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Tipp's Fringe Bunker

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I can tell that about half of the people here are just beginning to learn magic, and about 30% are just larpers/role players, while the rest know what they're talking about. Why must Fringe be this way? Pls stop being gay and actually make this board good

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Show me the way /fringe/. I don't know anything and I have been lurking for about a year now. If you don't know what you are talking about and have no experience then don't lead me astray down the garden path.




> Learn how the original medicine men and mystics learned.

I'd prefer not to have to make the same mistakes. Better to have some guidance I think, training wheels before riding the bike. Getting hurt or doing things ineffectively is a greater risk otherwise.



Dank bracelet. You romani?




l2meditate, but then, ACTUALLY DO IT




You may observe others' magic, but if you're operating from someone else's magical system wholesale, that is, following in lockstep with them, you're going to derive only a fraction of the benefit. Creativity is the vast majority of a sorcerer's craft. Tradition is ultimately a series of prompts, and attempting to find some sort of 'solid ground' in a shifting network of mythologies quickly goes from a fool's errand to an excuse not to do magic at all.

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Riddle me this Fringe. If Christianity is so cucked by Jews then why do Jews hate Jesus.

Checkmate cryptokikes

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I shouldve said what they thought they did to Christ, they didn't actually kill him as per the quran.


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If you would know two shits about history then you would understand that kikes hate themselves too.

Every movement and religion has been corrupted by them, from hinduism to the punk music subculture, everything.

So checkmate you fucking cryptokike.


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Get off my board Methbender. You had your chance to defend me on KnowYourMeme and you went silent. This is my meme turf. Trespassing will result in getting memed on.

I also never knew you were so racist. What an interesting new fact to learn.

~Epyc Wynn



Correct. Jews pat their good little evangelical puppets on the head while spitting on the jew on a stick that the evangelicals worship.

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days straight, he was able to cast satan away from himself, and then able to heal and cast spirits out from possessed people.

His power could have come from fasting (and prayer).

Later on, in the Bible, it says that his preaching was now with Power, and he had the ability to cause huge quantities of fish to enter into fishing nets. There was a possessed man whom Jesus' disciples could not deliver (cast the negative spirit out), but Jesus himself could. The explanation he gave was that such a spirit can only be cast out by fasting and prayer. This story gives further credence to this hypothesis. It also says that his disciples will fast once he has departed (but could not while he was around due to the short amount of time he would be there).

Prior to his fast, Jesus was baptised by John the Baptist. I wonder if there was any special thing about Johns baptism, or if it is it the same as any baptism from anybody, as well as whether or not the fact that Jesus just had a baptism affect his fasting / power.

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>Every single great sorcerer has fasted for long periods of time

>Also Jesus, Moses, the Buddha

However, the Buddha later said that meditation is superior to fasting.



Muhammad pbuh also recommended fasting twice a week.



I've posted about this before but felt a need to again write about my degenerative habit of emotional eating, which although I am making progress with changing still hits back hard on occasion (this evening being one of such).

BUT even though I do succumb to the foodzombie-mindstate out of habit, triggered mainly by an anxious stress response when facing perceived difficulties (pressing responsibilities and resistance towards growth and..

Ah, these setbacks are what they are, but I will continue to set my body and mind back on track.

Will fast for two days and rebalance.



Interesting. I was able to fast a lot and otherwise eat extremely little a couple months into nofap. Couldn't before and can't now.

I wonder if there's a way to get that boost again now that I don't fap at all anymore. Starting and stopping again would be retarded and risky.



Breaks the chains? More like, breaks your bones.

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You know them.

>gmo safety

>msg caution

>fluoride caution

>vaccine safety


>healing autism, adhd, diabetes, heart disease, schizophrenia, anxiety, and other mental, and gastrointestinal and autoimmune illnesses

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>below A4=440Hz

Beside A4=432Hz, which is the tune of Nature, there is the A4=444Hz, which is the tune of Elevation and its C5=528Hz.



This so much. Academia has gone to complete shit. Some random on this board posting about how he summoned a succubus to play Quake with her has more credibility than academia these days. One of the things that's making me slowly consider that more /x/-tier stuff than I previously thought possible actually exists is watching how all the goddamn motherfuckers in academia push theories they know they have no real proof of to get funding from the fuckwits in administration, and especially how they censor. God damn, how they censor and suppress anybody who calls out their bullshit. I wish more people were posting here so we could have a real thread about this.



>high fructose corn syrup and mercury trace amounts

stop drinking soda

>fluoride in water

a marketing ploy based on fear for water filter king alex jones to make money. Buy bottled water

>saying mental illness is influenced by what we consume and/or inject

we dont even know what cause Alzheimers so to say it's correlated with food and vaccines is far fetched

>acknowledging mental illness increasing



Being gay, a tyranny, and whatever else doesnt mean you have a mental illness

>cfc bulbs and mercury

>computers/iphones and microwavelengths and cancer and neurology

Too much electronic light will fuck up your circadian rhythm. Try to get more sunlight and sit in pitch black darkness



Here's a made up bs problem you have. Here's a over priced snake oil to cure that bs problem


Too much of anything can be unhealthy but thanks to edging I have gotten a lot better. You know how viagra says you should call a hospital if your erection lasts for more than 2 hours that's called a normal morning for me


>claims to have cures to shit

>doesn't share

What's the point of this thread?


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right this is gonna be the longest shit post but if you get something out of it congrats

(2. No making threads just to ask questions, actually present substantial information if you're going to make a thread )
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I finally realized what it is I have to do and I hate it. It basically just imprinting on something. I given up on trying to define it and explain what it is. All I know is that there what I need and what I want. Some times they correlate.



literally got interpreted as "someone exactly like me" Which is stupid because thats not the point in life. To find someone exactly like you would be counter productive.



Faith in material things is foolish, idiot.



Thank you for your words of affirmation. I look forward to seeing you seeing me cruising at Mach 30 soon.


Theres a god that grants stupid wishes and it's not who you think it is.

She was actually good at what she does just remember keep it simple for best results. Her ideal form was very far from what she actually was and I helped her achieve it so it was a type of ego death. In order for the ritual to work I had to go through my own ego death. It was honestly embarrassing and I rather not go into details. But it was strange I didnt realize how much her thoughts affected me and vise versa. It's amazing how much a single thought can change you perspective of self when it comes from some one you care about. thoughts by them self dont create reality but beliefs emotional resonance and the intent can drastically "alter" somethings. The key is make it something you both want.

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>Order of the eastern star.

>Traditionally the female deity Astarte was represented by a pentagram/

>Order of the eastern star is an all female lodge.

>Astarte represented the divine feminine.

Is there a connection here? Forgive my ignorance if I'm incorrect. Also, general masonic education thread.

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The divine feminine is collectivism. The divine masculine is individualism. All of the symbols that frighten you are nothing but smokescreens to the divine contest.

Which do you prefer? The triumph of individualism before collectivism, or the other? Do you prefer security or liberty? These are the only real questions.



This is the reason masculinism is inferior, alone is not strong. This society based on forced external individualism is weakening individuals by turning them to masculinity so they can't organize themselves and form any kind of resistance or force against the current rulers. /fringe/ as a whole supports this and are for this reason NWO demiurgecucks in practice whether they want to or not.


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I find them abhorrent as I'm patriarchal af and besides rumor has it, Karla Homolka was a member, no thanks



>/fringe/ as a whole supports this

Awfully wide net you're casting there, pal. That alone would third position the balanced family position. Can't have one without the other if you're dualistic in practice.



You're awfully pompous, not surprising coming from a Freemason

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Man, we sure haven't had a Golden age in a while, huh?

'Bout time.

Share your dreams/visions of a utopian/golden world to come!

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With a golden age will come the rise of new institutions of reality-shaping outside of empiricism and the acceptance by society of the interconnectivity of things and people.




>They already are.

I knew this since elementary school without sources telling me. I just used my God given abilities to find that out. Librarian with a PHD unrelated to their job. Homeless Catholic man who had a degree in something practical, people older than me going into college, working while going to college, and staying at their jobs once they finished or go into something unrelated. I always knew it was a joke, but because of brainwashed peers, parents, etc., telling me what to do with myself growing up, I ended up wasting life insurance for over 120 credits worth of schooling and at the end of the day I have been "packing" things in a warehouse for over a decade despite my schooling. And I'm not about to suck metaphorical dick to land a job related to my studies. Never mind the fact at one point I had to stop schooling so that I could help contribute paying off a mortgage one was falling behind on despite having a well paying job. The whole system is a joke honestly. My golden age is people coming to the realization that the "economy" in general was a farce and that people have been working like slaves for paper that truly has no value. In realizing this, they stop pushing themselves and simply work for the betterment of one another. Work is good, working like a machine is not. I'd love to learn agriculture if only to grow food for myself and my local neighborhood. Maybe I should download as many books on the subject matter before governments finish raping the internet.


>>124111 (checked)

>Maybe I should download as many books on the subject matter before governments finish raping the internet.

Do it. Bonus: Back it up to a HDD and wrap it in aluminum foil to EMP proof the data.


>Cultural Christian Sharia

>Voting outlawed, except for local reps

>Guns for everyone

>90% of property publically owned, except private living quarters

>Dual citizens deported, especially those with ties to Israel

>Atheism banned

>Communal Pantheism

>Abortion outlawed

>Bedroom regulations


>Environmental protections

>Reinstate the draft

>Psychology banned

>General neutral war stance


That's all I got

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I have been trapped with my parents for a long fucking time. As a child growing up I always looked forward to the day I'd hit 18 and "be out of here" and it never happened. It's been 6 years since then and I'm still fucking stuck in this shitty situation. These people are complete subhuman that make lots of noise, are very unclean, hoard junk, etc. and my life is drastically negatively impacted. I am used as a slave by them and I can't seem to escape. I want to get the fuck away but they basically own and control me. If I were to get a car, they could just claim it. They control all my fucking money. They can take away my computer. I have never been able to gain independence from them. They can use the police to return me home. I have been planning for years to escape, I have printed out maps before, tried to find people online who'd take me in, thought about leaving on foot, or on my bike… my latest plan is to get a car though and to get away. I am afraid if I do that though, they'll just tell the police the license plate of the car, and send them to get me. If I stay here, I will continue to be abused like has been going on for years and years, and I will one day succeed in committing suicide or homicide when I snap again (which keeps happening). I can't get sleep here. I have one friend that helps me but he's an illegal. He's concerned about me and knows everything is shit here. My parents dominate my life and I am fucking miserable all the time. I don't want to stay in this rotting house and have to live with their hoarding problem.


>keep televisions on constantly and fucking loud

>never flush the fucking toilets

>don't prepare meals most of the time and leave me to starve or to subsist off of stuff like biscuits

>never let me clean up all the fucking trash they've accumulated because it's full of there stuff and they never let go of anything

>are tremendously obese and insanely lazy

I have one sibling that is functional and she left today and is never coming back. She, like me, always was planning an escape. She has all this really fucking awesome outdoors stuff and has become a park ranger out west and is goingPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Magick isn't the tool you need. You should first practice some discipline, even if it's within your own chaotic environment. I'll Jordan Peterson here you a little and suggest cleaning your own personal space and keeping it in order. Little steps first. Focus on creating reasonable plans for your future. Look into job training or entry level positions if you don't work, if you do work don't quit, you'll need to convince the government you are able to support yourself. Open a second secret bank account if you can and squirrel away money there or keep hidden cash/bitcoins.

If noise bothers you use some speakers or headphones for a white noise generator. There's apps for that.

As for your guardianship situation, I'd see about secretly contacting an adult guardianship attorney to represent you in ending your parent's guardianship. You may be able to find someone that is willing to work pro-bono or accept payment only if they win the case. If you can control your money enough to pay their retainer then you can get started immediately. If you can get independent mental health analysis along with proof of abuse to convince the court, this may be the way to go. Also look into contacting government adult protective services. Document your parents behavior, take pics of the mess and record their screaming but don't let them know your gathering proof. It might be harder this way, but it's better than disappearing and possibly becoming homeless.

Proper nutrition is very important, if you are unable to eat right see about visiting a food bank and keeping a secret stash of healthy food. Try to get some outdoors time away from the house and a little exercise, it's a good way to relieve stress.

I'll also add that it's entirely possible you could be mentally ill and in denial. Take care of your mind, think about looking for a mental health provider that is independent of your parents after you get your independence. Even if you aren't schizophrenic a lifetime of shitty abusive parents is going to leave it's mark.

Self responsibility is a hard skill to learn if you were not taught it as a child. You need to be determined and setPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


>being controlled and owned by the mundane

what does that make you? Knock it off, dumbass.



>being controlled and owned by the mundane



>register under different mundane control system



underrated post

>Learn to look at this planet as your home

Read this, almost threw up, didn't bother any further.



What do you mean they can use the police to return you home? What would happen if you explained your situation to the police? Don't you have a right to be a free individual? How did your sister escape? Is she willing to help you escape?

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I felt bad hoarding this all to myself, it's too good not to share again.

Here is a collection of books posted here before that I have reuploaded. I downloaded these when an anon shared them after he was accused of disseminating the books online so he decided to do the crime if he was going to get the time.

So here's a bunch of books from pissed off Occultists stolen by a pissed off Occultist.

There's some neat books from the Temple of Set and the Black Ship book was one he recommended. Sadly its file is broken and every file I downloaded from a torrent or online library to obtain it suffered the same fate. I'd appreciate someone sharing Black Ship by Malphas if you have it.



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I dont make everything about politics. Are you saying that left hand path and leftist politics aren't one and the same? They are cut of the same cloth in their schools of thought. They are both inherently satanic. And everything that they consider good and a thing to do is harmful to both the self and the whole.



sorry for asking but can someone make a torrent of this? I'm trying to download using Mega but it won't fucking let me download the whole thing as a zip. Tried the extension and the desktop software, nothing worked


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they aren't, the fact that you say it is inherently satanic just goes to so me you haven't actually read any of the books.



>destroy all tradition

>break all societal mores

>remove the son from the father

>and you can become your own god

Left wing politics and left hand path are synonymous. They are schools built entirely around deception and thus are inherently satanic. You saying otherwise just goes to show you are one of them.





Left hand path is about becoming an Ubermensch, not a leftist.

Mainstream leftists shill politics that are convenient for themselves, sure breaking of traditions and following anti-christian attitudes is completely up their alley, but the moment they're forced out of their comfort zone and told to walk the walk, they'll panic and run back to their safe space with their tail tucked between their legs.

I don't do left hand simply because I don't like the idea of it, but I respect it as a viable (if risky, even dangerous) path. Now would you please pull that jenova's witness pamphlet out of your ass and burn it?

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Which pseudoscience might contain some true elements?


(multiple choices allowed)

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Basically it's a community-created egregore/thoughtform/whatever. Some might call it a godform, terminology talks circles around what it actually is though. Still wouldn't engage with it though.


You're right, it's just a memename. You can find articles on it under "geoseeding", it's not classified.


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>UFOlogy with that many votes


Where the fuck else did you post this? There's no fucking way people here would vote for fucking ufology



>which might contain some true elements

All of them, to varying degrees, contain portions of the truth. None of them contain the full truth. This applies to everything, not just "pseudoscience"



>Where the fuck else did you post this?


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Here is the current recommended reading list that every neophyte is faced with when they get here:


>William W. Atkinson


>1. The Kybalion

>2. The Arcane Teachings

>3. The Arcane Formulas

>4. The Science of Breath Note: Contained within the 2013 Series Lessons book

>5. Mind Power: The Secret of Mental Magic

>6. Psychomancy

>7. Mental Influence

>8. 2013 a Series of Lessons (2014 edition sucks)

>9. Personal Power (of special importance is the Desire Power subsection of this book, which deals with how to use loosh)


>Franz Bardon


>10. Initiation Into Hermetics

>11. The Universal Master Key


>Robert Bruce


>12. Energy Work




>13. Key Concepts

>14. Reality Creation Redux

>15. Realm Dynamics - v0.2

>16. Synchronicity and Reality Manipulation.

etc… (https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html)

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You're better off swimming against such a current.




>Jew Magick

those books might not be safe to follow



Why? Who cares?



I don't want to give you my energy kike


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I did enochian and now I no longer identify as human, nor do I want to do typical human things such as "get a job". I shouldn't have to work like the cattle.

Please help me resolve this cognitive dissonance, thanks.

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I thought that was the point of training in magical practices? Seems to work for me anyway.



>evolution doesn't real

But it do though. Adapt or die.



Project much?



You can, belief requires action though.



It's hard but you can learn to do it. Hope you don't have friends, family, or a job while you're learning.

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I want to counter the malicious energies that are directed at us and the Earth. I want to target specific places and direct energy there - Leylines, Earth grid, places where extreme weather occurs, where military conflicts are occurring are the places of interest and maybe, maybe places of Satanic Ritual Sacrifice. If I have the balls.

I started a thread on halfX asking for advice and trying to convince them to coordinate a group practice thing. Ever since I did that, some bad stuff started happening to me, nothing major, just unpleasant. My left knee got "overworked" or something. Anyway as I was searching the internet for any type of Earth healing ritual magick and was finding crumbs, an idea dawned on me that perhaps this information is suppressed and then the door slammed really hard which didn't happen before or after that day. Yes the window was open but still I consider it a synchronicity. It didn't slam before or after.

I tried to invent with my own ritual (something I have no experience in) and came up with chants that could accompany the ritual / meditation.

I'm also tyring to use numerology and pick specific words to make the chant more powerful. I'm using Pythagorean / simple Gematria. I'm not even sure which system to use. Some say the Chaldean is more accurate. IDK; if there's any experienced numerologists out there please advise.


Firstly, if you pronounce these words out loud you'll find that they sound really profound and powerful. I found some really positive things about number 10, and I liked the feminine / masculine balancing aspect.

And 181. Apparently it's an angelic number with good power of manifestation.

If we look at the initials "L E E" they add up to 22, which is "the Master Builder".

LOVE THE EARTH HEART = 191 = 11 sounds a hair weaker and is more of a mouthful, but the numerology of the words is probably a bit stronger. It shouldn't be a problem if it's long, as long as it works, right? I cPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>I haven't heard of anyone suggesting anything similar.

The FW Indio Adults website once had a list of grid locations on it, high-focus areas that either had been gridded (and could stand reinforcement) or were in need of gridding, with the list serving as an open call for aide.

The list appears to have been removed from public view at bare minimum, unless it's just evadin my sight right now.


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What fucking rock have you been living under, Anon-kun?



People tend to forget in their peace and tranquility that the earth is full of violence. The best way to fix a people unwilling to repent is to devour/kill them. Could really care less about the love happy types around here, considering while they aren't showing real works worth a damn, the wicked are getting away with murder.



2 to me means a switch in polarity of an individual or situation. From good to evil and vice versa. A change if you will.



Having love, being loving, and having enemies are not mutually exclusive. Peace is a lie because the war never stops.

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I searched the catalogue and found no threads for Tantra. ITT we discuss tantric texts, rituals, deities, experiences, etc.

I recently picked up my first book on tantra, the Mahanirvana Tantra, translated by Sir John Woodroffe. Probablt the most sensational part is when it describes the vamacara (left hand path) panca-tattva (five elements) ritual in which five forbidden things; meat, fish, parched grains, alcohol and sex are used ritualistically. Each corresponds to an element and have symbolic meaning. The text does warn against the consumption of alcohol for non-ritual purposes, as well as over-consumption. The text also says it should be done between a man and his wife. This doesn't seem to stop some Aghori however. The rituals are still done by the Kaula sect. The goal of the panca-tattva is the attainment of Brahmajnan or gnosis. Thoughts?

You can read the Mahanirvana Tantra here:


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if the goal of a practice is simply to improve one’s sex life, then however spiritual-sounding it may be, it cannot be called Tantra. If, on the other hand, that goal is part of a practice in which it is consistently subordinated to the goal of complete spiritual freedom and awakening to the ultimate reality, then it can be called Tantra (if the other definitional requirements are also met)


THE KĀMA-SŪTRA has Nothing to do with Tantra. The Kāma-sūtra is part of a branch of literature called Kāma-śāstra, or the science of pleasure. Its overall goal is the maximization of sensual pleasure as a valid end in itself. By definition, it is not Tantrik, because in the Tantra, the goal of pleasure, when present, is always subordinated to the goal of final spiritual liberation, which does not figure into the Kāma-sūtra. Simply reading the original texts will immediately reveal that they belong to a completely different class of literature. Nor do any of the public erotic temple carvings seen in India (such as in Khajurāho) relate to Tantrik practice.


Only if you are interpreting that phrase very broadly indeed. If we survey the Śaiva Tantrik

literature as a whole, we will see that sex per se is virtually absent as a topic. There is one lineage

group, however, the Kaula, that teaches sensual practices and has what we might call a “sexualized”

view of the world, seeing the whole of reality as the harmonious and joyous pulsating union of

various sets of complementary opposites.

In the original Tantrik sources, we do find some techniques for working with sexual energy and

using it to activate kuṇḍalinī, but we find absolutely no physical techniques aimed at prolonging

orgasm and so on. While there is such a thing as a Tantrik sexual ritual in the Śaiva tradition, it was

taught in only one text out of many hundreds, and it is there called a secret and esoteric doctrine meant

for a very few. (It is taught much more prominently in Buddhist Tantra, however.) The Tantrik sexual

ritual was primarily a meditative exercise, not a pleasure-maximizing exercise. For more on the

difference between original Tantra and the American new-age “Tantric sex” workshops, see the

conclusion. Those workshops are about spiritualized sexuality (not necessarily a bad thing per se),

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What constitutes a vira exactly, and how does one become a vira?



Perhaps I should have posted this question here >>124022

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The other day I was talking with a friend about esoteric and spiritual stuff. He's the only IRL person I speak with about /fringe/ stuff.

He's also into kaballa and stuff too, he told me that during a regression session, he found out that he was a Jew during a rebellion against Romans and ended up getting killed (just wanted to tell you that anecdote). I don't know if to believe him or not, but he was dead serious when talking about it.

Well, long story short, we were having this discussion and he said that he felt that money was hindering his ability to progress spiritually, because he feels like he needs a master that can teach him the next steps he needs to take, however most people ask for a payment (he believes a lot in a reciprocal way of payment), so he can't take the classes he needs (he did Reiki and Tarot or some shit like that). I told him (as a joke obviously) that I could be his master and that there's plenty stuff out there on Internet. He declined and said that I lacked experience and I haven't lived enough of this life (I agree), and he used to think the same way I did, but it's not enough, there are things that only a master can teach.

So what do you think guys? Are masters always necessary or you can just teach yourself? I believe that the process is harder, but there must be a way to achieve the "enlightenment" by one's own means. However, even Siddharta Gautama himself was taught by masters when he started, hell, even Jesus is said to have traveled to India. I'm starting to believe I need to meet someone that can teach me how to progress spiritually.

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I think having a teacher can alleviate a lot of the speed bumps on the spiritual path. However, IME there is nothing more rewarding and more empowering than self-study. IMO learning the basics and then rigorously applying them can take you a long way in the field of esotericism.

If an individual does not have a teacher then they should look for one but at the same time harness all of the resources at their disposal and dive into the unknown and explore.

"There are many techniques for transmission and generation of chi but all require a master-student relationship unless you are inclined to intense self-study. Self-study is the source of unique gifts and often requires conquering your greatest fears. According to Sun Tzu, self-adventure also results in the greatest powers.

Only time will tell, but there are probably more accomplished people doing esoteric studies on their own right now than at any time in human history." Path Notes by Glenn Morris



Ops, not my worlds, but I completely agree with said poster from 2012…


Who taught the first master? Serious answer for a serious question:

Your friend is begging to be mislead. Troll him spiritually and you'll both grow from the experience.


The classic-prince-buddha did everything alone and completely with his own efforts and insights and so did other buddhas before him. And you can too. The buddha even emphasiced the importance of going your own way, creating your own things and doing the work alone.

Besides, you will not find a genuine master anyway in tbose degenerate times. Most masters, teachers and their philosophies are insult to intelligence. A real profanity.

You are on your own my friend. However you can use other teachings, books and even communication with spirits as reference points and ideas, but never believe any of those truely, always think for yourself.


Spirituality is not different to any other skill in the world. Some are born talented, some others have to work hard to develop their abilities.

Some think they know a lot, while in fact they are only walking on the shores of the magic ocean. Some have been swimming for years, some others are barely getting their feet wet.

So if you wanted to learn how to make music, would you read books about music theory? Would you find a good master to teach you, or would you try to learn on your own? I think there's no approach which works for everyone, you might be more of a leader so you learn alone , or you might be a team worker so you might benefit from other people teaching you.

In general in life it is always good to learn from other people that have had more time and experience, I don't see why it would be different when it comes to spirituality.

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