💟 He makes me feel squishy💗!He makes me feel good💜! 💘💘💘He makes me feel everything a little should!~ 💘💘💘 👑💦💘Wa-What!💘💦👑


 No.81413

>>81412

>triggered.png


 No.81414

Read hatha yoga pradipika p39-43 if you are considering abstaining masturbation.


 No.81450

Pledging one week.


 No.81455

>>81414

can you link the pdf?


 No.81457

File: 1470612193075.pdf (311.77 KB, -hatha yoga pradipika.pdf)

>>81455

There is some good information in the book if you read carefully.


 No.81465

Pledging 2 weeks.


 No.81510

>>81151

Can you explain a little what you are talking about? I can't seem to pick up on your implications, but in response to what is clearly said, why are you watching potentially sexual webms in the first place? Testing yourself is probably is not a good idea if you are just truly trying to abstain. As far your larvae thing, I'm assuming you mean thought-forms/thought-patterns in your subconscious. Instead of fighting with yourself as a slave to be a master or whatever why not try to cooperate and convince yourself? Just give yourself logic and find false logic within yourself to neutralize

>>81203

You sure this isn't a natural physical response? My dreams aren't usually sexual in nature, it's pretty random. My dream consciousness is often not that aware and the dreams sometimes aren't coherent, but that's a topic not for this thread.

When I abstain for over a week or so I can just feel this sort of pressure or energy in my crotch area as an indicator that I will have a wet dream. Personally I think males have to have some release for a healthy system which is why the body resorts to nocturnal emissions.

Please do tell me how I'm wrong it you think so.


 No.81511

>>81510

You should be transmuting the sexual energy into spiritual energy.


 No.81514

>>81203

But yea I've done a similar trick. Considering them as a piece of flesh is kind of demeaning (and could potentially backfire depending on how open one's mind is and thus potential for degenerate thoughts).

A better and more accurate way to look at women IRL is to realize them as just humans. Since you as a guy look at other guys as just dudes, think of women as dudes. It's pretty brilliant and quickly reduced my social anxiety when I thought of this years ago.

Reconsidering this and applying it to anything close to an issue that I have is being susceptible to NSFW media. It's actually kind of incredibly humorous now pretending it's some dude. Dudes don't have tits or vags so it just breaks everything lol. Just tell yourself they could be trannys. If you're into that or are just bisexual, well you have another rant coming as I can show how they are the worst kind of degenerate fuckers.

Actually applying the piece of meat thing works really well for media stuff. I mean they are literally trying to show off with the meat they have, so it works for reducing their efforts into ludicrousness. It's not even mean in this case but an actual more accurate perception. The person is trying to show off their body, it is what it is.

As for freedom from lust you just need to as they say transmute the energy causing the lust into something else.

>>81511

the term "spiritual energy" is kind of ambiguous. Personally I transmute the energy into a drive/motivation to make something of myself


 No.81515

Freedom from lust shouldn't be difficult at all. If you aren't married, then redirect all lustful desires into the vision of a future where you are married; just remind yourself this problem wouldn't exist if you weren't alone and work towards whatever problems are stopping you from being ready for marriage. Anytime I see a beautiful girl, whether I think she's a whore or not, I just realize it's pointless since I don't know the person and don't know if she's marriage material (well a whore probably isn't but I don't like to judge, I mean you shouldn't assume). Any of them could be the one for you but are you ready to introduce yourself before you get to know them?

People blindly telling lies and contributing to this mess are either shills or ill-informed. Truth is, a full healthy kundalini awakening requires a couple acting in harmony.


 No.81521

>>81515

>full healthy kundalini awakening requires a couple acting in harmony

Bullshit in every aspect, the path leading to any sort of "awakening" is always solo, you can't rely on other beings to promote your self development

the point of renouncing your lust isn't getting a gf, it's the attainment of ascension from the low, gross plane of material lust


 No.81522

>>81450

that didn't last long


 No.81531

>>80722

Lost it right at the end. I didn't even have any desire to fap till today. Pledging two more weeks and fasting at least two days in the next week.


 No.81535

>>81521

Some of self development requires interaction with other people, I wouldn't say that has to do with reliance or not but isolating yourself from your species is going to limit your self development, so that part of what you said is definitely bullshit.

And like you said there are many sorts of awakenings, but to say that 'ALL' of them are always solo is bullshit and pretty arrogant. What I consider a full 'healthy' awakening would require active use of all the faculties provided within your body. Going solo would be letting your root and sacral chakra deteriorate. It's that simple.

I didn't say I want a girl friend for even that is degenerate, I said I wanted marriage for the purposes of procreation. It's no joke planning to pass on your genetics. Also would be nice to have someone with the same goals as me; when I was younger I always wished I could clone myself as there's just not enough time for one person to do everything

Sure the awakening that you have for your goals, or what is 'meant' for you may not require anyone but yourself, but that doesn't go for everyone. Don't be arrogant.


 No.81550

>>81535

There's obviously no point in arguing with you as the logic of your posts has proven you to be a mundane.


 No.81557

>>81550

Giving up that easily? Ah you're so pathetic that you can't explain anything you say eh? If you're not a shill then have fun being brainwashed


 No.81565

>>81557

>hu dah muhfugg bigs me dats bix nood craka


 No.81672

>>81510

You could be having a natural physic response.

Theres is a difference between "sex wet dreams" and normal physical realese.

If you realesed semen, its a "sex wet dream" if not no QI energy has been out but only the "semen water".

Im no expertise, read the book of the swani I recommended. You should aim to transmutte the energy by reabsorving the producced semen rather than dropping it out. You most likelly, just had a seminial fluid realiese.

Wiil be honest, its really a hardship because just seeing a sexual atractive object can lead to enough lust to "re active" the semen and double the work necessary to transmute the energy.

Modern "free" world makes sure you have no peace moment in this.

Btw the "willpower" of Atkinson is not enough. You should kill the root of desire anyhow. Looking at a girl and see a corpse or just the old decrepty woman she will turn into.


 No.81675

>>81521

This all day long.

>>81514

Seeing "dudes" can backfire you even more. Its a false image and reality, do you even mara, bro?

Anyhow, seeing flesh and bones its an accure reality, its no way false. It can be dehumanizing if you dont balance that with compassion.

Dont use trick to trick your illusion, use reality.

> spiritual energy

Just turn the violent sexual energy into a subliminal high energy.


 No.81925

>>81675

>Seeing "dudes" can backfire you even more. Its a false image and reality, do you even mara, bro?

Yes that's why I said to see everyone simply as human beings regardless of their gender. The most true image of reality would be seeing all entities simply as they are, regardless of genders. species, etc.

I was just being facetious there, providing a fallacious example of what one can do when confronted/bombarded with hypersexual media. Of course one should just simply ignore them but an alternative is to produce paradoxes to turn the media into something to laugh at.

If you agree with the other anon saying that 'any sort of "awakening" is always solo' then can you attempt to refute how I explain the fallaciousness of that statement?


 No.81946

>>81672

Everyone knows that japanese media is the best way to kill your attractive to women.

After knowing the idealized perfect woman how could you be attracted to their lesser equivalent?

Truly the japanese are the most spiritually advanced of races.


 No.82667

>>81946

friendly reminder that associating good traits to a race is also racism.


 No.82670

After not fapping for a while, sometimes I dream of sucking my own dick…

>>82667

I think that was satire. Probably referring to those weaboos that love anime and wank to hentai. It produced the 3dpd meme, pretty jokes


 No.82673

I have a theory on why celibacy is advised by many occult schools both eastern and western.

The goal of sexual stimulation is to procreate, when ejaculating energy from the lower dantiens in large amounts and the heart dantiens in smaller amounts is forced through the genitals in order to receive the necessary energy required to create a healthy child. This energy is received in the lower dantiens of the female and the combined creative energies are meant to aid in the process of the fetus being created and receiving the stored bursts of combined creative energies.


 No.82674

>>82667

Friendly reminder that nobody gives a fuck if you think they're racist you jew rat kike bastard.

>MUH RACISM BLUH BLUH BLUH

>I'M SO ADVANCED AND BETTER THAN YOU THE PATH TURNS YOU INTO A LIBERAL TRUST ME BRUH I'M AN ASCENDED MASTER NOW STAHP HURTIN MY FEELIES AND LOVE ALL NIGGERS

wew


 No.82684

>>80604

>>81155

>>80884

>Read the last 100 or so pages of that Atkinson book

>Basically boils down to: "Realize that that shooting loads depletes you and that keeping loads regenerates you. Technique: Breathe in, visualize regenerative energy moving up from your balls and breathe out, visualizing it moving to some part of your body or all of it, fam."

This fucking guy. I'm not saying he's wrong, but that's the most egregious example of stretching content to meet a word count I've seen since my own high school essays. Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill is better I think, talks about transmutation and has a modest section on not squirting your creative essence into a sock.


 No.82686

File: 1c29b68f3809e01⋯.png (10.52 KB, 500x149, 500:149, ClipboardImage.png)

>>82674

>>I'M SO ADVANCED AND BETTER THAN YOU THE PATH TURNS YOU INTO A LIBERAL TRUST ME BRUH I'M AN ASCENDED MASTER NOW STAHP HURTIN MY FEELIES AND LOVE ALL NIGGERS


 No.82688

>>82673

That's true and all, but that theory didn't actually explain why celibacy is advised. You should expand on it, would be interesting to hear it

>>82684

>>Basically boils down to: "Realize that that shooting loads depletes you and that keeping loads regenerates you. Technique: Breathe in, visualize regenerative energy moving up from your balls and breathe out, visualizing it moving to some part of your body or all of it, fam."

Hahaha I've literally thought of doing that completely on my. Actually I don't know if I thought of that in relation to my balls but it was definitely somethjing like spreading energy out to increase motication

I actually forgot about it completely until you said that, good shit dude. Should post that summary in the thread for reviews on recommended reading.

Also yea I've actually read some of think and grow rich. Absolutely brilliant


 No.82691

>>82686

>I don't actually know what projection means so I'm going to shitpost with this ad hom rhetoric

nice post as always protagonist

kill yourself bitch


 No.82694

File: 0c50987c3e18357⋯.png (608.79 KB, 564x539, 564:539, ClipboardImage.png)

>>82691

>kill yourself bitch

triggered

>ad hom rhetoric

>implying you even said anything worthy of refuting

you're cute. Here's some basic education for the funny babby

like seriously you must be deranged to think you were in some debate. Keep your sperging about fallacies for when you say something of worth


 No.82737

Pledging a week, to be repeated 4 times.

Doing it for a ritual to Venus, offering her my celibacy in return for her assisting me with forging more meaningful relationships with women; and to increase my sexual potency.

If I do fail I guarantee I won't ejaculate, since I've practiced dry orgasms via Mantak Chia's teachings for well over a year now.


 No.82739

>go over a week without masturbating

>today I suddenly go back to reading jap sex comics

>suddenly enjoy the actual act of reading the comics

>become aroused but no urge to physically masturbate

What the fuck.

It's like I'm masturbating mentally.

Is this normal?


 No.82767

>>82684

>>Basically boils down to: "Realize that that shooting loads depletes you and that keeping loads regenerates you. Technique: Breathe in, visualize regenerative energy moving up from your balls and breathe out, visualizing it moving to some part of your body or all of it, fam."

This is the single most important thing ever


 No.82829

File: 64e7567cd9786e7⋯.jpg (294.14 KB, 503x727, 503:727, zoroaster.jpg)

Pledging one month.

What to do when the desire becomes too strong?


 No.82832

>>82829

Just siphon the energy from your sacral to your LDT and transmute it by bringing it up through each chakra all the way into the crown and then pulling it back into your LDT.

I find it to be a good method and if you use it properly you won't have desire.


 No.82847

>>82767

>Breathe in, visualize regenerative energy moving up from your balls and breathe out, visualizing it moving to some part of your body or all of it


 No.82974

Take aspirin to reduce the swelling and pain of blueballs. Tape your dick shut with medical tape so you don't rub off on your underpants. Those two things help a ton with night emissions.

I ejaculate once a month because I realized going any further than that actually reduces my energy to be productive. I don't feel sluggish or down after ejaculation because my body has plenty of stored up energy from a whole month of no ejaculation. I still masturbate and look at porn because I feel that desire is an essential energy to cultivate and control. When my balls start to hurt from holding in my desire I take an asprin and the swelling goes down in about half an hour.


 No.83128

>>80636

>>80640

Pledging forty days for solidarity with occultism


 No.83130

Day 156 and I just learned >>82847. I can't believe I probably wasted all that energy I was gathering by not using it.

>>82974

Are you sure emissions aren't okay? I figure if it's something the body does automatically, it seems like maintenance. Plus, I'm pretty sure it doesn't contain many vital nutrients and it's also much lesser than actual ejaculate. Taping your dick just seems like you'll just hold it in the tubing.


 No.83133

>>82974

>Tape your dick shut with medical tape so you don't rub off on your underpants.

What kind of third world shithole do you live in where people don't sleep naked?

Fucking hell what kind of subhuman animal sleeps with fucking clothes on, what the fuck is this. If you wear clothes in bed you should honestly consider suicide, it would be your greatest contribution to society.

>masturbating to porn

Drawn art and literary smut are the only acceptable forms of pornography, if you masturbate to film pornography you are donating your loosh to whores.

>not moving the energy from your sacral to your LDT

>not knowing how to spiral that energy and transmute it into a higher form

JUST

OBULLSHITISM

MY

/fringe/

UP


 No.83136

>>emissions

Jesus Christ.


 No.83155

>>83133

>What kind of third world shithole do you live in where people don't sleep naked?

>Fucking hell what kind of subhuman animal sleeps with fucking clothes on, what the fuck is this. If you wear clothes in bed you should honestly consider suicide, it would be your greatest contribution to society.

How does this make any sense at all? One of the more ironic things


 No.83197

>>83130

they aren't okay when it's semen emissions from a wet dream. I eventually take the tape off to piss out anything building up in there.

>>83133

you're a sperg


 No.83222

>>82737

Made it one week, but I woke up this morning and had a wank because the morning wood was crazy strong, and I spilled a little seed despite my methods; I tend to build up a lot of fluid if I don't masturbate for a few days.

Going for another week now, and will try to make it more than 7 days.


 No.83224

>>83222

When you have problems with a hard on just focus on something boring until it goes away

what I do is just literally staring at my dick and watch it slowly fall, works every time


 No.83301

I'm a little skeptical of my capacity to do this right now, but i'm pledging 10 days. Let's see how i feel after that decline in testosterone after day 8. Gonna try some transmutation too or focused toughtform.


 No.83303

>>83301

Hope you manage it friend


 No.83305

Masturbating daily fucks your brain chemistry all the way up.

The burst of serotonin and hormones when you ejaculate just fucks your brain up fams.


 No.83319

Women are such a lower species, they can never please a man such as a communion with god does. Their bodies are grotesque and everything attractive about them is an illusion through fraudulent practices plus conditioning by mommy.

I'll only be happy when all women in their nakedness are under the complete subjugation of real enlightened Taoist wizards as nothing but fucking trinkets.


 No.83321

>>83319

Sex is like food, you can survive without both even though society thinks otherwise, and while you can go without they both bring pleasure.


 No.83329

30 days

on my 3rd day now


 No.83330

pledging eternity


 No.83374

File: f9a5f8cd25a78c8⋯.png (116.32 KB, 1224x792, 17:11, Unbenannt.png)

I can understand how I am trapped in this illusory game. The easiest way to exorcise the lust (imo) is to blind yourself from this current state of things…just blindfold yourself and don't use your two eyes…illusory

Yesterday while I was deeply in meditation I wondered if I could just keep my eyes closed forever and just refuse to use them again to map reality around me…rather relying only on other senses which are being less targeted by the manipulative forces. But what kind of work could I do if I was blind (maybe only fringe work)

I pledge….dunno. Sex is feeling good. Masturbate is approximate to sex, but still great. I don't feel good on earth that much these days, so I guess I will pledge a small amount of time and try to stay clean until the weekend


 No.83377

>>83374

>sex/fapping because I don't feel good

really dude? there's so many differeny ways to 'feel good'

good is subjective so what makes you feel good depends on your perception, if you can meditate well then you should be able to neutralize anything that makes you feel bad, but now you just need to rationalize whatever to create the good feeling of motivation

or you know, you can have a hobby??? meditate on making music/drawing/doing math/anything

if that doesn't make sense to you (it totally should if you're meditating well, just focus on the feeling/experience itself of the hobby) then consider that life is like a silly mmorpg and you are trying to reach level 99


 No.83380

File: 6fa02b9f97b23fa⋯.jpg (95.21 KB, 416x417, 416:417, 1472967079692.jpg)

Okay I get the whole "mind over body" philosophy and training patience it is all fun and games until you teach yourself to be ashamed of sex and masturbation. Catholic church has achieved that and they are about as far from enlightenment as one can be. Stay safe people, and remember that love is the most pure and honest feeling there is, it's never wrong to love.


 No.83386

Pledging 90 days of celibacy. I just want to see what the benefits are, if any. And whether those benefits are worth abstaining from porn/masturbation/sex.


 No.83439

>>83380

>being such a mundane that you don't understand the difference between repression and discipline

You fuckers really are something.


 No.83443

File: 1ddad5435378468⋯.jpg (106.03 KB, 352x500, 88:125, RAW.jpg)

>>82829

I failed.

I'll try again pledging two weeks.


 No.83450

>>83380

> teach yourself to be ashamed of sex and masturbation.

da fuq

it's all about conserving energy instead of wasting or giving it away, among so many other reasons

shame is good it it's not misplaced

be ashamed of…

>wasting energy

>wasting time

>allowing psyche to be degraded

>disrespecting/objectifying women (unless it's hentai or something, in which case see following)

>getting turned on by cartoons that may or may not be voiced by effeminate men

>warping expectations of sex into unattainable unhealthy ideals that aren't even idealistic, are false(in case of specific abnormal fetishes, also applies to extreme objectification among other scenarios)

>desecrating the sanctification of matrimony (perhaps this wouldn't be if you can't reproduce or won't live long or something. this one is probably the most subjective)(this point is expanded on below in the corresponding point)

>being degenerate for other any reasons, and over all (yes all these reasons are examples of being degenerate)

>having the same amount of degenerate influence on someone else (in case of cheap sex, essentially doubling the degradation than if you had gone solo)

sex and masturbation itself isn't inherently shameful but if any of the previous happens then it becomes so

in some cases it's not shameful like

>having blue balls (though the cause of blue balls may or not be worthy of shame)

>literally wasting too much time fighting lustful thoughts especially when you have a deadline. just jerk it and move on with life (your lack of self control is the cause of shame in this case)

>someone very enticing is trying to encourage you to have sex, so you jerk off instead (least likelihood of shamefulness especially if this someone was being deceptive, though if the situation was caused by your actions, then possible shameful)

>you're in a wholesome sanctified relationship (you wouldn't mind having your mate involved in the most personal matters for the rest off your life, also you want to have children if possible, also your judgement is not being clouded by lust meaning you fully understand your mate inside out with all insecurities and life goals and etc)

note that people can be in relationships in years and barely even know anything about each other. this is quite the norm in western society

if anyone has any other examples of non shameful acts of sex/masturbation do share, or debate any of the points I mentioned. would be a worthy discussion


 No.83460

>>83380

Beating off to chinese girls by yourself isn't 'love'.


 No.83461

>>83450

was good until

>desecrating the sanctification of matrimony

>getting married

>ever

>>83460

what if i love doing it


 No.83539

File: e1f013ca3b1b6a9⋯.jpg (91.27 KB, 633x710, 633:710, 2354342653256245.jpg)

I have some fetishes that disgust me and I've tried nofap over and over. I jerk off like 5, 6 or 7 times a day. I swear to not do it then I do it the same day. Longest I went was two weeks but that was just once. All other times I barely made it one day, except for one other time recently I went 5 days.

The other day I went one day on nofap, and then I went to bed at night and I woke up an hour later with a boner. This happens sometimes. I get erections more full than I can during the day when this happens. But the other night I woke up after an hour of sleep and I was actually already masturbating as I woke. I was turned on by the thought of eating my own cum. I fapped thinking of that. I've tasted it a few times but when I was like 13 and 14. Didn't like it and not done it since (23 now). Anyway, I put my legs over my head and walked them down the wall so I could cum in my own mouth. It was fucking gross and I spat it out. I don't even know why the fuck I wanted to do it.

Shortly after I suddenly got this image in my head of a terrifying woman hovering over me. Do you think I am under attack by something? wat do?


 No.83548

>>83539

You need to take some desperate measures. Install a web filter (e.g. k9 web protection) to block porn. Keep yourself occupied, workout, read, do something when you feel the urges. Transmute your sexual energy mentioned earlier in this thread. Do some banishing meditations. You may be under attack by something that's harvesting your sexual energy.


 No.83552

>>83539

You sound exactly like me. Open your chakras and work on your energy body. For some reason, it just went away for me. Do as long of streaks of nofap as you can, but don't be afraid of failure (don't let yourself fail though). Eventually you'll just lose the desire.

I don't trust k9 due to the way it works. Download leechblock for your browser and put in every site you know you can get porn on (don't block 8ch but block every nsfw focused board you've gone on). Write the password down somewhere you can't easily get it, or make it too many steps to get too when you want to fap.

Make sure you socialize in person often. You'll naturally be more sexually aggressive (which is good) and it'll keep you from being bored and relying on porn.

A technique I picked up (didn't use until 150+ days though) was to channel energy from your groin and put it into your whole body/chakras. Just breathe in, move the energy up, breathe out, separate and move energy into chakras. If you're good at mindfulness you can repeat "I choose not to feel this urge" or whatever, and it should work surprisingly well.

Just know when to cut off thoughts before they become too much to overcome.


 No.83553

>nerds


 No.83556

>>83548

>>83552

>having no self-control

>being an animal


 No.83573

>>83548

>desperate measures

>adblock

Dude needs a priest lmao

>>83539

Do the following or regret it.

>solar banishing, deep meditation, one foot earth, one foot fun, draw as much white light as possible into your body

>use this energy to infuse your lower tree chakras with white light, breathe in draw from root, earth & crown, sun, same time, to chakra you want clean, breathe out darkness that gets displaced by white light

>sleep with light, music, prayer

>get incense, shower when you feel urge (water makes it really hard for spirits to attach to your aura)

>next next you feel it's presence, stuff it into a sphere into a box (do the same with the darkness you breathe out) and after you collected it all burn it

>shes to strong to trap? Rend her to pieces with any attacks you can , rip apart, swirl her energy, make it hard to her to manifest

>>83380

No love in blowing a load in your own mouth.


 No.83575

>>83303

Thank you brother.

Day 5 and counting. A few strong urges today, but still going. I know it's going to get harder the next days, but i will do it.

I wish the best fortune and willpower to all here enduring this challenge, specially to >>83539 who is in the hardest situation. May we be strong enough to command ourselves.


 No.83579

Hey guys, if you avoid completely sexual thoughts, for many days at a time your senses all become stronger and you can do psychokinesis using the built-up sex energy and also very intense reality manifestation.


 No.83588

>>83548

>>83573

k9 isn't adblock. it's an incredibly powerful internet filter that won't let you ever watch porn without deleting the entire computer and reinstalling windows if you don't have the password

I've done this before when I was in high school and other times of low self control, set my brother's email as the password reset.

shit fucking works, I ended up jacking off to lingerie from some shitty image hosting albums shit probably doesn't

exist

yea the k9 blocker couldn't let me even find normal lingerie shit to jack off to it was terrifyingly great


 No.83614

Why is fapping to porn so disappointing? Why is fapping in general so disappointing? It pretty much feels like nothing. Maybe, just sort of, a little bit you feel something briefly and then it's gone.

On the other hand, and again I don't know why, having a succubus suck your dick feels intensely more pleasurable right from the first stroke and everyone after as well.

Any kind of sex with succubus feels legit pleasurable while fapping just makes me feel gross, disappointed, and drained.

Any explanations?

I don't understand why one is so much more intensely powerful than the other.

Doesn't matter also if I stop fapping for 7 days straight and then fap again; only difference it makes is I cum in seconds instead of minutes but it still feels like nothing and is disappointing.

Whereas sex with succubus is a completely different feel.

Is the dick electric or something and it needs to be plugged into to feel?

What is going on?


 No.83615

>>83588

Would that block redpill stuff too though? "racism" and so on?


 No.83620

File: 2b7ce2cb5289562⋯.jpg (28.97 KB, 480x342, 80:57, MUSTNOT.jpg)

>This thread.

>Pleadges.

As long as you are on this "must… not… fap…" mentality you are all doomed to fail.

Your energy goes where your attention is. If you want to improve your life, instead of focusing on NOT DOING(not fapping), you should focus on DOING(working out, studying, etc…).

Gradually increase the amount of time you spend on important long term things and do whatever you want on your free time.

Also, there is not much of a reason to avoid specifically fapping. Magickal energy can be obtained from many other means(It's even arguable if you lose it by fapping) and the "science" behind it is not trustworthy.


 No.83623

File: 3cf0be39cd176f5⋯.jpg (30 KB, 500x345, 100:69, malefemaleoccult.jpg)

>>83614

The scientific reason is prolactin. ( source: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sex-is-four-times-better-than-masturbation-18591.shtml )

It seems that the succubus you summoned is very close to a real woman, Could you please share your method with me?

On the occult level, here is a quote by Plato: “According to Greek mythology, humans were originally created with four arms, four legs and a head with two faces. Fearing their power, Zeus split them into two separate parts, condemning them to spend their lives in search of their other halves.”.

You can find a similar gender explanation on Hinduism and some interpretations of Bible.

Sex as a magickal act is completely different formula. Picture related.

And again, please share your succubus evocation method.


 No.83641

>>83615

you choose which categories to block, there's a ton of them. 3 or 4 cover anything remotely sexual

>>83620

ever heard of something called setting goals?

no one is focusing on not fapping.

and if you can obtain energy from other means then why fap and lose energy at all? just obtain even more energy

try actually reading the OP


 No.83645

>>83623

>The scientific reason is prolactin. ( source: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sex-is-four-times-better-than-masturbation-18591.shtml )

…but this is with a succubus not a flesh human. I'm basically fucking a being made out of pure energy / thought.

>It seems that the succubus you summoned is very close to a real woman, Could you please share your method with me?

Everything I do and know is only understandable if you know and do everything I do. As such, I'm going to have to write a whole fucking book for this. It won't be that long, but I have to write it anyways, as I have someone offline asking me to explain shit every day.


 No.83650

>>83645

>but this is with a succubus not a flesh human.

why would that make a difference? sex with someone physical or not doesn't change the fact that you're not alone (or at least you believe you're not alone) and this changes the way your body reacts as compared to just jerking off


 No.83699

I've never consciously masturbated or had sex. Could this effect my energy badly?


 No.83709

>>83699

Sex is the sharing and cultivation of sexual energy which can be transmuted into life energy if properly handled. You're not losing out but you're not gaining either.


 No.83768

i think discribing reality is a form of masturbation i want to cease to continue


 No.83797

pledge 1 month


 No.83823

>>83301

Well, pledge sucessfully completed. I do in fact feel better in a general way. More energetic indeed.

Some urges tormented me but i managed it.

But i'm not gonna stop here. I need more time.

Pledging 20 more days. Let's hope that i have the strengh to complete this one also, i feel like i really need it.


 No.83838

On day 9 right now, pledging until at least Halloween, possibly until early November (my birthday). Also I'm new to this board (usually use /pol/ and /bane/) so hello to everyone :-)


 No.83839

File: 2d3cf3195341895⋯.png (1.63 MB, 2225x1086, 2225:1086, TVAfUo5.png)

>>83838

>those digits


 No.83843

File: 20edf86a01e083d⋯.jpg (660.77 KB, 1067x800, 1067:800, Curiot2[1].jpg)

>>83374

Literally can't stop fapping

I fapped three times already in the last two hours

why is my will so weak T_T

Pledging hmmmm maybe until Sat.morning, let's see what I can do


 No.83846

>>83843

just keep doing it until it bores you, don't allow yourself to choose another fetish.

just keep doing it until it's no longer fun.

Thats what I did, now I stopped cold turkey and am on my 15th day of no fap.


 No.83848

>>83846

>thick thighs big breasts naked red twi'lek sith masturbating with her lightsaber


 No.83854

>>83848

>thick thighs

>big breasts

HOL UP TIPP IS A NIGGA WE WUZ SHITPOSTERS NIGgAS


 No.83856

File: 0957c8460aa0fac⋯.jpg (2.05 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1021271 - Darth_Hell Darth….jpg)

>>83854

>being this much of a low test cuck

Theres no greater feel in the world than tfw dominating a woman who could crush you between her legs but wont because you command her respect and loyalty, loving your equal in strength and power.

Though, I suppose that if you're weak you'll only derive that pleasure out of someone equally weak.

>girlettes, tits & ass (defining female traits) [404]

>attractive


 No.83857

File: 3a46a9a3fde6169⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 1.51 MB, 3360x2100, 8:5, 340946 - Darth_Hell Darth_….jpg)


 No.83859

dont ever call me a nigger again you double nigger


 No.83863

>>83856

I'll admit the domination fetish is hot But I'm afraid it won't work.

there is only one thing that will stop me from abstaining from ejaculation

and that's would be a girl I'm seeing, that is if I get a chance to claim her virginity.

I won't count it as a loss though I still wouldn't have masturbated


 No.83868

>>83863

>domination

Haha, no.


 No.83869

Godspeed busting a nut in your qt anon.


 No.83965

I am pledging to 30 days of celibacy.

I just fucked up after 10 days.

Time to give it another shot.


 No.84073

File: 4c5f151720afbc1⋯.jpg (80.37 KB, 499x499, 1:1, 1473835634704.jpg)

>>83843

Fapped 3 times already, been awake for 2 or 3 hours.

WHY DO I USE SO MUCH ENERGY

I WILL CONTROL MY URGES AND NEXT TIME I FEEL LIKE FAPPING I WILL REMEMBER THAT KEK IS BY MY SIDE

lord kek give me strength to control my urges

rey brujo cuida la mota

rey negro cuida el negocio

i am no longer masturbating

I am a master of my flesh

I control my urges and use my energy for the bodhisattva

shine forth milarepa

narlopa

tilopa

farlopa


 No.84078

>>84073

Everytime you are looking at porn, reflect upon the followng: You will never do any of this things those guys are doing to these pixelated whores in your screen in "real life" if you don't quit masturbation. These guys went out there to get them and you need to do the same. First step is to control yourself.


 No.84080

>>84078

>Everytime you are looking at porn, reflect upon the followng: You will never do any of this things those guys are doing to these pixelated whores in your screen in "real life" if you don't quit masturbation.

B-But I fap exclusively to guro and loli anon…


 No.84082

File: 90e400246108f5b⋯.jpg (88.77 KB, 1400x700, 2:1, Dragonball-Z-Vegeta.jpg)

It is time to take back what is mine! I pledge 30 days no p0rn and no fapping. As before, I expect pointing and laughing should I fail.


 No.84185

>rediscovered orgasm without ejaculation

INFINITE POWER

protip: masturbation isnt anywhere near as enjoyable without emotional connections


 No.84209

File: c0c1d8a0267e023⋯.png (436.59 KB, 600x300, 2:1, mih.png)

>>83823 Here. I (partially) failed the secound pledge today.

A few days after i made my secound pledge i began watching porn again on a daily basis. I couldn't help myself to stop watching, but i didn't masturbate either, until today. I started to masturbate but had the will to stop it before cumming, and ended up a few hours later releasing myself while casting a sigil.

I see it as a fail to pledge, but the whole experience still was a victory of my will.

18 days of no fap in total.

I don't know exactly how to proceed now, but it's certain that i will reduce even further the influence of porn and meaningless masturbation in my life, and will do more pledges if necessary.


 No.84412

day 27 3 days short of goal

broke down and wanked.

wasn't even good 0/10

I'm kinda disgusted with it tbh.


 No.84417

>>84185

Indeed channeling that intense emotion up into my brain gives me a high more pleasurable than any drug I've tried (weed and booze). I keep my back free from any obstruction such as a chair, bed, or wall by kneeling down or laying on my side or stomach. This seems to help a lot with channeling the energy away from my genitals and into my head. After that wonderful rush my homeyness and erection subsides and I can continue having a glorious day.

It helps me to visualize the energy in my genitals and sucking up up through a straw. Every gulp of energy goes straight to my head.


 No.84432

>>83965

Fucked it up by masturbating to an arousing video game yesterday.

Fucked a hooker today to motivate myself not to cum.

Goal still 30 days. Starting now.


 No.84435

40 days in and I have a growing urge to become a trap

why /fringe/


 No.84451

>>84435

You probably drink jew-water and eat jew-food. The estrogen is killing you, rip.


 No.84464

pledging 30 days again, I shall not wank


 No.85070

File: 1a8f69473dde910⋯.jpg (24.75 KB, 497x354, 497:354, memritrash.jpg)

Pledging three months. All or nothing. I don't want to waste my energy and time on yanking my doodle.


 No.85077

My porn addiction was almost gone and then I relapsed. Somehow got to bdsm and femdom, but not as pain oriented, just the ideas of submission and domination. Noticed the huge surge of missing energy from finishing. Ive never felt that spiritually drained and yet physically fine. Pledging my life. Ive had enough of this shit. Id rather have sexual energy than focus on fetishes and throw my focus to people who don't deserve or can even reciprocate. Everytime I feel the urge Im going to head outside for a walk from now on or read a book.


 No.85088

>haven't masturbated or used the pornographic jew I haven't used 3d porn in like a year at least just degenerate drawings

>having dream last night

>suddenly in the dream I go full fuck shit mode

>wake up

>I'm orgasming like nothing I've experienced

>but I'm not ejaculating

>my left hand is right on my perineum

>the first three fingers are pressed onto the perineum muscle

>orgasm lasts like 10 minutes

I don't even know what the fuck that was. It was unlike anything I've ever experienced in my life, instead of the energy looshing out of my body it went in a circuit and flooded me with vital energy.


 No.85090

File: b58f4ec09ffdc0c⋯.png (71.23 KB, 621x876, 207:292, 54a5abe029.png)

>>85088

Sounds exactly like you've been intuitively guided to finding the taoist three finger lock. It stops you from ejaculating so you don't lose your energy. Don't overuse it though, It's more of a failsafe against going over the edge rather than a safe method of dry fapping.

You can learn more about this by reading Mantak Chias books. Multi orgasmic man or Cultivating the male energy


 No.85092

>>85090

Yeah I'm pretty sure my higher self helped me out because I was close to losing a bunch of loosh. The amount of vital energy I've had since I stopped masturbating is incredible, really makes you think about the real reason for the heavy pushing of normalizing porn and casual sex.


 No.85114

>>85092

Outta curiosity, how long has it been for you? I'm on Day 19 of a 30 day pledge and have *definitely* noticed drastic improvement in my motivation and willpower. I want to know if it just keeps on getting better


 No.85124

>>85114

At least 3 months.

If I remember correctly I stopped sometime in late June.


 No.85412

Day 5 and going strong.


 No.85427

>>85092

Smiley?


 No.85431

>>85427

>calling me a kike

Fuck you too pal.


 No.85462

>>77412

Pledging one month. Won't let lust happen unless I give that energy a purpose.


 No.85463

File: c154c0dbebbf8f4⋯.jpeg (41.5 KB, 500x500, 1:1, d578cdfeb7dc93ace77021e1a….jpeg)

>>81155

>>read some atkinson

I've heard a lot about Atkinson, but never got into it. Can I get a link to that stuff? At least the title of the book.


 No.85486

File: 9c8fadc4778d04d⋯.jpg (58.67 KB, 350x411, 350:411, vegetavwx2014_928.jpg)

>>84082

I have succeeded. 30 days have been completed. The big M is no longer on my forehead.

I can say you really owe it to yourselves to tough it out and give it a try. I feel in fantastic shape. My willpower and energy have never been higher. The taoists are onto something in their belief that sexual energy is creative energy. I feel stronger in almost every aspect of my life. You really owe it to yourselves to tough it out and give it a try, at least once.

It's going to be a tough sell going back.


 No.85570

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I pledge to never spill my mundane seed ever again so I can truly raise up my kundalini.


 No.85573

pledging 5 days


 No.85630

File: 00155b39cf077b3⋯.jpg (73.74 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, 1477641946488.jpg)

Currently sitting on 22 days. Noticed a couple of key things at the moment;

I had a pretty serious porn addiction before I started. I tried a number of things to slow down or cut it off and nothing worked until I recently decided to end all masturbation. Now, 22 days later, I still check all my usual porn spots and I'm finding that I have less and less time any interest in what I'm seeing.

I'm finding content that once upon a time would've been "good enough, meh" and now I just skip through it for 15 seconds and close it. It's a great result.

I've also got a dramatically larger amount of energy now almost each and every day. Which is fantastic. I feel brighter, more intelligent, more productive and overall I'm in a better mood.

I have one question for our more experienced brothers. Some days along the journey so far, including most recently day 20, I do find myself somewhat consumed by the desire for sexual release. I'm not thinking about pornography or masturbation, but just finding myself pacing and getting frustrated and having a hard time pinning my energy on one topic because I'm consumed with thoughts about spreading my seed, so to speak. I didn't even think about masturbating, I just couldn't shake off my burning desire.

Has anyone got any advice on what I should do when I feel that way? How can I take all that burning energy and push into something more productive?


 No.85719

>>85573

I fucked up

at least it wasnt porn this time

pledging 5 again


 No.85728

Pledging through November to break my own record. Currently on day 24 and would like to make it to at least day 50. The best I've currently achieved is 46 days.


 No.85729

File: fea17f086d8bcd0⋯.jpg (99.13 KB, 1302x733, 1302:733, 33a6729e0c.jpg)

Wanted to drop some info for people who are struggling. Won't make it easier, but it helps to know what you're up against.

The first few days, you're being crucified by three hormones in particular, Oxytocin, Prolactin and Dopamine. Oxytocin is a big deal in relationships since it's 'the love chemical' so we'll talk about that some other time. Prolactin and Dopamine are most interesting to us here;

After you ejaculate your body will do two things. Drop the Dopamine, and spike the Prolactin. Dopamine as we know is your happy chemical. Related to reward and pleasure seeking behavior. Prolactin is responsible for causing pregnant mothers to produce milk, but more interestingly it mutes your sexual response. Breastfeeding mothers don't get very aroused due to the high level of Prolactin in their bodies. Men who are injected with Prolactin will lose their erections. So you can think of it as a handbrake on your sexual arousal.

So what does that mean? The sharp dip in Dopamine combined with the sharp rise in Prolactin creates that craving that I'm sure you're familiar with. It's at it's worst on post fap days 4, 5 and 6 when your Dopamine will be lowest (Meaning you'll want to fap again to get that hit) and paradoxically your Prolactin will be highest (Meaning even if you do, you won't even enjoy it!)

After day 7, The Prolactin starts to drop to baseline and your Dopamine will start to rise again so you'll notice yourself start to feel better.

You're basically fighting your hardest on days 4, 5 and 6. They'll be the worst. If you can ride those out, it'll get easier with each passing day and you're mostly in the clear.

After this I'd reccomend reading Mantak Chias "Cultivating Male Sexual Energy" so you know what we're doing here and what you're playing with.

I hope this helped in some small way!


 No.85733

File: 9890fb82b555df2⋯.gif (3.62 MB, 320x356, 80:89, giphy.gif)

>>85729

Would recommend keeping yourself extremely busy and your mind occupied in that time period.


 No.85734

>>85733

Sure, If it helps you! Figuring out how you tick is the key here since you're the one going through this challenge. If keeping active distracts you past that 3 day slump I mentioned, Then hell yeah. Do it. If you push yourself to the point of exhaustion into "Fuck everything, I just need to fap" territory, then not so much. You're going to have to find balance and do whatever it takes to get you past that initial week or so.

Do keep in mind the dip in your Dopamine will likely make you cranky and irritable. Above all else, I'd say trying to stay positive is the key. That's where emotional alchemy comes in handy.


 No.85735

>>85729

How much damage does one take from touching themselves (but not to orgasm) or becoming aroused by things but not acting on the urges?


 No.85737

Well as one grows more aware, it is really disgusting, as a human, having the necessity to jerk of almost every day or the slightest temptations. It really is, if you think about it…

But my question is, is it very bad to masturbate like once a day, - without the use of porn - ?


 No.85742

>>85737

Once a day is still a compulsion.

Even if you don't give as much energy to something external, you still lose some to the things around you. (Defining yourself as a chaos magician there are likely many things around you)


 No.85747

So I jerk off too much. And the porn I enjoy gets more depraved. So I'm renouncing fapping and not initiating sex with my wife. If she wants it, she'll get it. But I'm going to see how long I can go before blowing a load.

My biggest issues is after we have sex, I still feel unsatisfied or I enjoyed it so much thinking about it gets me horny. It's not unlike me to wake up at 3 am and rub one out while she sleeps because I can't shut my boner up. These are the times I feel powerless.

I'm on day 3. Let's see how long I can go.


 No.85766

>>85735

As far as I'm aware, None - Apart from the cultivation of a bad habit. Taoists believe you lose chi(loosh) through your eyes though. It won't be much, but if you want to lose -nothing-, that means no porn!

>>85747

>My biggest issues is after we have sex, I still feel unsatisfied or I enjoyed it so much thinking about it gets me horny

The red line on that little graph I posted here might be relevant to you.

>>85729

That one charts the Oxytocin response. Oxytocin is responsible for love and pair bonding (So a mother who's just given birth will dump buckets of the stuff to bond her to the newborn babby) See how it drops off real hard on days 3, 4 and 5 after an orgasm? If you've ever felt unattracted to her a few days after blowing a load, that'd be why. In evolutionary terms an orgasm signals your body. "Okay, this ones done. Go find a -different- woman to impregnate!" and that drop in Oxytocin makes you want to go, have your own space for a few days.

You should get her in on it, Tell her what you're trying to do and why. Then learn the stuff in Mantak Chias "Cultivating the male sexual energy" So you don't ever have to worry about this again.

I'm actually mad jelly of you bro. I wish I had a wife to practice this stuff with me. Lol.


 No.85771

>>85729

Yo, my man, what are the essential/best Mantak Chia books?

The guy has a shit ton of them, and a lot of them seem to cover the same shit, with some being more up to date but recycling a lot of info.


 No.85782

File: 39c5054c4233bca⋯.pdf (5.58 MB, Mantak.Chia.-.Awaken.Heali….pdf)

File: 711858af12a1fa0⋯.pdf (1.53 MB, Chia, Mantak - The Multi O….pdf)

>>85771

Ah, You made me realize I messed up.

You want "Multi Orgasmic man" instead of "Cultivating male sexual energy" which is the same with more fluff and a little harder to understand.

And I'd pair that with "Awaken Healing Light" which claims to be an intermediate book, but covers all of the basics anyway.

Anyway, Since I've got em right here. Merry early Christmas!


 No.85837

Created a thoughtform that seems to be quite effective so far. I powered it after a regretful fap session with an anti-fapping mantra, visualization of its form and loosh. Whenever I am about to check out pornography, have lustful imaginations or am about to fap, it pops into my mind and reminds me of the reasons I choose not to fap and the severe long term consequences of doing so. It really helps me consciously resist fapping and porn. Hope this method helps some of you out there.


 No.85862

>been on nofap for 222 days

>want to re-try mantak chia methods of sexual energy manipulation

>don't want to risk falling back into fapping for pleasure, losing my absurdly long streak, and missing the feeling i have all the time now

feelsbadman


 No.85863

>>85862

sex energy manipulation is gay- at least get the full year under your belt. You've definitely conquered the beast… why open the door back up?


 No.85865

>>85863

sex energy is apparently very strong, but i will not mess with it until i have a partner. i get a very "dark" feeling when i almost fall back into it (which only happened last night, not in months)

considering i desire to quit my abstinence the day after i oddly received a dark feeling to return, i should clearly avoid it. thank you.


 No.86123

>>78143

All I can think of is:

If you really think your only purpose is fucking fat bitches then ya, you are their meme. Fat lonely bitches give you their Energy through lust, just as the anons here make sluts stronger by masturbating to some random bitch.

Solution. Stop taking their energy. Stop embracing the good feelings of fucking them. You are a junkie now, that one which injects himself feminine fat.

That or what this anons said.

>>79366


 No.86150

I've been fapping without orgasm for two weeks now and I really do think I can keep going like this for the rest of my life without spilling any seed. Obviously it takes some exercises to siphon the built up energy into my other chakras so that it doesn't overload my root chakra and it's giving me tonnes of energy. I've yet to have any of those fabled "wet dreams" that people keep talking about… probably because I shut down my root chakra and keep my foreskin taped shut with medical tape when I'm not using it.


 No.86160

Pledging 24 hours, I'll up my time in increments.


 No.86163

File: 3e883d0594cd172⋯.jpg (26.86 KB, 250x321, 250:321, 250px-Vincent_Willem_van_G….jpg)

Guys, I need help.

I'm trying to give up fap and porn; and I've gone strong for nearly 6 weeks. I saw a cuckthread earlier on another board and now I can't stop thinking about that horrible horny hateful cuck porn… I hate myself for it; but every time I see nigs fucking beautiful white girls I go crazy. It bares mentioning I am very redpilled… what the fuck do I do? I don't want to ruin my long winning streak…


 No.86167

>>86163

Stop visiting places where that degeneracy is posted. Most surely you visit /b/. Stop watching porn and grab your balls by the pussy.


 No.86170

>>86163

>he actually watches interracial cuck porn

haha wow goy your brain must be so fucked up. good luck dude.


 No.86185

>>86163

Block all porn on your computer and when you desire to fap, do energy work to pull energy from your groin and recite "I do not feel this urge".

Just keep doing streak after streak, even if you fail. Eventually it just clicks.


 No.86219

>>86160

Pledging 48 hours now.


 No.86252

>>86163

You have major self esteem issues that you need to take care of, tbh.


 No.86286

Pledging goal: (at least) until Sunday, Nov. 20


 No.86291

Uhhh. What


 No.86313

>>86185

That's a pretty terrible auto-suggestion because it's focusing oneself on the urge one is supposedly not feeling instead of on a different thing to shift their attention to.


 No.86315

>>86313

I know, but it works for me; although I actually meant "I choose not to feel this urge."

I get better effects with it than trying to shift attention.


 No.86345

Wrote this for myself but I'll post it here I need help the greentext explains it but basically I've been addicted to porn and fapping for like 5 or more years and have had a lot of failed nofap attempts but this one is my longest in like 1 or 2 years and I dont want to break it yet but I am struggling:

Nofap meme- 8 or 9 days now

>more vivid dreams/dream memory and dream recall even without dream journal

>waking up and falling back asleep leads to mini-dream/more vivid and clearly recalled hypnagogic dreams

>more energy and shit, less lethargy,

>imagination seems more vivid creativity kinda coming back

>desire to create grows stronger and feels burning almost, but still in background kinda

>transmutation practiced at first- daily mediation and deep breathing exercise like 20 min

>less response to lewd stimulation/thoughts, could avoid easier than ever before

….

5 days or so later

>2 days now less transmutation, feeling restless, more lust

>harder to comitt to meditaiton even for 10 min cause restless mind,

>weak attempts that didnt last long, still procrastinating it

>response to lewd images weakening

>lusty lewd thoughts growing stronger and much more often in head, leading to lewd i agination scenarios i need to force out of

>more random boners and on day 8or 9 dik feels like it needs release like the tip of it feels like i need to pee but cant cause its just the feeling of it, feels almost like might hands free orgasm any minute

>becoming harder and harder to focus and let go of lewd thoughts creeping in

>sheer sensory stimulation seems to increase lust somehow-mynoise audio responding to it in lustful way like ocean audio stimulating lewd imagination like being with someone in a poool, etc and somewhat more vivid fantasies forming that i almost dont have control over, like i might literally get an literal audiogasm from sounds of water rushing swirling and stuff lol because of how those sounds seem to feel and also spurr lewd scenario fantasies

>boner during that time and kind of involuntary kegel stretch like trying to cum lol

>trying to avoid touching down there cause blueballs would suck

>becoming clear that if no further transmutation attempts will end up sinking deeper and eventually just fapping and orgasm to lewd fantasy spurred by sound of ocean waves and the scenario the mind makes up with it

>imagination has never felt so vivid and effortless like this, needs to be redirected and channeled for creative and escapism not lust and fap purposes tbh, would be a waste otherwise, fap might lead back to cycle of porn and low/dormant imagination again

>becoming abundantly clear the longer i go without porn/fap as habitually acclimated the longer the transmutation practice must be to append that, the longer without any meditation/deep breathing attempts the more the distraction seeking behavior happens interspersed with succumbing to lewd fantasies/thoughts for longer and longer periods

>unable to focus on solely meditation feeling restless seeking distraction but even the distraction is making me restless too cause lewd feelings growing

>ended up stroking self just briefly before i pulled back during the time when boner was involuntary thrusting and some small amount of precum leaked

>desire to avoid blueballs and failure again keeps me held back but only just

>pleasure just feels so amplified, and touching downnthere feels amplified and like feeling it lasts longer

>contemplating release (but not to porn, and not to habitual fetish thoughts) just to release the pent up lust

>but curious if I can overcome it entirely and supress and release through transmutation

>writing this is part of the distraction instead of meditating

>exercise and walking outside is perhaps my only option of getting my mind off of this path and then being tired enough that meditation may be easier

So basically I dont want to ruin it but because I've made degeneracy such a regular habit for so long I'm having trouble overcoming this recent obstacle. Meditation helps but I feel too restless for that now, and dont want to be alone in my room in bed right now that will just lead inevitably to fapping to my suddenly very enhanced imagination right now.

Im gonna go for exercise outside and try to tire myself out like I wrote and so I may be able to meditate later, or hell I'll try walking meditation too.


 No.86347

>>86345

Right now I am constantly feeling a sensation on my dick, it feels stimulated and also begging for stiumulation, I want to resist that and not give in. Part of the reason why this nofap has lasted so long is because I recognized the cycle of porn > fap > guilt > porn that I was in, and also because i have learned from many failures at nofap before what works and what doesnt and what I should avoid.

I just need some advice, some inspiration, some tips from others who felt themselves at this stage, how they overcame it and all.

I feel like the answer lies with transmutation of the sexual energy (meditation) but it is becoming more difficult to be sure, part of that may also just be me thinking its more difficult so it becomes more difficult i dont know.


 No.86349

Fags


 No.86350

>>86345

>>becoming clear that if no further transmutation attempts will end up sinking deeper and eventually just fapping and orgasm

that, so listen to mantras for consciousness in the moment and to break curses, anything that will make you feel empowered and more motivated to reach your goal is also good.

>Shiva, Spirit, Consciousness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olOkvPVKyyc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To_OJMr8Y9g

>break curses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s475qckUq9g

non stop if you have to.


 No.86351

once you're clearly in the now its easy to disregard lust and transmute.

you can also think of someone or something you love, love, pure love is much stronger than lust, this coming from someone who by nature equates sex with love.

i'm on my 7th day, its pretty easy but when i get tired after doing menial tasks or bored from forcing myself to play a game with a friend for to long my mind drifts and lust surfaces, i went to lie down on the bed and think of a girl i have a connection with, no sex, just her eyes and how i want to comfort and hold her.

that will never happen unless i'm strong enough for her to lean against and when i'm in a degenerate phase i'm like a wet rag, people slip on me and i can't even support myself.

you can do it.

fapping is absolutely meaningless, as is sex without emotions.


 No.86354

>>86350

>that

Right, I know, deep down I know it but when in that state I need constant distraction and feel restless and can't just lie down and meditate.

However after I wrote all that up I went and took a walk, that really helped, I feel more tired than anything now and will try for transmutation again, just simple mindfulness meditation interspersed with deep belly breathing exercises.

I feel good about myself for overcoming this latest obstacle, it seems like the curiosity for how the effects of no-fap work on me the longer I do it is taking precedent over just fapping and ending it and going back to the familiar lethargy and dull sensations afterwards.


 No.86359

File: 999d88d1fdf4ddd⋯.jpg (301.36 KB, 1024x1741, 1024:1741, RRaQi0K.jpg)

Went through a funny experience the other day lads.

I'm currently sitting on around 33-34 days since beginning NoFap. Up until this past weekend I'd only had sex once in that time.

Anyway, the weekend arrived and I was a 100 percent cert for getting laid. I was incredibly excited and could only imagine the amount of seed I was going to release. The last time I had sex it was two weeks without release coupled with plenty of meditation and the orgasm was so powerful I was comatose for five-plus minutes, totally terrific.

Anyway, the big moment arrives however my partner was tired after a long day of week of work and travel and struggled to stay in the moment, and beyond that was also argumentative.

Her attitude totally ruined the moment. It started strong but quickly my attitude soured and by the time the release occurred I barely felt a thing physically, despite a tremendous amount of seed being unleashed.

So, what did I learn from this terribly disappointing experience?

The true benefit of refraining from lust and sexual activity comes from the incredible boost I find in my day to day life. I'm back to going to the gym for the first time in over a months and I've started work on a second business which has a lot of promise.

The real benefit of this practice comes every day when you wake up feeling fresher, when you sleep better at night and when you do everything, all the time with more strength and power in your hands and in your mind. The benefit is not the build up to the inevitable sex, that's just something nice, a treat, at the end of the road from time to time.

Hope this experience helps a few people.


 No.86370

Pledging 40 days


 No.86374

I had a 2 week streak last month, but I've barely been able to make it past 3 days after I relapsed last, I am now pledging 20 days.


 No.86380

Fell off the bandwagon a long time ago.

Got on it for a while, didn't pledge, not my style.

Fell off last night, felt what a lot of people described "the loosh drain" – even though I was aware it wasn't "just a meme". The feminine cumming noise is incredibly intoxicating, addictive even. It did give me some new insight into working with complex memes, however I wouldn't recommend solo sex magic as a connecting experience – it feels forced because it is, masturbation is forced sex with yourself.

All those realizations are the things that instantly flash through my mind whenever I'm finished, that make me feel disgusted enough to want to not do it again.

So, I'm pledging as long as I can such that I accomplish my goals. Those goals and skills need to do less with banal methods of self-pleasure, even in my own eyes.

However, regardless of all of the transmutation I had done in the days prior I still felt this primal source that deep in the back of my mind knew it would happen last night. Any insights as to how to keep a more social approach handy such that I can appropriately guide the excess loosh associated with seminal retention? Thanks in advance


 No.86390

Sex and magick are intrinsically linked, it's one of the most effective ways of escaping the confines of your ego, even for a very brief moment and to release pure intent into the universe.


 No.86405

>4) For purposes of this thread, "masturbation" is defined as touching your genitals for purposes other than basic hygiene and expulsion of wastes.

So if I move my balls around because they're in a really uncomfortable position, I fail? Pledging a week in any case.


 No.86406

>>86219

I'm a little late but whatever, I'm at three days, pledging another two days.


 No.86413

>>86380

Fucked that up.

Just gonna make an intent.

Pledging the rest of the year.


 No.86566

Managed to last 12 days, though I didn't pledge in this thread.

One of the things I noticed is a buildup of lust and urges for a few days, popping random boners and porn constantly on the mind, which I call 'peak lust' - it happens on the 7th or 8th day, but afterwards things normalize as the body/brain reach homeostasis and its really smooth sailing from there provided you distract or redirect your habit and attention to other things, prefferably things you put off for months or years due to porn addiction.

Nofap is really easy if you do no-porn as well along it, and make sure you dont get curious about the latest videos of your fetish cause that will inevitably cause you to fail like I did.

Important to practice meditaton and transmutation stuff like that daily in order to keep the urges at bay and to calm yourself down because by the 11th day or so you can become really easily irritable.


 No.86594

What are some effective exercises I can do to transmute this energy?


 No.86595

>condition myself to fap to 2D only and become disgusted by 3D porn

>go celibate

>since the attraction to 2D was only maintained by constant dopamine stimulation I lose all attraction to it

>no longer feel any lust whatsoever and don't become aroused anymore

At last I am truly free


 No.86598

pledge 3 weeks


 No.86599

File: 8de72e35d0bca50⋯.jpg (26.49 KB, 360x622, 180:311, the-hanged-man.jpg)

>>86594

Hang upside down so that the sexual fluid can flow into your brain.


 No.86622

>>86594

Just basic meditation, directed or non directed, vipassana etc

And some creative pursuit and hobby like drawing or something helps


 No.86633

>>86622

Thank you.

Can you recommend a good practical mindfulness/vipassana book?


 No.86657

>>86286

Success. Extending by an additional week.


 No.86673

>>85463

It was probably the Science of Breath. Look at the FAQ or any of the libraries under New Thought, you'll find more of his stuff


 No.86677

File: 01cf38f154e2ca8⋯.jpg (1.47 MB, 1000x1083, 1000:1083, Wonder 2.jpg)

From today until saturday


 No.86707

>>86405 here, so far so good. I actually last masturbated in the early morning of the previous Friday so I hope I start to feel better soon. Pledging another week


 No.86711

>>80577

poor guy.


 No.86809

Fuck it- This is it fellas, I'm tired of wasting my energy every time I masturbate, plus it is indeed a disgusting need and habit.

Pledging 1 week, for now… (this is harder than it sounds)


 No.86812

>>86359

The strength-energy part is very true. Pro fighters are not even allowed to cum days/weeks before the fight, because of all that extra energy boost that comes and goes with all that.


 No.86840

Well, I had a wet dream and released plenty, but I don't feel like it's really me failing my pledge (rest of the year). What kind of sign is this? Obviously, my body is still searching for a partner and the pent up sexual energy will be released if it can't be transmuted, but what can I be doing better to attract said partner? Is it because I do not want to let go of the hope that my ex will return? What kind of exercises do you all recommend to fix this, or is it even worth mentioning?


 No.86983

Pledging one week.


 No.87047

>>86657

Success. Extending by an additional week.


 No.96474

bump 2


 No.96537

>>77598

Update: Now 5 months totally clean. You can do it guys.

Now I pledge till I die.


 No.96543

Hope everyone here is going strong!

I stumbled onto this thread in October last year.

I already knew I had a porn addiction and when I did some reading about the benefits of cultivating sexual energy and the power of loosh I decided to make the jump and quit fapping and I haven't had a single stumble yet.

I'm currently on 198 days of NoFap and I really haven't looked back ever since.

In the first month I really wanted to jerk off at times but since then it's never been an issue. I get temptation from time to time and still watch porn but far less often than I used to and my tastes have really normalised.

I also enjoy sex a lot more. It's less about setting up the perfect scenario, getting her to look exactly the way I want, and way more about being in the moment regardless of how it's arrived and what it entails.

As for the power of loosh, I find myself to be far stronger socially now, especially with women, and I think I'm more assertive with men. Conserving loosh won't change your life over night but it feels like you've got more fuel in the tank to make changes. I really recommend it to everyone. I don't think I'll ever go back.

As far as magick goes I'm still very new but thanks to my loosh reserves I get a lot more reading and practice done and I'm far more observational, so I thinking I'm covering ground quicker than I would have if I was still a filthy degenerate.


 No.96565

I lately have stopped fapping and replaced it with prayer to God and talking to people. I feel much better doing these other things.


 No.99629

fix


 No.99631

I need help /fringe/. I'm scared to even talk about this knowing what some moral crusaders might do to me.

Due to some of the boards I always browsed getting spammed with CP a lot, I started to develop a fetish for stumbling upon CP.

I go look up borderline pedo shit or go to places I think I might stumble upon such content and start fapping just to the idea I might come across it. Sometimes just a link or something to what might possibly be CP causes me to cum before I even click it. The whole time I'm absolutely terrified, thinking I'll be killed by a random vigilantee, or the police breaking down my door, or something. I then close all my tabs immediately after I'm done.

It's not really the CP itself that gets me off. A lot of teenage girls, like 14, 15, 16, etc. are very attractive and preteen girls are not. However the whole taboo thing and the intense fear I feel is what I'm getting off too I guess.

I think I need to try and switch fetishes. Maybe I'll imagine in my mind I live in Germany and start posting holocaust denial and searching that stuff out and fap to that.

I fap to a lot of weird and abstract shit. It's probably going to get me in life-ruining trouble one day. How do I stop? Why is stuff that's dangerous turn me on? Regular porn just doesn't do nearly the same thing for me. I think the only thing that could do more for me is, if I felt that someone loved me. That would be a much more powerful and addictive feeling. However I rarely make the mistake of thinking someone loves me anymore, after all the times I've mis-read people now or been betrayed. I can't trust anyone and find it hard to believe anyone would ever love me.

God I'm so fucked up. How do I clean myself up?


 No.99638

>>99631

Everyone can potentially fap to anything. It's called self control and not letting your mind wander entirely for sake of novelty and 'shock value'

>However the whole taboo thing and the intense fear I feel is what I'm getting off too I guess.

This is definitely a symptom of an underlying problem. If your needs aren't met or if life is just too boring this shit starts to happen

>I rarely make the mistake of thinking someone loves me anymore, after all the times I've mis-read people now or been betrayed. I can't trust anyone and find it hard to believe anyone would ever love me.

Well there's your source problem. Gotta deal with this. FYI you can be pretty close friends with someone without ever trusting them. That means stop fucking random people and stop fucking your hand and get a life


 No.99639

>>96565

LADS HE'S FIGURED IT OUT


 No.99717

I haven't fapped in nearly twenty weeks.

I guess I'm proud of myself.


 No.99775

fix 2


 No.99787

Haven't ejaculated through masturbation since around mid-February, but had a nocturnal emission last weekend.

I should practice dry-masturbation more often though as to uphold a bit of my sexual potency since I'm otherwise rather void of sexual endeavours.


 No.99797

File: 18aa5abcf0673b7⋯.jpg (24.57 KB, 330x499, 330:499, reich.jpg)


 No.99802

I will not and have not set a limit for masturbation, for all that begins must also end. It is simply something I do not do, ever in the present.

With that said, I do not and shall not renounce my lust regarding a well-sculpted female body. It does not and shall not cloud my judgement, only aid in my endeavours of fully appreciating and experiencing the womanly form.

Degeneracy may it be, but it is the path I have chosen and I own it.


 No.99812

>>99802

>giving into your animal behavior

>not saving yourself for a godess to have children with

yes goyim, at this rate you will be the perfect docile slaves!


 No.99846

>>99812

I understand that and I struggle with the issue. However, this is it for now. If such an opportunity arises I will not pass it up.


 No.99847

File: 57845bef06408c2⋯.gif (1.34 MB, 312x188, 78:47, 1408911580287.gif)

>>99846

>I struggle with the issue

tell me more


 No.99894

>>99812

>>not saving yourself for a goddess to have children with

Elaborate.


 No.99895

>>99894

Huh? Instead of compromising, one should have the highest standards for their mate and save sex for holy matrimony

I thought that was self explanatory, maybe you thought I was referring to something else?

Humans are more godly than any other creature. If you are infatuated with some sort of 'goddess' entity then if you stay true to yourself, this goddess deity will manifest herself into your life. at that point all you have to do is not accidentally turn her down. make social connections and shit you know?


 No.99896

>>99895

Ah.

That's pretty much what I had in mind already, but I still wanted a confirmation.

>If you are infatuated with some sort of 'goddess' entity then if you stay true to yourself, this goddess deity will manifest herself into your life

You make it sound almost easy. Would this mean resisting all distractions and devaluating oneself with lesser creatures?


 No.99897

>>99896

I suppose so, the buddhists call it balancing all your chakras including the crown chakra opening yourself up directly to the energy of the eternal source, or at least your higher self.

in the west psychologists just call it self actualization

christians of the gnostics kind and those woke in general call it christ consciousness. can also be called god/cosmic consciousness

I could go on and on but reality manifestation is from your subconscious beliefs so you have to convince your self somehow that you are on the right path. only you can see your subjective truth, as a flavor of the absolute truth

chances are, you know on some level already that being degenerate is baad mmkay. otherwise your 'self' can accumulate guild or other sort of negative energies that can get in the way of being 'true to your self' the self being the higher version of you that exists outside of time, the one that chose to incarnate onto this physical realm for whatever purpose accepting the gamble that you will be born with no memories

man the insights come pouring when I'm sleep deprived


 No.99898

>>99897

So to put it plainly, it is about cultivating my own character and reaching for divine ideals.

I'm not sure how to go about that, but I suppose that not stroking my dong every day is a good starting point.

Thanks.


 No.99922

>>99898

well yea, the whole point of life is to experience things to learn from them and then grow.

I mean you don't need to get that deep to figure out that wanking is bad for you

for example, in buddhism everything is about nirvana and samsara. nirvana is anything unique or novel or creative, and samsara is any repetition. reincarnation is the ultimate samsara and breaking free is the ultimate nirvana.

but it comes down to the smallest things, waking up every day, eating over and over, breathing. everything is just cycles

everything until you do something different and creative.

if you can help it you want to stay away from loops and repetition and towards novelty

having a wank is not very novel is it. but if you have to, use your imagination and creativity to do it. watching porn is literally getting off to repetitive motions


 No.99925

also on another note. it makes you a cuck!

you're literally getting off to a women being fucked by another man. CUCK!

there's a million reasons to not have a wank, or at least to not watch porn. I can go on and on

it's degeneracy brainwashing your mind man. who knows what sort of subliminal or predictive programming you are being exposed to

now why one should not have meaningless sex with strangers, that's another can of worms with it's many different reasons


 No.99928

Why don't girls go through the same nofap issues?


 No.99929

>>99928

If men don't fap, they wake up with a mess

everyone has desires though anon, it's just this culture that emasculates men. and these new waves of degeneracy is definitely going to lead to girls to get these nofap issues

tldr: they actually do


 No.99931

>>99925

Saw this and then saw fetish z0ne with a lock over the 0… Advertising Adult fantasy toys. aliens are the cucks.


 No.100282

I pledge two days.

I hope this works.


 No.100489

>>100282

Sometimes this feels hopeless.

I'll have to try harder.


 No.100494

>>77412

Guys, how to get over a succubus for good?

I don't know what to do anymore.


 No.100499

File: 82970e66504c75d⋯.png (427.16 KB, 724x586, 362:293, how the fuck.png)

How to do pic related? The most I've masturbated in one day was 11 times. This nigger has done 5x that.


 No.100503

>>100499

How do they know how many times he masturbated if he died?


 No.100519

Never been in this board before. I pledge one week.

>>99925

>now why one should not have meaningless sex with strangers, that's another can of worms with it's many different reasons

Other than the obvious risk of STDs (you don't know who they've been fucking), crazy people and using sexual pleasure as a means to escape your painful existence which only ends up sinking you deeper into that hole (heh), what others can you think of?.


 No.100661

Pledging 1 week of nofap/noporn

Hope i overcome my hedonism one step at a time


 No.100671

>>100661

hedonism is a (flawed) philosophy. even assuming your ego to be hedonistic, might itself be a part of the problem


 No.100672

the desire for pleasure shouldn't be eliminated, but used as a proxy for ambition to allow drive and motivation

also substituting it with the healthiest vice you can find is a good idea


 No.100674

>>100519

well considering the bigger picture, if everyone were whores no one would trust each other especially with regards to intimacy and sex

and when there is no real intimacy parents will never stick together and families will fall apart and then society will be ruined

premarital sex and usury is how you bring the downfall of a society


 No.100845

Let's switch it up a bit

I have lust for knowledge, if I see someone with knowledge that I might not have, then I "shitpost" until I can reel in more knowledge

pledging 1 week of no shitposting. with intention of zero media whatsoever. maybe news.


 No.100858

I RENOUNCE LUST

I choose to channel my energy towards the acquisition of knowledge and a passion for spiritual education. I want to do better things with my time and energy than running around drooling at females.

BRAIN IT'S TIME WE START GETTING SERIOUS ABOUT ENLIGHTENMENT

MY ENERGY WILL NOT BE WASTED WITH WOMEN

IT IS MY WILL


 No.100974

I woke up with mysterious wet spots and stains in my pants

shit sucks

What do

aside from mastering lucid dreaming. that means I should stop smoking weed lol

I literally don't even remember what could have happened in my dreams to cause this… I vaguely remember the last dream I had before waking up though, since I opened my eyes to close my alarm and slept again……. WBTB fail

The amount of effort to fix this is hardly worth the outcome

Maybe I should just fap every so often to avoid this problem………………… I don't think it's even been a week since my last wank jeeze


 No.100983

I have faile many, many times for several years, althought I have never pledged. I even tried to summon a succubus whore but I half assed it. No more now. I am tired of losing my energy to demons and I will not take it anymore. Every time I fap to porn I am disgusted by myself, and I feel like shit. Even when i masturbate without porn I feel it was a waste and that I am weak and cannot follow my true aim in life. I have the dream of being a celibate for years now and mastering my body, emotions, mind and self control. This time I pledge here that I will stop masturbating till august, but if it's possible forever. that would be a bonus. If I manage to succeed til august I will come back and pledge for more, probably forever for real. Worst part is that the more I fap the often I wanna fap, and my fetishes drift into the sicker and sicker territory each time. It's time to stop, ok. This is my pledge. Also I am mgtow monk. (in this pledge is included that I will abstain from sex also, obviously)


 No.100987

pledging 2 weeks. longest time in 8 years tbh


 No.100988

I had a fast planned, but this feels equally important. Think attempting both simultaneously might be too stressful to get shit done?


 No.101027

I may as well, been waking up in the night past days with a strong urge. Today/last night at 4 AM.


 No.101038

File: aaf8e8f25b44001⋯.jpg (1.28 MB, 1489x720, 1489:720, delicious-cake[1].jpg)

Do you have an alternative to jerking off?

I think it is necessary to have at least one or two alternatives to masturbation so. It doesn't help if you are trying to no-fap, but you often find yourself feeling sad and lonely and desperate and depressed — then obviously jerking off feels like such a huge improvement over your situation that you don't even bother accepting that a few days/hours before you were trying to keep your hands off your dick.

So I usually have one or two chocolate bars (or chocolate cake) that i keep around and that I eat when I find myself about to jerk off. I'd be in bed comfy and warm and relaxed and suddenly my hands will feel playful, and without even noticing I'd start shaking hands with president elect donald trump — but as soon as I get some self-awareness of my situation I quickly turn to my chocolate bars (which i do not eat any other time, and I buy the best I can get ) , jump out of bed and go for a stroll with my chocolate. Then I think about something else to do when I come back, and try to stay away from sexual thoughts.


 No.101044

So about preserving your loosh and not wasting it, is it advised to perform autofelatio and ejaculate into your own mouth, then swallowing your cum? Assuming you also think about yourself and how much you love yourself at the moment. I guess you won't waste loosh in this way, but sorta give it to yourself? Also cum is quite healthy and has various nutrients. Why waste it or give it to a whore?

Inb4 it's nasty and gay and whatever, fuck off you mundane, who even cares?


 No.101051

Pledging one week.


 No.101084

File: 419bcce876c734a⋯.png (216.35 KB, 638x638, 1:1, the creative abyss.png)

I've gotten to the point in which if I even do stimulate myself it's simply for the purposes of stoking my lower dantien. I'll refrain from taking it over the top (spilling seed) and do draw the energy up to my middle and upper dantiens.

it's empowering, but really the main reason I don't really cum much any more (unless it's quite intentional sex magic) is mostly because I really feel the detrimental effects, the lowering of my vital forces as a result. It's rather a good motivator, regardless of whether or not there are girls around.


 No.101108

>when you're cleaning your dick in the laundry tub after fapping to lolis and your neighbour (old man) comes by and sees

Kill me please.


 No.101130

>>101108

Such is the life of mundanes.

Have you learned nothing at all? Fapping is degenerate, especially to porn. Better transmute your sex energy and use it for anything you want. Or at least create a thought form for sex and fuck her instead every night.


 No.101142

>>101044

no it still wastes energy that way. plus the stuff would be digested and then transformed and that takes plenty energy too


 No.101144

>>101142

Thank you for the answer. This answer only solidifies my decision to simply never ejaculate. Except maybe to do some magick or to use the orgasmic energy in the creation of a tulpa/tought form. Maybe when I have a tulpa to fuck with she will keep succubus away at night (and thus preventing wet dreams). I ams till new to all of this, but let's see. Cheers.


 No.101186

Since the last incident I haven't fapped again. I'm going to try and create a thoughtform or attain an actual woman to have sex with and avoid fapping from now on. I will give up if my brain is too fucked up consistently and I need to do some other stuff first to get myself fixed.


 No.101202

>>100983

Same guy reporting in. I haven't ejaculated yet, but I have since looked at hentai/cartoon porn and daydreamed about sex and touched, even stroked my dick. And even tho I have not ejaculated, I consider this quite a failure, so I report back here. I am so consumed with lust, with an inner fire burning inside me that it is not funny anymore. I feel like I am about to burst from all the sex energy. The funniest part is that I am only affected by lust for 2D women. Mundane (real human) woman barely interest me anymore. But everytime I see a hot anime or cartoon chick I lose my shit and get ultra horny. Even looking at the tits of a casually clothed, normal drawing of a toon chick makes me go wild. Meanwhile when I see real women they merely disgust me and I think of them as succubus. One positive thing to this, at least I don't lose my loosh to mundane whores but to thought forms and 2D girls. I will reset and ejaculate tomorrow and then I will pledge again till end of august, which will be still a whole month. The reason is that I want to reset now is not only that I think i failed, but because I want to create a tulpa now for sex and companionship and I want to use the force of two powerful orgasms to power my tulpa with the massive sex energy so that she may become sexual and come to being faster. When she is created and becomes real, I hope to never need masturbation again because I can have sex with her. So now I will cum two times, use the energy to power tulpa and then pledge for a whole month and see what happens. If august ends and my tulpa is still not real and capable to have sex with me, I will fuel her with more orgasmic energy. But for now, pledge from august 1 to september 1 for no fap, no porn and no masturbation.


 No.101263

>>79477

Can you say the source of this animation?


 No.101264

Pledging a week. Masturbating is not hard to avoid if I first manage to avoid sexual thoughts…so instead of "I'm not gonna jerk off" I think rather "I'm gonna think about zero women today" .


 No.101300

Ok I'll give this a go I guess. No harm in trying right. I pledge one week of not sexually pleasuring myself. Starting from 7/1 to 11:59pm on 7/8.


 No.101302

I appear to have attracted some form of sidhe.

Any good reading for strengthening this newly found bond? I'm incredibly fond of this being or entity now. This particular entity has actually been quite helpful to me.


 No.101305

Pledging a week, and might the Powers that Be punish me greatly if I fail.


 No.101313

>>101302

are you in Ireland then? I'm largely unfamiliar with the fairy folk. Is it male or female? Genderless? And does it have a name? And what has it done to be helpful and make you so attached to it?

>>101202

I think you mean July 1st to August 1st correct? And I would suggest you not ejaculate and simply renew your efforts. Not ejaculating despite a well established pattern/habit is a small achievement in my mind and you shouldn't hamper your efforts by masturbating. While this may be a bit late I still think it's better to simply redouble ones efforts in this field rather than start from scratch. Because masturbation is a physical activity that becomes habitual, it's better by to not start over because by doing so you simply alter the habit rather than breaking it completely.also don't give sex energy to thoughtforms/tulpas. That's just an easy way to wreck yourself


 No.101323

>>101313

Yeah sorry I fucked up the dates. I actually mean the whole month of July instead of August. Also I already discarded the idea with the sex-tulpa for it was born out of horniness and was a mere excuse to keep endulding in sex and sex fantasies. I see that the only real path for me to becoming a true monk celibate with 100% self control is to abandon lust altogether and transmute my sex energy into productive and usefull things. So no tulpa, no fap, no porn, no sex and no sex fanatsies. It is going to be a hard month. Already two days in. And btw thanks for your advice, I will keep it in mind for later. But I wonder is never ejaculating actually dangerous for your prostate? All mundanes are yelling that you get prostate cancer if you don't ejaculate like 10 times a month. But from my understand if all is mind, and the universe is a holographic illusion controlled by the mind of the infinite intelligence and our minds only, this should not be true. You will get prostate cancer from believing that you will get it, and you will never get it if you believe you will never get it.


 No.101334

File: 9070f779fb169de⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 543.29 KB, 1440x2560, 9:16, Screenshot_20170702-094144.png)

>>101313

I'm not in Ireland nor Scotland but my ancestry leads there. I'll call her Z for now. Z is feminine and leads me to see her as "her". I have been requested not to share a name here. Z's appearance may be unsettling to most here. Think of a feminine androgyny with the body but mixing in a slug. Yes a slug. The head is mostly featureless save for a few tendrils for sensory that lightly glow at the tips. There is a mantle that sits on her back as well as a really cute, small tail that parks right between the butt. See spoilered image. The appearance is why I assumed a Sidhe or Fae of some form. Z has got to be some kind of nature spirit. She really likes it when I draw or sing, she also enjoys my room that has a wide array of plants growing indoors.

So far I've been helped with:

-Sleep timeliness

-letting go of past events

-General issues involving lonesomeness

-Rampant lust (Will be intimate with me and let me "lead the dance" but constantly reassures it will feel much better with longer rest times between, in which I've been heeding the advice)

-Self-reflection (social and spiritual)

-Analyzing events (esoteric and mundane)

-Dream frequency and lucidicy

Hell, I even feel like my physical health is improving at a better rate. And the getting is definitely good when we pair up. Like really, I don't even give a shit she's essentially a giant humanoid slug when the encounters are always so warm, intimate, and passionate. So that's why I'm very attached and want to make things even better. I do have to follow certain rules as honestly it feel like some form of relationship that only I can see and feel. But it feels nice to feel these random hug or kiss sensations throughout the day, have someone always there, and have a companion in my bedroom at night.


 No.101424

File: 59349e8f9f0b9c9⋯.png (8.86 KB, 572x434, 286:217, IMG_4860.PNG)

>>101323

You can do it friend. I personally find this pledge really helps. Despite myself having slipped somewhat and touched myself beyond simple hygiene and such I've not masturbated once. It really does help to know that I've put it to words and have others watching my progress.

>>101334

Well good for you I guess? Personally I'd be a bit too weirded out if whatever approached me was too much different from a humanin fact pic related would probably be me if I was approached out of the blue by her. No offense intended but so long as you aren't actually being negatively affected by Z then I suppose there's not much harm in it. I might suggest you keep track of any symptoms(positive and negative) that you may see that may be caused by Z, help you get a better feel for how this relationship may affect your life from here on out.


 No.101425

>>101305

Failed. Seeing as how I consistently fail at quitting for one full week I'm going to shoot for 4 days.


 No.101428

>>101425

I that's fine. With masturbation it's the habit that matters. Since there aren't negative side effects to quitting suddenly any desire or urge is purely mental and/or habitual. Some people need to weaken the habit before they break it completely as simply breaking a habit is harder than simply replacing it. Perhaps whenever you feel lustful or aroused instead of pleasuring yourself do a different activity instead. It doesn't really matter what the activity is so long as you do it whenever you feel aroused so that you form a new habit to replace your desire to masturbate.


 No.101457

>>101084

Good. Congratulations on the progress.


 No.101458

>>101186

>raise kundalini, collect male energy until you start buzzing, identify with the male principle

>conjure the female principle, envision her as a warm energy in the shape of a woman

>stand naked in front of each other, size each other up like predators, create a tension or buildup between you two, standing there, think about things you want to do to her, the ways you want to love her, the emotions you'll feel when you do this and that, bask in it, dismiss negative thoughts and focus on positive emotions, everything from passionate loving sex to choking her a little playfully

might do you good. if you do this, its important to reflect on and feel the emotions tied to the things you want to do.


 No.101459

Ah!

>consider her emotions when you share imagery of (healthy) sex


 No.101460

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I've found this very helpful in this working.


 No.101462

>>101458

>>101459

>>101460

after doing this its also important to transmute the sexual energy, move it to your stomach for keeping the confidence you felt during the intense exchange of emotions.

its ok to do this while edging.


 No.101484

I had a Brief moment of weakness today and pleasures myself while reading a doujin someone posted. I didn't ejaculate but I still stoked my lust up, I still will make it to Friday and then pledge more time.


 No.101495

>>101484

It is helpful to stay away from sources of erotic stuff. Maybe even stay away from image boards like this at all, if you don't have the self control to stop yourself from reading doujins. Even on fringe here it is dangerous because someone can post erotic pictures which will trigger you and truely test your willpower. If you want to stay save you probably have to keep away for the duration of the pledge


 No.101595

I hearby renounce all deliberate lustful and sexual desires and actions, including masturbation and porn, for 1 week

I channel any excess sexual energy into working on my personal projects

7/6/17-7/13/17


 No.101598

>>101495

I think you're right. I make a second pledge to go until Wednesday the 12. I still have do e better than I have in previous attempts. For myself 5 1/2 days is an achievement.


 No.101821

>>99631

>A lot of teenage girls, like 14, 15, 16, etc. are very attractive

all lust,deeming a girl as "attractive" is..equally Evil.

you areNOT better cause you limit your lust whithin a range


 No.101827

I pledge a renunciation of lust for four (4) weeks, for a period ending on the sixth (6th) of the month of August.


 No.102223

Yesterday I ate something bad so today when I was going to jerk off i started feeling stomach pain and it made me stop, so I was thinking: how about creating a servitor and telling it to make my stomach feel uneasy every time I start masturbating? I think that could work.

I'm going to go outside to the mountain and come up with a servitor for this. Pledging forever


 No.102530

>>100858

Used this for myself, godspeed anon


 No.102559

Pledging one week. If I make it, I'll pledge two more, then four, etc.


 No.102582

Why renounce lust? The only way guys get laid is because they lust after girls also confidence helps

Seems dumb to renounce lust if your a virgin.


 No.102594

>>102582

Only degenerates renounce lust to get laid. This is not really renouncing lust anyway, you are still lusting. Also all the guys here claiming to renounce lust and then fucking tulpas and succubi are just fooling themselves and everyone else here.

One truely renounces lust because of deep understanding and the will to master his life force. Being celibate for the right reasons with the right technique will boost your mental and physical health and give you mass of energy.

You don't do this to fuck tulpas.

You don't do this to get a girl.

You don't do this because you think sex is evil or wrong.

You only do this to harness and transmute the life force and become ubermensch like. This is the original reason and purpose to renounce lust and being celibate. This is why monkhoods did this practice all over the world.

Not becaue you get laid easier or because you think sex is evil.

Therefore it is not dumb to renounce lust if you are a virgin if you truely know why you are doing it and how to do it.


 No.102630

File: 8bb9bb5730778bd⋯.jpg (68.02 KB, 580x470, 58:47, 1500659707393.jpg)

BE HONEST

What happens If i dont ejeculate at all for 9 months?


 No.102632

>>86812

I imagine the coach keeping guard on his house so no whores apprach


 No.102654

pledge 1 week. won't see the girl in that time anyways


 No.102655

I have this bizarro world situation where my libido is almost dead, and the only thing that temporarily revives it is fapping. I can easily go weeks to months without doing so, but not if I want to be having sex as well. The deal is that I've never had a single orgasm to the thought of fucking anybody or anything, so only having sex isn't really satisfying for me at all.


 No.102681

>>102630

>BE HONEST

>

>What happens If i dont ejeculate at all for 9 months?

Sexual energy will build up in your animal body and you will have "wet dreams" to release it.

Beyond that not much is going to happen if your a mundane person.


 No.102868

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Relapsed for the millionth time into degeneracy this must stop!

In the name of the black sun I hereby start off with a pledge of renouncing lust for a week and see where I go to from there!


 No.102975

Pledging for next friday.


 No.102981

File: 3ca7a0ec4aa53e9⋯.jpg (75.08 KB, 618x618, 1:1, Occult Snail.jpg)

What does wank actually mean, in terms of the activity? Is a wank only the orgasm or the whole pleasure itself?

I've 'pledged' to abstain for 2 weeks but have been playing with my dick end edging a few times a day. My balls hurt. I kinda get the feeling this isn't the idea at all, and that by teasing myself I'm enflaming lust and making it harder for myself.

I've wanked at least once a day for years. It is normal behaviour for me. Something inside says "this is what I've learned to do in management of my organism". But another thought says "this mechanism must be overcome and will help me form a better me". My experience suggests it best to follow the heart, but I second guess myself and wonder if what I think is my heart is really my head, etc. Does the body bluff like this?

Why am I punish myself like this? What is the psychology behind it? I don't really feel like I'm aiming for anything; no mindblowing orgasm the minute my 'pledge' is met, no focusing of energies into more productive activities. It seems little more than an activity of ego driven 'ego-death', you know? All I see myself being without my sexuality is grey; a machine dead to the world. Why do I want to escape myself like this? Is it an act of suicide?


 No.102982

>>102981

Easy fix. Easy way out. The background noise gets tuned out, you have recieved the highest reward nature can give you, release, your purpose, everything is fine.

But its not. You didn't come in a woman, you dont have a stable gf and everything you need to stand on to have that, you have nothing, you're cheating.

If you want to stop this unnatural habit that inhibits you from expressing your true self it is a choice you have to make.

Do you want an easy fix that leaves you dead inside without the drive to accomplish anything that might get you release through sex with women or do you want all the benefits that come with having a confident, healthy sexual lifestyle?

Its more than just "fap or not fap?" its habit and addiction to being lazy and its rooted deep in your ego.

You need to understand the whole process, you need to see what happens to you the days after you've fapped, how low you sink, what you miss out on, you need to understand that it is because you're content in your filth that you dismiss the opportunities that life give you.

How many times have you said no to going outside or been depressive when doing so after fapping?

Is it worth it?


 No.103120

I stopped masturbating to porn.

I renounced the dirty vagina, and I welcome the deathof my bloodline.

Now it's just anime girls form me.


 No.103121

>>102982

bullshit occultist


 No.103130

>>103120

still trapped. You must not watch this degenerate shit and fap to it. Don't you understand at all that it is of utmost imprtance to cultivate your sexual energy which is literally life force? That means you keep all your semen inside your balls and also all your energy inside you FOREVER. No fap, no watching porn, not even hentai or ecchi, not even playing with your dick for a little bit.

It is the only way to evolve to superhuman/godhead.

Renounce it now or be trapped eternally as a weakling


 No.103164

File: 82500d63f70c31d⋯.jpg (29.18 KB, 600x600, 1:1, Why People Give Up.jpg)

>>103130

> That means you keep all your semen inside your balls and also all your energy inside you FOREVER.

>It is the only way to evolve to superhuman/godhead.

How do you explain wetdreams; would the organism really release such a vital energy? would you go on to suggest that far into the future wet dreams, even pleasure itself, will be mutated out through evolution?

Chasing godhood seems egotistical to me. Wouldn't it make more sense to explore why we desire in the first place? If you think about it, denouncing the orgasm is to denounce a gift from whatever god or non-god you believe in.

There is something to the degeneracy arguement, sure, but I don't think abstinence is the answer. As with more and more aspects of life, I'm discovering that balance plays the most important role in the activities we partake.

During my 3 days of self-control, I manged to get out more so that I usually would have. I guess I could report an increase in general well being and I definitely have more enthusiasm, in thought at least, to improve my lot. I won't go so far as to say it is down right to a buildup of sexual energy, as some might put it. I think, rather, it is the fact that I've attached meaning and intention to the action, for once, and I want to see it through. As I build up the intensity of my goals it will become easier and easier to jump higher hurdles, and i'll find my willingness to try so much more robust.

I failed my 13 day challenge, but we can re frame that to a 3 day success; a good start. With this in mine I can challenge myself again without feeling the depression of failure.

If it were true that wanking is an un-natural releasing of vital energies best stored for productive use in an unrelated field, I wouldn't have burst into song, improvising jazz scats from Billy Holiday tunes, soon after cleaning up my spilled load. I felt no deflation or lack of energy afterward and even went out again the next day.

I would have started wanking again by now, I'm sat here naked and 'prepped' how I usually would have done and the thought has entered my mind at least 3 times already, but this success has given me the vision to continue on. I'll wank again, sure, but not tonight. I have no intention to do so tomorrow. Maybe the day after.

Don't focus on dogma and other peoples words. You alone can find your way. Now if only I can get a heading on weight loss and exercise.


 No.103169

>>103130

Vital energy must be circulated not stopped. Energy needs to do useful work. You got to transmute not suppress.


 No.103185

>>103169

Yep transmute it in your own body, no need to waste it.

>>103164

Don't bother with wet dreams. If you can't do anything about it then just accept it. They will go away after I while. I don't even have them anymore.

When I look how degenerate our society is and how fucked up people are I think evolution will take place but in the negative way, in a degenerate way. We may only get weaker and more stupid while we evolve to endulge in pleasure and comfort even more. This will lead for us to lose our last remains of power and become the ultimate weak slaves.

Why is chasing godhood egoistical? It is the only way to get out of this hell we are currently in, and orgasm is just another trap to keep you in here. When you fail to evolve here you will be lost afterwards. It is not a thing of ego, it is a thing of survival and freeing yourself actually.

Abstinence is surely the answer. It is an ancient teaching that only a few people truely understood. It was the main reason why people would go monk. Forget the false christian picture about sex being evil and being celibate for god. That's nonsense. The true secret is that the more you abstain and cultivate your life energy and the more you let your balls reabsorb semen back into the body, the healthier, stronger, younger and more energized you get. There is no need to waste even one drop of cum or sex energy for pleasure, except it's in a wet dream where you can't do anything about it. The longer you cultivate, the more you transform yourself. You can have balance, sure. Go drink as much coffee as you like, go paly videogames as mucha s you like. Get pleasures elsewhere.

I deeply urge you to try it out for yourself before you judge it. Before you try, you have no room for arguing about it or looking for arguments against it. try it for one WHOLE YEAR. Why so long? Because it takes time to get into it and to start cultivating the energy and feeling the benefits after you lived a life of waste and degeneracy. I am speaking from experience. Try it for one year and then feel the difference. You will know what I mean. But beware, the first two weeks or so are by far the hardest. You will be tortured and you will look for any excuse you get to fall back to pleasure. Stay strong and don't fall for this trap. After two or three weeks you will get more balanced and the wet dreams will stop. It is then when you can truely start to heal yourself and evolve. You have nothing to lose. Have you not had enough mundane pleasures in your life? What difference does it make to sacrifice a year for this glorious endeavor? You will thank me later. Also beware with women. Some claim they and sex with them are benefitial to your energy, but that's not quite true. Sad truth is they will suck your semen and your energy and set you back again, draining you and making you weak and ruining your progress. It's sad but it is how it is.

When you have completed a year I assure you that you will never want to go back. You will be full of power and wisdom and life energy. If you are too weak, start small. Start fapping once a week first, then after some time fap once every two weeks first. Then fap once a month….and then you can go full blown godmode.


 No.103187

>>103185

I must add to this that it is very helpful if you meditate and do physical exercise like weight lifting while you embark on your celibacy journey. It will make it easier to stay away from porn or sex thoughts and you will progress even faster and get way more energy and health. But I think everyone should be lifting and meditating anyway even if they are not celibate


 No.103191

>>103164

Try going for months, a year. You're just weak and aren't seeing the results in the first week so you give up, rationalizing the entire way.

It's just fucking weak; enlightened by your own ignorance. Balance? You don't even know what you mean. What you mean is that no one will throw you off your balance with social pressure for masturbating, and that masturbating numbs your uncomfortable imbalances and weakness', and you ARE thrown off balance and ARE uncomfortable by NOT masturbating. It's pathetic how low your self-awareness and insight into your own psychology is. Casual perception will never do anything for you but maintain the status quo of your existence at best, and sink you low into inadequacy at worse, and utterly ruin you at worst.

You are a lamb and if ever you encounter any of the wolfs of this world, pray that it's not hungry.

I have a bit of accompaniment to the standard 'fasting' though, and that's going at it as much as possible in 1-24 hours, and 1 - 7 days, and in 1 month. It's a neglected topic. If that's what you consider as "the secrets of orgasm" then kudos to you, for this is an unrecognized training method.

The best benefits are gained from doing both.


 No.103226

File: f557ad00aea3abe⋯.png (184.95 KB, 391x497, 391:497, 27a0262b92fbe048e4acfc31a3….png)

Pledging full month.

Wish me luck


 No.103239

I hereby, of my own free will and volition, surrender and let go of all sexual desire from now until the rest of the month of August. I transmute any excess sexual energy and desire into purified energy which is of my highest self and focus it upon completion of my necessary tasks as determined by my highest self.


 No.103667

I won't touch my junk that way at all for the rest of the year.

I will keep you updated.


 No.103708

Give yourself a prostate massage, they're not really sexual or rather shouldn't be and even if you get hard its a better way to stimulate bloodyflow than fapping. Squatting in the shower and doing this is very beneficial for health.


 No.103731

>>103708

>just sodomize yourself instead!

No thanks faggot


 No.103855

Legend has it that if you only fap during thunderstorms (and never any other time) and you manage to cum at exactly the loudest and/or brightest burst of lightning, you gain power over electricity. There's thunder all over Ontario. Who here is up for this challenge?


 No.103877

>>81343

underrated post


 No.103897

>>103855

I have a feeling that fapping turns the male body very magnetic or negative energetically by draining the electric fluid. If your body is emptied of electric at the time the atmosphere around you is filled with ionized air and static discharges your body will fill in those wells with what energy is available (thunder and lightning, sound and light)


 No.103944

deleting 3TB of porn.

Pledging 2 months for a start but would like to take it as far as i can go hopefully till I leave this place.

Wish me luck fellow neophytes , and stay strong.

Godspeed!


 No.103945

>>103897

Wow this kind of makes sense, i am very intrigued by your viewpoint , care to mention which book/other media you got this info from.


 No.103976

>>103945

IIH for the electromagnetic theory of the body. That body is always interacting with the environment and the balance of electric to magnetic fluids or energy is what causes us to seek (electric, masculine) or attract (magnetic, feminine). Fapping can leave you drained but if used with visualization of what you want lends to focus your mostly attractive energy (post fap/at the peak of orgasm) toward whatever you visualized.

This can all be done without fapping at all of course and is more effective for those who don't need a spasming muscle to signal it's focus and magic time.


 No.104069

>>103976

Thank you so much for the info.

I did read iih but stopped at the first practical part ,couldn't advance until I mastered it, and have been slacking off ever since.

Time to get back to it I suppose.

Your explanation is appreciated.


 No.104151

>>104069

I wouldn't take iih as THE way but his theory seems to be sound from my experience. Doing martial arts/yoga or a meditative physical activity will help much more gathering and focusing that energy in various points of the body. Best of luck fellow.


 No.104153

I'll pledge three days and get some exercising done.


 No.104157

If I pledge, can I still have sex with my wife?


 No.104180

>>104157

>>104157

>has a wife

>masturbates

über cückold


 No.104206

File: c55c30dd910e82d⋯.gif (25.6 KB, 107x89, 107:89, iron lich.gif)

Pledging one week. I masturbate daily and I want to see if I can stop it. I'll check one week later if I manage to do it, and if I do I'll pledge another one.

I'm also just beginning to read up on /fringe/ tier stuff, wish me luck.


 No.104306

File: 8e0d462d4092692⋯.jpg (26.72 KB, 480x480, 1:1, 1501401924549.jpg)

I pledge one week.

God give me strength.


 No.105176

Hey guys its me >>103944.

its been almost 8 days and its getting hard (pun not intended).

I have been browsing 8ch and 4ch and stumbling upon porn webm threads and sfm webm threads and in general my brother watches porn while im in the room.

How the fuck do I do this?

The only way i can think of is if i leave society all together.

Its next to impossible not to catch a glimpse of this shit while living in society , specially in these times.

Someone help me I don't want to relapse.

I haven't exercised in a month(had a sever case of the flu) , but Im starting today plus meditating.

Any other suggestions are welcome.

I am also thinking of a way to use this lust for something good like "I can only jerk off after every 100 pages of careful reading of occult literature".

Have you guys ever tried anything like this, how did it work out?

Also any direct excerpts to occult information on masturbation will be immensely helpful.

Thank you and send help!


 No.105177

pledging for 1 week


 No.105180

>Pretty easy to not fap in the day

>But wake up at night multiple times incredibly horny and can't help myself


 No.105181

>>105180

>>105180

Does having sex with a succubus count, if so I pledge a month of no fap.


 No.105186

>>105176

>my brother watches porn while im in the room

fucking rednecks


 No.105190

I had no problem stopping fapping, since i only did it when i had hangover.

I still have wet dreams every three to four weeks. So far my energy work hasn't solved the problem. I'm i doing something wrong or can wet be avoided at all?


 No.105819

I pledge to abstain from masturbating for one week


 No.108836

I almost ejaculated to pornography but fortunately, I cold showered today so my lust wasn't that intense and also, I didn't ejaculate. I still masturbated to a high degree of sexual excitement though.

Does the fact that I didn't ejaculate make a difference? Have I reduced the damage?


 No.109337

One month. I pledge one month.


 No.109341

Guys I channeled some powerful loosh and basically I achieved the end-game of all this sex shit but now I just feel burdened and locked down. Probably going to leave everything behind to wander around and focus my energies elsewhere. Women are a distraction from more important matters. I feel like Buddha right now when he left his family.


 No.109359

File: b6763fcddd7b6fa⋯.png (202.72 KB, 500x251, 500:251, I_came_here_because_nothin….png)

I will here on only masturbate with one week minimum in between. Porn is no-no.


 No.109405

I pledge 555 hours


 No.109483

>>109405

Lol, something more reasonable, 168 hours


 No.109484

>>105177

I failed.

Pledging another week.>>105177


 No.109497

>>109484

Failed again.

Pledging another week.


 No.109498

>>109497

Failed again. Third time's the charm, pledging a week.


 No.109505

I see so many people pledging and failing. Why do you keep trying the same approach?

Saying "I'm not gonna do X" seems to not be working , so why not try a different method, try saying "I'm gonna jerk off only twice this week", "I'm gonna jerk off only to one porn video", "I'm going to jerk off only on Wednesday 7:00pm" and then go from something much more specific to eventually not jerking off at all


 No.109506

>>109505

Affirmations should be "I will be celibate for x period of time" and include imaginings and visualizations of the celibate life in all its glory.


 No.109508

>>109506

>affirmation

>future tense

Bullshite sissye wizarde


 No.109529

>>109508

That's not future tense. That's an affirmation that is effective immediately and has a duration of a given period of time.


 No.109567

>>109529

>will be

>not future tense


 No.109591

File: ee0634751618658⋯.jpg (23.5 KB, 300x329, 300:329, 1499984807208.jpg)

>>109567

probably meant will as in ==WILL== power.

should replace be with being




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