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We're All Gonna Make It, Fella

File: 370fbfe5d825d98⋯.png (422.05 KB, 675x488, 675:488, It Seems I Was Mistaken.png)

 No.4920[Reply]

Welcome to /loomis/ !

This board is intended for the discussion of a variety of artistic subjects, with an emphasis on illustration and animation.

If you're looking for books, video lectures and demonstrations on these subjects, please see the /loomis/ resource hub and board rules located at:

http://www.8ch.net/loomis/hub.html

Keep drawing, my friends.

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 No.12687[Reply]

Share your daily struggles and other art-related feels here.

Previous thread:

>>10425

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 No.12719

>>12718

Don't know yet, I may still stick with Eva. Depends on whether or not I can think of a good image.


 No.12727

holy fuck I hate this feeling I have right now from being unable to find the right reference I am not able to breathe


 No.12728

File: 9c40e15d130f191⋯.jpg (83.29 KB, 666x636, 111:106, 9c40e15d130f191f43ee7842ac….jpg)

All I want to draw are things I would never want to show to anyone important to me in real life.

I wish I could make a living creating porn-art fetish stuff.

>>12689

>livelihood

Worse than that, who wants to be a rat in the rat race? Especially when the game was rigged before we were born by the (((fat cats)))?


 No.12739

File: 630c753e5f3a53d⋯.jpg (212.7 KB, 710x886, 355:443, Untitled_Fin_NK.jpg)

>TFW finally get non-photo blue leads for construction lines

Was not expecting them to be as pale as they are or how easy it is to ink or normal pencil final lines over it. Can't believe how long I went without this. Night and day difference in final line quality for me.


 No.12744

Trying to do a profile drawing with a model it came out fine, but the problem is that it barely looks like the model so I don't really know if really call it an ok result for a first time.




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 No.12424[Reply]

Praying for a Nuclear Winter Edition

Previous Thread: >>10455

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 No.12726

File: 67b57b6688b21fb⋯.png (292.59 KB, 650x860, 65:86, Tsunderstorm_650L.png)


 No.12731

>>12724

Man, how do you even bare going on 4chan with all the shit they've been pulling like separating the site and adding accounts? They're a mockery to all imageboards. They betray everything an imageboard stands for.


 No.12738

File: a24afa1bfaf2f29⋯.jpg (35.49 KB, 398x554, 199:277, Capture.JPG)

Drawing something for an art trade, though the guy's other part of the bargain is not met…


 No.12740

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File: 071d4837dd2dc16⋯.png (342.63 KB, 1562x1146, 781:573, Max and incineroar shitpos….png)

hu-HA


 No.12743

>>12731

When you draw weird pervy artwork you by default have no self-respect. 4chan is a great website for people who don't respect themselves or care for quality.




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 No.12028[Reply]

I didn't see one, so I'm starting a QTDDTOT thread.

Is there a board like /loomis/, but for painting?

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 No.12710

File: 38d3763dcb08081⋯.png (271.2 KB, 826x1265, 826:1265, dronezone256.png)

>>12697

His lazy coloring inspired me to do so.


 No.12711

>>12710

I think you exaggerated the laziness quite a bit there.


 No.12721

File: 1e30677901f4841⋯.gif (1.93 MB, 400x300, 4:3, 1e30677901f4841ae700302da7….gif)

>>12698

>You need to learn attractive shapes and proportions and color palettes and how to balance it all

Any books or resources to learn this kind of things?


 No.12741

So i've recently got my first tablet (Wacom intuous medium) and I'm finding that I can't really use my elbow or shoulder when drawing. Any attempt to usually ends up wobbly and generally most lines I make I'm finding I only need my wrist. This seems like an awfully bad habit so I was wondering if the tablet I got was too small (it's about 10 inches) or if I just need to stick at it and be disciplined trying to get used to using my arm on the tablet and making shit lines.


 No.12742

>>12741

you dont need to use your elbow or shoulder on a 10" surface. use your wrist 100% of the time when you can make a line in the range of your wrist's motion. you use your elbow to draw when the distance is too far for a continuous line from the wrist. you use the shoulder when the elbow cant make one continuous motion. you dont draw iwth your shoulder for 1" lines. if you have a canvas or work at a desk with 11x17 boards, etc, you would use longer lines and motion from the elbow would be better in many cases. drawing from the shoulder is something you will rarely ever see done by pros. go watch any live streams of art. they might use elbow when doing gestures or rough lines and free flowing in construction phase, but all go to wrist for the final lines/inks.

drawing from shoulder is a meme. you dont work at sizes that require that and is only something painting really makes use of or certain styles (stuff like ink brush/japanese type shit, etc), which are basically painting, too. you have a 10" surface. you might use your elbow once in a blue moon for a line on it. stop listening to memes about shoulder drawing.




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 No.12411[Reply]

I know this is a stupid question but how well should a 15 year old be drawing?

Could you give me some examples of what most of you were doing when you were 15?

I've been having some really big issues with my self-confidence lately and I want to see if they were justified.

(pic unrelated)

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 No.12531

>>12524

Not really. I like it a lot here. I know people will bring my past up whatever I do if I stay there, it's no big deal. Even on 4chan people are bound to find out eventually if they don't already know.

>>12528

I do too, but he's me, so that opinion is not really worth anything.


 No.12541

Ciirc is still around. nice.

Wonder if iFall (lFall?) still lurks?


 No.12733

>>12541

iFall?


 No.12734

>>12733

iirc he was the guy that drew anime girls getting raped by monsters in the ocean. Also I think he drew a picture of Diogenes getting pestered and chased by anime girls as well. One of the better artists around these parts, but seeing as there's only like 5 of us that isn't saying a hell of a lot I'm afraid.


 No.12737

>>12734

Naw, he has that cute cartoony style I like when he isn't too deep into the loli porn with it.

>>9276

>>9899




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 No.10037[Reply]

-See weekly theme.

-Draw. It doesn’t matter what, or how, as long as it’s related to the theme.

-Post.

-Repeat next week.

Old thread: >>6209

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 No.12684

File: 784e0fe8e7748a0⋯.png (18.77 KB, 600x600, 1:1, week64.png)

Next theme:

CUPID

17th of FEBRUARY

It's the most tfw no gf time of the year.


 No.12696

>>12680

The horror manga where all the adults turn into giant chickens?


 No.12700

>>12696

As far as I remember, only Chicken George is a giant chicken, born from a vat of lab-grown chicken meat. He vows revenge against Humanity for his fate and for ruining the environment.


 No.12732

File: 758eb6f7ecd7a39⋯.png (41.59 KB, 750x750, 1:1, Cupid_750.png)

durrrr


 No.12735

>>12732

← I'm With st'Cupid




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 No.10692[Reply]

A thread for people of all skill levels to dump their works-in-progress and studies

Draw shit. Draw it a lot. Git gud. Maybe

Live Figure Models

http://www.onairvideo.com/photo-archive.html

https://line-of-action.com/

https://www.quickposes.com/en

Random Poses (3D Models)

http://www.posemaniacs.com/

Gesture and Figure Drawing Demonstrations

Glenn Vilppu: https://youtu.be/aOtVUHgJqQk ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0bd0_8onkA

Karl Gnass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw-piPn9d6Q&list=PLUnqAdGfhZZh7y_-tLZkacyShqy8RRpSU ; https://youtu.be/OcHZITz9GM4

Sheldon Borenstein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q19Y-gZIs9M

3-D Anatomical Models

Some select models from Sketchfab, useful for anatomy and perspective study.

Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.12682

File: f4497c48d141935⋯.jpg (3.86 KB, 160x160, 1:1, Rato Confuso.jpg)

Somebody tell me what exactly the point of figure drawing is? It's supposed to teach you to view poses in their most basic forms, right? Is it absolutely essential to progressing, as in "you'll get nowhere without learning it"?


 No.12683

>>12682

Depends on what you want to do, anon.


 No.12685

File: 494319e4c4c207a⋯.jpg (93.81 KB, 900x1306, 450:653, foreshortening_practice ar….jpg)

>>12682

You apply what you were taught and learned to figure drawing. It doesnt teach you anything. It's for practice and muscle memory. With that muscle memory and catalogue of poses you've seen and practiced, you can apply knowledge you learned to construct poses on your own or rotate a pose to capture it from other angles and exaggerate poses and apply your own style.

If you just do figure drawing without actually understanding the poses, construction process, how muscles interact and proportions, you are just going to be reproducing that one image - you arent learning how to draw anything but trial and error on that one image and then back to square one for the next pose.

It's like a golfer going to the driving range. You dont learn anything hitting the ball the same way over and over and randomly slicing or topping the ball. You are just engraining how to do it wrong over and over again because you didnt bother to learn or have someone point out mistakes or just didnt take your time and apply what youve learned. You are just hitting balls.

Thats what figure/gesture drawing is if you dont bother learning things from other steps. You want to apply what youve learned to figure drawing; not learn from doing figure drawings.


 No.12692

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 No.12730

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File: fcfbc7914203cc5⋯.png (291.1 KB, 917x879, 917:879, image6.png)

Okay, so I know I said I was going to study more of figure stuff, but I had to go back on that. I've decided to get down and study values, and rendering. Now to preface, I know that's a rabbit hole for turd polishing, I just want to know it "enough" so that I can really bring out my drawings more.

I was advised to push all the tones I was using further, yesterday, but today I think it's clear I wasn't pushing the mid and light tones enough.

Also brush recommendations.




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 No.7045[Reply]

Animation Thread

↑←↑ edition

Post your animation

Resources:

AMB Animation Academy

https://www.youtube.com/user/eubasaban

Aaron Blaise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgkjrFL398c

Kinovea video file frame-by-frame analysis

https://www.kinovea.org/

Software:

https://krita.org/

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 No.12640

File: b0a5364d00702d0⋯.gif (505.66 KB, 1107x891, 41:33, stepnfetchit.gif)


 No.12648

>>12640

Very nice gondola.


 No.12666

File: 1d9a4b21dcf25d6⋯.webm (5.86 MB, 1600x1200, 4:3, gondola_grave2.webm)

File: c8221d38e074bf3⋯.png (346.04 KB, 1600x1200, 4:3, gondola_stars.png)

I'm not exactly a very good animator, and right now I'm more interested in improving my drawing skills first. But I did make an attempt with one of the gondolas I made a little while ago, webm related. Critique is welcome. The second pic is a work in progress. I want to be able to have a few constellations fade in/out, and the fireflies to move around and blink on/off. Is there a convenient way for me to do this with Krita? I'm not very familiar with the animation tools it offers.


 No.12681

>>12666

It follows the gondola webms' codes, good job Satan.

I could almost see the clouds move.

>Is there a convenient way for me to do this with Krita?

I don't know of anything else than animating the fireflies frame by frame. For the fading there's the tweening you can look into the documentation. Change the workspace to the animation one and fiddle with the controls, you'll learn fast


 No.12729

>>12681

>I could almost see the clouds move.

shit that would have been a very nice touch. It's too bad that krita doesn't have any tweening though. I think photoshop has some more fleshed out animation stuff, so I might look into that instead.




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 No.8514[Reply]

Post images you yourself have used as reference.

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 No.12302

File: ca240f59d04f731⋯.gif (38.39 KB, 322x242, 161:121, 16732BFB-324C-4DB7-87E3-E6….gif)

>>12301

DAAAAAAMN!


 No.12303

>>12301

I thought the same thing. Here's a (you).


 No.12304

>>12302

>can't open .webm

>can't save .pdfs or audio files outside of some proprietary marketplace

>.gifs stop animating after being saved to device

…why the hell are Apple products so popular? Why were they ever? Even my Surface Pro 2 RT I mentioned earlier (which itself has a completely asinine pseudo-windows operating system and can't open half the websites I frequent without shitting itself) is more user friendly in pretty much every conceivable way.


 No.12672

File: ae0fd1ba2de1f34⋯.jpg (30.52 KB, 400x300, 4:3, I NEED PICTURES OF SPIDERM….jpg)

I NEED PICTURES OF MUSCULAR WOMEN'S ABS*

*Not overtly so, just fit chicks


 No.12714

File: 5732c7ef0dae910⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 139.93 KB, 1080x1350, 4:5, a87d0480cafafb642bff5069f2….jpg)

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>>12672

you're in luck. I happened to save one the other day that I saw for the same purpose. Also have a skinny loss muscular model and a bonus.




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 No.10755[Reply]

If you could tell your younger self a couple of things to help learn art quickly and produce better quality, what would they be?

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 No.11063

>>11061

l*terally me


 No.11064

Dont take that 5 yr break away from drawing in your mid 20s….


 No.12176

File: 7d9ca559446370f⋯.jpg (150.91 KB, 500x360, 25:18, 1501009404996.jpg)

>>10755

Tell him to keep his laptop away from his mom so she doesn't break it (haha, whoops I broke it and I'm too poor to replace it and there was a head crash and it had all your stuff for 3D modeling on it, oh you were probably just using it for video games, if you had a job you could buy a new one.) and send him into a depression spiral for almost 10 years, unable to get a proper job and stuck without a computer good enough to render anything.

Like damn, I take care of all my stuff like they're my own children, high-end tech or not and literally every single thing of mine that's ever been broken was broken by someone else. That laptop going under fucked me up good.


 No.12703

>>10755

To not stop out of shame and keep going.


 No.12704

"Everyone around you is a sheeple, understand that every things been planned to go against your very existence, and that your wild ideas are always the best answer." Not only for drawing per say, but building the creative mind that is required.




File: fedea3c7d076c92⋯.png (226.41 KB, 484x379, 484:379, hello myself.png)

 No.12487[Reply]

Has anyone noticed how fucked everything is. There's some serious indoctrination going in the artist community, even here people are seriously blind. The way people are taught are to draw over and over again till they get it right, lose their imagination and their ability to think freely, lose what makes people happy, the controlling class either want you to kill yourself or put you in a wheel of despair that is getting hooked off the dopamine hits off twitter, either way they want to turn you into a docile sheep.

Like of course drawing over and over again will help, but forgetting your imagination, visualization, child like wonder will drain your soul.

People here don't seem to understand why they don't draw, and it's because you don't care about anything, you can't because they've already sucked your dopamine dry with the internet, games, etc. That would otherwise fuel your imagination.

If you look at someone like kim jung gii, his addiction is drawing, but he's still a man with the mind of a child, he draws what he's wants and gets told off, rather than mindlessly obey, that's the reason he's happy and not a soy man child, that wonders why his drawing give him nothing. The reason he's able to do what he wants, is because when someone told him to stop daydreaming, he did it anyway. There's nothing unique to his mind, that's what the controlled media wants you to think. He's just a person that never conformed from his instincts.

You need to understand that you'll never improve as long as your life force is being zapped from your electronics, you can't be happy if you lose your ability to wonder. I hope someone gets black pilled anyway.

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 No.12614

>>12609

I'm not that person, I stopped posting on 4chad 7 years ago when it became just another media brainwashing hub.


 No.12615

>>12487

If you wanna spin conspiracies somewhere, /pol/ seems more your speed. We're just here to draw, bud.


 No.12627

>>12615

/pol/ shouldn't have a monopoly on thinking, understanding is how we can improve ourselves in all ways of life, including that of drawing, and personally I came here to create, drawing is just the tool to do so.


 No.12628

>>12627

Then drawer somefin' instead of flappin' your're gum's figgit.


 No.12638

>>12628

>>12627

A picture is worth about a thousand words after all.




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 No.11486[Reply]

TOWERGIRLS: Draw edition

thread reached bump limit

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 No.12472

File: 4029055fdd1d8e2⋯.jpg (4.86 MB, 2448x3264, 3:4, 20190131_161349.jpg)

Just closed my eyes and chose randomly


 No.12475

>>12472

Noice


 No.12493

Dice rollRolled 75 (1d100)

rollan


 No.12616

Dice rollRolled 1, 3 = 4 (2d6)

roll


 No.12617

Dice rollRolled 6, 4 = 10 (2d9)

>>12616

reroll




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 No.1804[Reply]

What drawing tablets should I buy? Is there any difference between them?

I'm considering getting this one.

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 No.12409

How important is it for a tablet to have a screen? How does a small screen-less tablet work in relation to a larger monitor?


 No.12418

>>12409

I’ve explained that a bit up-thread, if I were on a computer right now I’d probably explain it AGAIN but typing is too laborious for me at the moment, just check out some of the earlier posts and if you have any further questions I’ll try and answer them when I get time.


 No.12525

>>12409

I don't know how it's for the other tablets but I can explain this based on the huion 610pro v2 that I bought recently as my first tablet.

Especially if you never had a tablet you probably have no idea how they work at all like I did.

My concern was that I would be placing my pen tip blindly without a screen but it isn't like that at all. When you hover pen like 2cm above the tablet it already shows on your computer monitor where you are. It isn't hard at all to get used to moving your hand in one space and looking at other. But you need to practice the movement of placing down the pen a little from using wrist rotation to more like a vertical movement so it falls in the place you were hovering it in. And I think it's even better that I don't have screened tablet because I don't obstruct my vision with the pen and hand.

I didn't know how they work either

It doesnt work like a mouse at all, with mouse you have it in one place and by moving it you move it relatively to your current position. Tablets work by making each discernable space (depending on resolution) of it's surface be assigned to a pixel on your monitor. I can't explain it in a simpler way

I have small 1440x900 monitor that happens to be the proportioned the same as my tablet and sensitivity feels good. There is still loads of redundant sensitivity with this configuration and by calculation I could probably use 8k monitor without noticing any loss of sensitivity.

If your monitor isn't proportioned the same as your tablet you just use area of your screen of appropriate proportion that you set up in the driver option so you will leave out maybe one side of the monitor to make 16:9 into 16:10 or something like that.

So there aren't any problems you don't need screened tablet unless you need one more screen. Screened tablets will only give you problems like heating up and shit and are expensive


 No.12526

>>12525

also don't look at number of buttons while looking for tablet. I thought I would use additional buttons for shortcuts but using keyboard is just handier. These additional buttons are probably only useful if you work on a laptop so you don't have to reach over the tablet.


 No.12527

>>12526

there are little remotes you can get too which are way better like clip studio tabmate and so on.




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 No.11729[Reply]

first there were cave paintings, and then shit like hieroglyphs where they got a better handle of proportions, and then there was perspective, and now we've had photorealism for long enough that (((modern "art"))) has been around for a while as a response to conventional art.

i don't think this is the end though. i think it's naive and hubristic to believe that we've reached the pinnacle of what can be done with art from a technical perspective. i'm pretty sure cavement fingerpainting with berry juice tens of thousands of years ago thought the same thing. so what do you think might be the next advancement? maybe there's a human sense that we haven't discovered yet, or maybe it's possible to make images that stimulate your brain so that it makes you hallucinate smells, but the guy who invents that won't be born until 2118

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 No.11774

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>>11766

>>11767

i can 100% tell you niggers don't even know how a DAW works at all

HURRR DIGITAL = INSTANT MAGIC


 No.11775

>>11774

this tbh lad


 No.11776

>>11774

Have you tried both photoshop and a DAW?


 No.11778

>>11776

That's how you end up with a trumpet boy meme.


 No.12473

>>11733

>>11740

Traditional and man-made art will always have a niche. AI or neural networks will never completely take over, as there will always be people who want something unique that was made by a human.

Even today, made to order furniture is a thing. It is just became more of a luxury nowadays. Despite photography's existence, family portraits are a thing too. People pay a lot to have their family or pets painted.




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 No.10425[Reply]

Share your daily struggles and other art-related feels here.

Previous thread:

>>8376

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 No.12639

File: d42549594e61cb2⋯.jpg (79.45 KB, 1300x956, 325:239, a-sleeping-businessman-in-….jpg)

>>12438

Sometimes when you don't get something it's not a bad thing to take a break or sleep it off or do something else for a little while. Your brain is still working and you might get a fresh new perspective on the problem.

t. actually found some answers by sleeping


 No.12656

>>11342

I stopped at the "box ball" lesson and didn't move onto lesson 2, the "contour line" lesson thing. I believe it's also in Rapid Viz, but are there more resources/lessons like it?


 No.12659

>>12639

Your brain moves data from the short term to the long term while you're asleep. Think of it like powering down a computer so it moves its RAM content to its HD.


 No.12686

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>>12621

It's that bad? I found it useful for some things and I feel that it has helped me a little.

Also:

>Bad shit happens to me

>Dont want to draw anything today

>Feel like shit because I am not drawing

Mr. Loomis I want to get off this wild ride.


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