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A strange thought has popped into my head after doing a scheduled meditation. "What's the Point of Becoming a God" or a "creator essence" of your own reality? Essentially, you would be able to make anything your heart wished but at the same time would you be able to go and experience the joys and wonders you create? Would you be locked to sitting in your respective zone of existence and simply monitor and observe everything for all eternity or would you be able to actually involve yourself with your creations?

I hate to sound bleak but if I would be limited to simple creation only without being able to hop into the worlds I make I'd rather stay at a lower level of existence. I mean, it would get dull and distant the longer you'd exist. Eventually you would have nothing to call your own save for the energy to bring forth. Am I alone in this thought process or would some people enjoy just being a cohesion of processing energy to draw forth creation?

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>but at the same time would you be able to go and experience the joys and wonders you create?

Yes, if you want.

>Would you be locked to sitting in your respective zone of existence and simply monitor and observe everything for all eternity

Only if that's the way you want it to be.

You are not really grasping the concept of a god. What you're proposing is that you are some shut-away demiurge constantly shitting out matter that he then jettisons while sitting there desiring all the things he jettisons from himself. If that's your idea of a god, then the basic terms of this question are premised on a fundamental misunderstanding of creation and the act thereof. To create a thing which you love, out of love for the thing created, is to enjoy it in the way that a parent loves a child. To understand that it is ALL your children and that even so-called 'destruction' is just change and that is your nature and also your eternal moment of victory, that is godhood, immanent and direct, and it is also perfect enjoyment.

To be a god would not involve being without pain, but it would involve being without the delusion that pain or grief or any of these things are bad or in some way say something true about your eternal state. You would enjoy them in the way that someone enjoys a good movie or a video game on hard. Plenty of people can't stop sucking Dark Souls' dick even though that whole series is 99% losing. You must follow the Dwarf Fortress model; losing is fun, pain IS pleasure, not enjoying IS enjoying, you must learn to enjoy not enjoying for its own qualities.

Basically the question itself is wrong.



This is the only thing that makes sense to me after going through so much new age hippy garbage.


"wow there is this thing that makes me feel good all the time that I need money for "

Jewkike: yes! Consent to slavery! Do my work for me and every once in awhile I'll free you from prison for a few minutes or a few seconds if you are ejaculating!

Nah fuck that. Heil fucking Hitler gas the kikes race war now Satan is amazing and im destroying earth with a meteor shower so mother earth is clean for the first time since human bacteria came into existence


Daily reminder that earth has consciousness and humans are a parasite. Kill your human self and merge with Earth or you will never exist as anything.



(((they))) want you to kill your ego.

liberal globalist democrat marxist communist zionist jews want to be the only ones with ego while they convince everyone to kill their own ego so they can rule everyone who is left as husks.

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Note: Recreating this here for the people that have missed it, and for the new people that come here every day.

fringechan – http://fringechan.org

What is fringechan?

fringechan was revived/recreated as a new base for the users of 8chan.net/fringe at January 2016. Initially, the reasons were of a technical nature, as 8chan was plagued by a myriad of bugs and we wanted to provide fringe a worthy place to call to home. Now even most of the bugs have been dissolved, other parts of the 8chan ship are starting to falter, as its currently owned by a for-profit, non-free organization with glaring ties to freemasonry and obvious kikery. As most of you know, hotwheels has been demoted and is not the owner of 8chan anymore.

What is the current state of fringechan?

http://fringechan.org/ has been operational for almost half a year now and continues to grow. As it stands currently there are more daily posts on http://fringechan.org/ then on 8/fringe.

With the recent purge of all the data of 8/fringe and the current state of Fringe Wizard, 8/fringe's BO, its no more but to expected that we find a stable, new platform to call home.

What are the benefits of fringechan?

Benefits are plenty:

- Multiple boards to separate discussion to their appropriate categories, some of them (besides /fringe/):

- http://fringechan.org/library/: The board to keep track of all books and their discussion.

- http://fringechan.org/loosh/: For randoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.(Rule 1)

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>Fringechan still lives in our memories…

And now again is the full archive is accessible via fringebay. Every thread ever posted, complete with top notch reference threads



And an extensive and very help questions threads with grade A effort posting. Remember control+F is your friend.


And if y'all need to post there is live board as well.




awesome. wish the pics were able to be full size but there's still plenty of info


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Merry Keksmas, fringechan.



Tipp pls

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The truth about religion, God, and exposing the false religion of the satanic globalist cucks

(Finally got a chance to make a thread for this, which I'm sure will make the /fringe/ BO and mods really happy. Thanks for being so friendly and understanding. I will be happy to cooperate with your needs so that we are all happy.)

on another related note the mewch thread 404'd mysteriously for no obvious reason so I just finished remaking it and decided that now was a good moment to finally make this one too. here's a link in case anyone cares about that.


trigger warning. you may be triggered. this pisses off atheists and religious fanatics alike.

you know you're doing something right when absolutely every single last person in the world gets pissed off at you, because it is no measure of good health to conform to an ill society. all sorts of stuff aside, lets look at the facts here. the image is meant to deconstruct the lies you have been led to believe for thousands of years. in all belief there sits a beLIEf. to simply only have faith and to only just simply have belief is to lie to God and to lie to yourself. instead you must know. KNOW GOD. do not believe. KNOW.

the rest of the text posted is for you to KNOW the truth.

This thread is the most recent and updated version as of XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX . (if you even beLIEve in time)

Please good people, if you know things that I don't know, please inform me so that the truth may be perceived from a better perspective than what I currently have.

>know about a good book?

tell me about it

>have some knowledge or wisdom?

help me learn

please don't leave me in the dark. I want to bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>Good image full of worthwhile information

With your very first sentence you're violating the essential principle of satya. It's good that you're attempting to steer him in a correct direction through politeness, but there's no need to open these good intentions with a false statement.

The OP image was glued together in MS Paint and resembles a big mass of schizophrenic dabbling.

The only reason I'm popping in here now is because I told the OP I would do so about 8 months ago, and here I am.

However despite his misconceptions and schizo rambling, it sounds like he's going in the correct direction on his own though, with his post of >>120570 . It's just hard to feel devotion to and approach the nameless, formless grounding of reality (Brahman) directly, which is why the majority of human beings practice idolatry and the worship of Istadevas- ie Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, the Bible, etc.

Abhinavagupta in his commentary on the Bhagavad Gita says that those who worship Brahman directly have to work twice as hard as those who use an Istadeva.


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i found some of the information useful. i shouldn't have said 'full of worthwhile information' though.

>nameless, formless grounding of reality (Brahman)

actually Brahman is just the cosmic effulgence or rays emanating from the body of Lord Sri Krishna. It can be compared to the sunshine coming off the sun. Merging into Brahman is an inferior form of liberation. The best way to escape the matrix (this material universe) is to worship the personal form of the Lord directly in transcendental devotional service.

Mayavadis (impersonalists) are unaware of the superior personal form of the Lord and thus strive to merge into Brahmanic bliss but later fall down back to this material world because they have yet to conquer their minds and senses. (lecture by Srila Prabhupada on the topic - https://vaniquotes.org/wiki/Eternally_individual,_so_how_do_the_impersonalists_attaining_their_goal_merge_into_the_impersonal_brahmajyoti%3F )



>avoid things you know are bad for you and try to expose yourself to things you know are healthy.

This is wrong. You should expose yourself to bad shit in order to build up a tolerance to it.



The connection among all the world's religions is partly what inspired me to look into religion & spirituality in the first place. It's hard for me to empathize with the perception that hidden wisdom is somehow bad or evil. Sons of Set, I suppose.



only works for some things, we aren't perfect.

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i'm just an bold ignorant but before i begin my journey with this topic, i need to know

what is magic (and different types of magic) used for?

can they make IRL changes like making me taller (i'm not going to do this, is just an example) or just psychological and "out of this world" experiences?

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I've been experimenting with putting a glass bottle with saline &

sugar inside as well as a magnet & putting the bottle on my speaker

then pouring the water into the sink,

my effort is to affect the weather like the 10 plagues of Egypt, so far

it's been warmer this winter with no ice, still cold enough to wear

a coat, I pour the solution down the sink maybe twenty times a day

to really try to bang the nail in,

we'll see what this winter holds,

in the bible Elisha asked an Israeli leader to hit some arrows on the

ground, Israel only had so many victories in battle at that time as

many times the guy hit the arrows on the ground,



>what is magic

Reality manipulation, usually, if you're smart, through the manipulation of probabilities.

>can they make IRL changes

Theoretically yes, but it's a stupid idea to do so. Magic works through the subconscious. The people actively doing it just train their subconscious to be better at manipulating reality, but that doesn't mean that others don't do it naturally to a smaller extent.

That means that if you want to change something that is observed by others, you're actively fighting against their subconscious when manifesting it.

Probabilities meanwhile are not consciously observed and therefore are a lot easier to manipulate, meaning bigger effects for less effort (Look at Dee and the Spanish Armada for an example of this).

It's also usually better to do magic for results and let the universe pick the means, because it's not unlikely that the means you picked will not necessarily lead to the result you hoped for.



I assume that in order to activate your ability to manipulate the subconscious mind, that it would be advisable to practice cultivating thoughtforms, and fuck around with le meme magic. Then again, I'm a fringe newfig. Am I wrong?


Yes. Memes are not magic in the sense that satisfies me. Meme nearly has the same meaning as the word fad or trend. It's just a popular concept that circulates.

But magic lies elsewhere. True magic, I mean. In fact, these idiots even here are playing middleschool witch with their feeble attempts at weather manipulation.


And that cause must be the rightful cause. Not some made up bullshit. You can have your weather manipulation, but you can't get it for free. I'm not about to quote Full Metal Alchemist or Captain Planet, but if weather is to be changed, you must actually change it. You need to get a lot of water really high in the sky if you want it to come down as rain.

Hopes and dreams ain't gonna cut it, kid.


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Sorcery is simply the manipulation of conditions to produce a desired outcome. It only appears as "magic" from the perspective of lesser sentience. The sorcerer cannot consciously cast a spell without understanding it, thus causing the "spell" to lose its "magical" allure. In the same way that a dude (higher sentience) driving a car seems like sorcery to a child or a retard or a caveman (lower sentience), a sorcerer (even higher sentience) interfering with reality would seem like sorcery to a normalfaggot or dumb goy or filthy mundane like you (even lower sentience than the average child with Downs Syndrome these days). The reason you don't see sorcerers shooting Thunderbolts out of their hands is threefold:

1. Physical law: the energy required for such a thing makes such a "spell" retarded; there's no way to create motion – only ways to transmute and alter it. (See Isaac Newton).

2. Rarity of Sorcerous Ability: sorcerers are unusual. Sorcerers that are capable of shooting thunderbolts are even rarer. Which leads us to,

3. Why?: Once a sorcerer has attained the ability to shoot thunderbolts, he will have an understanding of reality that will make him one of the more powerful entities in the solar system. Shooting thunderbolts is childish and mundane. Someone who could do this would be one of the greatest men in history – but it would also be likely that he wouldn't reveal himself or his abilities to normalfaggots. Normalfaggots would misuse the knowledge even if they could understand it. Remember: the names of the greatest buddhas will never be known.

My point here is that once you start down this path, you realize that the "spells" that you want to cast are much more subtle and much more important than the flashy Harry Potter spells that initiates fantasize about. My other point is that "spells" don't exist – it's all an illusion caused by disparity in understanding and wisdom.


lurk (and contemplate and brood on reality) moar

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I have a hypothesis.

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lel. Thanks anon

I've been doing some searching on /occult/ as well, and found this neat pdf. I have no clue if it will work or not, but I can't see why it's not worth the try



If you have a waifu in any aspect (here's looking at you, succubus posters), then it's a clear indication you're not mentally stable. Even watching anime throws many a victim into weeaboo purgatory…an unforgivable degeneracy.

Stop making up imaginary women to mentally and physically masturbate over. In any case, accept that you have failed sexually, and are undesirable to any female. Commit to celibacy and live a fulfilling life, or clean yourself up and seek a REAL wife.

This thread is… Pathetic.

~The Punished Druid


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I don't worship waifus for I think worshipping anything is degenerate and weak but there is nothing wrong with normally just having normal waifus. It's better than dealing with 3dpd women at least. Either go complete celibate or fap to waifu but dont worship like a cuck. Hell you can even have a harem of waifus and be fine as long as they worship you instead of you them



>uses a signature on an image board

>this thread is pathetic

You need to go.


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the common "I have the demiurges cock in my mouth at all times" reply

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If you want to astral project then imagine yourself outside of your body. That is all that is required. This immediately places your awareness within a thoughtform on the mental planes. All the various techniques of astral projection that are described are just different ways to imagine this. You can sit down tonight and think up hundreds of different ways to imagine this and carry it out yourself, you don't need to go around asking people to give you examples like the rope technique and so on.

>but no it can't be that simple

It is that simple. There is no need to over-complicate this.

>but I can't imagine for shit

Then you need to develop your imagination. Make use of all the senses and imagine different things. Create thoughtforms and pay attention to how your emotions, intent, and beliefs change how these thoughtforms can operate. Use thoughtforms for EVERYTHING.

>but I want to remote view or remote influence people/places/situations in this world and timeline

Then you need to imagine that. Do this through the intention to be out of your body and viewing something within a given time and place. If your intention is to prove astral projection doesn't real or if you are plagued by doubts and negative emotions which make you feel it can't be done, you need to get over that.

>but I have no faith and I'm a cynical skeptic

Practice raja yoga and discover your real self and the powers of that real self. Seek out experiences that will prove to you the reality of perception of distant scenes and related occult phenomena. Study idealist philosophy and seek logical proofs and metaphysical explanations that make the reality of astral projection easy for you to accept. Convince all aspects of your mind from the intellect to the gut-feeling to the emotional and so on of the reality of what you can do when you put your will to it.

>bullshit occultist! bullshit occuPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Once you experience it, you know. It’s like night and day.



Okay anon {•~•}


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Basically this:>>126130

You'll know. When you daydream you know you have been daydreaming and when you are in your normal "real" waking state you know that you are normally awake and in reality. It's obvious. It's just as obvious when you finally manage to AP for real, it will be absolutely nothing like daydreaming or fantasy/imagination. It will be real…and not merely real, it will be even more real than your normal waking experience in reality. To give an example: Daydreaming is a glitchy nonsensical fuckfest in 480p, your normal wake experience in reality is 1080p 60fps experience and AP is glorious 4k 120fps experience. Your mind will be blown, you will know. It's more real than "real".

When you are in trance you should aim to remove your mind/awareness from your body completely. Thee are some techniques like climbing with a rope out of your body, rolling out of your body or imagining yourself in a thoughtform body outside or your physical body. The only purpose of those techniques is is make you forget your physical body completely. Don't move it, don't feel it, don't even focus and unfocus your eyes behind your closed eyelids. Don't focus on tinglings in your feet or stuff like that. You can get only out of body when your awareness is completely removed from it. That's why all those techniques are there, to distract you from your body and make you completely forget about it. The more details you imagine outside of your body, the more senses you engage outside of your body, the easier it will be to completely forget your physical body and free yourself from it.



Thanks for the insight. Would one be able to interact with the outside world while AP?


I must be having so much trouble with AP because I have never done it in a past life. New skills are hardcore.

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She has been nudging me. She wants this to spread. Since her appearance earlier this year, her power and influence has grown exponentially. Right now it's impossible to predict how much she can do.

She did appear as a result of a rather mediocre ambition; to save some time and let the magic spread automatically. What does "automatic" really mean? A machine must be powered by something, a force of nature. Be this a burning fuel, water flowing in a stream, or nuclear power. It all comes from nature anyway. What power comes from nature and takes on a humanoid form in its interaction with humans, will be known as an elemental.

Alissa brings immortality, she can only be called THE element of immortality. She is the only one today.

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Wew lad, you almost make it sound as if in comparison other fringe anons here who did not partake in the spell are somehow mentally sound and not crazy…

How about you share your own definition of what is mentally sound and what not? I always love hearing other peoples oppinions, especially on fringe.


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You just want opinions that you can lash out against and insult. Isn't your 2 day binge drinking shitposting spree over? Here's your (you) again, faggot.

Pic related. It's (you), kid.

~The Faggot LARPer Druid.



His energy signature was definetly something else. Very strong but not only that, there was something more to it that I can't even describe. Maybe I am just not used to encountering such advanced/powerful signatures around here.

Judging from this I agree that he would be a good magic caster.


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(sorry for double post)


You could have at least tried harder and post one of those pics instead (or both). They do me better justice.



Fuck, that was me before I discovered the reality of magic. Literally the first one, and I was 27, too.

I miss Blood Anon-chan btw.

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I have been helping people all my life. I listened to what they have to say, I gave them advice, provided them help but most importantly I gave them hope. In the process I neglected myself. I spent awful lot of time and energy listening to what others have to say. It was not worth it since those people never improved.

No one ever has any interest in what I have to say though, not even myself. But now I realized how much I neglected myself, and I want to forgive myself for it, but how can do that? It's a super strange feeling, I just realized this last night. The picture I posted depicts how I feel. I am incomplete because I gave away everything I had, I always felt worthless so I helped others instead. Sorry if this is offtopic or something but I don't know where else could I post it. I have no one to talk to. You see I was always there for everyone but when I need help I never get any, not even a conversation. I was always a listener but I no longer want to be just a fucking thrashcan where people throw all their problems then move on.

Dear fringe, can you give me some advice or just discuss it? How can I make up for all those wasted years?

Lesson I learned: people are fucking stupid, help only your close friends/family

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>Offline indie and oldschool games my friend. No need to waste time with the same online crap and subject yourself to the braindead hordes.


>I'm just happy I've never been such a low-level waste like you.

How lucky you are. It seems like I didn't have that luck to be spared of this fate


I see you are on a mission to make this board a better place. What a herculean task…but go ahead. I wish you good luck.



Well, if mine is a hurculean task, then what are YOUR intentions here? If you don't desire to acquisition of knowledge, and to hold civil discussions with those who deserve it, for there are many deserving people on this board, then I suggest you take your sour attitude elsewhere and go feed the Demiurge your loosh from the corner of your room… Alone.

I do have a feeling of where your coming from, though. Have you been here for awhile and are fed up with a lot of the nonsense? I can see why someone would lash out everywhere if most of everything posted here (these days) is all autistic trash.



You forgot to add "~The cuckold larper" at the bottom of your post. Just tought I'd remind you. What the fuck is this anyway, some sort of impersonation of epyc wynns aborted bastard child?

>then what are YOUR intentions here?

I come out once every few months and drunk shitpost for 1-2 days, then I'm out again. This time I saw this pathetic thread that would be better off just posted as a comment under some Teal Swans video or just told to that guys local psychiatrist and I just couldn't resist rustling this guys jimmies. I don't know who the fuck you are tho and when or why you have appeared here. Your posts in the suicide thread are all nonsense btw, god forbid someone actually may believe that crap. But sadly this is the state of fringe now.



You helped others because it's easier to push unsolicited and solicited advice on people instead of doing what you preach yourself. I was in the same boat years ago. Stop trying to vicariously save yourself by saving others, even if the hope is that they will return the favor and help rescue you. It won't happen because then you'd develop a dependent relationship and it's the wrong lesson for humanity.

You need to develop independence. Forgiving yourself is a great way to start. In healing such of this, I've attended Shamanic workings of group guided meditation on soul-loss and retrieval to connect with your past-self to receive your own forgiveness and love; if they were ready for it. Some of us weren't ready for forgive. Some of us were prevented by our own demons. Some of us realized we can only heal ourselves.

You may find this interesting:


Let go of trying to save those around you because it's harder to face and care for yourself. People you meet will be projections of your own situations. Until you fix yourself, the people you run into won't be fixed either.


>You don't have to forgive yourself like a fucking pussy.

You reek of self-avoidance and false machismo. Self-forgiveness is one of the most important self-healing there is and can be the easiest. Why would such a machismo be afraid of confronting themselves again with love, compassion and understanding? Who are you trying to impress? Who are you trying to prove yourself to so you don't have to do this self-work?

You sound more afraid than confident.



No, sadly this is the state of (you). I've been around the fringe boards lurking, reading, studying. I used to post threads for the BOND, but have since stepped away. You can insult me all you want, but I don't see how you're doing any better by apathetically shitposting. But be my guest, tip that bottle back a bit more and you might be able to see the reflection of a sad man at the bottom.

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Reality Creation 101

I'm writing this thread because I see a lot of confusion and even worse, disempowerment floating about here. Thus, It might be time for a refresher on reality creation. Now, there are an infinite amount of models on how the universe works. We're going to leave that out of this because I have mine, and I'm assuming you have yours. What this inevitably boils down to is one question; How good are you at getting what you want? Magick can be thought of as "The applied science of manifesting your will into reality." So let's get real here. How good are you at it?

If you can shoot fireballs out of your dongus, but can't find a loving girlfriend… Then you have failed as a mage.

If you can levitate your balls off the floor with the power of your mind, but need to wipe your ass with a crusty rag because you can't afford toilet paper…Then you have failed as a mage.

If I were to ask you "Do you have limits?" and you were to answer with anything other than an immediate and empathetic "Hell NO" then…eeyup. You have failed as a mage.

We live in a universe where you really -do- get to have everything. You can think of the universe a …cosmic chef. When it asks you "How would you like your desert" you're more than able (and entitled to) say "On the sweet side please!" the trouble is that most mundanes (and even some of the neophytes here) say "Just deep fry some pig shit for me thanks." and then endure eating it with all of the stoicism of a cow standing in the rain. Is this you? Well no more. I know you. I know you are better than that. So we're going to set out to changing your order.

Heres a sample of what we're going to learn in this thread.

A. Why the law of attraction sucks donkey balls.

B. How to use emotional resonace to create the reality you want, along with two simple tools and a discussion of how to select the right one for the job.

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I am reading this now to get a better grasp how to harness energy, I will put this here for anyone interested.



I need a job but I don't want a job. Anyone know how to work with this conflicting energy when manifesting?



Either manifest a job you enjoy (no matter how unlikely that sounds, you're dealing with infinite possibility, and you don't have to know the specific job for this anyway) or, long term, financial independence.



hmm yes, so just broadly manifest 'a job i like' and let nature take care of the details? That sounds like a nice appraoch, I will try, thanks anon.



this is great advice for neophytes, magic is very intuitive, but you have to actually start doing it to learn it properly, all the knowledge in all the books contained in the /fringe/ library (and the OP as well) should merely function as guidlines, you'll be learning the most when you actually get away from your computer and start doing shit.

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"Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law." Matthew 7:12

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Thank you for your kind words.



The problem is, it can be kind of like buying people gifts that you want.



If God is all you have, you have all you need.

John 14:8

“Religion means to know God and to love Him.”

― Srila Prabhupada, The Science of Self-Realization


Or if you are jewsus be to others as they are to you.

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Do you think Chris-Chan's astral projection "Other world" has any validity? While it's fully possible that he could just be tripping on drugs or being an autist I think he may be actually achieving journeys to his weird pony world. Normally one would have to push it off but the strange detail that he goes into with his stories and amount of well thought out world building that he establishes in his many tweets about his travels. If anything, his constant struggle and autism could actually contribute to his ability to travel, as some kind of karma could be enacted to him for how much shit he has gone through. Maybe his other world is just god giving him a place of respite from his quickly failing mental, physical, and financial state irl.

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>Maybe his other world is just god giving him a place of respite from his quickly failing mental, physical, and financial state irl.



All cultures except a chosen few sects in the modern era, yes.

To truly be "powerful" (or whatever), you need to be able to wield dark and light, feminine and masculine. Otherwise it's like trying to run a marathon with one leg. Good luck, we're all rooting for you.



Seems like most of the world these days isn't doing all that much better than Chris.


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Remember in that Adventure Time Episode when we saw that Fionna and Cake was broadcasted into the universe through Ice King's brain waves while dreaming, and was picked up by radio antennas? Perhaps the thoughtforms of Christine are so vivid because of her autistic obsession with the Sonichu canon, which eventually leads to it realising itself in a powerful wave form, the properties of consciousness being consumed by this Chaos Magick elevates subjective perception towards the reality of the subject.

Obviously, this sister-dimension is a metaphor for the mental gateway to the creative structures which emerge in the Sonichu canon, but if your mind falls in line with this logic completely, then you enter into your own reality, which is why people who do this are labelled as crazy. Basically, she has a portal in her mind which for all intents and purposes allows a path into this reality.


Well, I never said anything about everyone else, though I do have the lowest possible opinion of humanity. I was talking about dumb people. When you talk to a legitimately stupid person, it feels like you're talking to a wall, like they are barely hearing what you say. People that you can talk to about almost anything and they will never know what you're talking about. Basically talking about the stupidest people I have ever seen in my life. People in my family, and a couple of teachers (not even most teachers are on that level), most of them women. My grandmother asked before about what the hell the sky is, and what is behind it, why it's blue and what is up with that black thing when it's night time, in her fucking 60s, and she's not uneducated. I had a massive amount of issues with her because she always believed in insane superstitious bullshit (she even called everything that I drew demonic when I was a kid and made me destroy a few things) that I didn't understand at all as a kid, and would attack me for it, and everything was an excuse to say that I was a piece of shit like my dad and threaten to kick me out. Her sister, until her 20s, thought that we live on the inside of a hollow planet (I would like to hear her younger self explain how exactly the sun works, that would be fun). My grandfather used computers since the mid 90s and to this day he doesn't know how to minimize, maximize and resize windows, and other basic window manager shit. My mother has used computers since before she was 20 and only learned how to use a search engine when I explained to her, when she was already in her 40s, and her browser was always 50% toolbars. She also basically believes she's a witch (I don't know much about that, and don't want to know), is a compulsive liar, and everything bad that happens is a curse. She lost her keys once and ended up screaming that the keys disappeared because her ex cursed her. All of these people are emotionally out of control as well. Because of this shit, I became incredibly paranoid and didn't let them see anything that I did. When I was watching TV and showed up, I would change channels. When I was using the computer and they showed up, I would close everything no matter what it was. I still have issues with this sort of thing to this day. My door has to always be locked. When I wasn't allowed to lock it, I would look behind me so much that I hurt my neck and it become a recurring issue for many years. I fPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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>Also recognize that the "you" that is consciously reading and processing this right now is not the "you" that will go on said journey through the door and come back. They are different aspects of yourself working together.

Can you elaborate a bit? I can't quite grasp this.



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Hi so there was a book where a guy was teaching how to have oobes more realistic than life and that could last a year anyone has it or has a title? I it was michael something with and the title was about matrix or transcending the matrix or such



>Simultaneity. The division between days is arbitrary, every hour is an hour regardless of when it is. Find your productive hours for tasks that you find valuable and use those hours wisely.

Well, the problem is not finding the hours, but the tasks. Recently I've been getting additional energy but I don't feel like doing anything with it. Whenever I try something, it gets duller and duller, and some time after I put it aside.So, despite having whole days ( regardless of relativity of time), and surplus energy I don't feel like doing partaking in those activities. Is as if I was a super-athlete but no sports seem to interest me.

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Knowing a bit about duality, the outer light and darkness in the manifest world and so on, one who again experiences the infinite form of Bhairava procures illumination.

Like this, one should ever contemplate on the terrible darkness of night during the dark fortnight of the moon, if he desires to attain the form of bhairava.

Similarly, while closing the eyes, one should contemplate on the profound darkness spreading in front as the form of bhairava. Thus he becomes one with that.

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>Can I ask if you're the same hinduanon who was interested in Dzogchen? That thread was invaluable and this seems extremely similar

That was me, anon. It's a pleasant surprise to hear someone enjoyed the that particular thread I made about Natural Perfection. Personally I immensely disliked that entire thread. One anon in particular was hell-bent on debating me and kept responding with massive walls of text, turning what I hoped to be a pleasant thread discussing the common idea of universal perfection across various cultures into a petty debate. I did see your post by the way and did download that text you mentioned, the Hua Hu Jing. It's on the list now of things to read one day.

Just recently I finally finished Kali Kaula as recommended by Tantrabro as an introduction to tantric Shakta, and then I also finished Mr.Snellgrove's translation of the Hevajra Tantra, a Buddhist text on the old school tantric yoga tradition of medieval India. However after finishing this I learned that he censored some of the text that he found distasteful, and so I'm reading another translation by Farrow and Menon along with the ancient commentary of a Kapalika Yogi (ash covered ascetic with the sole possesion of a Brahmana's skull used to beg for alms) on the text.

It's a fascinating study on meditation practice and yidam deity worship, and this yogi is a highly insightful character, however I'm picking up on a variety of themes in the text that he either didn't notice or feel the need to comment upon. In the chapter on mantra usage the tantra seems to degenerate into being a simple spellbook, with mantras uttered to dispel tigers, elephants, monkeys, mantras to attract or dispel women, destroy armies and so on. At first appearance it's enough to make one sneer at petty superstitions, however earlier today it struck me that the author is simply being metaphorical and providing mantras for the destruction of negative aspects of mind.

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>degenerate into being a simple spellbook

>petty superstitions

>mantras uttered to dispel tigers, elephants, monkeys, mantras to attract or dispel women, destroy armies and so on

I totally get where are you coming from, nevertheless I wouldn't treat mantras for specific purposes as mere superstitions, nor would I ever claim that a tantra has "degenerated" in any respect. Tantras are scriptures revealed by either the central male deity of given branch of Hindu Tantra (agamas) or the Goddess Herself (nigamas), and in the case of Buddhist tantras - celestial bodhisattvas. To disrespect tantra is to disrespect the deity (or bodhisattva) that uttered it for the benefit of mankind.

I've come across many tantras that teach "folk rituals" along with mantras for a plethora of purposes. Protection from evil spirits, creation of misfortune, creation of strife, killing enemies, curing illnesses, attraction of a husband… That kind of stuff. I have no reason to doubt this, since Tantra is a really multi-faceted tradition, that blends magic and spirituality. There are Tantrik currents more attuned to one or the other (and those in between). I have no reason to doubt the efficacy of said rituals and mantras. Someone could say that creating some squibbles out of statements about what you desire is mere superstition. Nevertheless - sigil magic works, and in fact it's one of the easiest ways to prove to oneself that magic works, if one is in a need of a proof. If we agree that you can manipulate the world around you with just your mind, why sneer at the thought of being able to manipulate it with external rituals?

Same with traditional witchcraft, with the ancient magic, with many techniques contained in greco-egyptian magical papyri, same with tantras too. These texts contain very specific, precise instructions on what you ought to do to bring about the effect that you want. Back in the times when those texts were being created the written word was much more valuable than it is now. You wouldn't just make up complex ritual injunctures if they were useless. In my opinion the point of Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


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An example of giving more esoteric meaning to external rites, from Vijnanabhairava (translation by Christopher Wallis):

The Goddess said:

If, O Lord, this is the true form of Parā, how can there be mantra or its

repetition in the [nondual] state you have taught? What would be visualized,

what worshipped and gratified? And who is there to receive offerings?

The revered Bhairava replied:

In this [higher way], O doe-eyed woman, external procedures are considered

coarse & superficial (sthūla). Here ‘japa’ is ever greater meditative absorption

(bhāvanā) into the supreme state; and similarly, here the ‘mantra’ to be

repeated is the spontaneous resonance [of self-awareness], which is the soul of

all mantras.

As for ‘meditative visualization’ (dhyāna), it is a mind that has become

motionless, free of forms, and supportless, not imagining a deity with a body,

eyes, face and so on.

Pūjā is likewise not the offering of flowers and so on. A mind made firm, that

through careful attention dissolves into the thought-free ultimate void [of

pure awareness]: that is pūjā.

When one is connected to [even] one of the practices given here, the aspect of

Bhairava called ‘nourished fullness’ (bharita) will arise and develop day by day:

it is absolute wholeness, it is contentment.

Offering the elements, the senses, and their objects, together with the mind,

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I honestly can say I didn't pay attention to most things people posted, I just know that you and the swastikanon quoted some stuff that immediately stood out as the real deal, to use a phrase which might here be ironic.

I'm counter-flattered that you would put the Hua Hu Ching on your reading list. I must admit it is a forgery, all copies are basically no more authentic than a "real" necronomicon, but the translation I have is alright. I don't know if I'd hold it up as the same as Longchenpa now that I've read both, but [insert some different-fingers-same-moon BS here]. I'm light of that, if you're not in the mood for more metaphysics, it might be prudent to leave it for later if at all.

I appreciate the direction/recommendations, though. I got back into magic to find a way to recreate a moment of satori, and having found it, now I'm looping back into magic for practical shits & giggles. Funny how it all loops back on itself, like an ouroboros, or autofellatio. Hmmm, maybe I really ought to get into yoga after all…



Christopher Wallis is in the process of making a series on Vijnanabhairava, so if you are not following him - you are missing out. At the moment - there is nothing available on VBT that would match his depth and understanding of Sanskrit, not until the original commentaries are translated at least.

I'm finally catching up with his works, he's been very prolific lately. If anyone read and practised VBT or is interested in Tantrik meditation techniques - you won't find anything better.


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What does /fringe/ think of the black cube?

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This post is related to what I am saying. They do not create anything, only pervert. They perverted Saturn, who originally was a god of harvests and abundance.


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I feel that I can answer some questions.

It relates to the analogy of the cuboid monolith in 2001, there is the ideal, the master of motion which guides our actions, our spirit. The spirit is promoted by progress, as described through the Hegelian synthesis, we are confronted with nature, and we learn to survive it, this is the principle of Darwinistic ideology, that life will adapt to it's environment, now…

In 2001: A Space Odyssey, the apes are content in their habitat until the fateful monolith emerges unto them, the monolith is a perfect geometric phenomena, in other words, it is not of the form of the earth, it is beyond our nature. This conflict of reality, between understood knowledge and mystery is the basis of exploration, intellectually and environmentally; progress.

If the apes had not come into contact with this object, they would not need to understand it's existence and to thus understand their own in relation to it. This separation between self, other, mind and body is the inception of humanity in it's collective unconscious towards the emergence of idealistic progress, towards solving the mystery of the monolith and claiming mastery over their new environment. Think of the mind in it's own essential form; such as the body, such is the mind, like how Baphomet is portrayed in it's prevalent humanity. Now think of problem-solving, it works in the same way as adapting to a physical environment, except it is mental, this is often why thought is personified, why we "overcome" or "move past" things, it only makes sense to think of the mind as it's own type of animal.

So humanity has progressed, now we travel to the moon to find another cuboid, this represents a milestone of collective progress for humanity, the 'aliens' are guiding our mental and physical evolution towards total transcendence, as we see in the finale of the film. Freemasonry is heavily cynical of humanity and seeks progress as an escape from the cruel order of the universe.I

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>not always the basis of exploration

Nice Hegel, but I think that "thought-axioms" fail humanity in practice.

:Not everything is black & white."



Who remembers Crowley referring to the being he interacted with in Egypt as "the Beast".


>"Freemasonry is heavily cynical of humanity and seeks progress as an escape from the cruel order of the universe."

Perhaps we find that the Freemasons were/are "dogmatized".

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UPDATE: I have given the board over to one of the mods from /pol/ and he is adding several other /pol/ mods, this will ensure that the board is in good aryan hands, I have told them though to ban rule 7 breakers for 2 weeks, and everyone else for 15 minutes per offense, hopefully they moderate fairly…

My youtube account and my gmail account have both been shutdown. I was using them both for many years and they have very suddenly today been locked down faster than I could react to salvage anything. My Samsung Galaxy Tab S which runs Android (Google shit) has stopped working and been locked down, I think it's about good for nothing now, or I have to put a new operating system on it that isn't android maybe to be able to use it again for anything. My board is being raided over and over incessantly by people skilled in social engineering who are trying to overthrow me, besmirch me, etc. and put an end to my mission to provide an uncensored outlet for occult information and discussions with their endless onslaught of spam. I am unable to post in the Order of Fringe Wizard's chat on Skype and some unusual fuckery is going on with that and I have a lot of problems with Skype in general, including leaks of private conversations and indications that my Skype account has been compromised. I have had my steam account hacked by IPs coming out of Russia and also because I just lost my gmail account I now have no way to recover my steam account, it is fucking toast. The games I paid for I will never be able to play because (((they))) can just disable my account and since everything is tied to the account and there's no way to keep a CD or something like back in the day the situation is fucked.

Although I have decided not to talk about it at all until now; I keep getting approached in real life by people from the military and undercover police and uniformed police, all of who regularly talk to me and "check up on me" and make me nervous sometimes how they seem to drop hints to me that could be concealed threats. Besides that I also keep encountering psychics everywhere with unusual powers that always recognize me right away, maybe by my aura or some other way, that there is something about me that is unusual and merits their attention and their open use of powePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>he is still doing this



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