/g/ - Technology

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Zenmate
https://zenmate.com/

Cryptostorm

https://cryptostorm.is/

>>1423
I've got a lot of people in my irc who use cryptostorm, and a lot who use mullvad also. Seems breddy gud.

>>1424
Use it with openVPN

good free vpn like froot?

what about
vpngate
bartvpn
gizlen vpn

>>1418
PIA - one of the fastest and got the TF thumbs up.

I don't bother paying with BC, I reckon if they were tracking what I do anyway they have my real IP.

Nice thing about PIA is they use shared IP addresses. Not so nice when that IP gets a ban but a good blanket of deniability.

I'd like to get a bit more tech-savvy, /g/. What is the point of a VPN? Purely to hide your IP? When specifically would one want to do that? To avoid bans, edit wikipedia anonymously and stop Hotwheels' staff seeing where you live?

Is there any reason one wouldn't want a VPN? Can sites tell? I know 4chan bans you for using them, but do they know which IPs are part of a VPN like they do with open proxies, or are you safe if you stay quiet?

What are the benefits of paid VPNs over the free ones ITT?

>>1441
I will do my best anon.

>What is the point of a VPN?
To relay encrypted traffic between your and another machine acting as a gateway to the internet.

>Purely to hide your IP?
No

>When specifically would one want to do that?
All the time preferably

>To avoid bans, edit wikipedia anonymously and stop Hotwheels' staff seeing where you live?
That and considerably more, except avoiding bans.

>Is there any reason one wouldn't want a VPN?
They can slow down your connection

>Can sites tell?
If they want to. Most proxy and VPN IP addresses are on massive lists which many sites use for blocking.

>What are the benefits of paid VPNs over the free ones ITT?
Free ones are slow as shit and most likely honey pots.

I'm on my second year of using Private Internet Access. First saw it advertised on halfchan and they seemed to be in the right place with their stated policies. They pretty much tell you that they won't hand anything over to the police (because they don't keep anything to hand over).

Is there any reason people would prefer Froot over PIA? The fact that they're supported by TPB is a pretty good sign.

Anyone try AirVPN or vpn.ac?

PIA is huge and they're based in the US and don't provide a warrant canary so I would assume because of their scale that they've received gag orders and such or maybe even cooperate with da gubbermint.

They also don't support anything other than Blowfish with SHA1 in GNU+Linux or BSD using native OpenVPN. Myself and multiple other people have tried using OpenVPN from the command line and from Network Manager and can only connect using Blowfish/SHA1. When myself and other people have asked they say they don't know why it doesn't work and that they couldn't assist in getting other ciphers/hashes working unless we used their official GNU+Linux client which is bloated and their install only supports debian based distributions. I asked them if they could assist me in getting plain OpenVPN to work with other ciphers and such and they were like, sorry, we only provide support for Ubuntu.

They claim they keep no logs when they limit the amount of devices you can connect to simultaneously to 5. AirVPN and vpn.ac admit that they keep logs for a short time and describe what they log and how long they keep them (1 day max in both cases). Most other providers claim they don't keep any logs which is a lie. You can't limit the amount of logins an account can have to limit bandwidth usage without keeping logs. You also can't run a VPN service with tens or hundreds of servers and not have any performance or reliability issues without keeping any logs, even if they're only stored in memory and deleted after 5 minutes. I think any provider who claims to keep no logs is full of it and I'm more willing to trust a company who is transparent and doesn't make impossible claims.

PIA doesn't do this, but some providers say with their service you're 100% anonymous and private guaranteed, no one will be able to track you which is bullshit and you shouldn't trust anyone who makes claims like that as they're either overconfident or outright lying.

So yeah, anyone have experience with AirVPN or vpn.ac or have any other suggestions? I'm looking to switch soon.

>>1499

You also shouldn't trust any a provider who uses Google analytics, DoubleClick or any other third party advertising and tracking companies on their website which a lot of them do. Pwiki analytics are fine because they're self hosted.

A lot of providers also claim to not keep logs or identifying information, but they keep your billing information on file for auto-renewing subscriptions or retain emails and support tickets after an issue has been closed. Some providers also retain website access logs for much longer than they should or don't provide any information on the subject at all (which means they probably keep them for a long time)

>>1500

One more thing and then I'm done nagging on PIA.

The SSL they use on their website is bad, just bad. They aren't using Perfect Forward Secrecy, they only use SHA1 for HMAC authentication which is subpar by todays standards. They could use ECDHE instead of RSA and GCM instead of CBC for the block cipher which would make the encryption much stronger, but AES-CBC with 2048-bit RSA is still secure. The main thing is the lack of Perfect Forward Secrecy and SHA1 which is pathetic for a VPN provider who should be taking encryption seriously.

When a chan or some random wordpress blog that doesn't even have 100 followers is using better encryption that a multi-million dollar VPN provider who claims to take it's users' security and privacy seriously you know something is wrong.

>>1418
I'm using my own VPS from Russia with PPTP and OpenVPN.

>>1509
Dual tunneled or something? If so why and how do you have it set up? PPTP over OpenVPN or the other way around?

I guess if all someone saw on the outside was PPTP then they might not give your traffic much attention because it'd look like you weren't putting in much effort to protect anything of value (or maybe they might give it more attention because they'd think it'd be fairly easy to break). Gimme the deets good sir.

are there any "good" free ones? like ones that work well when torrenting etc?

honestly I just use HMA for ban evasion in video games (tons of ips and locations, fast, ok price) and openvpn with my vps for everything else.

>>1893
what kinda gayums ?

None.

>>1448
im not
>>1441
but i am also confused.

vpn's are encrypted 'tunnels' to networks, so is the vpn used to get to a network or is it just used to get to a proxy? you make it sound as though you're just using a secure proxy.

thanks

>>1973
yes

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