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Windows 7 is coming to an end.

Extended support for windows 7 ends on January 14th 2020 whilst security updates will end for professional and enterprise editions in January 2023. The end of an era is nearing us gentlemen, spend these last years with windows 7 wisely.

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Blackberry Passport


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Paranoid Anons /g/ Guide V.2

Dumping massive /g/ guide and redpill


following these instructions may severely break your computer and firefox and may ruin your privacy and your entire life.

do any of these things at your own risk.

I am not responsible for anything bad that happens to you.

Some of these things DO mess up your ability to use 8chan and screw up the way the site functions so pick and choose carefully, use saves/different profiles or something.

This may void your warranty.

Ask a professional and the mozilla team before doing anything.

You have been warned.

first open about:config

to protect against SSLv3 exploit you can use the mozilla addon "SSL version control"

or set security.tls.version.min = 1 in about:config for Mozilla Firefox.

To restore change the value back to the security.tls.version.min = 0. That's it.

In Mozilla Thunderbird you can set it also in about:config, which You can find in: Tools → Options → Advanced → General → Config Editor.

Always use a firefox fork that gets regular good security updates. never use a main distribution. the underdogs are your friends.

remember to explore "about:permissions" as well.

(search these so they come up)

network.http.pipelining TRUE

network.http.pipelining.ssl TRUE

network.http.proxy.pipelining TRUE

network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy Right click, select modify, set it to 8-10

network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server set it to 8-10 too

network.http.max-connections-per-server set it to 16

network.http.pipelining.maxrequests also set to be 8

network.http.redirection-limit Set to 3

network.dns.disableIPv6 Set to true

network.http.fast-fallback-to-IPv4 Set to false

dom.popup_maximum set to 3

network.prefetch-next FALSE (disables prefetching)

network.dns.disablePrefetch TRUE (extra layer of telling fox to not prefetch)


icecat/palemoon/seamonkey/iceweasel/ are FORKS! don't use google chrome or other junk browsers!

disable google geolocation and reporting:

dwhelper.social-share.service.google.enabled FALSE

dwhelper.social-share.service.google_buzz.enabled FALSE

geo.enabled FALSE

geo.wifi.logging.enabled FALSE

geo.wifi.uri (delete the value)

browser.safebrowsing.appRepURL (delete the value)

browser.safebrowsing.debug FALSE

browser.safebrowsing.enabled FALSE

browser.safebrowsing.gethashURL (delete the value)

browser.safebrowsing.malware.enabled FALSE

browser.safebrowsing.malware.reportURL (delete the value)

browser.safebrowsing.reportURL (delete the value)

browser.safebrowsing.updateURL (delete the value)

services.sync.prefs.sync.browser.safebrowsing.enabled FALSE

services.sync.prefs.sync.browser.safebrowsing.malware.enabled FALSE

(take a break here and read how to fix the internet for everyone)

- install TOR software on EVERY router, complete unfiltered

- force EVERYONE to use PGP, no exceptions

- forbid non open source software in essential parts of using the internet (webbrowser, mail client...)

- build a company which is only there for pen-testing, if something is found, they have to call/mail the website owner and inform him

- build a company which is completly transparent, the only thing they do is build network hardware, everyone has the right to look into their files/production processes to verify there are no backdoors in the hardware

- same for computer manufacturers

- ISPs are forbidden to give "middle traffic speed", but they have to give you a minimum traffic speed for every time

(break is done, keep on going!)

media.peerconnection.enabled FALSE

browser.search.suggest.enabled DISABLE IT

Turn off the new tab page, and makes it about:blank:

browser.newtab.url => about:blank

Turn off file virus-scan after download:

browser.download.manager.scanWhenDone => false

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The bootes void looks like the gentoo icon

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god-tier websites

Useful or otherwise noteworthy websites

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How essential is this for building a computer

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Where can I get a WIndows 7 Professional product key for free (or cheap, at least)? It's the only OS I have access to at the moment and being reminded that the software isn't genuine every time I open an image or the control panel is really irritating. Now I wish I got Windows 10 while it was free.

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I wonder, what is moot doing at google now?

from wiki:

>On March 7, 2016, Poole announced that he had been employed by Google at a yet-to-be disclosed position.[30]

from his blog 2 years ago

>My next chapter

>Today I’m excited to announce that I’ve joined Google.

>When meeting with current and former Googlers, I continually find myself drawn to their intelligence, passion, and enthusiasm — as well as a universal desire to share it with others. I’m also impressed by Google’s commitment to enabling these same talented people to tackle some of the world’s most interesting and important problems.

>I can’t wait to contribute my own experience from a dozen years of building online communities, and to begin the next chapter of my career at such an incredible company.

Trying to stand up for privacy where it counts?

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What are some minor things that people do that piss you off… Nothing PC-breaking or serious long term damage, just minor stuff like looking up Google with Google
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Pug: niggerlicious voodoo or not?

Hey guys, I’m switching over from PHP to NodeJS and I gotta say, this is all pretty gay how it requires 4 dependencies to do anything.

Anyway I was wondering if it would be stupid to spec into only using ejs for the “viewing engine”. Pug looks like too much voodoo for a white man such as myself.

A white man writes his code in its native language.

Node oldfags, can I get away with doing this?

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pro/g/ramming exercise thread

>you roll it

>you code it

>you post it

Time to get fit. Any language you prefer. No re-rolls boys.

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Help pls

Hey, guys, i changed the RAM of my laptop recently and since i been having this disturbances when i watch a video anywhere but saved files, please help what's wrong with my lap?

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diff checker

What is a good tool for viewing the differences between files?

Must be easy to use and multi platform, unlike winmerge.

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>create new file in VS project

>write several interfaces and classes

>save several times

>Windows 10 updates itself while I'm not looking at it for a few minutes

>when it starts back up it asks me if I would you like to recover your files in this project

>hit no because I saved several times and worried this might corrupt the project

>the file is fucking gone

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Hey, /g/. NordVPN is really cheap right now. Do they keep your logs?

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/progsocks/ general

Who /programmingsocks/ here? They are truly the most comfy programming tool around. Nothing is better than staying awake until 4 A.M. in nothing but programming socks and a man-skirt and feeling chills from sleep deprivation, wishing for a heterosexual bf all night to cuddle with so you can warm up with him. Who else knows this pleasure? Pic related, it's me.

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Your favourite streaming sites for movies/series

Tell us which ones and what they offer.

Pic unrelated

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This extension auto-solves Googles captchas using googles OWN speech detection recognition software.


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I cannot express how much I like programming socks.

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General questions thread

Have a question, might as well make it a general thread.


Is it possible a open source and proprietary license? Any examples?

Also unrelated: please change the boards theme to blue; this one suggests NSFW.

(Post didn't go so resending, excuse me if maybe it's a double post.)

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sup niggers, just came from old /g/ on 4ch because hiro is a fag so i decided to try 8ch

you guys are fucking degenerates

signed, TyroneMcNiggerman

P.S. install gentoo

P.S. programming socks are gay

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I've been running a Tor exit relay for about a year now and am pushing several terabytes of data a month. I recently decided that I want to contribute even more to censorship free Internet projects so I have been looking in to things like decentralized VPNs which then brought me to thinks like I2P, CJDNS, Hyperboria, etc. Honestly I think I'm in a little over my head here. Anyway, money really isn't too much of a concern for me and I have a powerful VPS sitting here not doing anything. How can I best put this guy to use to benefit the dark net?

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Was there ever a reason to use Windows?

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Post your current desktop, I'll go first. Taken with an external camera for added aesthetic value.

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The Future Machine

It is 2020.

Dell has released the Latitude 2060-1, it has a lot of power for a small price of $999.

Here is a list of it's built in features...

>No Power Button. A man at Dell HQ operates a camera and turns the computer on when he senses you looking at the computer.

>No USB. All usb drives can get connected through bluetooth and must be intercepted by the ADL for hateful content.

>Camera Blackout Fees. In order to have 15 minutes without the camera on you, you would need to pay $65 to Dell along with a picture of your social security card and drivers license. You also need to upload a screenshot every minute to the Dell Live HQ chat.

>Internet Access Fees. To get online, you would need to pay a monthly fee onto of the bill you get in the mail from your internet provider.

>Automated OS upgrades. To prevent you from installing Linux/GNU or MacOS, Windows 11 automatically updates itself. If you disobey, a Dell representative will connect to your PC and reinstall Windows 11 and your apps.

The future is bright my friends!

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/dpt/ - Daily Programming Thread

Banned from 4chan edition.

What are you working on /g/?

I just finished adventofcode 2017.

Now going through the suffering of building python.

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WTF Is Up With This Laptop

So my gf has a Windows 10 netbook, ridiculous OS design if I ever saw one. She uses it for college work, and its just slow as fuck.

Like it defrags monthly, and I've cleared everything using unnecessary memory. Anything else I can do?

>inb4 ditch Windows faggot, I know. Been trying to get her into Linux for a while now

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Alternative browsers?

Why the browsers performance have been shit by the past year or so?

They used to work just fine.

The moment i install Firefox (Clean) performance goes to ground same for Chrome.

In a poorly optimized kind of way. Also adblockers just won't work.

Opera works like silk but compatibility is very low unless i install the chrome hack.

As you can see i'm a /g/ newfag.

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What does /g/ think about Linus Torvalds?

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hey guys I have some photos that NOBODY MAY EVER SEE where can I hide them?

I personally need to look at them about once a week so I can't bury them or anything but NOBODY ELSE CAN EVER LOOK AT THEM or terrible things will happen to me.

what can I do?

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How many of my people here /BSD/?

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Dijkstra's algorithm

I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around this. The way I understand it, I'm building a tree graph where each node's parent is the adjacent node with the smallest number of steps back to the origin. The tree represents a vector field that plots the shortest course back to origin from every node. Yet in this diagram from the wikipedia article some nodes have two parents.

Is this diagram wrong or am I not understanding something?

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The problem of DEs/WMs

>GNOME is infested with SJW shit (Outreach for Women project is bankrupting GNOME)
>KDE is unpolished and still has this semantic desktop core that balloons into 512 GB of RAM use
>Unity is going through its 7th rewrite, God knows if they're using QML or libNux or Whatever this time
>XFCE is practically in life support mode
>MATE is doomed to be obsolete
>LXDE is awkwardly in an incomplete phase changing to Qt
>Cinnamon is just Gnome Shell (with its share of memory leaks in a fucking DE) with some Brazillian extensions bolted on
>Pantheon is a pretty but useless joke
>Enlightenment is useless in real life
>Openbox is written by a fucking feminist who wants LKML to be more "female friendly"; its configuration is also in XML
>Other *box are basically dead because all the *box hipsters have migrated to Openbox
>Tiling WMs are too try hard

Welp, why is there no good choice of DE/WM in the glorious land of GNU/Linux in 2014?

All of them are shit.
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How can I store multiple strings to variables automatically, in Python?

cmdFindListCards=Popen("ifconfig -a | grep Link | cut -d ' ' -f1", shell=True, stdout=PIPE, universal_newlines=True)

I don't know if we've got the [code] tag enabled here.

The output of the first line is:






How can I make Python automatically create one variable for each line, in which the variable is assigned to the value of that string (the interface name), like this?:

card1=docker0 (first line value)

card2=enp2s0 (second line value)

card3=lo (third line value)

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Is there a FOSS mobile app like Clover but for 8Chan? Why hasn't it been made yet if there isn't? How hard is it to make one?

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My Asus UEFI BIOS freezes when I save any changes I've made in the Advance Mode. Meaning I am not able to enable Intel Virtualisation or enable OtherOS boot mode due to me having to hard reset the machine.

I've replaced the CMOS battery and adjusted the jumper pins to reset the BIOS but the problem persists. All the hardware such as my 2x 4GB RAM sticks are registered by the machine. I have also updated the BIOS to attempt to fix the problem but no luck.

This problem has led to me not able to use Virtualbox.

How do I fix this /g/?

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OG is for Onions and Garlic


be a /g/ pro in no time! have a big bag of onions!



how tor works:
















































garlic also welcome. what sort of onions and garlic are you into?

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half-chan finally rangebanned me for shitposting too hard...

Which should I go with? Spend $20 on shitcoin and buy me a 4chan Pass and behave like a good goy or spend a lot more on a VPN and continue to shitpost like crazy?

Any recommendations on which VPNs are guaranteed to work on 4chan?

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Cheap multiheaded frahic card

Is there any cheap/affordable multiheaded video card on teh market? I guess capitalist commrades from China delivered? I just need it to produce 2d output for 3-4 monitors. I dont expect it to be a heroic 3d feast capable piece of silicone.

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Clover for Android

For the love of God someone please help me. How do you browse 8chan using Clover for Android?

It adds the website but not the boards! It doesn't recognize that any boards exist and you are not able to manually add them.

Overchan for Android is also not capable of browsing 8chan. I am not willing to consider using a separate app.

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Best Linux distro for actually working?

What's your favourite desktop distro for actually getting shit done and why is it Debian Testing?

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Lenovo IBM R51

Just bought a Lenovo R51 Thinkpad and wanna get the most out of it, even if I have to change the motherboard.

If you got any suggestions post them here.

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So, Desktop Thread?

I've missed you guys.
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Free iptv m3u playlist


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Should goverment organisations be banned from social media /g/?

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Hey, it's 7 years put together!

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>open file explorer or anything at all

>wait for sleeping HDD faggots to spin the fuck up so we can continue

>listening to music or watching something

>hear random piece of shit faggot HDD's spinning up for no fucking reason with their dumb annoying cunt noise

Holy shit I fucking hate hard drives so fucking much. when will TB SSDs become cheap enough for me to replace every piece of spinning rust in my fucking desktop pc by them?

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What VPN do you use /g/?
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If I build a program from source with the correct compiler for my architecture, the binary should work, right (provided it doesn't use any proprietary libraries)?

I'm thinking of install Gentoo on my ps3 because of Portage. I haven't tried Gentoo at all, but from what I've researched, it looks likes it would be the best bet for up to date software support and maximum street cred (autism). I'd use Debian if the repos weren't so goddamn slow (also systemd).

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Making a transition to better privacy, what do?

hey /g/ so in light of recent happenings,i have decided to make myself more concious so i dont get vanned over ripping off an album

what programs and services respect my privacy the most and are superior to nsa software?

im going to be using a paid vpn with a prepaid card to anonymize my mobile and computer

for my phone ive rooted it, got a custom os, ditched all the jewgle programs,about to get a prepaid provider so i dont need a contract. under my brothers atm

for my computer. im using a linux machine to torrent, and play my games on win 7 machine, internet off (i dont care for multiplayer, never have)

ive steered clear of social network sites, messengers

i know utorrent cant be trusted.

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Apps to browse 8chan and halfchan with

I'm finding clover /comfy/ but I am open to any suggestions

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I'm learning to make my own OS (for larping purposes, obviously) and was thinking about making a *nix. I've seen alot of hate for unices being too hard and having very limited software support, but past that, not much else. Why do people hate Unix and its various clones, decendants, and forks?

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What's the political preference of g?

do you think your preferences in software affects your preferences for politics?
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Cock.li is down.

How am I suppose to read my spam now?

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Arch linux installation

>be me.
>know very little about GNU+Linux, a total GNU+Linux noob.
>First timer installing Arch GNU+Linux into pc using the Live cd.
>removed MSR(System Reserved) partition from HD that are currently used for Win7 boot, and replace it with GNU+Linux /boot partition (200mb of total size).
>mount everything.
>didn't detect UEFI, don't know what it is anyway.
>installed grub, hoping for dual boot to work.
>installed the rest of GNU+Linux on another new ext4 partitions in the same HD, each partitioned consist of "/", "/var", "/home".
>install finished, reboot.
>grub dual boot screen appears, listed arch GNU+Linux and win8, wtf.
>choose arch GNU+Linux option.
>pc loads.
>then get error massage, "Thermal reporting for required devices not enabled, aborting".
>goes to grub dual boot screen again then choose win8.
>pc loads.
>booted into win7 recovery partition instead of win7 os.
>can't boot into win7 ever again.
>don't know how to fix the bootloader and GNU+Linux, don't have anymore. unallocated partition left.
>kill me please.

tfw you'll never be able to use superior FOSS os on main hard drive.
tfw you'll never be Arch GNU+Linux lesbian.
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Hi anon-kun. I captured a 8gb mysql file (myd). But I don't know how to read the content in it.

How can I read it? or is there a way to convert a 8gb myd to csv?

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TempleOS Minecraft server, sand castles & God

make virtual offerings and talk with Mr. God

join up:

IP: templeos.online


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/g/ - Guro

/g/ - Guro

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Hey /g/, tried encrypting my files but got bored half an hour in and turned of my computer, didn't realise I had to wait around 12 hours and only some of my files were encrypted. Unfortunately some of the files which were encrypted were my Windows 10 system files, meaning my computer is broken. I used Bitlocker.

Also, I didn't think my Windows recovery key was important before trying to encrypt my files so I put the recovery txt file into my recycle bin. and don't have it.

Help would be appreciated. I am going to bed, but if anyone is willing to walk me through it in the morning my discord is A𝖗𝖞𝖆𝖓#8945

I have very important files of my ex-girlfriend saved on my computer, I will send them to anyone willing to help.

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/pcbg/ -- PC Building General

Post your component list, rate other anons', and ask questions in general.

Always state the purpose of your PC, your budget, AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.

If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price or to improve specs or build quality.

Assemble your parts list; built-in price comparisons by vendor and a compatibility filter.


Gaming builds based monitor resolution and refresh rate


>To activate the Description, select build from sidebar then click on the title over the parts list

>Description contains notes, other options, and build skeleton for easy customization / cost savings

>Note: Win7 and 8.1 cannot be installed on a 200 series chipset

Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.


>Subsitute a G4560 with 2400MHz RAM for any Pentium or i3; similar performance, up to 50% cost reduction.

>Consider using an i5 7500 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build

>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build without a Z mobo

>Consider a B250 or mobo for any Pentium or i3 build

>Add a 240GB SSD to the "Very Good" tier build

>The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB

General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.


Information about how to assemble a PC, how to select components, etc.


Should I upgrade to a 1440p 140hz monitor or upgrade my GTX 760 to a GTX 1080?

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Something that's been on my mind as of recently is how every corporation is trying to make their own streaming service for music and movies. I think it's pretty clear that most people usually pirate because it's the most convenient option, and would pay for something if it's made easy. If Disney pulls all their movies from Netflix and puts it on their own streaming service, and then every other entertainment company does the same thing, it would be like cable again, having to pay 10$ a month per service. Same thing for music, games, etc. Sure it's good for competition, but it leaves the consumer being fucked in the ass.

At the same time, if there is only one service to rule movies/gaming/music, that would be giving too much power to 3 companies. So hypothetically, you'd have Netflix, Spotify, and Steam being the only places to go for anything. Sure it's convenient, but it leaves the consumer fucked in the ass by 3 companies.

So my question is, what do you think is better? Competition, so the consumer can get a better product, or convenience, so the consumer doesn't have to pay for a million services? I'm sure most of you would rather pirate anyway, as do I.

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Does anyone else get looked at strange when you pull out a laptop running linux in public

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How do I bypass a rangeban on half-chan on my phone? It seems to follow me everywhere even when I've literally traveled to another state.

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/csg/ Chink Shit General

In /csg/, we discuss the cheap shit you see on Gearbest, Taobao, AliExpress, Banggood, eBay and similar sites.



>IRC channel


#/csg/ on rizon

>Chink Shit Randomiser


>Chink Shit Wiki


>Chink Shit Infographic


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Hey guys,

Picked up a BD Writer for Christmas and have already used MakeMKV to create a directory of MKV files for a recently released BD film.

What's the best way of putting said directory (.zip file) on the web for others to download? MEGA? A torrent site?

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What is the best power outlet /g/

I think it is the UK socket as it is custom fused for a cord and is hard for a itoddler to put a screwdriver in it

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>4chan is down

wat do


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Ubuntu is cancer

I haven't used Ubuntu for years, ever since they started selling their souls to Amazon and bundling literal actual botnet malware in their distro, but for some reason I decided to give it an honest go today. Forget the Amazon shit. Forget the systemd. SNAP is the worst thing in the fucking world. Snap is pure absolute cancer.

How in the hell do people use Ubuntu? WHY do people still use Ubuntu? Jesus christ what the fuck happened to Ubuntu.

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Hello, /g/. It's time for a new phone, and I was hoping you could give me the top tier divided by efficiency phone to get. I'm trying to help my brother make the best decision, and I think 8ch is the least biased place on the web for any information (save the shills).

So far it's between the LG V30 and the OnePlus 5t. I browsed the catalog to see if there was any mobile threads but I couldn't find any, so I guess this thread can serve as a double for the mobile equivalent of "post your PC specs and which rig to get and what is most cost-efficient etc." too.

Thanks in advance

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can someone please help me understand this code?:

document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', e => {

const input = document.getElementById('input'),

form = document.getElementById('container'),

log = document.getElementById('log'),

start = Date.now(),

conversationSoFar = [];


// this happens a lot on mobile when the keyboard (dis)appears

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Fuck Arch

>be me

>downloaded arch

>installed arch

>literally took 2 days (non stop) to install

>fucking slow internet 30KB/s Avg.

>Installed KDE

>Installed Cool looking theme

>added cool looking animations

>added all "basic" packages (firefox, gimp, libreoffice, ...)


>go on work and return

>open laptop, KDE broke, no animation, no cool theme, nothing.

Why is this world so cruel?

>inb4 fuck gentoo

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Banned from Lefty/pol/, pruned from /pol/, is this really off topic? It's related to lefty politics due to it being a critique of Marxist thought, related to /pol/ because they dislike Marxist thought. Why am I being censored? Will you censor me /g/? Is thought control of this nature something that's killing our unique Chan culture?

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If I purchase a suspicious domain using my bank account, will big bank be notified?

Don’t want to get arrested, so that’s why I am asking you guys.

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It never ceases to amaze me how trivial it is to get social security numbers. It's literally harder to get a wifi password than SSN

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Linux Users Going Their Own Way

It's time for linux users to go our own way. The whole "GNU"/linux ecosystem - more appropriately called the freedesktop/systemd/gnu/chromium/linux operating system.

* The red hat goons basically own the userspace now. If you want to make changes to your system you can send a patch and it wil get dropped. They essentially have 100% control, linux desktop will conform to their vision alone.

* polkit and dbus.. what do these things even do? Yet you have them on your computer most likely.

* GNU glibc is bloated and full of bugs *that GNU software depends on* and it is pro abortion.

* ls / gives about 50 things. for "historical reasons": Translations, if you try to make it simple like 4 or 5 directories all with a clear and distinct purpose every piece of software in existence would break because it's all badly written.

* every single programming language has its own fucking package manage that fights against all the other package managers. Is this a joke? Why are programmers, supposedly smart people, allowing this to happen?

* You have all this FUCKING GARBAGE that is overcomplicated and nobody likes like: systemd, polkit, dbus, gsettings XML schemas. None of this stuff makes sense, the documentation is unhelpful and the systems themselves violate standard UNIX design ideas - I wouldn't have a problem with that if they had actually improved on things.

* The web browser is about 80% of the linux desktop experience now. And while it's technically free software it's nearly monopolized (firefox is digging its own grave) and it's basically impossible to make changes to. lets be honest here.

* The shell's fucked. Try writing a shell script that correctly processes a list of files that might have spaces on tabs in the names. You can do it if you study but everything takes work when it should be simple. Programming with lists of strings shouldn't be so tricky.

* The core sets of software has so much historical baggage that could be cleared away. Did you know ./configure tests if your system uses EBCDIC instead of ASCII? configure performs millions of checks, yet the software usually doesn't work either way.

How about a simple init system that doesn't reimplement half UNIX in a buggy way?

It's time for linux users to go our own way, let's have a simple operating system based on clear understand principles with man pages that explain everything you need to know. There's so much more that could be said but I'm sure you have your own complaints too.

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Hi /g/, I want to put together some scrap computers from cheap parts on ebay. I am looking at dell motherboards a lot, they're cheap for a reason.

They all usually use several propietary connectors, such as

5 pin for fans

weird ass all in one connector for all front panel things

weird motherboard that won't fit in conventional cases

are there any adapters and such I could use for this purpose?

pic unrelated

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How can I keep harmful shit out of my pc case while maintaining good airflow?

My computer is in close proximity to where things like bug spray, air freshener and such are sprayed sometimes and it makes me really paranoid.

What do I need to buy to prevent harmful things from entering my pc and shorting my components?

Pic unrelated

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Redpill me on Windows 10, /g/. Both technical and political aspects.

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How long until Google updates ChromeOS to handle work programs so nobody ever has to run Winshit again (except asshole gamers)?

My Windows Update is completely broken and the repair tool won't fix it.

SFC scan is broken

I have to pause the entire Update system to prevent it from randomly blue screening.

Their ISO downloader breaks during USB creation.

Jesus fuck!

I'm trying just the tool ISO download now, and if that fails I'll download it directly and use Rufus.

How fucking fail of a company do you have to be where THIRD PARTY TOOLS have to be used to fix your shitty fucking OS?

You fucking nigger HR cunts. I would love to see a profile of every hiring manager at Microsoft so as to learn how NOT to run a company.

And I seriously hope every last Microsoft employee DIES in a fucking fire.

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4chan is censoring LinuxGate

I posted thread in pic related, and it was 404ed within about 10 minutes.

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Buying HUGE storage mediums is stupid, if you have that much data, wouldn't it be smarter to use multiple mediums in RAID? Putting too much faith into one device is just stupid. What do you think?

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Is Linux Gate (Code of Conduct) the end of linux /g/?

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Microsoft will give the U.S. military access to 'all the technology we create'


Here is a copy-paste of the article:

Microsoft President Brad Smith, shown Nov. 7, said Saturday that his company would work with the military on technology development.

As tech companies such as Google wrestle with employee objections to working with the U.S. military, Microsoft Corp.’s president is throwing his company’s support behind the Pentagon.

Microsoft is “going to provide the U.S. military with access to the best technology … all the technology we create. Full stop,” Brad Smith said Saturday during a panel at the Reagan National Defense Forum at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley.

Smith acknowledged that “there is some angst” in some workforces, including Microsoft’s, about tech companies’ involvement in military contracts.

In June, after thousands of employees voiced objections to a contract that allowed the military to use Google’s artificial intelligence tools to analyze drone footage, Google decided not to renew the contract.

Smith said he wanted to quell such concerns. “We want Silicon Valley to know just how ethical and honorable a tradition the military has,” he said.

The future and use of artificial intelligence and autonomous systems have broad implications, he said, and are “of importance to everybody and not just young people who happen to live on the West Coast.”

Smith expressed openness to hearing his workers’ opinions, saying that Microsoft would “engage to address the ethical issues that new technology is creating.”

He recalled an email he had received from an employee who grew up in Belgrade, Serbia — which was bombed by NATO forces in 1999 — that said the employee needed to think through Microsoft’s reasoning for working with military contracts. Smith said he understood the employee's background would lead to such hesitation.

But he did not mention Microsoft taking any action or changing any policy as a result.

Other tech industry executives pushed back against the idea that Silicon Valley workers are less inclined to work with the Defense Department solely because of cultural differences or qualms about the moral implications.

“It’s much more an economics issue,” said Rachel Olney, founder and chief executive of geographic location data start-up Geosite. “Dealing with the U.S. government is extremely time consuming” and often doesn’t provide the same kind of profits as commercial work, she said.

The Defense Department has established the Defense Innovation Unit, which is intended to provide capital — without taking an ownership stake — to companies that want to work on prototype projects that help address problems faced by the U.S. military.

Despite the pushback from employees at Google on the Project Maven artificial intelligence contract, Defense Innovation Unit director Michael Brown said his agency has gotten more responses from commercial companies that are interested in working with the U.S. military.

Separately at Saturday’s event, Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson told reporters that development of the new B-21 bomber is on schedule. She acknowledged that it was still early in the program, but “we are pleased with how that program is going forward.”

The Air Force’s next-generation stealth bomber is being built by prime contractor Northrop Grumman Corp. at its plant in Palmdale.

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What the fuck do I do?

>have a girlfriend I've known since third grade and just started dating the past year

>generally very accommodating to my FOSS autism, agreed to switch to riot when I left facebook a year ago

>everything goes well for a year, memes and general wholesome moments all around

>try to share some memes with her a few days ago

<all of a sudden she's super against riot

<unironically puts an ultimatum on the relationship: either I switch to hangouts (google botnet) or discord (gamer botnet) or texting (Verizon botnet) or the relationship is over

What the fuck do I do? I explained to her how each of these services is botnet and how my usage case requires a computer and federation, and even offered XMPP as a suitable alternative, but she insists on using proprietary software as a requirement for the relationship. Do I cave in and sell my soul to the botnet? Or do I break it off with her to keep my freedom? I love her to death, and she's the only thing keeping me from full-on robothood.

t. newfag

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So called alt tech sites like Gab are turning as bad as the companies they wish to replace?

Community ownership seems to be the future /g/

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Discord Server

Check out /g/ - a Discord server about technology and programming with almost no censorship.

Talk freely about all the exciting stuff and feel free to check out our extensive NSFW channels.


Pic unrelated.

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Experian Dark Web Scans

Dear /g/,

I was thinking about using Experian to do this Dark Web Scan. Is it worth it? I mean, they are doing a Dark Web TRIPLE Scan, so it must be worth it if its free. What kind of information can they give me? I might as well do it. I lost my Social Security Number and maybe they can tell me what it is.

I hope I can get some input. Please help. I am willing to listen to your experiences with this Dark Web TRIPLE Scan, and maybe glean some wisdom and get some advice on the results.


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Hey guys, is it cool if I shill some products i'm trying to sell here?

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>Unprivileged users with UID > INT_MAX can execute any systemctl command

Why is this bloated piece of shit still a thing?


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It's the little things that matter most.

Treat your Linux machines, fellas.

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Tumblr Scrapper

So is there anything anons would recommend to archive an entire tumblr (shared photos and videos) before the great purge or is everything just gone?

Looking for linux friendly programs

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Useful Data For Hackers


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malware and viruses for chrome os

do you know of anything i can use to check my chromebook for viruses malware etc its in dev mode so it doesn't have the same built in antivirus stuff

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terry love thread

Miss you bro.


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I'm learning C and need a bit of hand holding.

How do I read flags as well as multiple arguments? For example, ls. If you provide 2 directories, you get a list of both directories and the flags specified also work. How do I replicate this? I've tried looking at GNU ls, BSD ls, and BusyBox ls but I couldn't make heads or tails of anything.

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Let's play XONOTIC

pacman -S xonotic

= ATTENTION ALL ##8CHAN GAMERS Hotwheels is in great danger and hees neds YOUR help to wipe out the masonic goldwater. To do this he needs you to install XONOTIC. To help him get XONOTIC working and join the ##8chan XONOTIC room. and achieve epic victory. =

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simple problem

im trying to fix this Alienware mouse and the wiring doesnt match and I cant find a schematic for it

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does anyone here run this and like it?

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#include <stdio.h>

int main()
printf("C language is based as fuck\n");
return 0;

[bold]is it not?[/bold]

[spoiler]yeah it is[/code]

<im banned on 4chan rn so expect a bit of this for the next few days

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yall know any free vpn's that arent data mining ???

or any applications that help with security etc etc

pic unrelated

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Paypal purging big tech opposition

just build your own it's a free market :^)

>PayPal has banned BitChute, YouTube’s main free speech oriented competitor, from its service. According to BitChute’s statement, the ban appears to be permanent and final and the only thing provided by the online payment giant in way of a reason is a mention of its Acceptable Use Policy and their we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason clause.

>The move is a powerful blow against the rapidly ascending video platform, as PayPal subscription payments from supporters had been its main source of revenue.

>“It’s our belief that it is our stand against the current trend in censorship that has resulted in this action,” the statement adds. “BitChute is pro-free expression which is a universal human right. Furthermore, censorship and deplatforming are poor ways to tackle societal problems as they merely create echo chambers that can lead to bigger problems in the long run.”


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/g/ humor thread

post what you got

>you need 30 chars to post here

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>tfw you get banned from half chan and 420 chan

>tfw image boards can detect VPNs and proxies so I can't use one to get around my ban

>tfw 8chan is the only place of comfort left for me

>tfw lonely as shit now

wat do, /g/uys?

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Using NFC to connect to a wireless network

Hey, total newfag to networking and wanting to dip my toe in it with a little project. I would like to set up a network that would use NFC to authenticate a device for 24 hours. Essentially, let it connect, and after a certain time kick it out. I did a bit of digging on the internet and I found two possible ways to go about this.

The first would be with a hidden SSID and MAC address filtering. I would somehow need to update the MAC address whitelist with devices scanned by the NFC tag and assign it a timestamp or something that would trigger a deletion of the device. I have no idea if i could actually do this with NFC without it being a device that sends the adress to the router/server/whatever it may be that filters. Ideal situation this could be configured on the router side and not with an app or anything other than a tag.

The other way I found would be to create a captive portal and use this to limit and mess around with it as I may. This would require a bit more research on my part, but I'm sure that's not the hard part. In a perfect world, this captive portal wouldn't be like the ones in a store and they would run in the background, adhering to the simplicity of tap and connect.

Are there other ways to go about this I may have missed? I'd love to know your thoughts.

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Is there an equivalent to this, for 8?

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None of you fags can even write software, yet here you are larping like you know it all.

Prove me wrong.

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How can you tell a NPC did, or didn't tamper with your code or your github? I want to protect my software from them.

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Apple Computers

So /g/, is there ANY reason for buying an Apple computer? And by that I mean an actual tower computer, not a laptop.

Or is it really just overpriced junk? Anybody with experience here?
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Which Linux Distro is the best for privacy and security?

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Battlestations or the like

Let's have a Cheeky Battlestation, first time posting mine.

Also way off-topic:
I liked/still like /g/ on halfchan, say what you will but COMPARED to many of the other boards it was much more mature and being so SFW was a real nice break. People were surprisingly helpful and kind. Many threads actually stayed on topic can you believe.

I hope this board will keep some of the values of old /g/. Right now on the catalog there is some kind of anime character sitting on a traffic cone - I hope you all understand. We all have our laughs over at places like /v/, but browsing /g/ was always a pleasant experience.
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> boot computer

> see this

> what do

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print(colored(' Tell me an IP range [like', 'blue'))

ipRange = input()

print(colored(' Now I need an IP dir:', 'blue'))

ipDir = input()

print(colored(' Nice! Now wait for the scan to finish!', 'blue'))

time.sleep (3)

os.system("ipscan -f:range' +ipRange '-o' +ipDir'.txt")

How to I make this shit work? ipDir and ipRange simply won't get set by what the user inputs.

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Youtube Premium

>Paying 10€ a month to play videos with the app on the background

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How do I fry everything inside my laptop?

I want to zap everything to the point of no return. Unrepairable.

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What is /g/'s opinion on Pale Moon browser?
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> Microsoft to migrate into "Desktop as a (((SERVICE)))" model

> OS X is fucking useless unless you're a multimedia producer

> Torvalds just decided to become a SJW

Please tell me there is a hidden 4th non-mobile OS.

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Clover Dev

Using Clover Dev

Which Chans are supported?

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What laptop do you use /g/

Ive been useing the same x61 (with librebooted x60 mob) for a while now. Im planning on upgrading to a x200 once I find time to libreboot it. What do you think?

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We 4chan now

4chan is obviously compromised due hiroshima being a greedy jew. This is our home now, hope you guys don't care

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I don't know how to get out...

I wanted to get out of the Google Ecosystem, but its nearly impossible...

I began to think of replacements for everything:

Gmail? Outlook!

YouTube? I'll just download subscribed videos automatically.

GDrive? OneDrive (dropbox too small)

Chrome? Palemoon

Google Music? ...Spotify?

Google Books? Kindle maybe...

Google Search? DuckDuckGo I guess...

Android? Uh...fuck.

Should I bother? Maybe the ecosystem is better and more convenient for me anyway? Help /g/entoomen

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Mystery Port

What's the name of this port?

I can't figure it out.

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In your honest opinions: Arch or debian?

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I want to stop using gmail.
What do you use?
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Hello, we are a grey and blackhat hacking group called Go7nSec (Guardians Of 7he Net security) we are an equality hacktivist group we also have an interest in anti-government, we also strongly enforce the idea "take from the rich give to the poor" and we are currently recruiting for people who are professional in hacking, programing, cryptography, and stenography. We operate on Kik for new members (#404blacklist ). Send a list of your skills, why you want to join, any other serious hacking groups/people you're associated with in the group above. we will review your submission. If you do not get a reply in 1 week you have not been accepted. We look forward to seeing you during our operations!

-Percival and the members of Go7nSec

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HOPE conference

HOPE conference: Rapists and Fascists.

In an echo of the character assassination against jacob applebaum: A trump hat wearing alt right nazi troll started a huge argument at HOPE, the chosen hacker conference of rapists.

> http://archive.is/5MVG1

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god bless paris and it's free fiber

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hi /g/, I've noticed my keyboard has gotten a bit dirty

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Press F to pay respects

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What is it about programming that you like?

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C++ troubles

Hey /g/, I'm learning c++ from a book, and to make sure I knew what I've learned so far well enough to move on, I've tried writing a simple program that calculates the amount of time it would take to sing the "bottles of beer on the wall" song, in the users time measurement unit of choice.

However, I've run into a problem that I can't seem to find a solution for. Whenever I run the code, no matter what I put in for the time unit, it measures in seconds. I'll post it below.

My compiler isn't giving me any errors.

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I like my Dell.
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Ok, I was told to come here instead of /tech/
I'm gonna buy a Sansa Clip and get a 128gb sd card then put rockbox on it. Anything I should know before buying? The SD card is a micro sd but it comes with an adapter. Will that adapter work on the Clip?
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Grand Unified /g/ Discord

Hey /g/! Check out the Grand Unified Tech Server on Discord!

We started on 4chan's /g/ a while back, but now we here, too!

Full STEM Server includes:





-Tech news

-Tech support (We have Pajeets on staff to help you with your shitty Wangblows problems)

-Even talk about vehicles and odd tech. Like rockets? Sure! Making cool breadboard shit? You got it!

-And yes, even vidja and audio

This is the Grand Unified /g/ of Discord!


(And, of course: We also got animu grils, because what programming thread doesn't have a kawaii as fuck gril doing CS stuff?)

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I got a black screen problem know a fix?


I got the black screen because of a driver update also the cursor was working for a little while but now it's gone.

OS:Windows 10

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Favorite languages, frameworks, paradigms, etc.

I fucking love Lua.
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Thinkpad Thoughts

I was wondering how long a used Thinkpad would last as a daily driver. I'm a more worried about battery life than anything else. Moreover where do I find a cheap x220.

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You're at a lan party and this guy slaps your proprietary software. What do you do?

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dumping memes

don't mind me, just dumping some quality /g/ memes

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Program Thread

Link all of the obscure programs that other anons might not know about.

I'll start



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Here's a bunch of Java books in case anyone wants them

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Just starting out with Arch.

Best Window Managers/Desktop Environments?

I installed Enlightenment, and am rather unimpressed.

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Removing Digital Watermarks

I have some paid porn that I want to upload and share on torrent trackers but I'm wary of the digital watermarks that are probably in the video files.


Apparently porn sites/publishers use this the most; putting information into the video/picture files that, if uploaded anywhere, can identify exactly who's subscription was used to download the video. Basically each video has its own ID.

So how do I go about removing it? Everywhere I've read on the subject claims that re-encoding the video or using a screen recorder doesn't help, so what the fuck?

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File mounting software

Hey /g/, anyone got an recommendations for file mounting software?

I know Daemon tools is a shit and is bundled with malware, but is Alcohol 52% any good? Any others that are free and good in regards to copy protection?


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File organisation

Sup /g/ I was interested how you organize your files.

What are your strategies?

How do you sort files?

Please post it in as much words as possible also linking to articles or videos is OK.

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Uncucked languages

Any (((modern))) languages not infested with SJWs (no code of conduct etc.)? I like Crystal, but it literally uses CorawhineAda's code of conduct...

Preferably compiled/statically typed.

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shillbot memorial thread
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I have very little practical computer knowledge and am planning on building a robot to help around the home.

I know how to HTML so I can probably get by programming it, but how do I make the arms go?

Also why does it take so much time and money to make these things when they're just computers and bits?


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>leave 4chan
>come to this place cause its the new hot thing i guess
>looking through boards
>all the popular boards are active, /b/ /v/ /a/, the likes
>have to scroll way down to find /g/, which has 2 posts and hour

good, great, not like i only visited 4chan for the /g/ board anyways.

at least /tg/ is alive kinda
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Desktop Environments

>download latest Gnome 3 update
>weird ugly lines between menus
>transparency replaced by ugly gray
>giant-ass icons
>DOUBLE CLICKING doesn't fucking open shit (we tablet now)

Alright, the Gnome team went full fucking retard. Where do I go now? I hate cinnamon, KDE is ugly as always. i3 is usable, but it takes forever to configure it into a non-ugly configuration because the team is full >muh minimalism, and most of that involved using Gnome.

I'm so assblasted, this might force me to start another DE...

Anyway, DE thread.
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How Richard Stallman does his computing


>Richard Stallman, the free software activist and author of some of the world's most used and useful software, probably uses his computer and the Internet a lot differently than you do. For starters, ethics and privacy concerns trump his need for convenience.

I am careful in how I use the Internet.

I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I usually fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see git://git.gnu.org/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it (using konqueror, which won't fetch from other sites in such a situation).

I occasionally also browse using IceCat via Tor. I think that is enough to prevent my browsing from being connected with me, since I don't identify myself to the sites I visit.

I never pay for anything on the Web. Anything on the net that requires payment, I don't do. (I made an exception for the fees for the stallman.org domain, since that is connected with me anyway.)

I would not mind paying for a copy of an e-book or music recording on the Internet if I could do so anonymously, and it were ethical in other ways (no DRM or EULA). But that option almost never exists. I keep looking for ways to make it happen.

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== Arch begging thread :^) ==

Good morrow /g/entoofags, I hereby seek advice and aid from thou

I'm thomas, I am learning web technologies,

Today I come forth because I grew tired of being a windows pleb, I never posted here before, and I was wondering if you could give me some tips on arch as a complementary boot option to my aldready existing windows 10 system, and maybe/possibly guide me through steps of the installation.

My laptop's speccs are

<script src="//pastebin.com/embed_js/6KHfA8Ve"></script>

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is there an infographic like this for web browsers?
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/g/ What boards do you frequent ?

Except /g/ and /tech/

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RSS reader?

What do you guys use? I've been using inoreader but it is kinda pricey just to set up some simple rules.

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What are your favourite web browsers? The ones I know are:






>Pale Moon

>Sea Monkey

But I know there are other smaller ones that might have features none of these do.

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Global r00t


Just a quick note the global root is about to be extended to capture all web and ssh traffic.

With the System D in-fighting it is going to be forked. If it has a backdoor the % of unix systems capture with the current firmware backdoors will increase a sizable amount.


With TLS added to OpenSSH to capture more SSH traffic, it is being pushed to capture more SSH traffic.

It is now being pushed as HTTPS/3 and HTTPS Is disappearing

- https will be eradicated

- https:// will load TLS (see link above)

- consumers will think its secure when they see https:// and the logo

- one site will possibley be hacked and then http will be so thoroughly slandered everyone will demand tls

- getting the public to switch back to https will be impossible

The benefit of this is, if it is breakable or backdoored, not only will they get the new tls traffic but all the old https traffic also--- and now the openssh traffic too.

Why not offer https:// and tls://?

Every mandatory https movement or group was completely stalled or infiltrated for the last 10 years

The way it was added to openssh... They merged it like 1 day after openssl 1.0 was released, and insta released a 1.01 with basically only TLS. and the whole thing crumbled within a day. the patch was submitted and then code reviewed by the same guy.

TLS implementation has already had 2 serious show-stopping bugs if i remember. and heartbleed on top of that.

admittedly theres not much proof anywhere.. and I was off the internet in 2012 but from what i remember the story is this:

- I dont really remember anyone saying we need tls

- I do remember ppl saying we need all sites to use https and maybe https 3 -- but all the projects were met with

mysterious hurdles and people refusing to cooperate

- (this is similar to how all black rights and human rights movements were stopped in the last 100 years)

- I dont really remember any outcry of happyness tls was coming along

- I dont know who made it or what their background is and why they are legit

- Specifically I think it was made by two young kids, and I wouldnt be suprised if they are AT&T employees.

- etc

- (this can be argued in a small timewindow view of tls, but based on a view of 15 years of HTTPS is my opinion)

Arguably the w3c knows what its doing to HTML, but should we follow? HTML is still a piece of crap after 20 years. (Google "How to Center text CSS", 27,100,000 results)

Before we do this we should understand how ****ing hard it is gonna be to setup a MeshNet...

Already posted this on HN and got down-voted into oblivion.

tbh i would rather just enc the html files with pgeep and call it done.


Prepare for:

ALL web sites to serve TLS only, no HTTPS anymore, TLS will be used under HTTPS:// urls

ALL SSH clients to have TLS handshake code

new SystemD forks showing up in distros

OpenSSH developed by 50+ people from 30 different countries