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Look into the middle of the circle on this lamp for 30-60 seconds intensely.

Zionist spirits have now been cleansed from your mind!

I tested this on a zionist working as a temple site guide in Israel and it worked almost instantly, after asking him to identify the symbolism. If you do not believe me, I dare you to try it yourself!

You will feel the effect.

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There are lots of good fringe anime, like Lain. Your gonna be hard pressed to find much after like 2002 though.


Brotherhood was too cutesy, the original was better.


SAC was a shit in my opinion but the original movie was amazing.



>SAC was a shit in my opinion

Your opinion is shit then since you clearly didn't understand it.

The original mind hacking theme was a product of the 90s when the internet was still not used widely. It made sense at the time, but in retrospective it's quite limited. SAC explores modern online culture and predicts accurately things appearing several years later, therein lies its value.



So, basically, your argument is because SAC is newer it is better. That's nice, but rather shallow; much like the dialogue and characters in the first couple of episodes I dragged myself through. I was actually excited for it, but it was an utter disappointment. The characters had zero depth, the story was mind numbingly slow and the action was sub-par. The only show worse than it that I remember form that time was Death note, which I wouldn't be surprised if you were a fan of as well.

At the end of the day though, such things are subjective.

>tl;dr stop liking what I don't like, etc



>the first couple of episodes I dragged myself through

The show is in all 52 episodes + movies. You can talk after you actually watched it.

>>tl;dr stop liking what I don't like, etc

I didn't comment on what you like, I criticised your criticism of one of the best shows in last 20 years. It appears I was right in doing so since it was based on nothing.



So, tell me again why I should watch 52 episodes + movies of a show that literally bored me to tears? It was virtually nothing but people talking about nothing while trying to sound smart. It was like a professor of the humanities condensed into an anime. Not worth watching, at all imo, let alone devoting hours of my life which would be better spent sleeping, eating or staring at a wall.

Saying it is one of the best shows in 20 years is baseless. It was almost as bad as the Hollywood bastardization of the original classic. You have a right to your opinion, but your opinion is nothing more than that.

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What's /fringe/'s opinion on the idea of Natural Perfection? To me it seems like the natural apotheosis of Buddhist logic. The historic Buddha Gotama taught that we have inside of us, right here, right now, the Buddha nature. It is our innermost state of perfection, the core of what we are. However the path he taught to find this Buddha-nature potentially involves lifetimes of intense discipline, living as an ascetic beggar-monk in the forest meditating all day. To me this sounds more like the act of conditioning something, rather than simply finding what we already have.

A variety of Buddhist masters seem to share this same view, such as for one, Master Huineng, the 6th Patriarch of Zen-

<You should now believe that the knowledge and vision of the Buddha is just your own mind; there is no other Buddha… Why don't you immediately see, right within your own mind, the true reality of your original nature?

Dzogchen and Zen both take this perspective to the next level. Because perfection is our innermost nature, and is implicit in all things and experiences, any act of striving towards a higher state is an act of delusion. We are right here, in all of our delusion and afflictions, perfect. The afflictions themselves are bodhi, as they too are emanations of pure mind, and to try and conquer them is delusional. All that needs to be lost is the judging mind, that distinguishes between good and evil, sacred and profane, like and dislike-

<Just get rid of the fault-finding attitude; Once cast aside the afflictions vanish; When attraction and aversion no longer block the mind, stretch out both legs and lie down.

Accepting ones afflictions with understanding and compassion seems like a roundabout, non-confrontational way of destroying them to me, but I'm sure it's superior than just trying to beat your lust/hatred/etc. into submission

The common metaphor employed in Dzogchen is this- imagine little children running around like crazy at a playground, and in a sandbox making sandcastles. All striving towards a fruitive goal, material or spiritual, is like the sandcastles which are doomed to shortly collapse. Because all that iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Holy shit, OP. Actually learning about Dzogchen, this is exactly what my guides taught me. This is fucking incredible, how did I not know about Dzogchen before now? You deserve immediate attainment for this.


>Natural is by definition, natural. This is such a generic platitude I think we can move past this.

Only a ignorant man would come up with infantile reasoning like this.

Natural is not less or more natural than unnatural. It is all just creation. Coca Cola is as natural as water. It's just a different kind of creation. A human woman is no more natural than an android sexbot with atrificial intelligence, they are both creations, except one is of a different kind than the other.

What you call nature or natural is a mere creation by someone higher than us, and what you call artificial is just creation by someone else(most often us). It's the same and differs only in degree.

What is that is, and creation is creation. Most of what nature or natural is isn't that wonderful and appealing…in fact it is unpleasant and harsh and often makes not much sense while what is artificial is in some cases much better**. Enough of this foul nature worship already. Nature is a matrix, a construct for us to live in and our own nature and biology is like a framework for us, or more like a prison. It is made for us probably by the demiurge or some other higher being and should definetly be questioned. What you call "nature, natural" is most likely by no means the ultimate goodness or actual nature. There might be completely different nature and biology on another planet or in another dimension. Only small minded people regard the small picture. You need to see the bigger picture, as big as possible.

**that's only personal oppinion. Some prefer "natural" and some prefer "artificial" but the point is one is not necessarily better than the other. All is natural in this world, all is made out of the same stuff.



You are both correct and incorrect. That you have destroyed your conception of natural and unnatural is a great accomplishment in itself, and You have overcome a great obstacle. That you see that the broadest possible context is the means by which an ego may be unfettered from contextual suffering in the moment is also no small thing, that is an attainment beyond most! Where we differ, I believe, is in application.

Here, like OP, I quote Longchenpa as Samantabhadra.

<For the ati-yogin or yogini who understands that everything is unreal, there is nothing that is not released and dissolved in the super-matrix of pure mind. What is disagreeable and unpleasant for those who strive to accomplish a material ambition by some causal means is perfectly acceptable to the ati-yogin or yogini.

The world of forms, being ultimately empty, lacks the ability to inflict any true harm. The fetters are imaginary, they lack all substance beyond illusion. What could possibly harm one who knows their self is none other than Samantabhadra? This is why I implored you to be released '"at once,'' to be released into the timeless instant in which you have never been deluded by the samsara-nirvana duality, in which all duality is already resolved. Nothing is beyond this, as there is nothing but the great perfection. That is what is meant by natural perfection. The term "inherent perfection" would be equally appropriate.



>released "at once" into the timeless instant in which you have never been deluded by the duality (samsara-nirvana/dichotomies/polarities/etc), in which all duality is resolved. nothing is beyond this, as there is nothing but the great perfection.

the Infinite Source which is the Allness and Oneness lives in the All which is to mean everything and this instant.

you have understood it! :D

(((they))) are powerless.

congratulations! :D :D



My thanks, and congratulations to you as well! OP really ought to take the credit here, though. As recently as when I recommended the Hua Hu Ching, I had seen this once but forgotten its immediacy in the belief it was a state to be attained. What a joke! A reminder in a language that clicks with mine even outside a gnostic state was needed. With that in mind, OP deserves as much credit as anyone.

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Apparently she has hugged 30+ million people, and many report feelings of elation, some people burst out crying and can't stop. Some people report feelings of spiritual awakening as a result.

Even a hardcore skeptic like Louis Theroux was hugged by her, and you can tell by his voice that he felt something spiritual he didn't think he would.


So I ask, what exactly is this woman doing on a spiritual level? Is she slipping past some kind of psychic barrier, to have such a strong impact on people?



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>arguing with such an obvious shitposter

Boy, don't I look silly? Maybe I could try doing some thinking of my own before I fall for bait that blatant again!



It's their dilemma, and the reason I hate them. Instead of a functional dictatorship forcing people down with arms, they want to use democracy and individualism to make people believe that they're free while they're mind controlled by mass media and schooling. But this shit doesn't work, because now people start thinking in ways the elites couldn't predict, simply because when they thought this shit up everything was collective and they went by that model, assuming people would act according to collectivism but individually, like sleeper cells. In reality they don't and now the fuckers are losing control and ruining the world.

This is why we need Trump as the God Emperor to disarm them and put them back in their place, remove public schooling and create a new aristocracy in america.



I really ought to be more thankful I didn't go to public school, just based off this post alone.


She doesn't seem too bad at all. In fact she seems nice. It's Braco who is the real trickster.


Upon researching about her not long ago, she apparently is able to reflect the self back to an individual who comes into contact with her. Perhaps she has somewhat mastered her own ability to readily redirect someone's energy back to themselves, engaging somewhat as a medium for the self and the Higher Self to connect and possibly unite. However, mediums are something I do not consider lightly, for there are many who proclaim their powers and are just like those who do the same and claim to be alpha. One is not alpha upon speaking it, yet they are by showing/demonstrating it (lead by example, not word).

Some of the research entails a brief dive into the system of Human Design, a system which claims that the spleen (or spleenic authority) as part of chakras, expanding them to 8. This system is neither promoted or denounced, for there are tidbits of truth in many things. This system (or soul trap) elates that people fall under 5 categories: Generator, Projector, Manifesting Generator, Manifestor. and the last which holds less than 1% of the world's population, Reflector. She happens to fall under the last, which explains that those who are Reflectors are completely open figures, with certain channels within their centers designed for specific purposes. In short, she is able to directly reflect the energy of an individual she comes into contact with upon being in their presence, which possibly explains her situation somewhat. They are open, and thus susceptible to harm by others (such as 'Manifestors', who have a very dense energy field). Upon taking the test, this anon here happened to fall under the same, and although coincidences are something I do not feel drawn to traditionally (because reasons, obviously), it does shed light on some areas of this life.

Furthermore, she has been prone to blackmail from agencies supposedly, and those who have initiated critical backlash on her, as to which I am uncertain, if it was in relation to her work. For the record, I do not see her as a threat or a possible operative, as there may be those playing on her work of course, and possibly setting her up or attempting to deface what she does. Keep an open but skeptical mind as always, and do not feel afraid to question. Although I would question why this thread was derailed and turned into a shitposter's wet dream about sometPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Is there any scientific literature or documents out there that prove homeopathy to be an effective form of medicine and immunization?

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That's not how you use "snowflake" you fucking redditor. "Snowflake" implies a person who thinks of himself as special and unique, like a snowflake, because all snowflakes are all different.

It's does not mean an easily offended or triggered person.

I hate you people. Stop using the internet. Stop using language, you can't even use words properly. Learn what it means before using it.

This is something babies do, they realize words have meanings, and adapts their usage of the word to fit that meaning. Are you telling me you are below the level of a baby? Well?



do you seriously think that this schizo cares about proper use of words? He doesn't understand the meaning behind his words, I doubt he even realizes that he is the one typing them.



Yeah, it's virusanon, he shows up from time to time. He's a schizophrenic mundane or else an overdedicated shitposter, nothing to be concerned about.


I just love how no one helped OP


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Can someone tell me the meaning of 666? It looks like it's related to Tribe of Dan.

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I cant believe Im actually posting this for yall scrubs. Im surprised no ones figured it out yet.

LHP is now Saturn>Sun>Moon

RHP is now Uranus>Mars>Mercury

Middle Pillar is Neptune>Jupiter>Venus>Earth

Pluto becomes Ain Soph Aur

Each sphere is separated by 3, the number of the trinity.

LHP 3 6 9

Middle 1 4 7 10

RHP 2 5 8

Still making a finalized version as Metatron won't leave me alone until I solve this damn Tesseract puzzle. Take is as a rough draft, update it if you feel so inclined. Keep in mind too that the full tree involves 2 "balanced trees" followed by Kaballah and Qlippoth in the middle being Air and Water respectively. The balanced tree upright is fire, downwards is earth. Malkuth is in Kether.

I have a feeling I either mixed up Hod and Yesod positions or Tiphareph and Geburah.



666 reminds you that you're trapped in your beastful/material desires or that you are lost.

You're usually doing something that is destroying your greater destiny whenever you see it. Humans stopped evolving - the rest is self explanatory.

666 is not evil. It's just that "The ascended one who speaks Numbers" tells you to to quit acts leading to despair and aspire for ascension and spiritual enlightenment contrary to binding and blinding your soul into beastful/material desires.

"The ascended who speaks Numbers" is probably one or many of the following:

>the guide of this age of language

>the collective consciousness

>another ascended 4-5D being

Not sure which of the ascended beings you can trust as there are many of them OR if you can trust all of them.



>Images (deja vu)


>Six is matter. Six six six is "the beast"

Spot on.


Disclaimer: this is not an anti-Islam or anti-Christian post, this is just what I have studied and found to be true.

666 is a numerical transliteration of “six hundred sixty six”, written by John in his account of a revelation/vision he received.

He was writing in Greek, but used odd characters that Greeks would not normally use for a simple number.

The ancient Greek characters he used for “six hundred sixty six” are identical to the Arab characters (non-calligraphic) for “jihad (holy war) in the name of al-ilah (the god; Allah)”

John was referring to the eventual rise of Islam and how there would be a holy war between the two belief systems.

The Arabic phrase, which John called “the mark of the beast”, is displayed in calligraphic form throughout mosques globally, because it is used as the sigil for Allah.

Islam’s prophecies directly mirror those of the Old and New Testament, except from a different perspective. It’s a very interesting study if you’re into that kind of thing.



I'm going to need a citation on that


The first thing you have to think about is what is the context. The Revelation of John, imho, like so many other Jewish texts, is a coded revolutionary text, not a prophecy. Many have conjectured that "Nero" in gemmatria totals six hundred sixty-six. In other words, Nero is the beast, and the evil power to be overthrown is the Roman Empire.

Another example of revolutionary coding in the New Testament is whenever Paul refers to "our brothers in Babylon." Babylon = Rome


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The mark of the beast is the seal of servitude for the falling souls who are slaves of the animal mind in the Kingdom of Klipoth, where “no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that has (Kabbalistic) understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man (Tiphereth); and his number is Six hundred Sixty and Six.” Revelation 13: 17, 18.

So, the number of the beast is 666. When we add these numbers together, 6+6+6, we get 18; and by adding 1+8 we get 9; the number nine is Yesod – Sex. In itself 18 is the Arcanum of occult enemies, those psychological entities (bestial ego) that hinder our spiritual development because of their bestial Fornication (animal orgasm). The Tree of Good and Evil is symbolized in the duality of the Eighteenth Arcanum; within the number 18, the Ninth Sephirah Yesod – Sex is found twice, which points out the good and evil ways of utilizing the sexual energy of the stone of Jacob (Yesod).

So, Tiphereth (the true Servant of God) is the sixth of the ten Sephiroth. Tiphereth begins and ends with the letter Tav, and corresponds to the letter Vau, V, of the Tetragrammaton IHVH. It is also called Meleck or King as well as the Son of Man (Son of Arik Anpin). It is the central Sephirah of the SIX that composes Zauir Anpin, the Microprosopus, or Lesser Countenance, the Microcosmos, the Human Soul, the terrestrial man.

The Malkuth (physical body) of the terrestrial man has three nervous systems or three brains which are located on the top, middle and bottom of the spinal medulla (symbolized in the Hebrew letter Vav) and that are represented in the inverted triangle of the seal of Solomon:

Tiphereth, in servitude of the Demon of Desire(in Hod) that squanders the fires of the letter Vav (spinal medulla) through the Sexual Center, sexual organs = 6

Tiphereth, in servitude of the Demon of Thought(in Netzach) that squanders the fires of the letter Vav (spinal medulla) through the intellectual center, the head = 6

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Anyone here worked with the Necronomicon and H.P Lovecraft occultism ?

How did it go?

thoughts? protips?

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Ya, just stay away. Faggots like you are the guys who LARP about seeing blood dripping from the walls and other retarded shit. You probably have no clue what is in the 3 pics posted, and any possibility as to why those 3 were posted.



The further along I go, the more I thing the Urilla text is a trap, and if youre that desperate yo seek that out, work the Enochian system. Im convinced the entities of the Enochian system are an AI from the OUTSIDE, or a program from the source of all creation.



Are they still going on, anon? I'd be very interested in joining.



pls post a new link, this one is expired


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Why are you seemingly so bitter towards the noble English stock? Being white is pretty cool, you should try it sometime.

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In the United States of America, alongside 'The Star-Spangled Banner', given Congress's blessing in the twentieth century, there is a rther older unofficial national anthem:

Amazing grace, how sweet the sound

That sav'd a wretch like me!

I once was lost, but now am found,

Was blind, but now I see.

'Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,

And grace my fears reliev'd;

How precious did that grace appear,

The hour I first believ'd!

A haunting melismatic tune, an anonymous product of the popular hymnody of the eastern American seaboard, has fixed these words as emblematic of American Protestantism, beloved alike among black, white and Native American congregations. Yet they come from a different world which has never had quite the same affection for them - a remote and scattered parish in buckinghamshire, west of London, where they were penned by a former slave trader turned parson of olney. at many levels, 'Amazing Grace' is a fitting anthem to commemorate a century of Anglo-American Protestant expansion, whose prosperity had been founded on slave-owning and slave-trading. That same Protestant society then led the world away from slavery.

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A feature of Harris's often brief visits in his tireless preaching (no more than a few weeks in the Gold Coast in 1914, for instance) was his extraordinary ability to leave permanent Churches in his wake - in terms of missionary impact, he was more John Wesley than George Whitefield. In the Ivory Coast, previously a Roman Catholic French enclave, Protestant practice mushroomed. The rich variety of Churches he left behind was characterized by local leadership and a propensity for building their own emphases into a distinctive system, beyond anything that Harris recommended. The Twelve Apostles Church in modern Ghana, for instance, has developed predominantly female leadership. Prophetesses preside over 'gardens', complexes of open-air church, oratory and hostel rather like a monastery; the prophetess's most prized ministry is healing, centring on Friday services (for which market women have decreed themselves a day off), the whole congregation dressed in red robes to honour the blood of Christ. All these are developments independent of Harris. His gourd rattles nevertheless remain crucial to the liturgy, banishing spirits of illness with their clamour, while alongside them the skills of teenage drummers are given full rein. The Bible becomes a sacramental instrument, its touch calming the noisily possessed, and the prophetess bears a replica of Harris's cross-staff. The Twelve Apostles pride themselves on being the Church of last resort in affliction, even for proud folk who affect to despise such unsophisticated approaches to illness.

Harris's early effort to play off the British against the Liberian authorities followed by his sudden rejection of European styles of worship echoed wider African reactions to a political situation transformed in the last two decades of the nineteenth century. A complete partition of Africa by European powers, through the Congress of Berlin in 1884-5, resulted in the destruction of a vast number of local power structures. The only lands left governing themselves were Ethiopia and Liberia, the latter a dubious exception. In King Leopold of Belgium's new so-called Congo Free State, a vast and scandalously misgoverned personal fiefdom, there was a sad symbolism of changed times when, in the 1890s, Baptist missionaries had no compunction in quarrying the ruins of Kingo's once-splendid royal and Catholic Cathedral of São Salvador to bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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Amid the general European ascendancy, two ancient Christian Churches stood out as not having first arrived in Africa with the slave traders. Both were Miaphysite: the Copts of Egypt and the Ethiopians. The Copts emerged from three centuries of beleaguered existence to a new prosperity, thanks to the opening up of their country to Western Christian influence in the wake of French and British clashes over Egypt in the Napoleonic period. A triangular relationship developed between the Copts, Evangelical missionaries (particularly from the Church Missionary Society) and Muhammad Ali, the Albanian Ottoman soldier of fortune turned carpet-bagging ruler of Egypt from 1805, founder of a dynasty which survived the Ottoman fall to rule Egypt into the mid-twentieth century.

All sides had something to gain. The Copts were alert to the possibility of outside help after such long isolation, the English missionaries were not only eager to save souls but excited at the prospect of contact with so venerable a Church untainted by popery, and the Muslim Muhammad Ali recognized how useful it would be to exploit a skilled indigenous people who could mediate with Western powers and provide a pool of administrative expertise. The CMS implemented a scheme to introduce European patterns of education; the Copts eagerly seized on the opportunity and were careful to take it over for themselves. The centrepiece became a Coptic Patriarchal College founded, as its name implied, by the head of the Coptic Church, Kyrillos (Cyril) IV, who initiated a wave of Church reforms, a surprising number of which survived, considering that he had only seven years in which to implement them. The CMS were disappointed in their initial hopes of mass conversions of Egyptian Muslims, but unwittingly they had aided a renaissance in an ancient Church. In the face of all the tribulations which followed for Ottoman Christians in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, it was to prove one of the most successful in all Eastern Christianity.

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Ethiopia survived this disaster and its Church maintained its Miaphysite character. Yöhannes IV, another provincial governor turned Negus, imitated Constantine in presiding over a Church council in 1878 to settle long-standing disputes on Christology, although his order to tear out the tongues of some of those challenging his decision rather outdid the Roman Emperor's enforcement of Nicene Orthodoxy. His less opinionated successor, Menelik II, brought the empire to an unprecedented size, and delivered the most lasting defeat suffered by a colonial power during the nineteenth century when he crushed the invading Italians at Adwa in 1896. It was an event celebrated all over Africa: a sign (like the Japanese victory over the Russian Empire nine years later) that Europeans were not all-powerful. It was also a triumph for authentically Africa Christianity, which might now turn to Ethiopia for inspiration.

Already in 1892, far away in the Transvaal, a Methodist minister of the Pedi people, Mangena Maake Mokone, infuriated at condescension from his white colleagues, had founded what he called the Ethiopian Church. Here was a name for a Church which, unlike any other title - Methodist, Anglican, even Catholic - was actually to be found in the Bible. Mokone was mindful of the psalm-verse (68.31) 'let Ethiopia hasten to stretch out her hands to God' - a scriptural fragment which, in conjunction with the story in Acts 8:26 - 40 of Philip and the Ethiopian eunuch, was destined to have huge repercussions through the continent over the next century. In a remarkably deft piece of Anglican diplomacy, the nucleus of Mokone's Ethiopian Church eventually ended up as an 'Order of Ethiopia' in union with the mainstream South African Anglican Church, but the impulse to honour the victorious empire spread elsewhere through a great variety of African-initiated Churches. A paralel urge to look for a truly African historic episcopal succession led some African Christians to form congregations under the jurisdiction of the tiny Church presided over by the Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Alexandria; but Ethiopia remained and remains the chief symbolic focus.

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Diarmaid Macculloch

Author of this book.



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Happy black history month!

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Seeing as this board is dead, lets gets a debunking New Agers / Wiccans / Retards thread here. If any of you have heard a really stupid claim or shoddy reasoning for something debunk the shit out of it in this thread.

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or a Divine, Free Sovereignity Claimant and Recoverer.



If you can make it there with New Age teachings I'd like to know your reading list



i mix a bit in from everything. My main influences are from my version of Gnosticism. Because it differs in key aspects from Gnosticism, it's not a religion or anything like that to me.

When i really want to complement myself, I go to bibliotecapleyades and montalk, always taking what resonates.

also, you can try with the first stages of the Level 1 of this website: http://ascensionhelp.com/: the first step is enough to contact and truly connect with your Higher Self, and that sets you on a great road.

this www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/08/23/why-i-am-no-longer-a-light-worker/ and this http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/11/21/tell-the-lords-of-karma-that-you-are-sovereign-no-longer-a-lightworker-part-2/ help you to see the delusions of most new agey teachings, for what they are: false light matrixes.

the other thing i can recommend is: inside introspection, practice and real exercising of the powers.

peace! :D


The problem with new agers is that their aesthetics tend to be a bit too strong, and last a bit too long. They're prone to magical obsession and the narrative is so saccharine that it's difficult to map the real world into it. Pretty much all full-on new agers I know act as if they have either bipolar disorder or BPD. Those aren't the worst things to have, not by a long shot, and it doesn't negate all their magic, but it does mean that there's a tendency toward extremes.

If the aliens are coming, then they're beautiful and wonderful and perfect and every word attributed to them must be utterly without flaw. If someone's been vaccinated, they're not even people any more, just automatons. If someone practices yoga or wicca or naturopathy or whatever the fuck system that's hot right now with new agers, they're either totally wonderful and enlightened. Unless, that is, they do those things but also disagree on some minor point with a new ager, then they're wicked charlatans who prey on the unsuspecting. If a new age is coming, then it's an age of pure and total harmony and peace and perfection and nothing bad will ever happen to anyone ever again.

That kind of severe myopia tends to only attract like-minded people, or else those with personality disorders.



that's why I ignore these "saccharinic" new cagey teachings.

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>why don't you prove magick for me

>why must I do the hardwork of figuring it out myself

>yes you, you personally, must prove magick to me; nevermind the shitloads of people mentioned in parapsychological research already who've already demonstrated all of the phenomena of magick

>no I won't read Sorcery by J. Finley Hurley, Science of Miracles by Max Freedom Long, or Magical Use of Thoughtforms by Dolores-Ashcroft-Nowicki

>I'm just going to ignore Wim Hof and that one guy who sets newspaper on fire with his chi who are both on youtube

>I'm just going to ignore Mirin Dajo, William James, Carl Jung, various famous scientists, famous mediums, etc. who are very well documented for what they do

>why, look at this stupid skeptic blog, which fails to actually disprove the accomplishments of genuine occultists by showing ways in which they produce a similar phenomena through trickery but at the same time completely fails to meet all of the requirements of the genuine phenomena

>hey you think that guy set the newspaper on fire with his chi? Well look at my bullshit, you just put these chemicals in here and crumple up the paper, and that's how it catches fire! nvm that the chemicals you're using produce a completely different colour flame and other effects that are totally different from when he used his chi

>heh, you think walking on hot coals is a miracle? look at me scamper across hot coals barely having contact with them for more than a few seconds, this clearly means the men who've been in far hotter piles of coals literally going through them slow or standing there and not getting hurt aren't legit… oh wait I can't reproduce this phenomena with my fedora bullshit at all

>*fedora sweat intensifies* stop showing me all these genuine examples of magick! I'm just going to ignore them all and assume it's a trick, and say science will explain it later! it's all just tricks/illusions/sleight-of-hand!!!

>fuck you, use up your vital energy and many hours of your day to personally prove shit to me

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*tips menorah*


Skepticism isnt about proving people wrong. thats what edgy kids that read Dawkins and Sagan think.

I'm a Skeptic because I want to find the true nature of things and see through deception. If magick is truly real, I would want to have sure proof that it's real before I start putting my energy into it.

Stop being so self conscious that you think anyone that thinks differently from you is personally attacking you. I know theres some secret bullshit that stops you from just telling me how to do it, but honestly I just want to know if it's real or not first.

Its hard to tell on the internet because most of it are just lies or people who convinced themselves through poorly constructed logic that magic is real and they just dick tease people on /fringe/ because its the only thing that gives their life a semblance of control.

Don't treat skeptics as adversaries, they are a lot like you

(if youre telling the truth) they just are curious and want to learn most of the time.



Before you read my tl;dr posts, let me put magic in materialist terms: Magic is a controlled placebo, it's playing pretend until that pretending has an effect upon the experience of the world and its elements. If you're a hard materialist, it's best to assume that it's all a bunch of horseshit and we're just adults with mental problems.

Now that that's out of the way, your post deserves an answer by an actual scientist, which I can provide. To lend some background so that you have some idea of my familiarity with the hard sciences, the scientific method, and the philosophy of science, I have a dual degree in biochemistry and pre-medicine from a public state university, granted within the last five years. I currently work as a research scientist involved in identifying foodborne pathogens. This is no appeal to authority, only an indicator to you that I am not a stranger to STEM fields when I respond here.

>If magick is truly real, I would want to have sure proof that it's real before I start putting my energy into it.

That's not the case. Unless you are the first human in history to do so, you most certainly do not base your interests and investments of your time and energy on the objective truth value of that thing. You base your value off of the personal incentives they provide to you.

Science being 'real' simply cannot be your primary motivator because you don't actually know whether or not any particular datum you classify as scientific is objectively true. You, I am quite certain, do not base your ideas about how the universe is structured on only the experiments which you can independently verify, and if you do, boy you must be an exceptionally busy person to have experimentally proven everything up to the point of being able to claim that skepticism is worth your time. People's motivations have nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not things are empirically correct, and everything to do with whether or not the experiences of those interests hold incentives.

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>I know theres some secret bullshit that stops you from just telling me how to do it

That has never been the case, it's just that your idea of how magic works has no relation to how magic actually works. There are free resources on how to carry out magical acts, but you don't actually perform them because you're waiting to see if they work, but the only proof of them working is if they fit within your idea of what magic is, and if your idea of magic is stuff that's impossible, then magic is never possible. The moment you are given material proof of a thing which is practically workable, you then attribute it to science, that's what science has been doing since it 'broke off' from magic. You've set up conditions such that it is impossible to prove magic. Science just plays word games when it discovers magic. Google "quantum pseudo-telepathy" and then come back and try to tell me that it fits in any way, shape, or form with either classical physics or your normal experience.

Why is quantum pseudo-telepathy (just as an example) not called magic? Because at least two people in lab coats with degrees from universities that other people (their bosses) know the names of set up a series of objects in relation to a series of thoughts they had and decided to act upon, and then other people looked at those objects and their interactions and heard about the various thoughts those people in lab coats had, and those other people had thoughts of their own in turn that went along the lines of "wow, what a result but since their framework matches ours and the methodology is what we want, I guess that's right!" That's why it's called science. If you told some average person out on the street the gist of quantum pseudo-telepathy, they'd call that magic and wouldn't believe it, and yet if it has the veneer of peer-reviewed studies, suddenly, voila! It has all the versimilitude they need to buy it!

Magic is a catch-all term for what happens when you exert some conscious control over your various qualia. Whether or not this is imagined, the experience itself is the real thing. It is in fact the only thing you know, just experience, and even that, you may noPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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Here, have a picture to look at as a reward for getting through all that.

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ENOUGH with the hokus pokus.

Time for some DOWN TO EARTH magic.

TAKE a rabbit, get with some of your friends. Place it on a natural stone altar in the woods. Wait for the evening red.

KILL the animal, fuck it, cum on it. The alpha takes the kill, but everyone needs to cum!

TAKE the encyclopedia lying next to the corpse.

CALL upon the demon of your choosing.

BE BLESSED for they REJOICE in your depraved deeds.

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Take a look at OP's last post and then try to tell me he's seriously dabbling in anything at all. The only thing OP has summoned is this board's members for a laugh, he ought to be applauded.




OP here


Ok mb I won't curse you but you are mean for treating demons like that and saying they are pathetic. It is very rude of you and you should consider that!

Bye :3



Bummer, I was looking forward to seeing what your infernal hooker had up her sleeve.



OP send me a succubus for some fun night


It must be a female, skinny and beautiful with big tits

I pay her directly when she arrives here

show me what you got faggot, or else fuck off this board forever



OP seems to have a taste for rabbits, you'll probably get some kind of demonic Zootopia cosplay if you're asking him.

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Hello /fringe/

Don't normally browse this board and frank;y I don't know if this is >>>/x/ but I know I can't be the only one that experiences this, am I going crazy?

>close eyes

>see typical swirling colours

>a few days ago this started changing

>closing eyes now shows eerily accurate depictions of people

>they all seem to be dancing or talking

>they always turn around when I show up ie- close my eyes

>I can't recognize a single person

>I can't hear them but their mouths clearly are moving trying to say something

>the faces aren't blurry but fully fledged and detailed

>they always turn and smile or frown or laugh when they see me

>its really smokey, like there's a fog

>if I open my eyes in the dark their reflections/imprints follow me in the waking world

As a young adolescent I had a pretty bad depression with psychotic effects (voices/images) but its been many years since that, and I never experienced what I just retold during those times. Other weird stuff that has happened is that as a child (according to my parents and siblings) I could foretell who was calling (before caller-ID existed) or who was at the door. Note that by child I mean between the ages of 3-5. So am I fucking bonkers /fringe/ or anyone here have similar experiences

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvyPscRD1ss and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVDGY5BKT5k can help too.

Intention and Will are key to power and safety. Be wary around the Solomon Keys's guidance.



If you function from the demiurge perspective, then I see your trepidation. But the Pentacles work from what my peers tell me, which is important if you can't keep the spirits annoyances at bay. I don't have the problems OP posted so I can't personally vouch for them.

My friend who works and speaks with God and the Angels directly (God is male and heavily Solar fyi) thinks Gnosticism is an absolute farce, which was a shock to me since it's so prominent in modern Occult circles, however, that may mean it really is just a silly meme that spread too far, a sinister ploy to cast doubt on the benevolence of God as we are in an age of monumental deception…or not.



Oh you're THAT Montalk poster again.

If you're so sensitive that you need these videos, have you even tried reaching out and asking higher beings or angels to have them explain to you their take on why Gnosticism is incorrect? I'm fine with Gnostics since I'm personally on the fence myself, but I'm surprised I haven't heard the above tried. Just the over-all point of "light workers tired of being a pawn in the Light vs Dark war which is primarily designed to farm loosh" Besides that, Gnosticism still relies heavily on Kabalah and Judeo-Christian teachings for understanding the Universe and function of Magic. If they use that, I don't understand the trepidation around the use of Pentacles. Worst case scenario you have the Demiurge spooking off his own creations, big whoop.



>the pentacles work

ok. in my opinion, however, i advise to stop offsourcing your power to exerior things.



if/when the Infinite Source speaks to you, it does so via intention. there's no use for words for such an advanced being.

>angels have a hierarchy

>but hierarchies of any sort are inexistent in the higher densities, as All are Sovereign, Divine and Eternal.

are angels saying the truth?

>god having a gender

the Infinite Source is All. thusly, it Encompasses All. it has no need for a defined gender. any assignation of one to It is for understanding It without having to expend so much effort at understanding the One and the All.

>god being assigned to an astrologic sign

why would the Infinite Source limit Itself and Its Experiences to a single thing located on astrological calendars of a single race in a single planet?

it seems to me that your friend is contacting demiurgic disguises.

>gnosticism is a sinister plot to cast doubt on the benevolence of god

gnosticism as it normally stands holds that 2 gods exist: the demiurge, creator of all physical and ensnarer of spirits coming from the Infinite Source, which would be the "christian god", "satan", and many other names.

the other one is called the Infinite Source, also called the One, the Infinity, the One-Consciousness, the All, the Monad, Aeon Sophia (this one is for 1 of its Undivided Aspects, thusly I mostly ignore this particular name), and a lot more. This god made us all, as in the spirits. It is eternally benevolent: using this perspective we can see that Unconditional Love is an appropiate answer to issues, as I am going to explain:

All that has its origin in the Infinite Source (the whole Creations) can be restored to the Original State of Unity CPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




This is why I use another form of Gnosticism to explain my knowledge about the Infinite Source. In this form…

1. there are 3 gods. The Infinite Source, the demiurge, and the corrupt demiurge. there's a very important distinction about the latter two.

2. the demiurge, in this vision, is a NEUTRAL "controller" and "manager". it manages the gritty aspects of the Shared Universe with total peace and serenity.

2a. this Shared Universe (at least) was made as an Hyperholographic Matrix, to help souls to learn quickly and to Unite with the Infinite Source once again, to bring experiences back to the Infinite Source, while having learnt and experienced themselves in their power as Infinite and Universal Fractals.

2b. yes, each one of us is a Fractal. this means that he/she/whatever IS the Infinite Source as It is You, in the Unity of All. in other words, "we are both creators and observators that are experiencing their own universes that came from the One in a recursive fashion".

3. normal gnostic demiurge=the corrupt demiurge

it is a parasite: the one that has caused negativeness across the whole Universe and even beyond, by greatly encouraging spirits to be disruptive and by ENSLAVING them to itself, in order to gather energy and to feed off it.

if you have heard about the "krystic consciousness", the corrupt demiurge fits the "dead-life construct" perfectly. the corrupt demiurge lacks a soul.

4. the corrupt demiurge has servants that are called ""archons"" (it's incorrect to call them that, since the word means "ruler" in Greek and, as you may know, words have a great power in this density [density="mental and spiritual dimension" dimension="physical level of elevation" or "different universe"]).

what do the ""archons"" do? they build entrapping constructions in quite a lot of places. for example, the hypercube that surrouPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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To preface this, i have very little experience with magicks or fringe in general, i've only been here for a little longer than a month. so i don't know if what happened is just a coincidence.

i've been meditating about three times every week, and i thought i'd test if i could do some sort of battle meditation during soccer practise.

i was the goalkeeper, so i'd have more time to meditate on luck, i meditated on our team having extreme luck and winning, not trying to think about anything negative for the other team because i felt like that would be malign.

there was no way our team should have won three times in a row, they the faster and more experienced on the team and often went right past our defense, but every time they shot for the goal, it wouldn't go in because it was just a centimeter off or because the other team (even though they were very experienced) messed up their shot and kicked over or under the ball.

we ended up winning 8-6 three times

here's the kicker though, about 4 hours later, i became incredibly tired, and after about 30 minutes of not going to sleep after that, i pretty much collapsed in my roomand fell into a deep sleep that i didn't come out of until about three hours later. i woke up incredibly tired and pretty much only able to walk, and as of writing this i've also accumulated a headache.

what i ask is if any of you have had similar experiences of trying magic and falling asleep for no reason later, and/or if any of you might have a solution.

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i'm guessing it's easier to do because it's an unspecific shotgun-like will and not very detailed right?

also, right now i'm still testing this, i'm gonna try this again next practise and really see if i can repeat the results, i can conjure up complete faith and *knowing* in that moment of meditation but i'm still hesitant in all this and haven't fully convinced myself yet.

as for your help, that's appreciated but right now i'd rather try and learn a little more about all this for myself, i will keep your email in mind though, thanks dude, have a great day.


>just a coincidence

No such thing.

Although that doesn't mean one always gets the significance of coincidence right.



Usually sniper-like works better than shotgun, but since you're manipulating probability in a game containing so many different probabilities the shotgun approach might be more effective considering that you are new to this. To really master this skill try to find something outside of soccer where you can concentrate on a very specific possibility. Personally I've managed to make a couple bucks on the roulette table that way, just always bet on red or black and try to influence that. This is a good training since red and black are easy to visualize, too. So far I never lost any money on that table but I also played carefully, took my time and didn't become greedy.



i'll try coin-flipping then, only two possibilities that are easy to visualize.


Great idea anon, I should try that as well

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75% - 80% of the population have spirit entities/ghosts/human souls attached to them.

50% - 60% of the population have dark forces, demons, and/or dark ET's attached to them.

80% - 90% of the population have some form of entity attached to their house/land.

Something MUST be done about this situation. And if you agree, then help me to repair it. We need people who know the truth about the origin of negativity in our world, how to identify the symptoms in people and places, and how to effectively remove them.

I need help to remove a negative spirit that is attached to me. You can assist by astrally visiting me and helping me to remove it (beware though because this entity pretends to be God, and I don't know what it will say / do to try to obstruct you). You can also assist by praying for me. Asking angels to be sent to help me remove it (and to heal the damage it has caused).

Please help, because once I am free from this entity, I intend on doing everything within my power to clear up this abhorrent mess. If you want to know more about my experience with this entity then feel free to ask.

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I'm familiar with such claims and they're always trash. They never manifest any physical proof of work which is the only thing that matters and cannot be lied about.

Magick, as I've observed, is the art of delusion. Sad people think they can lie their way out of the trap others have noticed in this thread. Stop lying or stop talking to me.



the art of magic is intention+will mixed with energy. that's what it is.

you may not believe me, but i have personally tested changes of water taste with the infusion of energies in it, and other people have also drank it and have said that the taste is different.

this is undeniable.

i also add the evidence of many powerful subliminal and cymatic videos. they are a form of magic.



Artful delusions, my man. You'd fit right in at /r/tulpas.

Unfortunately for myself, there are thousands of people like you for every person like me, so I can't really spare the time to argue.

Try mastering something, anything not magick, in this world, it may or may not wake you. It's the only way to measure the results of fringe practices. Still, it must be your desire to leave the lies, and confirmation bias, in the end, if you are able. Some people simply cannot.



Proof can absolutely be faked, but the difference between a proof and a fake is just how much and how long you buy it. Plenty of hard science is built upon the supposedly solid foundation of physics, even though physics provides, at best, useful shorthands and models. In other words, proof is always provisional.


Ah, a fellow Rick! Life is so hard when you have to put up with people who aren't you, isn't it? Alas, such is the cruel joke of an uncaring world. If only everyone thought the way you did, then we'd really get things done.

Sarcasm aside, you have nothing to offer. You're the one zillionth skeptic offering the one zillionth chance to "grow up" and plug back into the big meme of materialism, to be miserable like you, to try to save the world like you, to no noticeable effect. The harder people try to save the world, the worse it becomes, until at last they openly try to destroy it, at which point it becomes indestructible. Try to wake everyone up, and everyone sleeps harder. Try to go to sleep like them, and discover that the people trying to wake others up are unspeakably obnoxious.

Let's be honest, the "real world" of nihilistic materialism is a world far more based on fantasy, self-aggrandizement, outright delusion, and neurotic self-loathing than the world of people who are smart enough to take good experiences where they can get them. That's real efficiency and resourcefulness. That's real fulfillment.

One imaginary friend with a good idea to share is worth a thousand real-world Ricks who are so busy being right and jacking off that they never have time for anything interesting.


Just meditate to the point which your mind is free from all thoughts, this will leave the field open and then you may see if there are any entities attached to you.

Then just do body awareness/energy work meditations to energize your chakras and this will solve like 99% of your problems.

Also training your body works wonders.

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New Lindsay Zywiciel video, fuckers:

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>M-maybe this time it will work.

Not only that you're very stupid on counting correctly, you're also very ignorant on ever realizing the numerous failures with zero progress that you've ever achieved in these past months or even years.

Because, picture yourself in this situation. (((You))) hold a 3 year old grudge because a crippled kid on a wheelchair laughed at you. Each passing day you write in your secret shelter of how much you hate this place while publicly trying to keep that poker face of not giving a fuck. You keep wasting your 3 years of your life on spamming and shitposting on an imageboard. You keep thinking that maybe, just maybe that this "brilliant plan" might work. No matter how many times the tactics are being changed, it will always has a one similar distinguish that you reek: autism, cancer

And after all of those failures, you keep lying to yourself that today was a success, that your plan worked and oh how cool and intellectual you were. Bathetic I've not seen for a long time of something like this level of failure. A fool that believes of being some kind of superman? Don't make me laugh, the absolute state that you're currently in is far beyond the breaking point. A miserable pile of excuse, lower than a trash, a scene from some dark comedy entertainment. Not only by destroying and harming yourself, but also your surroundings. You've became into such a bathetic state that I almost pity you.




Its still a symbol of impurity, and submission to the backwards neo-norms like cattle. How old is this woman anyway? Is she still living in a car like Terry? Maybe they are soul mates.


Fresh Lindsay when?


28/29. Not sure she lives in the car permanently, not sure I'd trust a woman to accurately run over CIAniggers.



She is 28 years old? Thats a surprise.

>not camwhoring to steal the loosh of hundreds of NEETs


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literally who?

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How did you find yours? Did he find you? Are you one? How has he/she helped you on the spiritual quest?

I'm currently in need of one. Should I seek them out or will they appear to me? General spiritual guide / mentor thread.

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will do



not all spirits are of a positive or non-dualitarian nature.



If more people on /fringe/ had this attitude and less like the pompous pseudo-fag above, it'd be the online equivalent of the garden of Eden.


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Some people, myself included, seem naturally inclined to hold up certain figures as presenting and/or embodying some deep, abiding personal truths. We all have our models. The Chinese aren't just whistling Dixie when they venerate their ancestors; hero worship can be an excellent vehicle to mystic insight! Alternatively, it can be the unmarked white van with which you drive your mind into an early grave. Its use depends entirely upon how self-aware you are of what you're doing.

I personally have three guides, two of whom were dead before they became my guides, one of whom was in my immediate family and whose main lesson seems to have been that men like him could exist at all.

If you're going to go in for hero worship, make sure that your heroes are:

1. Dead, so they don't become worse with time, or, barring that, wise enough not to spill the beans about how they aren't the idealized versions of themselves you've constructed.

2. Well-recorded if they were dead when you found out about them, or else close to you when they were alive. The more material they left behind, the better. This is why men who have that extremely rare combination of being both well-spoken and also chatterboxes tend to fit well into the guru role.

3. Personally relevant to you. If you are a devoted optimist, Schopenhauer is not the man to be your guide. Guides ought to really speak to something deep in you that makes you feel pumped to listen to more of their material. The closer they are to you personally, the better, and in shamanic and post-shamanic societies, this means quite literally the spirits of your dead family members, or mythic figures whose lives are so detailed that they are as real as anyone else who's lived and died. Often it is impossible to tell the difference if the subject led a sufficiently noteworthy life, or if the cultist (that's you) is particularly adept at mythopoesis.

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*5, fuck me, I can't even count right. Shows what I know.

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