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Two years ago today, /nofap/ was founded on the grounds that 2015 should be a nofap year. 2015 came and went, and now so has 2016.

Once again, we've all made great strides. Maybe you didn't make it the whole year. In fact, you probably didn't. If you did, you are the official king of /nofap/. If not, no sweat. Consider this: In a normal year you might have fapped once or more every day. That's at least 365 faps. Maybe in the past year you only fapped once every other day, or on and off every couple days, or something like that. That's not some big huge impressive streak, but that does cut 365 down to 182, which is pretty fucken good. When you think back on the past /nofap/ year, judge it in those terms.

That said, it's a new year, which means we all have the opportunity here to make it a completely clean /nofap/ year with a big huge impressive streak, which may not be necessary to mark improvement, but would still be fucking awesome to get. Get started now, because starting isn't gonna get easier the longer you wait. All you have to do is nothing, and believe that you're gonna make it. And remember that nofap isn't the only thing you can do to make your life better. Eat right, lift, read books, don't spend every second of your life shitposting. 2017 will be a great year.

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Welcome to /nofap/

This board is for the discussion of nofap, noporn, and the societal implications of fapping and porn.



>1. Stay on topic. The topic is pretty loosely defined here so use some common sense.

>2. Don't post porn. NSFW images will be deleted. Posting NSFW material as a shitty troll attempt will result in a comically long ban. This board is SFW, so keep it that way.

>3. Non-/nofap/pers are welcome to come and question the premise of nofap and to argue against nofap. That said, shitposts, flames, bait, spam, and trolls are not allowed and such threads will be locked or deleted.

Just those three.

edit: Fugg the rules/faq page got nuked and I'm too lazy to recreate it right now.

If anyone needs to get a hold of me try my e-mail at [email protected]

And because I don't want to clutter the board with excess stickies:

ITT: dump /nofap/ infographs, videos, links, banners and other such things

EDIT: Adding the IRC to this thread because it doesn't need its own sticky.


#nofap on Rizon

For anyone who doesn't know how to access IRC, just click on the following link and it should become pretty apparent:


Rules are basically the same as here only it's going to be less strict on staying on-topic. Though copious funposting will be encouraged, we'll also be able to have real-time serious discussions if we want to. Maybe even work out a little fappers anonymous session.

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The rules and FAQ page is giving me a 404.

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>stop jacking off

>feel better about quitting porn

>realize i still waste my time dicking about online

Anything you've done to replace/limit time online?

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I'm moving into the city hopefully to remedy this, so I have more distractions available. I need to quit imageboards, I just relapse too much when dealing with them.

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tfw just relapsed


It happens; you're only human. The important thing is you get right back on that horse, and don't let yourself binge.

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sdfsdfsfasdfello me mates;)))here is your mate williem back to teach you how to waggle your willy like a willy wanking bishop;;'))

ohoy me mates;;))) now some of oyu guys are confused on how to waggle your willy eh???so u wanna be a willy wanking star,big deal.u gotta learn the willywanking game in 5 easy steps. cumon me mate lets leurn to wank our willies together with me mates gordon charlie and bill and even lilttle cousin nicky;)).

STEP 1# GRAB the willy!!you have to wait for it to turn into a sasuage stick, dont worry if it doest happen in 10 seconds like me!!!just grab an issue of your beano comic your mummy bought you at the newsagents, flip to a page with minnie the minxes bum and bbengin wanking your willy!!!

step #2 move your hand up and down your willy,ur getting there me mate;)))if possible do it with your mates in your tree house so your mummies cant see or hear you!!aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!;)));)))

STEP 3# you will be feeling your willy about to explode!!!!!it's going to hurt a lil;;)do dont worry;)))because your willy is going to EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!just shout AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1MYWILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!and there will be white wee wee verywhere thhat is very goeey;))if you finish before your mates then help them by waggling THEIR willies;))) and now you are a master ant waggling your willing with your mates;))))) just remember to ask me if you ever need to waggle your willy again;;;;)))now pip ipip cheerio im off to waggle my willy!!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

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The ultimate redpill is is that recreational sex itself leads to decadence of society. The more it is practiced, the faster it will fall. The ultimate path to recovery of almost all plagues of society is to keep the mind completely away from the idea of sex itself. Is it a wonder almost every time tested religion requires chastity.

The Brahmacharis (Vedic hindus who invented yoga) and the Buddhist Monks including Guatama Buddha himself made this crystal clear too. The Bible also almost says this. A few philosophers of orthodox Christianity (such as Clement of Alexandria, pic related) have said the same thing.

Modern science proclaiming "Have more sex, masturbate more, watch more porn goy, or you'll get cancer!" is all bullshit. All of it. It reeks of jew engineered studies to keep the goyim confused and weak and rob them of their masculinity to keep them from rebelling. These are the same people pushing "gender fluidity" and transexuality on children. It makes so much sense that they get their own dicks cut, which lessens the sensations of orgasms so they won't be as attracted to sex thus spending more time conquering the goyim.

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You fucking dickhead, why do you think women's beauty and your sex drive towards her peaks around the time she his most fertile? the purpose of sex is none of that hedonistic shit, the only purpose of sex is to make babies, propagate the species, that's it

That's why i was talking about artificial insemination, now that we've found ways to achieve that same result without sexual acts we should get ready as individuals and as a society to eliminate sex from our lives so that we finally won't have to fear the slippery slope anymore, but instead we're going the opposite direction thanks to faggots like you


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>You are fucking nuts. Sex when practiced right(tantra and love tao) energizes the whole body and strengthens the marriage.

No it makes you a weak, brainless faggot and more degenerate. This "tantra" sex just another fetishized sex which will eventually lead to degenerate fantasies. All sex leads down this path.

>A sexless marriage quickly falls apart.

Its the opposite. Couples who learn to define their marriage as something more than lust actually end up living the rest of their lives together. Lust/passion will eventually vanish with a snap of a finger after marriage, or just when you bang each other enough times. Then what?

Also, science before jews gained world power was unanimous in the opinion that loss of semen equals faster aging and death. The last time a prominent figure in the West even talked about transmuting this sexual energy to work was Napolean Hill - whose book is still regarded as the best self-help book of all times.

>Probably the same kind of person who would advocate for mass immigration, right?

I'm full 1488 kiddo. Hitler wanted a chaste society. He would gas you for spreading this tantra degeneracy.



>eliminate sex from our lives

You sound like the villain in a cyberpunk novel.


What you're arguing in favour of is married men and women ignoring their bodies and their spouses' bodies. If sexual pleasure and attraction are good because they allow people to form deep, emotional bonds (husband-wife and parent-child, for instance) how is it they are bad even when practiced in moderation? This isn't even a case of too much of a good thing being bad for you; what you're describing is a case of any amount more than the absolute bare minimum being bad, which is insane.

>Couples who learn to define their marriage as something more than lust actually end up living the rest of their lives together

Prove it. While you're at it, stop lying about what your opponents say and stop putting words in their mouths.


God did not make you to write such evil posts.


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>You sound like the villain in a cyberpunk novel.

He is right though. Eliminating sex as a means of recreational activity does not equal eliminating it all together. Sex is required for procreation - and that's where its optimal use is and that's where it should stop. Just like most other animals.

>What you're arguing in favour of is married men and women ignoring their bodies and their spouses' bodies.

Not bodies - but urges that lead to destruction. Sex is all in the mind. The more you have sex or fap the more of it you'll begin to crave. Like fast food or drugs. It needs to be treated like a destructive activity. Like eating sugar.

The Bible got it absolutely right with lust being part of the 7 sins. Book of Romans talk in detail on how to escape the urges. In Greek philosophy, Sophocles prided himself on avoiding sex as "escaping a raging and savage beast of a master". In Hindu epic Maharabharta, Hanuman is physically strongest warrior on the side of the good, and he took a vow of celibacy at a young age. Hanuman is still an active God in India today.

>If sexual pleasure and attraction are good because they allow people to form deep, emotional bonds (husband-wife and parent-child, for instance) how is it they are bad even when practiced in moderation?

There is a difference between love and lust you dumbfuck. Two people can only fuck each other enough times before they get bored and start forming sexual attractions to either more depraved fantasies to get that same high they once used to get from orgasms with each other, or they look for new partners which means adultery and eventually divorce.

>Emotional bonds

Emotional bonds don't depend on sex. Holy shit. Ask the tinder generation how much "emotional bonds" they form with their hookups. Real love between a couple exists separate from sexual lust.

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I know nofap is good for me but i always get stuck on day3 how can I get passed this stage I have relapsed day 3 twice now



oh yeah and i relapsed today and i feel like shit


I got passed day 3 and deleted all my porn on my computer also I did something with my time today instead of laying around watching YT and fapping.



even when I relapsed I did not watch porn so it has to have been a month after my last porn session (not including when I deleted what I had saved).the strangest thing is that I do not really miss porn all that much but the masturbation is the strongest urge.



Sucks man. I had a thing like that too. I would get so horny on day 3 I would just start humping. I'd hump my wall as I went to sleep. I'd stretch my crotch out so hard it'd damage my chair. It was horrible.

Eventually, I got a good motivator. I gave up masturbation to help Trump in 2016. Since that relapse on day 5 or 6, this variously recurs. Sometimes, I just get really horny. To be honest, the main fix is to like…try to go to sleep. Take a nap. Something like that. But if you've got a strong motivator, like the upcoming Alternative for Germany and Freedom Party of Austria elections, or the Syrian Civil War, etc. If it's not too bad where you're like seriously unable to avoid craving the hole in the wall near you, you try to like, distract yourself from your urges…you can also do stuff like pray, or just try to do something else. God is with you, my friend.

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Our threads have ~20 posts each which is not efficient, this makes the good old threads vanish

Lets fix it with generals! BO, make this a sticky

What effects do you observe during nofap? Do you observe the effects others anons do?

For me the objective effects are as follows

>I want to sleep earlier, so sleeping schedule is normalized

>I need an~hour/2 hours less time to sleep and I feel much more refreshed when I wake up

>I now see dreams, multiple ones during a night

>the white dots on the fingernails are gone

>varicocele gone

>I had a jelly like fat thing under the penis head on the right, apparently it formed from fapping too much, the less I fapped the smaller it became, it was 5mm thick and 1 cm long after fap, now it's flat

The subjective effects are the standard package

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I'm in the same boat as you. I also only fapped once every 1-2 days and when I started abstaining I got wetdreams usually a week after.

Just power through it. Clean it up and don't give it anymore thought. If you are, try avoiding pornographic imagery and the likes. In my experience on days I feel arousal, not even edging or touching myself, there is a good chance I'll sin overnight. Even playing with fantasies in my head too much seems to trigger it, so my advice would just be to try and keep yourself clean, even mentally


Hippocrates said, "Having sexual intercourse excessively depletes the strength, weakens the body, dries the moistures in the body, adversely relaxes the nerves, causes various clogs and harms the entire body, especially the brain because of the psychological effects it will have on it. Weakness in the brain, which will In addition weaken the soul, is worse than weakness in any other organ."

Muhammad said “O young men, whoever among you can afford to get married, let him do so, and whoever cannot afford it, let him fast, for that will be a shield for him.”

Fasting helps prevent urges. Also avoiding any pornographic websites and abstaining from looking at women.


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>taking anything Muhammad says seriously




tbh that goatfucker was just a plagiarist and almost everything he says was basically taken from other religions



Ever heard of an "Autism blanket" aka a comforter?

Use one of them.

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So I forgot to make the thread on time this year, but better late than never.

There are already other nofap threads, but most of those are indefinite. I thought that having another thread for people who don't feel ready to go complete cold turkey yet or whose failed to really do it before need a goal with an end to look forward too. What's good about this is that you don't have to fap after day 30. You just have to make it 30 days. After that, you can keep going however long you want.

So yeah, do it for whatever reason you like. You can cum join us at anytime you like, just make sure it's 30 days. No edging, no porn, nothin'. But this would all be useless if you weren't spending the time you were fapping doing something more productive. So I guess post the reason why you're here, how long you want to go for, and what you'll be doing in the mean time.

And remember: Don't fap ya cunt.

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The worry of yoga is more about popping a boner since I'm surrounded by people in leggings. Part of me thinks I'll be fine, but I don't trust myself. As for showers, I don't want to have to shower in the morning after showering at night cause I made a mess.

My brother sometimes sleep talks, usually during a dream. I had a dream about masturbating and cumming buckets

I don't think I do cause I think someone would have told me, but I still worry.



just had yoga…it's too difficult to get a boner. Or to actually relax.

Boxers are bad for yoga apparently. It also sometimes makes your dick noticeable depending on which position you're in.

And apparently my hamstrings are really tight, which is the reason my arms hurt before my legs when doing a plank or downward dog.

Saging my blogpost






Ona roll right now, day 5.

The first 3 days would have been the most difficult, but circumstances made it so i am tired af everytime i usualy fap and i just went for sleep every time.

Last 2 days i have been makin conection with some girl, we are both socialy idiotic, i had trouble remembering her name for the first day, and i doubt she remembers my exact age, so we both laugh a lot how we can open up to each other now and actualy found some common interests and thoughts on life.

I could be on my way to the normie life, i guess?

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Can I get rid of my fetish for furry/kemono via nofap? I don't know why, but I've found cute furry girls infinitely more attractive than regular girls since I first found out it was a thing. Not into fursuiting or the autistic "community", I just jack off to the porn. I've heard of nofap; my longest and only substantial streak was 150 days from late last December to late this June, which didn't rid me of my fetish.

Any ex-furfags here? What's your story?


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Congrats on going 150 days, that's really impressive! My best was right around there too- it's not easy. It does seem to get less difficult after the first few weeks though, I think that's when the habit starts to break or something.

In regards to your question, although I'm not a furry, I've accumulated some fetishes that are arguably worse, imo. I'll not get into all that, though. In so many words, no, I don't think you can. Once you've wired your brain-body connection to respond to certain imagery/ideas with arousal/pleasure, it seems to be there for good. The best thing you can do is just try to avoid your triggers and not think about it. I think you can replace old fetishes with new stronger ones, but this tends to degenerate from bad to worse VERY quickly- so I don't recommend it at all.

There is the school of thought that you can "pray the gay away" so to speak, and there might be something to that. I suppose it's much the same thing as junkies and alcoholics who realize their habit is destroying them and replace it with a fierce dedication to their spiritual and/or religious beliefs. Still, I don't think that actually changes the way your brain is wired; it just puts new programming in there that is different from the old.

And remember, the fetish isn't the real problem; lacking the will power to resist it is– at least that's what I tell myself.

Best of luck to you!

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Hello everyone. I come from /pol/ and other dark places to start my dejewisation journey. I hope this will help me cure my social anxiety. We start at day 0 so here goes nothing


I fapped today and watched some degenerate pornography therefore it counts as day 0. So far i feel normal. We will see at later days.

Wish me luck. The sole reason i bother to write this is to keep track on my progress and not relapse

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Still here i see?

a lot has happened since my last post, blonde is now my gf. I have managed to relapse several times and went on several streaks of differing time span. Now i stand on day 2. I may start another thread someday or start another journal in this one.


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Good to see you again! Congrats on getting the girl, that's a big step in the right direction. As far as I'm concerned just keep posting in this thread until bump limit. Seems like it would be a bit much having multiple natsoc-nofap threads on the front page all the time.


Day eight, week one.

Well, I've finally gotten back on the horse for more than a day or two. Haven't been losing weight unfortunately, but I haven't been gaining it either. Still fat as fuck, but not as fat as I was.

I've been reading Solzhenitsyn's "The Gulag Archipelago" (currently on book two, third part) and man- let me tell you… it's a hard read. It's not difficult in its readability, it's just utterly soul-rending stuff. I thought I knew how bad the Jewish Bolsheviks were, but I had absolutely no idea. The sheer sadistic cruelty and inhumane pathology of their murderous ideology is mind-boggling. And yet, there is almost no talk of it outside of a few individuals. Instead there is an endless rehash of imaginary death showers and human lampshade fairy tails. It's sickening. I recommend everyone try to pick this one up at one point or another- it's a long read, about 2100 pages total, but well worth the effort.



Day Seventeen, week two.

A chic talked to me at the bus stop today. She was cute, younger than me, and white. She offered me a cigarette and I politely declined. Asked me if I went to school. "No." Asked me if I worked. "No." Laughed and kept chatting, told me to have a good day when I got off the bus. I know it's probably a good thing, so why does it make me feel so soul crushingly sad?


plot thickens

That paper about oxytocin making people more tolerant of immigrants freaked everyone out.

Every conspiracy theorist always goes for the water, or for the air. It's always the tap water or the chemtrails. But you need to think outside the box.

We ARE being drugged with oxytocin. Absolutely, 100% and it's easily verifiable. Infact when I tell you how they're doing it, it's fucking blatantly obvious and nobody will even try denying it.

It's internet porn. Porn is a mass-scale oxytocin/dopamine drug delivery system. And everyone is so addicted to it they not only don't care that they're being drugged, they cry for more. They get up in arms when anyone even dares threaten to take away their precious drug delivery system.

The orgasm triggers a huge rush of dopamine and oxytocin. Compulsive masturbation (always the result of porn addiction) results in totally dysfunctional oxytocin/dopamine systems.



Day twenty-two, week three.

Have slacked off on my reading. Just been cracking out on SNES emulator… haven't been eating very good either.. didn't walk last night, and slept for thirteen hours. At least I haven't been jacking off, I guess.


I mean, you're not wrong… bur I think you may be in the wrong thread.

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So, for some time now I am being able to not fap. I decided for several reasons, one of them being religious and the other one being the fact that porn is bad for our minds and can make us sick perverts.

What troubles em the most is the fact that I like to make use of some kind of entertainment that appeals to my urges.

What I mean is, i read some novels, play some japanese gaymes e so on, and all of those can be really erotic at some time. I was playing a VN where the protagonist ends up fucking some girls, and it comes all together with animated CGs and moans. I do not play/read/watch those medias to fap or to feel aroused, the porn just comes with it. Of course I get a hard on, but I'm able to control myself and keep going.

My fear is if it's ok or not to use those medias when what I want the most is to "clean" my brain of the malefic side of porn. I'm not fapping, but I' kind of watching/reading porn, is this still affecting my brain or the fact that I'm not fapping makes it ok?


It's not ok. You get urges for it because your brain knows the dopamine it gives. It's unhealthy

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I'm creating this for anyone who either can't quit fapping or doesn't want to, but wants to quit porn. There are plenty of ways of quitting porn, and the two main ones are: cold-turkey, and weaning.

Cold-turkey: Quitting porn immediately but fapping has much has you please. From personal expierience it is doable and your urge to fap will take a nosedive but so will your energy and sleep amount. You're losing a visual drug you supplied yourself for years and basically haven't adapted to being without it.

Weaning: In amounts over time you lower how much you fap to porn. I found this to take the shock off of quitting porn. I am at nearing the tail end of a six month wean, and it's working good so far. The first month for me was 5 times a day with porn (with unlimited fapping without it), then 4 a day next month, and so on. I'm on the fifth month, fapping once a day to porn. Next month I'l be fapping exclusively without it. The sleeplessness side effect and low energy side effect are much more reduced and seem to even go away over time. I haven't decided if I'll quit fapping yet - time will tell. You can do a shorter or longer wean, or apply weaning to fapping. I recommend quitting porn before you try to wean or cold-turkey quit fapping. I hope you can find this helpful.


You can cold-turkey quit porn or fapping or wean them away. I recommend weaning if you try to quit either or both.

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Has anyone successfully stopped thoughts of autogynephilia by abstaining from porn and masturbation?

Every time I ride my dildo and masturbate pretending I'm a girl an intense wave of depression comes over me when once I actually cum and starkly realize that I'm not, and will never be, a pretty girl.

I don't think I'm gay or want to be transgender, since these thoughts only started building once I was in my mid-20s, so I'm assuming it's the result of too much pornography. I'm just wondering if it is too late for me or if there's anything I can do to reverse it.

I've accepted that I need to work harder on actually being a man, but right now my sexual desires are that of a girl's, and so I have no motivation to enact that change.

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>tfw literally only start being into traps after prolonged fapping

>first starts out with "oh it's just feminine i'm not even looking at the dick"

>then turns into "feminine penis" but w/e i'll only penetrate

>trap dick is kind of sexy

>i'd play with it a little

>maybe give a reach around


Funny how it's the same progression every time. Start fapping to just imagined girls, then imagined hardcore sex with girls, then clothed models, then tasteful nudes, then camwhores, then actual porn, then lesbians, then traps with the above progression.

As soon as I stop fapping, the attraction to traps immediately disappears. As soon as I lapse, the cycle repeats almost verbatim.

>ride my dildo and masturbate pretending I'm a girl

lol you're pretty far gone m80. Trash the dildo and girl shit. Although I don't get, do you actually not want to be the girl, or is the problem just being pretty?

>depression comes over me when once I actually cum and starkly realize that I'm not

Funny how that doesn't happen with normal faps but comes like clockwork after degenerate faps, huh?

>I don't think I'm gay or want to be transgender

The term is "prison gay".


I was about to laugh at OP, but then i remembered some of my fantasies are just as shameful and degrading


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I'm going through the same shit. Its hard because I don't want to repress my homosexuality if that's just the way that I am, but something just doesn't feel right about it. This shit just isn't making me happy, yet the simplest interactions with girls will make my entire day, so I feel like I'm going down the wrong path with this sissy shit.


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Hey OP have a cookie.

Let me entertain you with a little side story first before you'll get my point.

A little lamb once walked down a path leading to somewhere it had not gone before, but there were a path and so it decided to walk on it while it enjoyed the scenery. At the end of the day it had already gone astray a few times, but it kept on following the path it once set out on. When it was tired it slept and when the sun shone it woke up. At some point it thought, "I don't meet anyone at all. Maybe this isn't the path I should have gone". But, the moment it wanted to go back to where it came it didn't know for certain where that was. The path seemed endlessly long and because it had strayed from it once in a while to eat and sleep.

You are the lamb.

You are almost totaly unknown to this. You don't know where you'll cross a line you shouldn't have, but to be on the move is wise to the wanderer. Listen, contemplate. Once you're certain, step decisively on.


Good thing you do listen to your nature. Homosex is like a flipswitch. A lot of social mammals have the genes to go gay in situations where survivability depends on it. I know for a fact rats have been shown to go gay when "safe space/nesting area" is the no. 1 factor in demand and food isn't. It's easier to survive as a male when you're not interrested in being alphaguy and die bleeding from fighting when you can just hump another like you and gang up on alphaguy who wants you out so he can supply a nesting area.

It's way easier for men to understand each other, but the gains from a male/female bond is way more rewarding. The moment you believe you're stuck in that state you need to accept it even harder as it is a natural phenomenon. Also, the demand for a non-brainwashed, consumerist woman/girl is bigger than ever before, so the thought of becoming what you want/Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Can anyone who has been on a long streak (3 months plus) describe any changes/effects they are noticing?

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>"a substance having no pharmacological effect but given merely to satisfy a patient who supposes it to be a medicine"

Yeah, that's what nofap is.



Placebos are a good thing


I masturbate less.



So shouldn't we tell people that masturbation is a good thing that increases energy and lowers depression to help more people?



>masturbation decreases depression

wew lad

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