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We're All Gonna Make It Bruh

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Welcome to /loomis/ !

This board is intended for the discussion of a variety of artistic subjects, with an emphasis on illustration and animation.

If you're looking for books, video lectures and demonstrations on these subjects, please see the /loomis/ resource hub located at:


Keep drawing, my friends.

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>tfw no Krita gf


I can't believe this program is free; it's improved so much since its first release as far as stability's concerned, too. Some dude's even working on an animation plugin for it. Does anyone know any legit non-Toon Boom or Flash animation software in the interim? So far I've tried Synfig Studio and Pencil2D and they were both unimaginably shitty.
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I don't recognize anything. They changed the icons. I'm scared!



>Let's hope for a future where Krita dominates the market

The developers refuse to add some features because they want Krita to be for drawing only, so your dreams will remain dreams.


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Where are the preset brushes?

Where is the reference image docker?

What the fuck is going on?



The reference image docker was buggy (or so I've heard) so it's been set aside for a re-release.

All the brushes were replaced with that French guy's marginally better brushes iirc.


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I don't want better brushes by some guy. I want my shitty brushes I either don't need to tweak or know how to.

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Eh, /ic has one so let's start one too.

What skill level do I have to be at to start creating my own characters? I want to be at the point where i no longer have to practice the fundamentals constantly and I can improve by making my own things.

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I don't see why not. Why gloves though? is it because it has a simpler shape?


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How right (or wrong) is she? Until what point you find acceptable for a artist to get money at the exchange of doing the same stuff? I ask because I think it's bad to get stagnant with your art but at the same time you have to eat from something right? I just want to know your opinions on the matter



Being a crab that complains about the success of others rather than using the successes of others to inform their own path towards it is very unbecoming. There is no rule about what you should or shouldn't draw. Yes, I would personally say that versatility is important and we should always experiment and grow etc., but if someone doesn't want to do that they are welcome to it and if they find success that way "good for them".

We all have goals with our art to be met and one way to ensure that we never meet them is to spend too much time worrying about what other people are doing instead of what we're doing. When you start old like I did you come to understand the futility of comparing yourself to others or simply complaining as if your time somehow isn't much more valuable spent elsewhere. It's just another form of procrastination, and a shitty one to boot.

ALSO I'm not saying this is you, by the way-at least not for the most part, but such a line of thought does put you at risk as far as that goes. I'm just sharing my opinion on this kind of thing because it's very common. It's much easier to criticize something (especially in a flippant way i.e. "it's shit") than it is for us to do something ourselves and as it's the path of least resistance it becomes typical for a lot of us to act more as armchair critics and commentators than artists, and while that's fully within our right to be that way, it's also very harmful for our growth.

Let other people do what they want. What they can or can't do says nothing about you or me. We want to focus on where we're at, where we're going and how we're going to get there-and that requires eliminating as many distractions as possible.

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Anyone got links to Force by Michael Mattesi and/or How to Render by Scott Robertson?



Force is in the mega under "books and articles >> animation"


I don't think there's one for How to Render in there, though.

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Post images you yourself have used as reference.

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smear on the glass I think




That or whoever posted that picture wanted to obscure a tattoo or something else that she could be identified by.



I was thinking the same thing; after I'd posted I'd realized that the lack of condensation anywhere else on the mirror is suspect


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Share your daily struggles and other art-related feels here.

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>Want to learn to draw

>struggle because I suck and it's too hard

>drop it for a month or so

>see something cool or dream up some autistic fantasy that makes me want to bring my ideas to life

>Pick up the pencil again

>quit later down the line again and lose all that practice

>rinse and repeat

The ride never fucking ends


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>Read a book on how to draw

>"This is easy"

>"I know that already"

>I can complete exercises perfectly with little to no effort

>Drawing non-book exercise stuff

>Can almost implement what I learned, but not quite

This is beyond frustrating. I am sure it is just a mental barrier, but I have no idea how to get over that.


>It's a shame that no one cares about european comics on any /co/

There are some people who do. I always make sure to recommend more obscure but good European books in any relevant thread. I also storytime good stuff when I find it. I've bee thinking of starting a weekly 2000AD thread and Quarterly Heavy metal threads, but I have hard time finding a good issue to start them with. I will probably bite the bullet and kick it off with 2000AD #2075-2077 and then just keep it going.



>Read a book on how to draw

>"This is easy"

>"I know that already"

>I can complete exercises perfectly with little to no effort

You should post your work and let us be the judge of that. Our own perceptions can be extremely unreliable and it would be foolish to trust them alone.





As a europoor myself, I care a lot for such comics, as, amongst other things, they've pretty much shaped my childhood, and wouldn't mind "giving back" a little by making a European comic myself.


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I never liked comics that much until I found out about Metal Hurlant and Heavy Metal some years ago. In fact it was my main inspiration to start drawing myself. So I'd love to discover new artists in the same vein as Moebius, Mezieres, Gillon, Enki Bilal, Claveloux, Serpieri, Frezzato, Liberatore, Marcele, etc., even if they're not translated.

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Executive-sized edition

OLD >>6581

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Understandable, the thing is, i do a drawing every single day, and i don't really have a ton of space around me to work on full arm strokes and things to get nice even lines, but, that's an excuse i suppose


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>i don't really have a ton of space around me to work on full arm strokes and things to get nice even lines

That whole "artificial mileage" thing is good for what it is, but if you watch an artist actually do their lineart you'll see that they often zoom in 300% or so and work the lines in that way. I have great control but it can only go so far. Their control at that point isn't that much of a concern.

However, from what you said it sounds like you just don't have enough room, period? You should probably consider sorting that out somehow.


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god and his son have arrived



Is she taking him to McDonald's?




When Mox wants McDo, Mox gets McDo.

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A thread for people of all skill levels to dump their works-in-progress and studies

Draw shit. Draw it a lot. Git gud. Maybe

[Live Figure Models]



Some select models from Sketchfab, useful for anatomy and perspective study.


Left Click + Hold = Rotate

Right Click + Hold = Drag

CTRL + Left Click + Hold = Zoom in / Zoom out

ALT + Left Click + Hold = Directional Lighting

3 = Matcap (no texture; very useful depending on model, press 1 to return to full render mode)

Human Anatomy:

Male (Muscle Abbreviations; personal favorite)


Male Ecorche


Female Ecorche


Head and Neck (Male)


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Trying to focus on general forms, still.


Is there a PDF of that book anywhere? I've got a few characters who're actually intended to be built like fighters, so having detailed information, instead of just using photos, would be helpful.

Also yeah, there's a lot more of an overlap with /fit/ and uh /loomis/ than you may think. "Self improvement" and all that.

I mean, even I'm /fit/. Not to his level, or even necessarily "/fit/"'s level, but I look like I work out if you see me shirtless.


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Unfortunately I don't believe so. $10-15 for a hard copy isn't bad though. Just make sure you get one of those book holder things; it's nice not having to have one of your monitors taken up with a book that can't even be displayed properly.


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>I mean, even I'm /fit/. Not to his level, or even necessarily "/fit/"'s level, but I look like I work out if you see me shirtless.

Same tbh, it's activities both mindless and mindful that provide our anchors to sanity. Nothing like throwing a pair of dumbbells around while watching the latest season of [insert mediocre japanese girl cartoon here]

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Tried drawing directly from reference; something I don't ever do. I think maybe I should.



>those thigh-highs


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Long time ago /fur/ used to have weekly threads where everyone drew something based on a theme, with each week having a new theme, and it didn't matter what you drew as long as it was somehow related.

Would you guys be interested of doing something similar? Are there even enough drawfags here to do something like it?

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Kinda looks like a nice tit.



Thanks for the share.

I'd like seeing more posts in this thread, even if they're not complex or unfinished. Emphasis is on interpretation of the theme, not quality.


It is titled Thirsty Bug.


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Yeah, I really need to loosen up and contribute more to this thread.

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Last thread is dead.

So, what do you like to listen while drawing?

I downloaded a few OSTs and ended up settling on Nier Automata's OST.

Comfy songs are really comfy and combat songs are really motivating. The singer's voice is also pretty soothing, even during the boss themes.

It's most of what I've listened to while studying/drawfagging.

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Sometimes the right groove is what you need (although too much of it takes the concentration away from the work).


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When you're trying to get off the /clang/ train and this objectively stupid show happens


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Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.


Pick a reference image from:

Bargue Drawing Course (https://ia601200.us.archive.org/14/items/C.BargueDrawingCourse/C.%20Bargue%20-%20Drawing%20Course.pdf), Croquis Cafe (http://www.onairvideo.com/photo-archive.html), or images.google.com to find something you want to draw-just make sure to post your picture reference alongside your work

See 4chan /ic/'s unofficial sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit

and the /loomis/ Resource Hub for more information

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How to draw female torso

I keep trying and they always end up lookin like tube people



If you don't know what something looks like, look at it. Don't waste your time trying to figure out something it just takes a second to look up. If you're drawing bird wings and don't know how the feathers are layered, don't make something up, look into it.

Now if you can't draw a female torso in a specific pose, look up what it looks like in that pose and draw it.

If you do all of that and it still doesn't work, your problem is probably just not being very good at drawing what you see and at that point it's useless to draw what you don't see.



I think the main problem is the pose i was trying to do was kinda wack (Doing sit ups upside down from the rafters) so that's probably what fucked me up

Thanks for the advice anyway


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Hows these abs/hips look


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Try harder dude

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Does anyone know a good website like CTRL+Paint and drawabox that teaches art fundamentals without mostly gearing towards traditional drawing? I don't have time for wasting another money on papers and a expensive high quality pencils cuz i already got myself Wacom Intuos and want a website similar to drawabox or ctrl+paint but geared towards digital drawing.

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Yes as I said earlier



He is never not using photoshop in these videos. Watch them or don't I'm kind of done, here, man.



>He is never not using photoshop in these videos. Watch them or don't I'm kind of done, here, man.

Sorry that kind of came out rude lmoa

I guess all I can say is that the information is all there for you if you just take the time to look: ctrpaint is one of the best and most versatile free resources available today imho.



Corel Paint has been getting more stable and continuing to add brushes that mimic traditional media pretty closely. I recommend giving the trail a shot, then wait for it to go on sale. SAI has a nice feature where you can easily make vector lineart; anyone know of any other programs that do that?



Anon if you're posting that amateurish garbage here an example of what you like then I'm terrified of how bad your own drawings must be.


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>that pic

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what does /loomis/ think of people doing free art requests?

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Post normally, man. If you're going to make blatant self-promotion threads that's really not a big deal, but if you're going to bump them with irreverent and barely-topical posts under other IPs every five hours in the most obvious way to keep it on the front page until the end of days then you can take that shit to /ic/. I'd like to see you get better, not sit here and fruitlessly try and promote yourself on a board that has well under 10 regulars at this point.

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i dont mind self promo threads if op is the guy

at least he draws unlike the salty autistic fucks that shitposts here because some drawfag didnt want to draw their shitty request.


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There was nothing wrong with this thread until you started up with this astroturfing stuff like you always do. This is a board for drawing etc.; if you want to practice viral marketing take it to >>>/biz/


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Wow, sad samefriending.




Hey maldraw, fuck off and take your shitty manga with you. We've had enough of you on /pol/ and elsewhere.

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Anybody got a good customized setup/settings and a recommended workflow for either Manga Studio or SAI? I have both of those programs but i don't know which one i should main, i have problems with importing images on SAI (in case i want a reference for body, pose, character, etc), but it's easy to do so on Manga Studio (it kinda reminds me of Photoshop a little).

Also i don't even have a mentor to help me with learning art fundamentals, it's kinda difficult learning fundamentals myself since i don't know which books and tutorials should i follow in chronological order.


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Don't know about the software. About the fundamentals, first thing is to know what the fundamentals are, then you can look for books and vids on your own.

For me it's something like the following:

>0 - Representation

Ways to represent stuff. What materials and tools you can use to make art. You should learn about line drawing, tonal drawing, painting, digital art, all that jazz. Maybe read something about the history of art.

Some books:

* E. H. Gombrich - The story of art

* Edmund J. Sullivan - Line: an art study

* Howard Simon - 500 years of illustration

* Arthur L. Guptill - Rendering in pen and ink

* Peter Stanyer - The complete book of drawing techniques

>1 - Objects

All things you're gonna be drawing. For instance about the human figure:

* Loomis - Figure drawing for all it's worth

* Loomis - Drawing the head and hands

* Vilppu - Basic figure drawing

* Hampton - Figure drawing for artists

* Zarins, Kondrats - Anatomy for sculptors

* Goldfinger - Human anatomy for artists

* Winslow - Classic human anatomy in motion

* Proko video series

Same for different subjects. If you wanna draw animals, environments, vehicles, outfits, etc. You have to learn their structure, motion, landmarks, proportions, superficial form, textures, color, and so on.

>1.1 - Perspective

* Norling - Perspective made easy

* Chelsea - Perspective for comic book artists

* Scott Robertson - How to draw

>1.2 - Light and color

* Ted Seth Jacobs - Light for the artist

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I like Ashcorp's panda girl but frankly his music can go kys itself lmoa

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What drawing tablets should I buy? Is there any difference between them?

I'm considering getting this one.

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I was actually hoping they'd make something like that and had mentioned a cheap, larger tablet with no keys as a hypothetical product being something ideal for a beginner. Looks sexy from the picture but I'd have to look more into it



I meant to say, I'd actually want it to be substantially bigger of course. This looks like a Medium size which is okay, but not super desirable.


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M size is the largest in One and Intuos series. Larger tablets are in an entirely different price bracket. I'm new to digital art and I've been advised to start with a M tablet, as S is too small and imprecise and L is too expensive and bulky.

Why do you consider M inadequate? Should I just save up for something bigger and better then, even as a begineer?



I've spoken quite a bit in this very thread why I prefer the large size. Long story short the large is better than the medium for the same reason the medium is better than the small. The difference in price between the two, considering not only the many, many years of use you'll get out of it but its enduring resale value, is well worth it regardless of one's experience level.



Thanks for the explanation. I am now trying to get my hands on a Huion Giano, but nobody is willing to ship it to my hellhole. Might invest into an Intuos Large instead.

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Share your daily struggles and other art-related feels here.

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I wish I had never existed.


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>born with shit life

>only thing that makes me happy is art

>all I want is to be good at art

>don't need money

>don't need fame

>just one fucking thing

>mentally unstable as fuck, can't concentrate when practicing most of the time I break down crying and being frustrated

>getting worse and worse each day

>feel like there's nothing out there that can help me

>tried dozens of meds

>psychologist says ECT is an option (aka my last hope)

>but have a feeling I won't get better

Recently I genuinely get mad when I see a good picture, because the person who drew it must have had a good life and didn't have to go through the shit I did.

I needed to let out some steam


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>Recently I genuinely get mad when I see a good picture, because the person who drew it must have had a good life and didn't have to go through the shit I did.

I know this feel too well.



>Recently I genuinely get mad when I see a good picture, because the person who drew it must have had a good life and didn't have to go through the shit I did.

I don't know. Sometimes I feel like everyone is miserable but they just hide it.


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