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Welcome to /loomis/ !

This board is intended for the discussion of a variety of artistic subjects, with an emphasis on illustration and animation.

If you're looking for books, video lectures and demonstrations on these subjects, please see the /loomis/ resource hub and board rules located at:


Keep drawing, my friends.

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-See weekly theme.

-Draw. It doesn’t matter what, or how, as long as it’s related to the theme.


-Repeat next week.

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Next theme:


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Hey Anon Every day Tower girl here.

I would like to ask some serious questions and help here.

I'm really starting to get frustrated and unhappy with the Drawing that I am doing theses days and I don't really know the reason why.

every figure drawing that I do looks like trash and I don't see myself improving at all.

Everything just don't look good so I decided to return to the basics and start over again.

I'm using nsio's Learning order guide and I want to know what level I am at from you guys opinion because to be honest I just don't know myself.

I would like to eventually draw like nakayama tooru (character designer for the MegaMan Zero games) but I feel like I'm never going to reach it because every time I draw seriously I just end up hating it halfway through the process.

It's gotten to the point where it is difficult to just start drawing anything, and I don't want to give up but when I see the drawing I've posted over the past few days I think to myself WOW now that's a piece of shit right there.

And I don't know what to do, I don't know how I can fix it, I don't know what kind of questions that I should be asking to make it better.

Sorry for the long rant Anons it probably doesn't make any sense.

TL;DR: what level on Nsio's learning order do you think I'm on, and I have no idea what I am doing wrong or how to fix it.



I'd say probably between 0 and 1. You don't have the most importing thing about drawing, the ability to see in 3D.

You can see it in your second pic, your basic shapes are pretty good, but when it gets to more complex forms it all goes to shit.

Unfortunately I can't give you any advice I know will work because I have the exact same problem, but I'd say try simplifying stuff further. Say you were going to draw a hand, first draw a box with perspective, then use basic forms for the landmarks, then do the same for the fingers and only then trace over it to draw the hand.

Didn't draw for a week and both the tablet and the stylus ran out of battery, so I can't explain it with a drawing.



The detail of your drawing are too limited. It needs more depth especially when you drawing the head of the character. Also, it seem like you were struggling at getting good consistency at drawing the hands. Why is that? You need the ability to see flaws in your drawing. Take a closer look after you finished drawing and fix them If you find anything wrong with it. There were few times when the hands of your character looks alright but the rest of it looks disproportionate and flat. Some of the fingers were either short of missing.



thank you anon now that I know what level that I am on I guess I know where to start again. (despite me drawing for over 2 years.) I would love it if you could give me some books suggestions or any videos to get me started.


Anon please if I knew how to do that I wouldn't be in this situation in the first place. the problem that I am having is that I see all the flaws and I have no idea on how to fix them. everything looks bad and it's not just one or two thing that stands out I mean Every thing.

And now that I know what level that I am I am going to stop drawing the towergirls now because I can't do it well enough or at the right level form my point of view.


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A thread for people of all skill levels to dump their works-in-progress and studies

Draw shit. Draw it a lot. Git gud. Maybe

Live Figure Models




Random Poses (3D Models)


Gesture and Figure Drawing Demonstrations

Glenn Vilppu: https://youtu.be/aOtVUHgJqQk ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0bd0_8onkA

Karl Gnass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw-piPn9d6Q&list=PLUnqAdGfhZZh7y_-tLZkacyShqy8RRpSU ; https://youtu.be/OcHZITz9GM4

Sheldon Borenstein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q19Y-gZIs9M

3-D Anatomical Models

Some select models from Sketchfab, useful for anatomy and perspective study.

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Good. However, IIRC one of your primary weaknesses at the moment is faces; I’d suggest studying skulls, doing portraits and generally attacking that problem soon


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alright, lets get back in.


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Faces and facial expressions, gesture, and proportions are my main weaknesses, yes. My goal is to draw comics but I need to learn so much it's overwhelming. Perspective, people interacting with each other, types of bodies (old and young, fat and skinny, etc.), so many things. I'll probably die before I draw a single page.


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I am trying to follow the video

does this look like I am understanding what he is saying?

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Share your daily struggles and other art-related feels here.

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To any kids out there: Just fucking skip collage or university. Not just art, anything, just skip that shit, you will regret it and everyone around you will regret it if you go. Take up private lesson or just join x preparation or license lessons for what you want to do.

Just don't go to uni.



Seems like you just don't understand/remember stuff.

Try drawing from life, maybe you'll remember how to draw.



Old stuff is fantastic. If you could do that before, you can learn to do it again. Believe in yourself and you will still never pay off your debts from doing a pointless course at university.


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I feel like you're comparing work you've made with a model (the old work) and work you've made from imagination (new work).

Try comparing the same kind instead (old art from imagination vs new art from imagination or old art from model vs new art from model).


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I've noticed I get so tense and concentrated when I draw that I mimic each stroke by clenching my teeth. I'm not even particularly full of rage but it's like I'm physically carving shapes on my tablet with great effort.

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Lucky Numbers edition

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everyone knows gondolas are like tardigrades, they survive in every environment


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It's an idea that popped into my head to make me draw something. Sadly I can't draw snow. Or butts, legs, backs, hair, or anything. Smdh.



Don't draw snow, draw what's around it.


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I need a bit of help improving the pose of this WIP. Sketch is done, but the lines and the coloring are gonna be my next step.



The sketch should determine the pose. That other stuff is refining your image but essentially unrelated. If you want to improve the pose then consider hashing out a few more loose sketches and then picking your favorite, otherwise if you’re set on that then move on to the lines etc.

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What are some artists you look up to?

Do you just like their art or the subject as well?

Starting out with Arata Yokoyama.

He mostly does these rough painting looking art, though sometimes he spends time refining them more to create cleaner paintings.

90% of what he paints is casual cute girls doing casual cute girl things, which is something I aspire to paint, so there's that.

There are better artist I like like Dalí and Beksiński, but they're pretty well known here, so I'm going to stick to more unknown ones to show people new artists. Feel free to post well known artists though.

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Makimura Shunsuke's style is pretty good.


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Not really a direct inspiration, but this guy (or girl) really fascinates me, his drawings seem to follow a really confusing sequential narrative and for the past 3-4 years he's been drawing only minimalist surreal forms. Pic related are drawings when he got popular.


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Scottie Young is bae

Love pretty much everything about his art, hes the goal artist for me.


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TD-Vice AKA. Torture-Device | Kriegsmachine14

Fa/tg/uys are sure to know him.

He mostly does Warhams40k and some OC.

Dude was active in devart back in 2010s before he bulk erased his galleries.

I really like the way he does colors and texture. His linearts are likewise over the top.

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Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.


Pick a reference image from:

Bargue Drawing Course (https://ia601200.us.archive.org/14/items/C.BargueDrawingCourse/C.%20Bargue%20-%20Drawing%20Course.pdf), Croquis Cafe (http://www.onairvideo.com/photo-archive.html), or images.google.com to find something you want to draw-just make sure to post your picture reference alongside your work

See 4chan /ic/'s unofficial sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit

and the /loomis/ Resource Hub for more information

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It took me some time since I do not have that much spare time nowadays but I tried to improve "manga" from >>10740

I applied some of the suggestions that you proposed and this is the effect. I would appreciate any feedback.

I would also appreciate two things:

1. Does anyone have any good tutorial on how to draw faces in 3/4 view? I looked through many of them online and offline but I couldn't find any that would be sufficient for me.

2. How does one draw backgrounds? Take for example page 8, first panel. I have no idea how to draw the background. And I am not talking about the horrible perspective. When I draw the background, it stands out too much and if I use thinner lines, it looks terrible instead. I provided also a version without any background if anyone was kind enough to show me what the background would ideally look like.


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I'll definitely give them a once-over when I have time. My first impression is that indeed you've improved them to a degree but, much as you'd admitted, you are struggling with 3/4 view faces in particular. At any rate, keep it up bubbi, it's nice to see you trying.



The faces are way better now, as is the composition, almost looks like an amateur mango.

I'd recommend focusing on body anatomy and cloth now.


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>1. Does anyone have any good tutorial on how to draw faces in 3/4 view?

If you can see the contour of a face, you should able to draw it without a problem. The position of an eye that looks away from POV are narrower than the one that's near. it's all related to perspective and the proportion of a face.

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Tumblr is banning adult content soon, even if that's not your thing maybe consider making a Newgrounds account for old time's sake like many people are doing out of solidarity with our degenerate brothers and sisters. It'll never be as big as Twitter or something like that, but there isn't that compelling of a reason not to have one considering how cozy it remains to be.

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I think that pretty much covers everything viable, dude




They ban lewds of "child-looking characters" and controversial stuff at random, but it's decent if you want a place to post your more "normal" art.

It's good if you want multiple file types, but the site itself isn't made with pictures in mind.


Comunity degeneracy apart, it's a pretty good site, layout-wise. Though I don't think they allow anything other than pictures.


I've heard it was pretty good. It's more focused on being a portfolio site, so it's more professional than usual.


Nip/weeb site for the most part. You need an account to browse properly though, so it's not that good for people from outside the site to find your art(unless it ends up in boorus and whatnot).

It does support a lot of formats though, even ugoira, which is a sort of gif but with jpeg images.


Social media at first, image posting at second.

It's good to post a picture to show people your work, but not as a database of your art, in that regard it's even worse than newgrounds.


There's a community, but that community may be leaving. It's still decent if you're just going to post SFW content, but I wouldn't keep it as my only site.


Pretty nice layout, but you can't browse properly without an account, so you might not get as much popularity from outside the site. Also doesn't support anything other than pictures form what I remember.



DA also allows Flash, but it's a dying art.


That the purge was prompted by Tumblr's poor moderation and inability to curb actual cheese pizza on their site has me wondering\ how the fuck they even functioned since the Yahoo buyout. Even their flagging algorithm is fucked.



>That the purge was prompted by Tumblr's poor moderation and inability to curb actual cheese pizza

That's just an excuse, they're doing it for cash money like halfchan. Even the apple store banned them for having porn and every other site has been cracking down on non-kosher content, so they felt they had to catch up.

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You have 24 hours to submit a subject more worthy of artistic study than Boltman.

Pro tip: You can't.
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Tried drawing from memory while in class.



Considering you weren't looking at a reference I'm extremely impressed. Good job, man! Keep it up.


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You can't see it, but you've grown so much stronger for even trying.



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> "I want to be an artist too and make something like this!"

What was the animation, comic, manga, whatever that made you say this to yourself?

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It wasn't media, it was my older brother being into drawing.



Real wholesome hours


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What a feel. Mine is a tattoo artist now.


When I was a small child, my grandparents and I would catch this show, I think it was called Pappy Drew It or something, where we would follow along the instructions and draw pictures. My grandparents always encouraged my drawing, buying me crayons and pads of paper.


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The Picasso meme that everyone is an artist as a child is true. I don't think there was any one thing that made me think "I'll be an artist". I'm not, and have no real desire to be, a professional artist. But I never lacked encouragement, materials, ideas since my dad was a professional painter and messed around with other stuff like stop motion animation, which he taught me. Drawing was probably the only thing I had more of a knack for than anyone at school, so keeping hold of that little bit of social capital was motivation, plus I always enjoyed the process of drawing. Smh I fell out of practice (but didn't consciously quit) because of "adult" things getting in the way and only started grinding back mostly what I'd lost again recently.


Made me remember art attack. Top comfy kids tv.

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>tfw no Krita gf


I can't believe this program is free; it's improved so much since its first release as far as stability's concerned, too. Some dude's even working on an animation plugin for it. Does anyone know any legit non-Toon Boom or Flash animation software in the interim? So far I've tried Synfig Studio and Pencil2D and they were both unimaginably shitty.
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You did a fine job lad, no worries. One thing we could always use is a pair of fresh eyes after a long drawing or study. I once drew a character with six fingers, a subtle mistake in an angle or curve here or there hardly compares to something like THAT. Keep it up


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>finally get around to using the 'colorize mask' tool they just released in 4.0.0

>It's actually really nice to have what's practically a paint bucket that doesn't care that you have such sketchy lines

>see this little pallet in the corner, think 'oh cool, I can change up the colors later if I want them a little darker/lighter'

>nope, just selection, or delete

>If you want to make an area lighter/darker, need to delete that color and redraw over all the areas you want that color


other than that and it not deciding on where it wants to save stuff, I really like this program.


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>fundraiser ends

>allows developer to work full time and make more progress than ever!

>not a peep in 2 months now


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>fundraiser ends

>one of the news updates was something about the team taking a vacation. No, not a break, like literally leaving the country

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Animation Thread

↑←↑ edition

Post your animation


AMB Animation Academy


Aaron Blaise


Kinovea video file frame-by-frame analysis




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I think I see what you're saying; you mean more the orientation of the head of the pendulum than its position right? Or perhaps I misundestood


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I think a big problem with the previous attempts was the low resolution and the big brush I was using, it makes slowing-in to the degree required of this test basically impossible.


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If you guys want a basic animation tool, try Pivot Animator. It's a very barebones tool, but you can use it to learn about 2D animation and you have potential to make some great stuff. Personally if you're starting out making 2D animation I'd recommend it you can learn more about the fundamentals and how to make a smooth motion as it takes a helluva lot less time to animate since you're pivoting stickfigures rather than drawing from scratch.

You can find all the crazy shit people made by looking up "darkdemon" or "droidz"; both of those websites have dedicated forums specifically for people showing their animations as well as tutorials. There's also a bunch of collaboration videos on YouTube you can find.

I'm gonna share some very, very basic stuff that I made that're primarily me practicing "easing" I don't know what the actual term is, but it means starting slow, then gradually moving faster to make the animation more smooth.. Stuff like the floppy arm helps emulate "physics". If anybody's still here any of you want, I can post some of the things that I learned from this though to be honest I've never made any crazy shit, I just dicked around with this program so much as a child and tween that everything I learned is ingrained into my memory. So ingrained in fact that this is the shit I made after a 5-year gap.

Having dabbled in 2D animation years ago but not seriously getting invested, I know that a lot of what I learned does transfer over.




Post away. I’ve always been here but for various circumstances I haven’t uploaded anything to this board for like months ;-;


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If you have it downloaded, you can view what I did with this one to see how I made it smooth, as well as if you can notice some of the mistakes I made in it. I animate in 24fps, so set it to that.


I'm bad at explaining stuff, but I'll try my best

I'm sure you already know this,but one of the basic foundations for animation is something called "ease-in ease-out", basically meaning that you want to move your object slow at first, then gradually start accelerating it. The easiest example is that ball gif I posted. No matter what you're animating, that's something that'll always be applicable.

I'm kinda drawing a blank when talking about this stuff, as I mostly learned shit by just constantly animating rather than reading or watching how to better.

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Things like these shouldn't make me mad, but they do.

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You certainly don't need an arts degree to see how fucked that is.



It helps to have a fetish for bizarre anatomy.



You know the old saying, "Learn all the rules, then break them at your leisure". Or something like that.


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My fetishes are giganticism and compound fractures.



I know what you are getting at.

The thing with hentai is that you lose the "cool, wacky, artistic, authentic" vibe the stronger the fanservice gets.

It is hard to carry authentic style over to sexuality and as soon as the sexuality stands alone, the only thing that keeps up the suspension of disbelief at that point is realism. When at that point boobs look like balloons and the vulva is misplaced, I just massively cringe.

At such a point, there is no message to be carried over. There is only the sexuality, and it is carried bad. Someone wants to convey not a message, but an accurate erotic depiction then, and honestly failed. It's actually sad.

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Attention Samsung Note users!!! Those seeking some great art apps here is a capture of recommendations. Works with any android but i recommend s pen beacause of pressure sensors.

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I use autodesk sketchbook. It's pretty alright in my opinion.




>idk how to explain

Open source doodling app that has the following features:

>muh symmetry

>pain with sound

>tons of abstract shit


>Making Facial Expressions Pro


>Easy Poser

>your apps used for background design

>What To Draw




I'd mainly recommend easy poser, though its freemium. It is a one time pay. Outside of extras



Is RoughAnimator worth the five bucks? I'm still very lightly interested in animation and am in a bit of a chicken and the egg situation. Where buying/learning programs is too much of a bother until I get more interested, but I won't know until I start, etc.

Adding that Procreate is a pretty good mobile drawing app, and CSP is mobile now too, with Photoshop coming soon. (iOS though, unsure with Android.)


Do people actually make pixel art on their phones? Why do they hate themselves so much?

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