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We're All Gonna Make It Bruh

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 No.1487

Things like these shouldn't make me mad, but they do.

 No.1488

>not liking giant tits

Nigga you gay


 No.1489

File: 1444813469182.jpg (25.06 KB, 277x160, 277:160, 1439912170819.jpg)

I don't mind big titties as long as they're drawn right

circular tits however ruse my autism a little (ie:senran kagura)


 No.1490

File: 1444842852301.jpg (93.88 KB, 500x349, 500:349, boigahz.jpg)

If I'm sufficiently aroused I'm ready to ignore a few problems a picture has. I have pretty low standards when something caters to my fetishes.


 No.1491

>>1489

I can tolerate circular ones as long as they have nipples. But Senran and similar shit have no nipples, even when uncensored. Shit triggers my autism so hard.


 No.1816

File: 1451596535207.jpg (291.31 KB, 1222x817, 1222:817, surprised.jpg)

>years ago

>huge weeb

>loved big hentai breasts and bodies

>read some anatomy books to practice drawing

>something is different

>all animu grills and waifus look like shitty deviant art drawings now

>my favorite artists suck

>sex scenes in hentai are laughable and abysmal

>suddenly, western art looks so much better

What the hell is this magic, /loomis/?


 No.1817

File: 1451597462248.png (217.18 KB, 447x547, 447:547, 1450746750882.png)

>>1816

I don't know fam, I can appreciate a lot of anime stuff too


 No.1824

File: 1451617551618.jpg (123.63 KB, 600x848, 75:106, Disaster Level "GOD".jpg)

>>1816

I dunno man. Technically I guess shit like Getter Robo Armageddon are garbage when you use traditional art rules.

But god damn does it look fucking cool as shit.

If something just nails that cool factor for me, nothing else really matters anymore. Even stuff like One Punch Man (the original original by ONE, not the redraw) with its abysmal art look good to me.

Something about how fun they are is just appealing. Yeah they're not getting hung up in museums, but there's a real human element to it that I dig.

Of course what you said is true, a lot of hentai and anime is still horribly drawn.


 No.1848

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File: 1451671319051-1.jpg (554.8 KB, 1024x681, 1024:681, XXXHolicwhatthefuckisthis.jpg)

File: 1451671319051-2.jpg (208.31 KB, 1299x877, 1299:877, Mecha -4.jpg)

File: 1451671319051-3.jpg (63.62 KB, 729x413, 729:413, God_Speed_Lover.jpg)

>>1817

Forgot to add: I still like anime and manga but, thanks to these anatomy books, i'm really picky about the art nowdays. My passion for cute girls is almost dead. Things like XXXHolic make my blood boil with rage…

It's like i'm trapped in this bizarro mental world where most jap drawings are made by crippled five year old children and anything that isn't Air Gear, City Hunter or Berserk tier is shit.

>>1824

I totally understand you, anon. Hell, my passion for mechas and robotic armors comes from their awesome looks in japanese media, but sometimes the art is so bad that even coolness can't save it for me.


 No.1850

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>>1848

>City Hunter

I don't know what it is but a lot of anime in the 80's/90's had this style at the time that I haven't seen duplicated since (the closest thing I can think of is the stuff "Madhouse" puts out like Highlander and Redline). It wasn't always consistently good of course, but when the budget was there it was pretty cool.


 No.1864

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>>1850

>Dragonar

I saw the main mecha in some Masami Obari drawings, loved his design but always forgot to watch the anime. Thanks for remind me, anon. I really like the OP.

But yeah, besides what you said and the Marvel animes, I don't renember anything similar either. Personally, with the moe overload in japanese animation, I really miss this kind of style.


 No.1865

>>1488

IT's not that they are big it's that they are drawn poorly.


 No.1953

Why do eastern artists avoid drawing the nose like it's the plague?


 No.2440

File: 1456341672909.jpg (700.44 KB, 2857x2016, 2857:2016, 1456329878471[1].jpg)

I've seen far worse, OP. Pic VERY related.


 No.2441

>>1848

>Used to like poorly drawn shit

>Started learning to draw

>Gain intense appreciation for stuff like Desert Punk

I'm not even good at drawing yet and I already feel it.


 No.2442

>>2440

Left arm is too short, breasts are placed wrong and defy physics, hips look strange, right arm might also be fucked?

Am I correct?


 No.2443

>>2442

Spot-on.

Adding to what you said: the breasts are impossibly huge, they have a very unnatural shape, and they just don't work that way; the nose and -possibly the mouth-, too, are off the axis. And adding to what you mentioned about the hips, the thighs also look quite strange (not sure how to put it, either; they just look like they aren't properly attached to the rest of her body).

But the worst part has to be the whole torso. Don't you agree? I would redline this right now, but I'm sadly not at my computer at the moment.


 No.2444

>>2443

Her spine has definitely been kicked in. She should probably see a doctor about that.

I think her hips might be fucking the perspective a little as well.

>the breasts are impossibly huge, they have a very unnatural shape, and they just don't work that way

Do you feel the nipples are too far up as well?

The most ironic thing is that Giant Naked Rei from EoE had very well animated breasts.


 No.2445

>>2444

>Her spine has definitely been kicked in. She should probably see a doctor about that.

It's amusing how it's supposed to be "sexy", but it really just looks very shitty. I'm sure it was a fuck-up of both perspective and the pose the artist was trying to do.

>I think her hips might be fucking the perspective a little as well.

True, and judging by the thighs, it's just further proof of the artist's poor skills.

>Do you feel the nipples are too far up as well?

Not only that; they look as if they were both independent units looking at different points in space. It's quite hilarious.

Do you feel the mouth is way too down? And the shape looks very odd, as well.


 No.2446

>>1816

Congratulations, you're a snob.


 No.2447

>>2445

Yeah the perspective definitely makes her hips look too small for her shoulder length.

I'm not going to judge the face too harshly because frankly I can barely draw better heads myself however her jaw does seem to be misaligned and the nose is too 2d for the perspective.

Piloting an eva must fuck you up bad to be this misaligned, eh?

Good point on the nipples by the way, I hadn't noticed their direction being different.

I wonder if people could improve their proportions from studying shitty cowtit doujinshi.


 No.2448

>>2447

>Yeah the perspective definitely makes her hips look too small for her shoulder length.

It's both, to me - but it does lean more to the smaller direction, yes. And since we're on the subject of shitty hips, her ass looks malformed too, somehow.

>I wonder if people could improve their proportions from studying shitty cowtit doujinshi.

As books as to how NOT to draw breasts, definitely.

Honestly, the disgustingly heavy cowtits are probably what bother me most about that thing. Not even the spine.


 No.2449

>>2448

That's sort of what I meant. We could do, like, a thread where we take the worst cowtit style doujinshi and have learning artists attempt to identify why it's shit.

>Honestly, the disgustingly heavy cowtits are probably what bother me most about that thing. Not even the spine

Yeah it's the same as stumbling upon shit like inflation hentai, you know? It just feels wrong on a basic level. They enter into the uncanny valley and become these horrifying sex monsters.


 No.2476

>>2449

Stuff like OP's pic would definitely have to be included, too.


 No.2497

File: 1456852788133-0.jpg (594.41 KB, 800x1023, 800:1023, kawakami_mai_by_haganef-d9….jpg)

File: 1456852788307-1.jpg (756.39 KB, 800x1131, 800:1131, happy_new_year_2016_by_hag….jpg)

File: 1456852788501-2.jpg (672.64 KB, 827x1169, 827:1169, amagi_brilliant_park_isuzu….jpg)

>>2448

>>2449

I think haganef's catalog is enough material for a lifetime.


 No.2539

File: 1457299513644.jpg (298.82 KB, 1024x1280, 4:5, 6d55091af63a3ba658e907fd0a….jpg)

>>2449

What do you think of this, anon?


 No.2604

File: 1457982856690-0.jpg (15.81 KB, 399x350, 57:50, 36NNN.jpg)

File: 1457982856690-1.jpg (43.52 KB, 468x435, 156:145, article-1386352-0c05362200….jpg)

File: 1457982856690-2.jpg (45.9 KB, 450x324, 25:18, worlds_largest_natural_bre….jpg)

>>2443

It's not necessarily impossible for breasts to be that big, but is extremely uncommon and usually caused by a genetic abnormality or induced surgically.

The problem is breasts that size in real life look terrible due to gravity and such, so most artists usually end up breaking all sorts of rules to compensate - which results in the rather uncanny effect where characters have insane M-cups or higher that act as though they're B or C cups.


 No.2605

>>2604

In that pic's defense, at least she's in a position where they could be hanging. But >>2539 is just impossible (and disgusting).


 No.2606

>>2605

>In that pic's defense

You mean OP's pic or…?


 No.2607

>>2605

>>2606

OH, you meant >>2440

Fuck me, I'm dumb.


 No.2609

>>2607

No worries, anon.

But yeah. It does have that excuse, at least. But it still looks really, really shitty.

By the way, what do you think of >>2539 ?


 No.2611

File: 1458055499392.jpg (207.66 KB, 1167x1352, 1167:1352, 1457299513644.jpg)

>>2609

Well, the first thing I noticed is that the ribcage doesn't line up and seems to concave in places. It also seems too large in comparison to her head and shoulders, which also seem to be much narrower than her hips. And I'm not sure if this is a work in progress, but I find the lack of shading on the breasts themselves a little distracting.

I also noticed that her hips and shoulders look parallel to each other, which is rather confusing considering the rather dramatic dip at her waist. I don't know if she's supposed to be standing or kneeling (though from testing the pose, kneeling feels more natural) but either the waist needs to be less exaggerated or the shoulders need to tilt more. The right forearm also looks too short and I think the foreshortening should be on the inside of the left arm rather than the outside.

That's all I can think of at the top of my head. I might do a little more in depth redraw in a bit, but I'll see how it goes.


 No.2612

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>>2611

>That's all I can think of at the top of my head. I might do a little more in depth redraw in a bit, but I'll see how it goes.

That's pretty excellent, I'm looking forward to more, anon.

>And I'm not sure if this is a work in progress, but I find the lack of shading on the breasts themselves a little distracting.

It's probably because it is. I Google Searched the image because of what you said, and it seems pic related is the artist's final version.

As a sidenote, the breasts look really comical.


 No.2617

>>2611

Excellent crit.


 No.2620

>>2611

Anon, if you're still around, it would be cool if you could do similar critiques for the other pics in this thread.


 No.2665

>>2620

Bumping for interest.


 No.2679

File: 1458684272768.png (702.79 KB, 1140x1355, 228:271, 1446492172725[1].png)

>>2611

Anon, how about pic related?




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