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We're All Gonna Make It Bruh

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Welcome to /loomis/ !

This board is intended for the discussion of a variety of artistic subjects, with an emphasis on fine art, applied art, and animation.

If you're looking for books, video lectures and demonstrations on these subjects, please see the /loomis/ resource hub located at: http://www.8ch.net/loomis/hub.html

Keep drawing, my friends.

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New Friends edition

Old Thread: >>5706

Resource Reminder: https://8ch.net/loomis/hub.html

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>tfw I read it

Why I oughta'!




>Hey, don't sweat it mate.

No, and you can't stop me. Reee

Anyway how's she looking now then?



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rendering in black and white


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>draw individually, then crop and free transform

That's really impractical, but I'll occasionally do that if a pose is giving me a lot of trouble.

What I normally do is, I draw on a small sized thumbnail, scale that up to the full res, sketch on top of it, ink it, color it, and then do "finishing touches" as I call them (shadows, sound effects, and speech bubbles.)

I've got an in depth explanation in the last thread, and at some point I might make a video tutorial, if people are interested enough.

I know my workflow is one that's easily replicable, but I rarely see anyone else go about it this way. And I know it would help basically anyone who's doing a comic, as you can just change time spent on different steps, to suit your art style.


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I was watching this trash a few nights ago, and it just ocurred to me that the lead girl's probably a good example of what we're talking about.

There's still some "anime anatomy" going on here, but like, girls are soft, man.

You really don't need a whole lot to convey a girl is "hard bodied" in a sense. As evidenced by this girl.

She's obviously less than you're aiming for, but I think you get the idea, of just how little you need to convey a girl's "STRONK"

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Do you go or have any plans to go to art school? Which one? Talk about your questions, expectations or experiences here.
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It you like cartoons for like $1,000 you can get in AMB's inner circle on facebook for a year (or for $250 you can get access to his ridiculously huge library of videos). Like his style or not he's definitely a pro and having his ear is definitely worth the $1,000, but for $250 you have close to 200 hours of content (and growing) and get to see him interact with others which is pretty much just as valuable. Combine his character animation with the bitey.com fx course which teaches software and practical effects animation and I don't think there's a better or more affordable 2d animation curriculum out there.



I meant to also say I agree that Ateliers are great, I haven't been to the one I was attending for some time but classes start up in a few weeks and I was thinking of getting back on that horse.


I'm new to /loomis/ but I've always wanted to draw. I finished Betty Edward's book late last year and made it a goal to take a few drawing classes so I signed up to drawing 101 at a local art league. It was cheaper and more convenient than going to a community college and probably will have half of the shitheads. At least that's my hope. They go all the way up to full on live model drawing but I'd like to get my basics down first.



If what you say is true you definitely have the right mindset and work ethic-I think these classes will be a benefit to you. I've campaigned against (((Art School)))s pretty relentlessly on boards like this but coming from an atelier myself I know that having a real teacher is valuable as long as the price is reasonable and their ability is respectable



I'm not, and I had the first session yesterday. Was about what I expected there was everything from an 11th grade homeschooled girl to a gradman, but it seemed most where in their mid to late 20's like me so that was nice. We'll see what happens…

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Share your daily struggles and other art-related feels here.

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Thanks bro. I've already been drawing every day for the past few years because it's fun but unfortunately didn't improve, at least according to people who aren't me – who I'm more inclined to believe than myself. I don't want to give up because drawing is fun but it can be disheartening at times.


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Did we ever have a chance, drawbros? Or was it always too late?


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It's never too late


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Wish that was true.



It's important to look at your drawings and see what could be improved.

I see a lot of artists with good linework and shading but fucking horrible anatomy.

I didn't start getting better at art until my early 20's. I've been drawing since I was 13 but I never tried to get better until then.

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Animation Thread

↑←↑ edition

Post your animation


AMB Animation Academy


Aaron Blaise


Kinovea video file frame-by-frame analysis




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Doing some skinning animation, it's pretty cheap but easy to do and the end result looks pretty nice, perfect for some VN's or porn.



>the end result looks pretty nice

That's debatable, I've always thought that technique made characters look like Jell-O.



I'd like to learn how to do that, it was done very well in Dragon's Crown and was always pretty inspiring.



With that said though you definitely need practice; the motion doesn't look very natural tbh



It's good for the work done for the final result in comparation with normal animation, and you can still preserve the shading and things like that with animation. I still preffer the traditional animation when talking about motion, but when done well, this technology has its value to. The biggest problem is the limitations in relation to normal animation.


I'ts actually pretty simple, you just set a bunch of key frames and the program animate for you, like flash, you can do a lot of different things if you think in the right way;

I experimented with a lot of different programs, like dragon bones and synfing but the best one so far that I found its one called anime effects. That and Spine too, but I could not find a good torrent and it's to expensive for me. The only problem so for with this program in particular is the fact he can't export transparent gifs and has low support for video game engines compared with dragonbones, but if you just gonna use it for small gifs or Ren'py thats no problem. I think this video explains very well how it works using the program:


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Last thread is dead.

So, what do you like to listen while drawing?

I downloaded a few OSTs and ended up settling on Nier Automata's OST.

Comfy songs are really comfy and combat songs are really motivating. The singer's voice is also pretty soothing, even during the boss themes.

It's most of what I've listened to while studying/drawfagging.

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Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.


#1) Screenshot the image and post that instead (I recommend ShareX)

#2) Change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3) Send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ → Check out the Google doc Sticky!! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit

Also, read our own sticky >>4920 and see the /loomis/ resource hub located at: https://www.8ch.net/loomis/hub.html

>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

Previous Threads:

>>4124 ( http://archive.is/xjWu7 )

v v v When you post a study of one of the below images, please quote the corresponding post: v v v

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You have the right idea with what you're doing. However, get some clean office "printer paper" and a clipboard whenever you get the opportunity. You don't really want to get into the habit of allowing that ruled notebook paper to inform your drawing.


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You tried…

Though in all honesty anon, try being confident with your lines and study three dimensional shapes and perspective before doing anything with the human figure

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Long time ago /fur/ used to have weekly threads where everyone drew something based on a theme, with each week having a new theme, and it didn't matter what you drew as long as it was somehow related.

Would you guys be interested of doing something similar? Are there even enough drawfags here to do something like it?

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<I was working on an aqueduct picture too, but I'd rather post a completed pic late than an incomplete pic now

>incomplete pic late




why is there a dick on his neck


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why is there a neck on ur dik



How many subliminal erect penises can we put in our art by accident until we have to accept being gay?


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The trick is to never accept it one way or the other. Even if I was gay I wouldn't be, I don't need a bunch of frickin' faggots trying to touch my pee pee and whatnot. I'm too busy drawing like a child well into my 30s and wishing I was dead to mess around with that sh*t nigga, off top. Gnomesaiyan?

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What's your end goal? What do you hope to be able to accomplish, if anything?
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Is that yours? Is cute



Doesn't really grab my interest. I am not a big fan of capes and other vigilantes (save for old Shadow comics or an odd elseworld/one-shot) and very picky when it comes to art. It also gives off an impression of putting propaganda over the story, which is almost always a mistake.



honestly I came to drawing to fill a hole that I think was in always in my life

I tried to get into at a younger age but my mom pushed me towards a college """career""" so now I'm trying to learn it now.

I want to draw smut for /v/ mostly as it was my home board when I was underager so mostly that



"alt hero"

it could have potential if only it didnt take itself seriously and stuck to just trying to be as "triggering" as possible otherwise its going to come off as preachy and cringy



Finish my comic, and then start a new one.

Keep drawing comics until I'm dead.

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I'm creating a art zine focusing on alternative manga/comic, please check the https://github.com/mtk538/Zine for more info about what we're looking for, themes etc.

Pic rel is Cover page WORK IN PROGRESS


What's your budget


Sounds fun, I'd been wanting to participate in a zine. I've got a few questions that may or may not be relevant due to my inexperience in the subject: do you have submissions already? Are you going to use github to share the final product? What's your posting schedule if you have one (weekly, monthly?…) and how many pages do you expect an issue to be?



none, i just put my free time, which i have plenty.


>do you have submissions already?

Except for photography, MAYBE a short story (the guy haven't spoke to me in a while), and my own short comic, i don't have anything else atm. I admit, it might take a while, especially because zine is manga/comic oriented. Still, its a very fresh idea, not even a week have passed, for now I'm optimistic. And i should mention, that the idea sparked in my mind when browsing lainchan and sushichan; that should explain the themes im aiming at.

>Are you going to use github to share the final product?

Probably not.. i also got a contact from a guy who could host us a small server for zine website, we might just release finished zine there. If he wouldn't be able to host, i think we i can still find something out, like neocities.org maybe?

>What's your posting schedule if you have one (weekly, monthly?…)

Hah, i think its wayyyy to early to say and too early to actually make it a scheduled release, like every month or two. Once a week is out of the question tho, because drawing + putting together a zine, i can't do it in a week.

For now the release dates are just "soon"

It's just too much dependent on submissions, which is something i have no control over, i just try to find the right ppl in the right places.

>and how many pages do you expect an issue to be?

That's also gonna depend on how many and how long the submitted comics gonna be.


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>failing to get dubs on a slow board

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Happy Late Robert E. Lee day, while you are rapping on a 12-inch (((Intel))) MacBook you could be using state of the Art AMDlantic's FarTripper 14 featuring 300 AMD Ryzen 7-1488's, 88TB's of RAM to smoothly run GTA VI Cartel Confederacy, and 30,000+ TB's to store even the highest resolution anime you can possibly find.

Buy today and partake in Capitalism



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It's a tough pill to swallow!

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Eh, /ic has one so let's start one too.

What skill level do I have to be at to start creating my own characters? I want to be at the point where i no longer have to practice the fundamentals constantly and I can improve by making my own things.

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I don't have any tips for a FAG.

In all seriousness, draw skulls, draw from reference and/or trace for practice-try and put yourself inside the artist's head and consider their thought process as you do so..




That's because chin of your characters comes literally to a point. If you want to make them look more realistic, chin has to be at least a little bit dull, or rounded/squared in some way. Fixing the chin is one of the fixes for the "too wide" issue.

>too wide

It's because there is no room for brain. These faces need to be a little bit taller and rounded on the top. You also seem to have no knowledge of how neck connects to the head or just no skill to implement it. Minimalistic nose, tiny ears, and too short eyebrows only make it more apparent.

You need to study anatomy. If heads are something you want to work on, get the Loomis' drawing the head,face, and hands book. However, it assumes that you understand and can implement at least a little bit of perspective, which is also something you need to work on. Pencil/stylus control is another thing you should practice as well.

You can still do stylized stuff, but just try to implement what you have learned from learning to draw realistically.



Well when doing an anatomy study and you want to draw it in light, you better have a model or reference because otherwise you're just relying on what you think you know.

Generally, no, you don't see it. A good trick to do is to search the body part you're interested in plus "bodybuilder" or "anorexic" and you'll see the extremes of what is generally possible with the human body.


Are process videos at all useful to learn from?



Maybe, if they're not sped up. Also, don't expect to get better by simply "watching" like you're Jeb Bush or something. You have to "do" or your going to end up an armchair artist. No one got good at basketball by watching the Harlem Globetrotters beat the Generals over and over again. You've gotta squad up and hit the court my dude.

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I started to notice that a lot of artists are left handed. To the point where most of the video tutorials I have saved on my hard drive, most of the time it's a lefty artist.

Is there a correlation between left handed people and drawing ability?

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left handedness is the symptom of a degenerate mind.


right handedness is a symptom of a good sheep consumer. left handedness is a symptom of god given creation. stay jelly friend


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>using your hands



me the abandoned croc


I don't know, but this reminds me the only person I know who draws well is actually left handed.

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OC art from other boards on 8chan. If you happen to see a cool piece of 8chan-themed art post it here
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According to pieced together lore and wild assumptions, the original /tg/-tan, a scruffy neckbeard, did not survive the exodus to 8chan quite as well as /v/ did, so he rebuilt himself as a techno-lich of some kind. The flaming hat is likely the burning fires of autismal creativity, and the coat apparently contains some kind of hellish conglomeration of souls. Presumably representing the various legendary stories, characters, and events that have transpired on the old /tg/.


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>the various legendary stories, characters, and events that have transpired on the old /tg/.

Miko RIP



That sounds like a good metaphor for many things.



retarded nazi shit.

pose Looks a bit stiff

colours look messy


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Anons (OC) from /b/ advocating for /nofap/

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Post books, infographs, anything you have.

My collection of infographs, taken mostly from chans. (somewhat organized)


I also have 8GB of books and 20GB of videos but I still need to delete duplicates and organize the videos, so I'll post them later.

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I could create a torrent but i need to pay real money for a Seedbox to speed up the torrent.


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anyone got "Fun with a pencil" and other loomis books?

i'm poor please help



They're in the resource hub/pinned thread dude


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