Know your enemy. - Discussion of clowns, bots and shills.
While a shortlist of how to spot shills is often shared in the general, it will be helpful to make a more in-depth discussion. Toward the end of Q's duty station on halfchan, the board was overrun with clowns and shills pushing bump limits so it became impossible to read let alone bake. Not only since Q, but many have long experience on the chans and other platforms; some anons have become expert marksman veterans at shill spotting and sniping - share what you've learned.
If you find a good example of a clown, bot, shill, etc trying to slide or disrupt the general, post it here for posterity. How to filter, what to filter, why to filter (or why not), tactics and strategies. The attacks will only get worse.
Correct The Record/Media Matters/American Bridge are all names for essentially the same David Brock managed-George Soros funded PAC. "The Crew" and "Share Blue" are also part of the same group. Working for the Clinton Campaign, the earliest shills were CTR, and mentioned in DNC emails calling them 'nerd virgins'.
CTR shilling slowed down after posting their (open source) payroll list
What is cointelpro? An FBI program used from 1950s-1970s that would use covert and sometimes illegal projects aimed at surveilling, infiltrating, discrediting, and disrupting domestic political organizations.
COINTELPRO tactics are still used to this day, and have been alleged to include discrediting targets through psychological warfare; smearing individuals and groups using forged documents and by planting false reports in the media; harassment; wrongful imprisonment; and illegal violence, including assassination.The FBI's stated motivation was "protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order.[sic.]"
Some sample shills that harrass v/pizzagate.
The 1st three are of the head shill. Big time lefty. These images are of some death threats he sent to a PG researcher (recommend identifing him before he actually carries it out
The second set is of a particullary viscious "muh joos" shill who has used over 15 alts. Despises women, christians. Regularly defends islam. Regularly sends death threats. Is widely believed to be either a psychopath or sociopath by the PG community. Tries to derail threads on a frequent basis and seems to stalk specific posters. Has recently been in conversation with someone who knows how to doxx people. Given his death threats, this is a credible threat to the PG Investigation team's safety. He needs to be identifed ASAP before he kills someone.
The other photo in question.
Recently discovered a REAL shill. Really amazing to watch it all unfold and backfire in his face.
He claims to be illuminati / Draconian hierarchy. He also claims that Q is an idiot and that (((he))) has all the answers.
It's pretty hilarious… he was baited and trapped over on the /truthlegion/ board. All his posts tracked here at this link.
KRSN the cabal shill has his own chan board as well… which is apparently being outed as a shill shop.
That's the shills site… seems like Anon's are over the target! He's losing control haha.
Really interesting to read. You can see all the classic examples of gaslighting, subversion, diversion, misdirection, deceit, bait and switch, divide and conquer and claiming Q is compromised and no longer is in control.
Lol however all the attempts failed of course! Apparently they baited him to come over… and let him use all his cards and then capture it for ALL to see.
Just got done reading! wow that's a perfect example of every type of tactic, what a RIOT! To see them all from one guy, just perfect.
on halfchan/pol it was easy to out the earliest Q shills by them not knowing /pol history: winterball, flim flam, HWNDU, airstrike etc. Anons all over the chans have long shared histories on their boards, and speak in shorthand about that history, and shills never know what you are talking about. They can never post a single graphic from the board's past. (y'all know how big your graphic folders are…………………………)
And they can not meme.
For spotting and sniping anons
Yes my friend it is hilarious.
Didn't Q tell us to expect many more coordinated attacks because (((they))) are losing all control? :)
We are winning so bigly at this point and they continue to scream in vain.
We're over the target Anons.
Absofuckinglutely great reads! Thanks for this post anon.
been "over the target" going on what……7-8 months now?
Trump STILL being investigated
deluge of recent info out pamphlet and friends as being Q
wikileaks now on record stating Q is a LARP.
Suspect a spook? Check obituaries.
My friend, you honor me.
We are all in this together and fighting different battles.
Considering all MY material made it on the episode of Jordan Kleppers "The Opposition" episode 80 on March 20th… I'd agree we're over the target!
Q did recently warn us to expect increasing attacks as (((they))) lose all control.
The board I've been posting on has some Wise Anons… and they laid the most perfectly executed trap for this shill… I still chuckle over this lol.
Light on my fellow Anons!
YOU got this!
WE got this!
THANK YOU for a PERFECT example of (((shilly weather))) hitting in a post.
(you) suck at youR job, 'cause you'RE a shill on the losing side.
Never too late to get woke dude/dudette/tranny shill.
Curious, when do you decide to run, or hide, instead of taking potter shots? Do you sleep ok? I had a great night's rest, btw.
Today's shilly weather report:
AI Concern with a 90% chance of Vigilance.
would this include religion threads on here and gardening and crap like that?
I'm about to have a reckoning with a Save the Children person in the Pizzagate filth.
On his international turf.
How do you know when a shill is defeated? You read these posts. Kek!
Here's another lovely coincidence / reference;
>These people are STUPID. - Q
>We allow our enemies to make predictable mistakes. - Dr. Strange
>This isn't a game. - Q
>Want to play a game? - Q
>Learn how to play the game. - Q
>Shall we play a game? - Q
>Checkmate - Dr. Strange
Shills are gonna shill.
Pepe's are gonna Kek.
Winning so bigly… so so BIGLY :)
By the way, an article today, 5/29/18, confirms that the Pope is, indeed, having a bad May.
Q is right, again.
What do we mean when we say a shill 'glows in the dark?'
You will often see veteran anons call out a shill bot or clown with the phrase 'you glow in the dark'. Its not just a turn of phrase. The veteran shill spotters recognize shill patterns immediately, after long years on the chans. They don't have to think whether a post is from a shill or not.
A recent example is the 'where is Q' concern-fagging shill. Concern-fagging is where a shill pretends to be on the side of anons but having doubts, and hey, you should doubt along with them. A Veteran shill-spotter knows immediately this is a shill. They don't have to go through the thought process of logically figuring out this is a shill anymore, when its obvious they are just re-using same-o same-o tactics. old tired tactics lifted straight from the playbook make the shill posts 'glow in the dark'.
Shills are often paid to be here: Correct the Record etc. There are no grass roots shill groups here. Even the unpaid shills are riled up by Soros $ prompting them. They get memos on what talking points to do that day so they run off similar instructions for a group of shills.
Sometimes a shill is just a shitposter; a shitposter is someone being contrary just to mess with anons. Anons will do this to each other all over the chans. Shitposters have different patterns to their posts than shills and they go away as soon as they are bored, which is very fast, and look for the next thing to fuck with on the internet.
Bots are automatic scripts that run and reply to posts that trigger them. They still require a human(s) to start the script(s) for each new thread.
Clowns: If a shill falls somewhere on the web of the deep state then these are known as 'clowns' from '[C]lowns [I]n [A]merica. They use manipulation tactics and adjust to topics rather than working from talking points; read up on cointelpro.
samefagging: When shills support each other when its painfully obvious the situation doesn't call for it. "really anon, that is fascinating! Im so glad you said that. I was thinking that same thing!' etc-nobody on the chans talks that way.
But there are also Russian, Muslim and Jew shills, Communists and anyone else interested in taking down American freedoms by undermining one of the last free speech spaces on the internet. Q didn't bring them– the free speech on the chans has been under attack by shills for years but the shill lost to us years ago. Now that Q has happened, their efforts are increasing. But shills can't win over anons-they only try their shit to sway newcomers. Anons aren't the target-new readers are.
Yes that tactic is called forum sliding. Its mean to fill up the boards so people can't see important things, and keep the bakers working harder than they have to.
i got a good one a while back. discussing the officer who handed trump a challenge coin. there's a picture on the back of his phone.
this guy said, no, he was holding the phone "concave", and further that this was "the proper use case".
i mean, i understand what that means - but come on. that's a bot with a thesaurus 0.2b installed.
THe eBot that has been shitting up the generals was allowed to run without banning it, to see what it would get up to. Now we know.
Clicking on its videos allowed it to grab your IP address, which it would use to get you banned, then move on to the next IP it collected.
>Real anons were being affected by the large amount of bans (The bots sometimes use the same VPNs or manage to access the ip of anons, thus getting them banned). This is not desirable, so we have decided to fully trust (you) to be able to discern shills from anons.
>Know you can do it, you are smart. They are stupid.
>.. wait a minute.. Hi, ebot! :)
>Now what did I just type regarding anons hashes getting used by ebot..? Good thing we didn't ban it, eh? ;)
i believe that's a misinterpretation of the evidence.
i think IP collection is part of it, but not to snag real anons.
"Go back to reddit/plebbit"
Double spacing a post (reddit style spacing) comes out with an odd appearance on the chans. Reddit posts create paragraphs after two returns/enter, while the chans create paragraphs after one return/enter. Therefore double spaced posts, (Reddit-forced spacing) usually indicates a person new to the chans who is not yet used to chan-style spacing, and quite possibly a shill.
It is not necessarily an indicator of a shill, but is generally an indicator of someone who hasn't been on the chans very long.
More bread for the bakers.
Proof of invitation to his board.
Anons make the right connections.
Board is now locked down due to collapse.
Outing shills is easy.
Never engage a shill… unless your plan is to bait them, trap them and expose them.
(((Thanks for the props BO)))
… Winning… so… BIGLY… LOL
Side note, I am new to the chans and that should be obvious to most. Only started posting shortly after Q. Eye am still learning the rules, so bare with me.
Misrepresentation of evidence. See the relevant thread, and subsequent pathetic (((JIDF))) bot/operator assisted bot responses of trying desperately to convince others and baker.
BV's actions helped flush out the (((jewish shill))) in question.
You are kidding yourself if you think 'normal' mind set works in fighting/identifying (((shills)))
jews and israel is constantly called out for a reason. JIDF is a real entity, even if specific names change. There are plenty of 'firms', 'contractors' under various different names and guises around areas such as beltway, NYC, chicago, and virtually every capitals in western/russian spheres that engage in pro-jewish, pro-israel astrosurfing specifically. You do not fully realize the extent of the jewish racially motivated lobby and subversive groups (ADL, SPLC to start).
YOU may not act on racial, religious grounds. (((they))) DO.
Then (((they))) try to fuck with you on every level once you get too close to letting people know the truth or fighting directly against (((their))) interests.
ENOUGH. (((they))) get kicked out of countries and nations for a reason. For 2000 years. (((kissinger))) said enough was enough.
"If I wasn't born a jew by stroke of chance, I would be an anti-semite…people who have been kicked out and called out for 2000 years must be doing something wrong' - Kissinger (paraphrased).
(((Triple Parentheses))) are a built in function in this board for a reason.
We fight against ALL (((shills))), no matter what. If it's the fucking kike (who fucking earned that moniker by being cabal bitch #1), then it is.
America FIRST, anons. Not israel, not jews.
Undo your conditioning.
I dare and challenge any to tell me a single thing I stated to be wrong - you will see that truth needs no explanation or virulent defense, except for crushing acting (((shills))).
There is only ONE (((group))) on here that actively (((shills))) for its particular nation/religion/racial group that is not western, American, etc. No it's not even the muzzies or blacks or mexicans, etc.
(((triple parantheses))). There for a reason.
(((Their))) tactics are same as (((msm))).
Fire with fire, not an inch given.
War ain't pretty.
If it's some muzzy shill freak, that's predictable. muzzies are simply the other side of the same middle eastern/cabal playground shitcoin that is semitic influenced cesspit of human degeneracy.
One mistake you are making: 'muhjooshill' is a SERIOUSLY pathetic attempt by (((JIDF))) on this board to manufacture words just like (((racist))) and (((anti-semite))), neither of which are real words, simply jewish deception and pilpul (aka bullshitting).
YOU may not attack by race/religion. (((they))) lie, deceive, etc. (((they))) HATE being called out on this.
You don't know how delusional these (((fuckers))) are.
A very good exercise for understanding various and multiple 'concern' tactics can be found in this shill thread-an entire thread! This is a brilliant thread to watch them at work, since they've put themselves in one spot to increase 'support' for each other.
Note the common: "I used to support Q but now I don't"? If a normal person stopped supporting this effort, (or anything else) you'd just close the page and go on about your life. You might offer an opinion if asked, but you'd leave it behind. If you never believed in the effort, you wouldn't have followed it to 8ch. You might smdh but you wouldn't hang around to work against it.
But a shill FIGHTS the effort. They fight AGAINST something they 'say' they don't have any more interest or belief in. They get PAID to fight it.
Why are they here?
Why are they fighting Q so hard?
What are psyops?
Psychological operations (PSYOP) are planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to audiences to influence their emotions, motives, and objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of governments, organizations, groups, and individuals.
United States psychological operations consist of three distinct types: Tactical PSYOP, Strategic PSYOP and Consolidation PSYOP.
Tactical PSYOP is addressed to a specific enemy combat group, to induce them to perform a specific action that will affect the current or short-range combat situation.
Aimed at a larger audience, Strategic PSYOP is put into effect by a carefully planned campaign against a larger target audience than that toward which Tactical PSYOP is directed.
Consolidation PSYOP’s mission is to assist the civil and military authorities in consolidating their gains, by establishing and maintaining law and order, and by re-establishing civil government in an occupied or liberated area.
All three types of psychological operations - - Tactical, Strategic and Consolidation— can be employed to produce the following desired effects:
Reduce moral and combat efficiency within the enemy’s ranks.
Promote mass dissension within and defections from enemy combat units and/or revolutionary cadre.
Support our own and allied forces cover and deception operations.
Promote cooperation, unity and morale within one’s own and allied units, as well as within resistance forces behind enemy lines.
There are people who see this board as 'the enemy' and who are also highly experienced in the use of psyops. Prepare your mind for the assault.
Good afternoon gentlemen (and ladies),
I come from other parts of the internet, and exposing shills, bots, socks, the technology they use and who uses them was a thing I used to do, and I will share my discoveries:
1) Image based captcha don't actually work on modern tech as most bot accounts have smart OCR systems that can detect even 'pretty bad' images and answer the captcha - the one you use for this board wouldn't even stop them (as you've discovered)
2) Text based questions can be answered by one of two systems:
2a) The operator 'adds the answer', or
2b) An AI inference engine tries to 'guess' or 'interpret' the question (EG What is 2 + 2? 4, for example)
3) You can thwart most bots by having a question/answer that changes on a daily basis (with no reuse) on top of a captcha, this can impede users however.
4) Bot operators are called 'handlers', and they can operate between 2 to 100 accounts. The average is between 15 to 30.
5) The software they use is commercially developed, although it appears some are homebrewed applications that run in Python (possibly to pair up with TensorFlow?)
6) Building a forum bot is incredibly easy: Python with mechanize library and BeautifulSoup (you might want to consider fighting fire with fire).
7) Governments, Corporations and Political groups all use bots. A prime example of corporations is the Net Neutrality spam. They use it to astroturf grassroots movements and artificially incite aggression/action/results (think Arab Spring).
8) Organisations confirmed: IDF (both professional and hired students), Mossad, CIA, NSA (Edward Snowden admits as such), parts of MI5, US Airforce, The MoD (specifically: the Army), MI6 (minor role), FBI (usually to honeypot/entrap/snare), GCHQ, FSB and whatever the KGB's replacement is. Democrats are more active with social engineering/bots/socks, Republicans are playing catch up. British politicians have yet to catch on, it seems. Pretty much every corporation does it - usually they send in their employees to write positive blurbs or counter-criticism (look at any critical article about Microsoft, Red Hat, systemd etc).
9) It costs a lot of money, but gets cheaper with automation and AI.
10) Handlers can't be in more than two places at once (mentally speaking: the bots log/alert the replies), and the more people simultaneously engaging them from different places (as their 'differing' accounts), the better as it overwhelms their responses and often they make mistakes.
11) Their bots are often 'tuned' to specific keywords and are capable of bulk-scanning threads (usually the last page to check for responses). If you mess up the keywords and don't mention them directly, the alert system appears to fail - they will get notified by other bot handlers however if it's something they've missed, and the new keyword will be added.
12) Some bot/sock accounts talk amongst themselves. Usually so one sets up, the other introduces information.
13) They will strawman arguments - present a weak front under one account, attack it with another. Don't accept or try to defend weak arguments.
14) The different groups have different agendas, from what I can see:
IDF: Solely concerned with topics that directly relate to israel, berating palestine (treating palestinians as non-human etc), attacking iran, tackling anti-semitism
US agencies: Whatever the current US politics are, always pro-military
UK agencies: Whatever the current UK politics are, always pro-British, sometimes pro-US (they have minor disagreements)
Russia: Usually anti-agency/anti-US/UK establishment, will bring up topics that advantage them (Syria, Palestine, US abuses of power)
Corporations: Anything directly relating to them (usually they target criticism)
Political groups: Shilling in favour of their political agenda/who they want you to vote for/attacking other parties.
I hope my observations are of some use. If I think of more I'll get back.
Definitely! thanks for those insights!
Thought of more that might be relevant:
1) Advanced software (like in HBGary) will sometimes try to create 'backstories' or 'multiple accounts' across social media outlets - this is to make the poster seem more legitimate than they actually are. The one thing they can't easily create is 'history' (especially once outed). Some bot/sock accounts - in rare exceptions - are 'sleeper accounts', that are created historically some time earlier that might be dragged into bigger fights (so they appear more legitimate to a skeptical audience).
2) They utilise ISPs or systems that give high IP rotation (EG 'mobile', Verizon Business, satellite, etc) - essentially IPs that 'muddy waters' and make it difficult for source attribution. Proxies are less common but do get used. Normal posters tend to have consistent IPs or ISPs in contrast.
3) Handlers will target what are known as 'leaders' in social media circles. These are the people who are influencing the rest (Q an example, but also board owners, admins, that sort of thing - anyone who has a 'big presence'). The goal is to disrupt the leaders in order to disrupt the followers. They may also try to insert 'counter' leaders (who emulate the main leader in some way) who are basically like 'mimicry' style leaders. The counter to this is for everyone to independently think on their own terms rather than a 'leader-follower' network.
4) Government level, and some high level corporation (think military industries type shit) have what's known as 'writing analysis' tools. This allows them to unmask anonymous posters on the internet (kinda like how you identify shills based on how they act/behave - except automated). Ironically this can be used against scripted bots if you have someone smart enough to build your own version.
4a) The analysis tool, from what I can gather works on the following:
Post length (average length of posts).
Unique/key words (British people use different words to Americans, for example, but also overusing specific memes)
Unique phrases/sentences (you might have a common phrase or sign-off)
Spelling error rate (smarter people are more literate, for example)
Other match methodology that I'm not familiar with
5) A huge tip-off for bots is if they operate 'around the clock'. Normal people - if unemployed - can only really work for one 24 hour segment at most (sleep deprivation kicks in), and at normal, 12 hours. Bots often will be up/posting with a four hour gap or less between posts (ID by IP, post content and spacing). Contrast workplace/homeplace IPs (anyone posting from home then work needs at least two distinct ISPs).
6) Another handler tip-off is they will either claim to be a student (in some cases they actually are: israel pays students to shill for israel, public knowledge, look it up) or 'retired' as an explanation for why they aren't working. In some rare cases they will claim to be 'self-employed' but with apparently no work ethic (basically: look for absences that should be there if 'normal').
7) Horse's laugh/ridicule is a common discredit tactic, but can be made to backfire by earmarking them as immature/unable to handle the mature subject material.
8) Shills are, surprisingly, human. Generally, two types of shill: zealots/psychopaths, and punch-clock shills. Zealots (EG IDF) believe in the cause (they genuinely believe you're evil), psychopaths do it for the lulz, neither can be convinced otherwise. Punch-clock shills only do it for pay/lack of alternative. Edward Snowden was a punch-clock shill - he defected. Break the fourth wall, reach out. They know they're deceiving citizens.
Some shills even purposefully subvert their own work, and will make it obvious - on purpose - that they are a shill. They do have 'supervisors' so they can't be subversive all the time. Can't give examples, their 'supervisors' would clamp down on it. Appeal to the handler, not the bot. A 'good' shill is one you can't see.
Homer once said in response to a bad workplace: "You don't quit, you just do your job half-assedly"
Remember, some will have families, so there's no 'exit stage left'. Expose the shills, but try to also appeal to their humanity (if they have any). They will already know they're working for the bad guys on the simple fact they're attacking a forum full of people trying to expose corruption and human trafficking. Consider posting alternative job opportunities for whatever place they're from.
To the shills:
Do what you can to subvert the deception at your place of work. Even occupied France had the French resistance. A timely tip-off hint here or there can make all the difference.
I wouldn't have thought to reach out to shills. MM/shareblue 'nerd virgins' would see what we're working on and probably would have to be rotated out pretty often so they don't get their eyes opened. but who knows, leftism has its own zealotry.
Interesting about the analysis tools- young people use different slang than old people, different areas use different terms (soda vs pop). its profiling.
>I wouldn't have thought to reach out to shills
Neither did I, but after I started waxing philosophical reminding people about 'enemies both foreign AND domestic', I found shills starting to waver, after they realised their enemies aren't always external - they could be their own employers. Thesedays, I hear the emphasis on 'domestic' fairly regularly amongst grey and white hats.
Appealing to shills doesn't mean compromising. Stick to your message. In some ways, it's a psychological battle - you trying to convince them and them trying to convince you. And if not you, then they're trying to convince 'the audience'.
Home field advantages:
1) You work for free (they cost money - attrition. Some might be 'free' but they're less likely to be 'loyal' unless they're zealots).
2) You're adaptable (they have to follow a script, play to a specific agenda, follow orders - you can troll to your hearts content. If it came out they were being racist, harassing or discriminatory they're legally liable)
3) They run the risk of being exposed and it all backfiring (if someone 'exposes' you for being concerned citizens there's no repercussions)
4) There's a risk their technology will fall into enemy hands (think EternalBlue-style exploit leaks)
5) Whatever they're doing now software-wise, you can likely do better: passion and talent trumps money and manpower any day of the week.
Some forum configs for better resistance:
1) Introduce post flood delays (ideally variable on post size). No true human can 'mass post' within seconds. Essentially, force bots to have a post rate akin to a human (makes the human job easier).
2) Daily captcha can be easily thwarted by a handler with low tech - they solve the captcha for the day and then leave the bot to run, either:
2a) Prompt on every post, or
2b) Prompt after X number of posts (X being whatever you'd consider 'spam' or 'bulk posting').
Alternatively, you could modify your admin powers to 'anchor' specific posters with a 'every post' captcha (which can be used as a litmus paper test). Expect the handlers to whine about it - it's easier to social engineer the admin into disabling the captcha or reducing it than it is for some tech companies to build tech to solve the captcha (as said: some are homebrew, some are commercial - commercial ones auto-solve, homebrew, not so much).
3) If you plan to deploy your own bots, instigate a policy that bots (to avoid being banned) must self-identify as bots. Consider setting up bots that hunt shills and bots ('hunter-killer' units) - these can be passive (they only need to 'read' the board and report the findings).
4) Bots sometimes break on escape characters or unicode characters: /?x009 '~;:`¬`/?-(*& any decent programmer will escape the read posts, but it can help to bork them with garbage information
>>1643359 Only Symbiosis Persists ; Logically :-)
You CARE, we livE Coalesce . . .. …
What does Cameron say? "This. THIS IS OUR LAND"
Ignoring the random garbage, carrying on.
How do you thwart the writing analysis tools?
There's two approaches, the 'bad way' and the 'good way'. The 'good way' requires teamwork, the 'bad way' is better than nothing.
1) Avoid any identifying information where and when you can (names, IP addresses, browser fingerprint etc). Keep that shit random. I 'namefag' because literally anyone can take my name - it's there to prove a point.
2) You have an internal voice. That's what gives your writing it's flavour. That internal voice is what you're hearing reading this right now. In order to change how you write, change your internal voice's accent to some other accent. To demostrate, I will write the next part of this in the voice of Leghorn Foghorn.
C: I say, I do say, there, chap, you also needin' be changin yer werds so dey sound exactl like dat of the voice yo hear, you hearin me boy?
D: yer also be wantin to change dat grammar of yours boy so if yer good with dem words dem fighting words you want to become bad vice-versa if yer bad dont be a-rectifyin' dem mistakes you hear boy?
E: All these here capital letters and all these here lower case letters be havin no effect boy, yo went to be mispelin some of dem words, dont be corretin others if dey bad, cuz youd be askin for it boy
F: Yous want t' be avoidin dem unique words, ya hear? no unique words fer anybody!
G: I say, dem mono-syllabic words be where it's at, the simpler boy, the better
H: if you write long boy, the shorter dat there post, the better. less words be givin dem fewer hits, you hear me?
[and now, Morpheus]
You see, Anonymous, the 'good way' lies within teamwork. What if I told you that, if you all wrote the same way, that no agent, no bot, could distinguish your fighting style from that of any other in the Matrix?
Like fish in a school, be hard to distinguish from a crowd. I can only show you the techniques, Anonymous, you must be the ones to use it.
jOkEr sTyLe wRiTiNg iS oVeRuSeD aNd AnNoyIn aNd dOeS nOt rEaLly wOrK (mOsT aNaLysIs tOoLs nOrMaLizE cAsE tO lOwEr)
Shill tactics change to keep you off balance and having to adjust your defense. This keeps you 'under seige'. When you always feel like you are 'under seige' it is demoralizing. That demoralization is to get you to leave the board and reduce numbers.
Strengthen your resolve.
Remember, the BEST thing to do is not engage at all. Bleep right past them. If you don't look at them, they can't affect you.
Flat earth not working? Try a thread struggling to make connections between ancient vikings and the NWO
Probably JIDF. JIDF usually does the one thing that channers don't do, read through and you'll spot it. (Hint: 1 post by this ID). And of course they can't do the one thing that channers can
More shills outed… it's been quite a ride.
Months to unravel the angles being played.
Why does the Truth get attacked?
x and counting.
Post >>8825 is particularly telling.
Sometimes the most incredible ways can be devised to derail and divide Anons and Truth Seekers. It's been [Eye] opening.
Whether you choose to believe this, or choose not to… other boards function in symbiosis with this board. We share the same purpose… Truth.
>>1737094 Truth be known : the Barron and i want to know WHAT's in your belly?
Prof. Knuth <:> Thoth (know DEM?)
Trump Triverts Kakistocracy (yah! no alcohol is parasite control)
But - F.O.R. the rest of US: and now, as Man claims his Estate <:> ! Tom Waits asks, "What is next" for the Chef noun'd Jeff ? …
Can i suggest grow cannabis and fruit trees while we think about it?
and watch Andy and Fulford bash out WHAT is True Symbiosis
>>1656066 would it be a psyop to trick frugivores into eating flesh?
"The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries."
>>1738111 i reckon adrenochrome - butt it's all nasty if its parasitic. trespass is an interesting word s
Shillcon Level 01
I repeat, shillcon level 01
DATE of the IG report drop
tactics: Q is a larp, nothing to see here, forum sliding, feigned anger over anons falling for 'a larp', threads filling fast to bump limit with spam
report from 4chan/pol is worse-in addition to full-scale attack mods are deleting IG report threads
Shillcon Level 02
Maintain maximum readiness!
Tactics: Shills argue strongly against signing the petition to disclose the full IG report.
"stupid, petitions don't work anyway, the WH petitions are comped, look at the numbers change, you guys are dumb for doing it, it wont work."
when these did not deter anons they tried "well then lets make a different petition on a different website'.
Shillcon defense system, abbreviated versions
Thank you E-Baker
>IG = FBI
Horowitz works for the FBI
>Huber = DOJ (no DC)
Huber works for DOJ (Not in DC) He can prosecute and install Grand Juries out of the DC swamp
Q, Is this where the use of the Emergency Broadcasting System will be used…to bypass the MSM?
currently at Shillcon 4
current tactics: Spam, concernfags, some disinfo
UPDATE 6/16/18 afternoon
gayspam, feelingsfags, division, pretended infighting
over the target:
IDEN Hussein roommate
99% of 'esoteric' shit on this board is psyop 101. They know the kind of demographic this type of board draws. Derailing autism, dissipating energy.
new ager nonsense is largely bottom feeder type ((cabal)) left overs that useful idiots propagate and fight over.
Superstition (muhholyrock muhprophet etc) have NO room in nature. Jibberjabber won't save you.
Only YOU can save yourself.
new tactic for today during paki digs
MuhFeelsFag copypasta posted to multiple threads.
>"stupid, petitions don't work anyway"
Rebuttal to this is it costs nothing to sign, takes only a few seconds to do. Best case scenario, something happens, worst case scenario, the status quo is maintained. Everything to gain, nothing to lose.
Even as someone myself who has signed clearly rigged petitions, it goes on to demonstrate the extent of the rigging in such a way it's exposed (and lets the riggers know just how many disgruntled people there really are). You can only fudge numbers for so long. There's absolutely zero loss to signing.
If you really think a petition is rigged, send emails, send letters, call representatives directly, because those are substantially harder to ignore.
But regardless: still goddamn sign.
"99% of 'esoteric' shit on this board is psyop 101. They know the kind of demographic this type of board draws."
The illogical leaps to random conclusions, like 'Q is a quantum vaccuum space machine AI' are either schizophrenics with poor ability to filter information, or much more likely, shills flooding clearly batshit insane information as a side-channel attack to discredit a movement.
Media outlets will double-down and piggyback on a side-channel attack by using it as the 'example' or the 'worst' a place has to offer, as a way of making it seem so batshit crazy the common man won't be interested in it.
If the last part sounds familiar, it's what Alex Jones & Co have been doing. Standard 'dump and discredit' tactics.
YouTube experienced the exact same thing 'look at all these weirdo videos on the internet!' screamed the media 'won't someone please think of the children?'.
The only way to solve that is to aggressively purge or bury such garbage, unfortunately they then try 'thresholding' by moving the batshit insane ramblings closer and closer to a 'legitimate theory' (they'll then revert the thread back to form once they find the 'acceptable threshold').
Legitimate, well-reasoned and researched threads are a hard thing for shills to fake because they don't truly understand the subject and doing so wastes their precious shill time.
Shill Report 06/17/2018
Board owner comped
Threads that fail the 'sniff test' (sniff test: Rule 1: is the thread relevant? Rule 2: Does it serve any useful purpose/offer any useful/useable information? If no to either, it fails the 'sniff test'):
Random off-topic schizophrenic spirituality garbage (fails R1 & R2):
Endless variations of chess moves (fails R2):
Why doesn't Q talk about only my concerns (fails R2):
Schizophrenic ramblings (fails R2 hard):
Schizophrenic ramblings again (fails R1 and R2 very hard):
More schizophrenic ramblings (fails R1 and R2, distracts):
Brony shit (instant failure):
Troll logic (R1, R2 failure):
Strongly advise you direct garbage thread pots that aren't relevant to "TTDDTOT - Things That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread" as a sort of 'recycle bin of the internet'.
Shill report for 06/19/2018
The Qresearch General:
Shill report 06/20/2018
Distraction from IG Report
SIGN and push the petition
The crying kids are a distraction from the IG Report
Good write up anon
It strikes me the BO does not know how to deal with "thresholding" attacks, which might not be surprising as it's usually only reserved for forums that hit very close to the truth.
As per my previous statement, a "threshold" attack tries to find the threshold (hence the name) of when a shill post is largely indistinguishable from a normal post.
Naturally, spotting thresholding attacks is hard. But you must also be extremely careful not to allow the other side of it's edge, which is to make legitimate posts seem shill-ish.
If you delete an innocent's post, or you fail to spot the threshold attack, it has succeeded - because deleting innocent's posts will alienate them from the board which will succeed in driving them away from the forum.
It's actually better to err on the side of caution, and instead, either watch to see how a threshold attack develops (remember, it cannot remain legitimate for long), and if anything, apply pressure in the form of questions.
Short-term shills will lack sufficient local knowledge to validate themselves (but can be easily confused with newfags). The difference between shills and newfags is shills will always try to exploit hostility and DARVO, where-as newfags tend to concede or admit errors.
Long-term shills will be able to pass typical background queries, but their threads or writings will still contain fundamental flaws: the tip-off is when they REFUSE TO CORRECT THE FLAWS.
Accidental errors often bring concession and admission of error followed by a correction and no further continuance. Intentional errors are either very recluctantly 'corrected', if at all, and the behaviour remains the same in future (like a repeat offender).
Thresholding attacks only counter is observation, questioning and due diligence with expected psychological profiling of typical reactions.
Do not 'kneejerk react' because you might cause collateral, and resistant innocents (who are offended at bad adminship) are nearly indistinguishable from resistant shills (who are opposed to adminship period).
Threshold test: If someone was to enter the room and ask me to prove this was likely a thresholding attack, would I be able to prove it to them?
If yes: it's a threshold attack.
If doubtful: more time observing required.
If no: it's legitimate.
Bumping this thread. I wanted to summarize some shill shit. A lot of this has been covered here, but I thought it'd help to get a cliff notes version.
Shills raid this place by the minute. Shills are actually easy to spot if you know how to spot them. Just like plants, shills can't "grow" unless you feed (respond) them. Here's what we do to handle the shills, and how we identify them.
1. We don't reply to shills (DONT FEED THE TROLLS!)
2. We don't reply to SHILLS.
Types of Shills (the bad guys) and how to identify them:
1. Racism Shills:
Racism shills work to pit everyone against each other. Q is very specific on the matter of race:
PATRIOTS HAVE NO SKIN COLOR:
Deception/Subversion tactics of pitting whites vs blacks, blacks vs whites, and everyone against the Jews; is everywhere. It's how Trotsky got Russia to fall into a Soviet Republic, and it's VERY EFFECTIVE to people that aren't aware of the truth. The Jews that are depicted in memes on these boards are IMPOSTERS. Actual Semitic peoples are just like any other; trying to do their best to survive. Before you start calling me a Jew, I've posted my Ancestry to dispute those claims.
Patriots HAVE NO SKIN COLOR. A discussion on Civic Nationalism can be found here in the archives:
Pay attention to the tactics used by the black hats to try to derail the discussion!!!
2. Baker Shills:
Easiest way to subvert a movement is to "blend in", and make small changes that no one notices along the way. Those unnoticed changes cause division as some in the movement (usually new comers that know no different) valiantly defend the changes as "part of the movement". We do a few things in the Q Research breads:
1. Wait for Q Drops
2. Dig on Twitter/News sources against the Q drops for confirmation of the The Plan
3. Post results to the threads (CREATE MEMEs!!!!!)
4. A little banter/discussion
5. Post Baker babes.
BO (Board Owner) has been diligent in keeping the false bakers at bay, but as you noticed on the night of 6/20-6/12, we were SWARMED with bad bakers due to the near absolute confirmation posts of Q on 6/19 and 6/20 (Selfies in Oval Office and the QShirt guy singling out at MN rally). Trust your BO to do the right thing. If you see TONS of breads, hit up the catalog, and wait things out until BO makes confirmation that they have been cleaned up!!!
3. Porn Shills
This is easy. People posting actual PORN images are obvious shills. Yes this is CHAN culture. Yes, this is 1000000% FREE SPEECH ZONE. Yes, this is tolerated here. NO, the rules will not change no matter if POTUS is here or not (which he always is). POTUS chose 4chan/8ch for a REASON. These places are the last bastion of free speech on the internet that are still available to everyone that doesn't want to go TOR browsing. General Public access to drop the truths that normies need to hear to become woke Anons.
Concern fags are ANYONE that aren't TRUSTING THE PLAN. Yes, optics look bad for POTUS sometimes. That's INTENTIONAL. Point in case is this video proof of bad optics used to POTUS' advantage way before he became POTUS:
LEARN HIS METHODS!!! If it looks bad, it will turn around! Think about Stormy Daniels' role in all this. Why is she, all of a sudden, no news? It was an effort to:
1. Bait News Cycles
2. Give Avenatti enough rope to hang himself
3. Make the MSM look like a bunch of fucking retards
4. Something about evidence being inserted during the Cohen raid – https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1104781.html#1105115
You're going to look back on Stormy as being one of the most PIVOTAL EVENTS of the past year.
This covers some of the major ones.
Shill Report 6/21/2018
qresearch: some board sliding
q general: Distraction, forum sliding, division tactics, provoking response
how could you forget the legend himself
YOU ARE FULL OF "SHILL". YOU WASTED LOTS O' SPACE GLOWING NIGGER ! WTF…
yes, we have a resident 'muh dick' troll. A troll's goal is to annoy people. Unlike shills which are paid (or used) to disrupt a board so they can control the conversation toward their agenda, trolls have no politics except wanting to get a rise out of you.
Shill report 06/22/2018
Shill activity on the board is mirroring shill activity in the media
(((they))) are trying real hard to disrupt the news cycle by playing ALL and I mean ALL angles.
imitating /pol/ patriots, bitching at newfag anons, one line post with no tag as usual, etc.
Something is up - directive for all out revving up the incitement machine while denigrating rightfully angry western people and provoking them - JIDF 101.
Shill report early 06/22/2018
We reached shillcon 2 last night. The increase was all SJW hammering–the same screeching SJW hammering that has taken control of all other social platforms on the internet.
'this is offensive so you need to change' yadda yadda
I don't bother covering the subject of trolls as there's nothing of note to say (shills can behave like trolls if they feel it achieves their objectives). Treat trolls and shill-trolls like you'd do a troll: ignore them. On a conventional forum, it's the 'admin's job' to do clean-up, and if there's a report button, your job is to report.
Other than that, ignore and carry on.
Provocation is the shill's 'discredit' tactic. The goal is to make you angry, so then you seem like some aggressor. Shills will always omit or cherry pick key details (including blatant hypocrisy), so it's always good to document in any replies previous douchebag behaviours they themselves have expressed.
The media aspect is they play on whichever side is favourable and recast in whichever light. So for example, if they were aggressive, they would be 'asserting their rights', but if you were aggressive, you'd be 'abusive'.
Instead, always shuffle to a very plain matter-of-fact tone and continually document and remind of their abuse. The dry facade makes it impossible for them to cherry pick any aspect (I've often encountered shills who simply refuse to quote entire posts it's that impossible to distort), and the reminder of their abuse serves to highlight to any newbies to the conversation what kind of monster they are.
Keep a running tally of their abusive and provocative comments (maybe in an external document complete with references). Eventually the abuse becomes so historical they have to ditch the sock account and create a new one, which undermines any attempt for them to 'establish reputation'.
A lot of you have had back and forths on 'flat earth'. Rather than dealing with the topic, I propose this:
The Sherlock Holmes principle:
In the book series written by Conan Doyle, Sherlock Holmes is oblivious to which way the solar system works, much to the surprise of Watson. Sherlock goes on to explain his mind is an 'attic' of which he must be careful to only preserve that information which is useful, to which Sherlock asks 'what does it matter if the earth rotates around the sun, or the sun the earth?'.
Sherlock Holmes principle is thus: don't bother wasting time learning about or arguing on topics that ultimately don't impact you or that you can do nothing about. It does not matter, in your present scope of things, if the earth is round or flat.
Determining if a topic falls under the Sherlock Holmes principle:
1) Is the information I'm presently learning going to be useful, now or in the foreseeable future?
2) Is the information something I can act on? (EG use, work with)
If the answer to both questions is no, then the topic definitely falls under the Sherlock Holmes principle, and should be disregarded (for example, knowing if the earth is flat or round is only useful if you have rockets, satellites, ships etc to launch or navigate).
If the information is something you can act on but isn't useful, it again, is a good candidate for being disregarded. For example, you can act on the knowledge methos sweets cause soda bottles to erupt, but is it useful? Not really.
If something is useful but can't be acted on (EG theoretical concepts) then it likely should be retained. Can you 'act' on imaginary sums? No, but their results can give you new insights.
Likewise, don't be misled by shills trying to get you to debate over topics that aren't relevant. For all I know there could be cheese people high in orbit who enjoy telepathic TV shows on a really cheap intergalatic airwave: does knowing it actually help me or is it something I can change or act on? Not at all. Waste of time.
Stay focused anons.
Shill report Saturday June 24, 2018
Shill Condition 1
A scheduled Q&A session tonight with Q brought a flood of tag team kayfabe shills. 2 or more shills would pretend to fight with each other over an odd tangent.
Support shills would then take one side or the other side of the fake 'argument'.
This kayfabe tactic is to create the appearance of infighting to make anons get disgusted and leave the board. Shills have been unable to provoke anons into infighting, and so have had to create fake arguments in order to artificially portray an atmosphere of conflict.
After the faked arguments have progressed and the support shills have bolstered the fake fights, concern shills interject and comment on the faked arguments like 'wow there was so much infighting today'. And 'Why all the infighting, guise'? specifically labeling the arguments as INFIGHTING.
Anons get into hot debate sometimes, as debate can get hot in a free and open speech zone, but anons never label this infighting. Only shills label conflict..that they created…as 'infighting'.
The arguments over tangents were not anons. Shills set up the fights, and both pretended to take sides and complain about the fights they had created.
This type of tactic is called Kayfabe
Major misdirection Psyops so far:
Please add to list as they are dredged up
Nordic World Order
A thread designed to chase down red herrings supposedly connecting the Vikings to being the Deep State Cabal. Majority of posts in the thread were shills or anons messing with the shills. Eventually all connections led to ancient Israelites and Nimrod anyway. Still hanging around for a giggle.
VOP Muh child trafficking
Major OFF site psyops intended to whip anons into a frenzy and get them to go to a physical site in arizona to lay seige to law enforcement officers. Run by the very same agent provocateur who went to 'help' the bundy ranch by agitating them, and getting them to do stupid things until they were shot. No anons were stupid enough to go get Bundy'd or Waco'd. Went away as fast as it appeared.
Distraction psyop whereby a spoopy mysterious poster who signs himself R is supposedly the next Q. Summary: JFK jr is still alive and talking to grays. Nobody biting. Contained to their own thread. Majority of posts in the threads are of shills pretending to support each other (they dont even talk like anons) and some anons messing with them. Still active as of this date. go have fun. Make a spoopy post or something.
Shill report June 27, 2018
NEW Shill tactic making itself known and growing.
They will now be known as Pantifa-raid shills.
The Pantifa-raid shills attempt to convince anons to take to the streets and engage antifa, violent liberals, and protestors (rioters) yadda yadda. And of course they are accompanied by flanking pantifa-raid shills who support the suggestion to get violent just like the liberals.
Of course anons aren't biting, but newfags may think that's us talking, so we do have to shut down the shills calling for physical action.
WWG1WGA so no physical measures will be taken until Q or POTUS makes the call. We know who we are, and we are not them.
What do you think about the "Starcode" thread?
It feels like misdirection and a time sink to me at least.
Didn't Jerome Corsi mention it? Possibly?
me, im not ruling anything out in the metaphysical or spiritual realms. There is definitely more to heaven and earth than we know and we don't know the nature of God, the universes or other dimensions. We know other dimensions and universes exist because quantum scientists have proved they do through the movement of quantum particles, but Im sure they aren't telling us everything. Q knows but has promised he'd open the door for those of us who want to know. Scary-exciting stuff.
The Cabal is certainly trying to do something with evil. They believe pretty darn strongly in evil and child sacrifice to manifest evil. So Ill take the evidence of their actions and their control of Cern that evil is knocking, and that means Good is close at hand too.
Really, only the FE (flat earth) threads and posters are shills, but they've been around forever and nothing new. They exist so that people can later point to the chans and say 'OH see, they believe in Flat earth so they are all nuts!' and nobody will pay attention to us. FE has been going on for YEARS so that nobody would pay attention to anything anons said. We're all conspiracy nutters because some FE shills post.
But threads on the metaphysical and spiritual are just anons trying to make sense of the eternal question 'Why are we here?' not shills, just human. Q says the further we go, the more unrealistic it becomes. It's ok to theorize till we see that door open and walk through it. or not.
Update on the Nordic World Order distraction thread; NF anons took it over, and have connected dots back to ancient Israelites. They have been doing fairly decent digs on those connections and have turned it into a nice side thread.
They plan to rename the next thread to the Nimrod World Order.
win goes to anons
People who don't want to be united with "based" blacks or jews are not shills. They are more woke than you and are trying to wake you up.
This is hilarious as I'm the OP of the Nordic thread. I only chose that name because I saw another anon suggest the theory and I was triggered by seeing a Viking ship compared to a Phoenician ship.
I've since learned that the Phoenicians never really existed, that was just a name the Greeks gave the Canaanites. Bad people.
As for Israelites, I think they represent a sect of Canaanites with a completely fabricated history that was trying to break away from their evil. They failed almost all the time as evidenced in the Bible itself, even King David and especially Solomon fell back to their evil babylonian roots. I think there were a few white hats that meant well, but ultimately the temptation to rule the known world was always too strong.
Christianity, the original one, was a Egyptian/Greek operation to radically reform the Canaanites. It might have been directed or might have happened naturally due to the Hellenistic influences growing in the day and the Roman occupation made them weak.
Ultimately I think it's clear that Babylon is behind almost everything and their most active front has always been the Canaanites. This does not lend to any racist ideology, however, as its clear many of them don't want to be evil. But its also impossible to deny that the Canaanites expanded all over the Mediterranean, Iberia, England, likely America, Africa, and as empires fell they positioned themselves as the rising Phoenix.
They created freemasonry, originally known as the Mysterious Force as a way to combat whatever force of the universe kept fucking over their plans.
The Phoenix is often confused for the eagle. The red/white stripes and cross is their call sign.
How am I doing?
Better Practices for Reporting on Extremists, Antagonists, and Manipulators Online
>We live in a time where new forms of power are emerging, where social and digital media are being leveraged to reconfigure the information landscape. This new domain requires journalists to take what they know about abuses of power and media manipulation in traditional information ecosystems and apply that knowledge to networked actors, such as white nationalist networks online. These actors create new journalistic stumbling blocks that transcend attempts to manipulate reporters solely to spin a beneficial narrative – which reporters are trained to decode – and instead represent a larger effort focused on spreading hateful ideology and other false and misleading narratives, with news coverage itself harnessed to fuel hate, confusion, and discord.
Shill report June 28, 2018
Old tactic 'Q is comped'
New spin 'But thats ok because reasons'
so yawn much bored
Shill thread, desperate clown measure as they lose their grip on the world
>>1929865 Previous (#2432)
>The Cabal is certainly trying to do something with evil. They believe pretty darn strongly in evil and child sacrifice to manifest evil.
This feature of the Cabal aligns horridly well with the example of the "last prophet" and the ideology that is at war with the West.
>If you see TONS of breads, hit up the catalog, and wait things out until BO makes confirmation that they have been cleaned up!!!
thanks for clearing that up
UNDER ACTIVE ATTACK
June 28, 2018
DDOS SITE UNDER ATTACK
anon hit target
They are coming for us hard
There is no shillcon level for this.
Because this is not shilling.
This is war.
noticed this the last couple days
namefag larp responses to Q as Pam
trying to either promote pamphlet anon being Q
or trying to discredit Q because pamphlet has the IQ
of belly button lint.
either way, im monitoring the situation and will
update if others pile on
'''How To Spot Fake Graphicsfag or Planefag Posts:
Was a shill posting loads of aerial shots and claims of big connections in the bread recently, same time as a baker (either or shill or undiscerning) making them notables. Later in the bread, shill went full chutzpah, posted some ridiculous text that made it obvious. In case it was the latter kind of baker being fooled, made this infographic.
The muh comped Q is muh MOSSAD shill showing up again, spouting envy from the depths of from the >>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cYZ8dUgPuU ……………. shill factory. Replies to itself (2nd pic), replies to most anon retorts by projecting & calling anons mossad and/or shill primarily, at times attacking with name calling & other emotional triggers. Very effective shill when it comes to getting replies & sliding the board, as it tries to reply to all replies to it. Minimum 10-15 posts per bread.
disregard above, link altered upon posting, NOICE!! KEK
thoughts on wrong synonym challenge/responses?
SAUCE ON THE GLOBAL SHILL MACHINE:
http:// mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/us/politics/russia-facebook-twitter-election.html (Muh russia shill news it's cabal)
CABAL LOST EVERYTHING
THE ONLY THING THEY GOT LEFT IS THE SHILL BOTS. THIS IS THEIR LAST STAND ON THIS BOARD. KINDA PATHETIC IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
This is how these shills control us and why this board is so COMPED:
ANY time god or spirituality make notables or flood the board with information- THEY ramp up the porn, hate speech, KEKHET magick, attacks and vitrol. They call for the removal of anything in the bread that leads anyone to real answers from symbolic gestures of god.
They try to make you think this is the only place and the last 18 years is all of history.
They want you to FEAR god not LOVE each other
For god is you and god is me and god is all creation, to hate or kill anything out of anger or covet (even a bug) is to hate or kill god.
please tell david to stop with the pleadians
i will stop saying he has a small penis
anything with "guise" (guys)
anything with "so blah blah blah"
anything with "i'm not [shilling, sliding, concernfagging i'm just blah blah blah"
"i'm just blah blah blah"
all shill slide language patterns.
http://liespotting.com/ ←worth reading
(reposting from >>1963791 by request)
Since the attack of 06/28, a bevy of new shills have hit the general.
They are the same type as have been shitting up 4chan/pol since just before Q's move. They are best described as 'contempt shills'. Contempt shills are a more refined subset of division shills, since they work to cause division PLUS change the narratives happening in the thread. Contempt shills are now the norm on 4chan/pol. We always had 1 or 2 on qresearch, but now they have arrived here in much larger numbers. You will spot them since they have a distinct way of speaking that is NOT the way we talk.
To an anon who came to Q on 8ch, they will sound completely hateful.
To an anon whose 1st chan home was 4ch/pol, they will recognize them as the shills who shit up 4chan.
Let me illustrate an example–let's say an anon, using an concept that was agreed upon earlier in the day and confirmed with Q, posts something along the same line as an earlier bread. The contempt shill will come back with 'that's stupid, everybody knows its not that way, and anyone who believes that is a sucking turdfaggot. kys'.
Now, of course anons will say "kys" but by the way anons use it in their post you can tell it is the anon type of mocking-locker room hazing to bring us all onto the same team. In the same way we call each other planefags and clockfags. There is no CONTEMPT behind it.
However, when a contempt shill uses kys, they use it in such a way that you can tell by their syntax and format of their post that there is real contempt and disgust behind it. The same way they use 'faggot' and 'nigger'–they use those words contemptuously and more importantly —they use them divisively.
It only takes a very few contempt shills in a thread, and they will tag team to change the direction of a thread AND change important concepts that you might hold. Their contempt is to get you to feel bad about your post, and abandon the idea that you just presented. So if they come back at you with contempt, you will know you're on the RIGHT track.
They are usually always also muh joos shills, snarling contempt at anyone who doesn't ride the 'muh joos' train. So if you suspect a contempt shill set is operating in the thread, say something nice about jews and watch them REEEEE. But it is best to ignore anyone who uses contempt to divide. That is the MOST important thing to remember–WWG1WGA will get you through a LOT of shill attacks. Hang on.
If it uses contempt to try to shut you down, it is not anon. It IS a shill
If it uses contempt to try to change your thinking, it is not anon. It IS a shill
The dough for that post has grown so much in the past four months.. kek ;)
Why do we have (((Triple parantheses)))?
We may not attack others based on racial/religious basis.
THEY want race war.
THEY want religious war.
THEY want political war.
THEY want class war.
When WE, the Patriots rightfully call out their group, we are called "muhjooshills".
ENOUGH. This ends, now.
There is a very good reason many "truthful" reaches of the internet have a common theme.
jewry and semitic influence is at least #1 on cabal useful pawn list.
TRUTH bends knee to no one.
That's what this whole thing is about.
Good vs. EVIL. We know them by their actions.
We know (((shills))) do all these things.
They will not succeed. We already beat them.
BV and others tried their best.
We beat them.
We can not be stopped
Shills are paid. There are no unpaid shills.
Around 2000, the JIDF began organized online campaigns to mobilize support against any spots or statements of what they perceive might be anti-semitism anywhere on the web.
By 2007, the JIDF was policing all websites everywhere for any perceived violence or hatred (as defined by them). JIDF's paid network grew, and it went active in 2008 on MYSPACE and the newer Facebook. Suddenly on Myspace, people used the new 'anti-bullying' laws to protect children, to shout down whatever they didn't like, and it mirrored the sudden rise of 'offense' culture. Myspace began changing its format drastically, in response to all the 'complaints' it was getting. As people left Myspace, JIDF followed.
JIDF tactics include those primarily used to discredit the board and SHUT IT DOWN. Posting nazi imagery, black people hate threads, and biracial porn to point to.
In 2004, Media Matters was started by David Brock to counteract conservative news, and began an aggressive criticism of conservative media and outlets to push the narrative in a left leaning direction.
Media Matters remained concerned primarily with undermining conservative news and media, up through 2010 in what Brock himself called an "all-out campaign of 'guerrilla warfare and sabotage.'" After they more or less completed their guerilla campaign against Fox news and other conservative news, they began pursuing all online spaces as well to shout down conservative views everywhere, not just news outlets.
Media Matters spread out into additional 'sub' organizations to control the web and destroy conservative voices and media: Correct the Record, and the current incarnation, American Bridge. But they are still all David Brock-operated and Soros-funded, and the goal is to suppress conservative voices and news. Brock tactics included any designed to shout you down and cause division. Contempt shills are Brock. Kayfabe shills are Brock. Splitters are Brock. Attempts to twist the tone of the board are Brock. Calling Q a larp is Brock.
Though both sites have both, and both sets learn tactics from each other,
currently, most shills on 4ch/pol are JIDF, and,
currently, most shills on 8ch/qresearch belong to Brock.
American Bridge serves as the internet guerilla warfare arm of the deep state. However, actual clowns use infiltration, detailed larp and more involved psyop tactics, honeypots, and agent provocateurs. If its trying to get you organized in real life (to ID you), its clown. If its calling for you to spill out in the street, its clown. And if it tries to get you against the military or for you to seige against Law Enforcement, its clown.
Last night baking had a couple shills attempting to look like they were analyzing encrypted data in Q graphics. Have seen this tactic before. The idea is either to a) dazzle the non-tech savvy anons into feeling too stupid to understand what these autists are talking about and feel resentful/unincluded, or b) disgust the tech-savvy newfags into thinking /qresearch/ is a bunch of tard frauds. And if baker is new or a shill, this crap may even be put in notables: Mission Q-Delegitimazation successful.
The answer is ALWAYS to track ID’s, then the circle jerk nature of their posts becomes more obvious. The only “anons” participating are the same shills that a) have no posts of substance besides this supposed “digg”, and b) have elicited no other interest or conversation from other anons that DO have posts of substance. See Decode pic for more detail/tells.
More nonsense designed to imitate legit clockfagging. Gives itself away with too much info, the "dazzle" effect of sleight-of-hand magicians. But if you zero in on any of it and the "connections" are random, meaningless.
This "Muh FreeIran Is a Hoax" shill was on all night and into the morning.
Remember newfags, Q told you to TRUST YOURSELVES. As gruff and detail-focused as real autists may seem, your gut should help you discern that they are speaking truth in earnest. And with these shills, your gut should make you feel confused, uneasy. Train your mind with knowledge, but TRUST YOUR GUT too. The two working together is discernment.
Cognitive dissonance tactics. They try to use social politeness to then force through an otherwise unlikeable proposal ('Sorry, but I think…').
A person who speaks truth is NEVER SORRY FOR SPEAKING TRUTH.
They will NEVER APOLOGISE.
They will TELL YOU DIRECTLY, TO YOUR FACE, THAT YOU, SIR, ARE WRONG.
They will NOT, beat around the bush.
If a truth-speaker doesn't know, THEY ASK QUESTIONS, or they will admit THEY DO NOT KNOW.
Social politeness is used by CONFORMISTS, WHO ARE AFRAID OF UPSETTING THE CROWD.
If I think Q is a psyop, I will tell you straight that's what I think. I won't say 'sorry if I hurt your feelings'. Anyone who has been in the fight for truth long enough knows THE TRUTH UPSETS EVERYBODY (there's always going to be someone upset).
It cannot be sugarcoated, it cannot be hidden, or denied, it shoots straight, it does not 'pander' to an audience; it just is.
Belief cannot be feigned. The shills know their messages are shit, which is why they backpedal, try social conformity by being polite. If politeness was the truth, the British people would be the sole source of wisdom.
I've made some controversial views on Q, but I shoot straight. Fuck those indecisive quacks!
The full David Brock memo on defeating Trump on the Internet
Some snippets are in the thread above, but Q referenced it in the general so it bears looking at much closer.
Shill Report 7/4/2018
Usual division tactics: nowfags, muh larp shills, plus calling for violence.
Violence shills: Stepping up their calls for anons to take to the streets and do battle with antifa and other leftist elements.
muh meme magick: Entertaining shill from 7/3, ' you guys do not know the forces you are dealing with and are heading to your doom'.
Lol you inbred jewish retard
Shill report July 5, 2018
Shill tactics noted:
Sliding, distraction, muddying
Q is a larp
This board is comped and is censoring everyone
/qresearch all boards
R post threads (muddying, distraction)
nonsensical or 1 post slide threads
"This board is censoring people" appearing in multiple threads
This is a Great Effort, Thanks for exposing these Nerd Virgins,lol
Nice discovery. Media Matters are shill spewers who have been trying to invade every platform from conspiracy forums, to open speech outlets, to social media sites. Their arguments are usually quite piss-poor and, as you guessed, illogical.
From a cursory reading, it looks like they're admitting that Trump - one of the older presidents to take power - is whooping their ass with digital media, and clearly have indicated they've overrelied on old media.
Which means the democrats are bringing their censorship war using big money in politics to your frontdoor. Their goals include, apparently, digging up dirt (which makes them scumbags), trying to discredit people (still scumbags) and otherwise humiliate or attack people who don't agree with their authoritarian dictatorship.
I've never read a Republican memo that has called for people to be actively attacked on media. Says a lot about the democrats. No wonder they're falling apart.
It's kinda sad reading this document - the scammers believe their own scam, calling everything that isn't pro-democrat 'fake news'. It's sad really, and a very bizarre delusion at that.
Without even blinking, they then bitch about a "climate of harassment" despite doing this very thing to Trump and his supporters. What a bunch of two-faced hypocrites those assholes are.
They're also admitting that people who don't agree with them are 'multiplying exponentially' to the point they can't monitor it all with human eyes (I thought they said they had the popular vote? LOL).
Trying to use predictive technology to "neutralise" people (sounds like a fucking CIA op). Who are these corrupt creepos who feel like only they can control the political and journalistic discourse? The excessive influence of Media Matters is clearly a corrupting resource.
Furthermore, it looks like they hassled Google and Facebook into censoring people.
If your video got demonitised or censored… it looks like Media Matters is the bastard culprit.
"And their [Republican] membership consists of weak individuals, often recruited into themovement because they fear or resent women and/or habor racial animosity"
Nice one Media Matters - will you and your snowflake wussies be taking down your safe spaces any time soon? Begs the question who are really the 'weak individuals', aye?
Can't stand to keep reading such nonsense. They're clearly a corporation with a deluded power control complex that requires they censor everybody they disagree with by trying to influence social media outlets into silencing opposition.
Rules of the GAME
Pick your card. You can run more than one card. Old ladies play several cards at a time, you can too! Flap those bingo wings! There are 10 different cards; you can play all 10.
Watch for shills. When you spot one acting up, mark your square! There are 51 possible shill squares, and you only have 25 squares per card, so this is a long game. MARK YOUR SQUARE with any bit of graphic you want; Obama's nose, Corsi's Dick, Hillary's shoe. You can resize your card to accommodate more creative graphics to mark the squares.
ANY regular bingo win is a win- horizontal, vertical, diagonal. You can start or stop playing any time as the game will always be in rotation. You can pick up a card any time in this thread: https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/1561031.html
Winners will win the internet! We also expect to be highly entertained by the graphic markers you use.
Second set of cards,
10 cards total
It is incredibly suspicious this OP of the clown college uses (((muhjooshills))) and makes no mention of JIDF or other jewish shills that work hand in hand with the cabal throughout the known history.
JIDF is a fact, and they play all sides.
Starting this kind of bread just to spout this kind of msm nonsense and (((muhantisemitism))) variations is exactly what a clown would do in order to take the flak off of the jewish clowns who definitely ARE attacking others based on racial and religious grounds.
You need to answer to this, OP. You are starting to glow despite numerous anons pointing out the obvious and you refuse to stop lying about this.
Please note JIDF is on the board several times for discussion, and in the bingo cards.
There is no favoring of one type of shill over another. All shills are treated equally in this thread.
(part 2) So if you have JIDF tactics to expand upon, please add them.
Complaining that nobody else is adding them, doesn't make them be added to the thread any faster. Thank you for volunteering.
To get you started, I've attached a pic of JIDF ops. You can take it from here.
Let me chime in here a bit.
See the above anons:
Problem here is that the whole "muhjooshill" thing is a reddit-tier JIDF tactic word made specifically to be 'memable'. Same syntaxes and tones are being used across the net in commentary sections of medias, alternate media platforms (brietbart, zerohedge etc). We recognize them.
Imagine if board owner or volunteers started saying "we have no position on anti-semitism" etc.
It's a straight up msm tactic. Q is trusting us to expose truth, not perpetuate msm lies, globalist mentality of "muhracism" and be "fair".
He and POTUS did not come to us for cucks and cowards.
We fight any enemy, be they groups, individuals of any stripe that are traitors.
I hope you understand where we are coming from, OP.
What the fuck are we, reddit?
Also, what the fuck is up with the antifungalwhatnot? Fucking hell.
Draining the swamp will remove cabal and black hats from the FBI, the CIA, Congress, Hollywood, pharma and medicine, our industries, schools and school boards, charities, banking and finance, foundations, trade and export, manufacturing, agriculture, tech, media etc, but the organizations and structure will still stand. No 'group's will be targeted; its not all FBI, not all CIA, not all politicians, not all military, not all masons, not all celebrities, not all muslims etc.
True, the Cabal hides behind the JQ, but anyone harping on 'all jews' in advance of The Great Awakening by normies is as detrimental at this point, as any other division shill. You shove a stormfront horsepill down normie throats, they will have nothing to do with the movement. With known results like that, harping on it becomes just another way to undermine the board and the movement.
What did Q say? Israel for last. Have the foresight to understand WHY.
I fully agree - only that you underestimate the degree to which the brainwashing has taken place in the last 300+ years at least.
The psyop runs centuries.
We decided to draw back on some of the more forward presentations and are instead easing them in, first breaking the idea of 'muh racism' etc surface level stuff first, aka annihilating the FEAR, after which the JQ issue can be hammered/fine tuned in.
The visceral element of the movement cannot be overstated, and any show of weakness equals defeat on all fronts. We know when to dial it back and forth - and when to keep the messages on target.
It's a tough pill to swallow for those whose moral precepts are compromised - that is why 'shock' is necessary as occasion demands.
Finess and Force.
Real problem being this is something that if not kept on its toes, it can too easily be brushed over in a cucked fashion.
Let's not argue over whether it is 'nice' or not - that has little to do with all this. At times fire must be met with fire/fury to produce the necessary results.
RESULTS. This won't be pretty, but nothing worth fighting for is.
Additionally, it is also a fact that jews and muslims are in reality two sides of the same coin. Both are semitic, both are middle eastern (cesspit of human degeneration and corruption), and both are thoroughly exploitative and are LIARS.
This fact cannot be overstated.
No one chasing good should be unaware of EVIL.
Although the central core of this issue is not race or blood, nevertheless these are HUGE factors which drives this movement and definitely our enemies. Lose this, and you might as well have given up already.
We always attack and defend from position of STRENGTH on ALL fronts, and our enemies face us on OUR terms, not theirs.
Hope this is clear enough for everyone. We have only one shot at this now.
There is only one Commander in Chief for this fight. We take his lead and timing.
>We take his lead and timing.
Pic also very related. I presume we have all seen his reaction to the bibi meeting.
Also, he took a LONG time to have to put on that charade in front of the pile of rocks.
Going to have to verbally whack this post as straight up disinformation.
Pointing out the existence of bots (I own a forum bot, funnily enough, and have described to others how they can make their own with Python+mechanize+beautiful soup), JIDF (hires university students to post pro-zionist ravings, public knowledge), shills (paid posters, public knowledge - see the Media Matters link), psyop (psychological operation - publicly well known) are not terms used by shills…
…But they are terms a shill would try to discredit.
So I call bullshit.
"Trump campaign's digital team outperformed Democrats at every level"
- David Brock, Media Matters:
CORRECTION. DISREGARD ABOVE
sorry made wrong Facts post reference boys
This is what jewish internet defense force looks like. Really. A bunch of non-blood related "converts" and their useful idiots lying their ass off daily.
Why is this so hard to post this???
Don't mean to be bungling numbers... Other posts not relevant subject, but won't hurt you to read.
FACTS!! THIS ONE!!
(replying to 1467797 originally)
(replying to 2052011 ABOVE today)
I disagree. Both offense and defense summed up on this board:
you are a kike/Jews are evil
uhah we got the pass/we not evil
Is Not my message. Is not God's message. Wrong message on both sides. Ahhhh. Both Sides?? BS. Wrong. Stupid, Worthless message.
Who's message? Track it, out of the hive.
And that's a
straight shot to you.
Both sides/full of MAN shit.
See See See See.
Keep climbing and looking up
See See See See
Oh, there's the truth.
Discern ancient/nazi/zionists century old propaganda. We have had enough of that shit. 2 sided. That should be your Q clue right there. Who are you to say anyway?
It's not about the blood anymore.
Look at the blood bloody Alice?
Look at the life. Dark to light.
It's about the graft.
It's always been about the root.
jesus christ right on time with "i am thoth" "muh Q is larp we are god" fucking shills and idiots.
your (((people))) are literally walking and talking meme.
As Q says, arm yourself and pray.
Your BS is worthless.
And so is your understanding
(((Full))) (((OF))) (((shit)))
See, I can use your stupid((( ))) too
Doesn't change the plan.
Shills can't go a single breath without calling people boomers. Common against Q or any given target subject. Bizarre "divide and conquer" strategy, targeted at the core halfchan userbase who are generally younger, attempting to make [target subject] seem less cool or legitimate, cause conflict along generational lines
Also the phrase "fake and gay"
Very dated term no one really uses anymore. They must've looked it up on Encylcopedia Dramatica or something. Thought they could kill 2 birds with one phrase, establishing *chan "street cred" with a shibboleth and having a convenient term to dismiss anything they don't want to believing
And of course their timeless classic, "debunked." No introduction necessary
Considering Q and Potus
and many here
Love and Serve God.
Or did you miss that?
For love of God and Country?
In God we trust?
Yeah, you missed it. Might be beneficial to re-read crumbs.
So I respect your clown knowledge. Tell me
Is this guy a shill? I hate waisting my time with a Soros paid dip shits—
Says Q larp and accuses "your people" of being God? Shill?
Can someone take over looking after this thread? Its an extensive amount of research on shills. Im unable to do it after today. Thank you. Keep fighting!
Why not let it die? Basics guidelines are provided, is that not it's purpose?
Here, you go a step further making judgments on some legitimate matters posted, the truth of which is still buried. In that regard, you stop organic awakening. You should not be deciding or judging that. Programming has been extensive on humanity and you are not an all-seeing eye.
Not talking about Jews, kikes, larp posts that spew. Don't you think we get that by now?
due to their own agenda of pushing Jew hate, many of the Jew shills are Anons from within. They coordinate efforts w outsider organized shill attracts. So it is not like you say.
These are the Lenin lovers imbedded. Posers. Even breadmakers. 2 faced traitors. Easy to spot with their introductory passive-agressive language framing their thread, then they interact and insert same on other threads.
Clowns shill threads clown anons, been here a long time.
God isn't the pusher of hate.
How do atheist God hating QAnons deal with Qs love of God? And the God-loving Patriots? The enemy within.
Watch the hate on this post.
Hate and contempt.
Come out come out wherever you are
Those are actually pretty high quality references and cover a lot of what shills will do.
From a legal standpoint, the shills are liable according to the following laws:
1) Libel, slander, defamation (they often hurl abuse at targets that are untrue)
2) Harassment, stalking (they often follow their targets for days on end, or try to harass them off a service or area)
3) If law enforcement shill, their activities can overlap with frame-up, entrapment or setups (all illegal)
4) If the shills are foreign agents and they are gathering data on citizens, this counts as espionage (especially if the data they 'accidentally' acquire or read happens to be classified materials - guaranteed if they've tried to attack WikiLeaks etc)
5) Fraud, deception - they often misrepresent a phone number, service or situation as being one thing, when it's actually another
6) Incitement to violence (more a UK thing but you get the idea) - shills often try to provoke or encourage people to conduct violent acts or entice people to act violently
7) Pornography laws (depending on state)
8) Child pornography laws (given the posting of child post is often used by shills to take down facebook pages, threads, comments etc)
9) Wasting police time (especially if they try to get people to call the FBI, police, etc with their phone fraud scams), which leads on to…
10) Perverting the course of justice, obstruction of justice and perjury, depending on circumstance, and…
11) Any of the endless left-leaning laws that allow people to be jailed, sued, fined etc for 'discrimination' (isn't it wonderful how hate speech censorship laws can backfire so horribly?)
12) Any legal reprisals for any foreign agent trying to operate in a given country (I do believe spies are exempt from the geneva conventions, especially if they pose as a civilian - which means the shills, if foreign agents, can just 'magically disappear')
13) Impersonation, identity theft or any of the like (especially when they try to impersonate a poster and falsely represent themselves as such)
14) Whichever country's laws they broke whilst residing in that country
15) If the shills work within the US, then it is treason. If they're employed outside of the US by people within the US, then the people within the US can be charged with treason, the ones outside count as foreign agents, so the other elements apply
16) Assuming they're trying to flood a forum with posts or threads without permission, you could stretch in some computer abuse laws (an attempt at denial of service)
17) If they are claiming something politically, and they're a political entity, under FEC laws they must disclose their political affiliation (attention Media Matters shills: you are breaking this law right now. Likewise, AIPAC)
18) If they are advertising a service falsely or fraudulent, then they must under FCC rules disclose it as an advert, and of course, it cannot be false or fraudulent
19) I believe, depending on state, there are laws against spam - given shills flood forums with garbage, this would constitute as breaking spam rules
20) Attempting to circumvent anti-bot checks with a bot without permission would constitute also computer abuse, as it violates the access permissions of the owner
21) Depending on state law, failing to disclose who your organisation is (even if not politically affiliated) or what your financial interests are, could violate a number of transparency laws
22) The shills failing to delete any data held on you would violate GDPR (yes, an EU law, but that's for the EU shills to get clobbered with - people outside the EU can apply for injunctions against EU based companies)
23) The shills failing to ask you explicit permission to datamine you prior to them doing so would violate GDPR
24) There's an infinite number of technicalities. I think the FBI classically abuse 'wire fraud', because the internet is over a wire, and the statements are fraudulent.
Good Shill Hunting!
"Trump campaign's digital team outperformed Democrats at every level"
- David Brock, Media Matters:
Having studied the shills talking points on here, those shill arguments in full:
1) Q is a LARP (appeal to authority fallacy)
2) This board is Comp'd (appeal to fear)
3) Baby Boomers (division)
4) Random inserts of women when making a bad argument (distraction)
5) The Bible is wrong and here's why (irrelevancy fallacy)
6) Q is a new age starcode hologram quantum supercomputer matrix diode geometric shape composed of the … <insert more strung together crap likely written by a bot using new age garbage here> (guilt by association/discredit by association)
7) [Duplicate threads] (appeal to repetition)
8) Why isn't Q talking about…? (appeal to silence, appeal to doubt)
9) Trump supporters are <racist/homophobic/white/men/stupid> (appeal to ridicule)
10) HERE'S MY LATEST CLEARLY GARBAGE THEORY, PLS DISCUSS (distraction/time wasting)
11) <some discussion on some twatter poster wondering if it's Q or LARP> (distraction - Q explicitly stated no outside communicates)
12) MUH <genitalia> (likely a troll, but easily a shill tactic)
13) Leave the board, it's under attack/vulnerable/other InfoSec scaremongering (appeal to fear, appeal to panic, non-attributed source)
14) [Someone pretending to be Q]
15) [Someone claiming to know Q personally]
16) I'VE DISCOVERED SOME EVIDENCE THAT ULTIMATE PROVES Q IS A FRAUD (Doctors hate this one piece of evidence etc etc)
Talking points that seem legitimate:
1) Q supports overthrowing Iran, is he JIDF?
2) Q supports attacking Syria, is he deepstate?
3) Is Q a psyop using intel resources to distract/delay/stop the chans discovering the truth of the deepstate?
4) Q has a bad choice of password (the 'Matlock' incident), is he as security savvy as he claims?
There's very few legitimate contrary talking points about Q. I've read slightly more reasonable ones off-site, but the majority are poorly thought out criticisms that don't reflect any prior research which are classic signs of a shill. The 'Q is a LARP' ones classically have no research, but the 'Q is a psyop' usually posits some level of backing (and this is a theory I've publicly presented myself, although there's nothing sufficient to make a clear claim either way).
LARPs never last years, and any reasonable person would have discounting LARP or trolling. Even if somehow it was, most of Q's elements are positive - encouraging political activism, and contrary to the moronic talking points of the media, this is a positive thing.
That said, there is clearly shilling and garbage posting going on. Most of the shills appear to be concentrated on the breads, with only a few keeping eye on tactical threads (like this one) or producing threads to clog up the catalogue.
You can disregard my observations if you want, this is more of a public 'note to self', just thought it'd be interesting to see if anyone had anything to add to this.
A good way to compare shill activity versus other threads is to use TTDDTOT (both part 1 and part 2). Because TTDDTOT is strategically unimportant (it won't be after I post this, so anything from this point forward can be disregarded), the shills don't bother particularly trying to trash the thread.
Compare TTDDTOT to a bread. A bread will have tons of garbage posts. Why does TTDDTOT - a place for 'irrelevant posts', so to speak - have fewer garbage posts than a bread where high quality research should be?: because shills are actively trashing the breads.
Pray tell, whose your legal editor?
So all the libel and slander some qanons put out, are they legally liable too under your legal theory? You know some do it.
And IF this is an anonymous board and an anonymous anon, or shill, makes an anonymous libelous statement, are you saying there is no expectation of anonymity here?
Shit. Crap. Fuck.
Shit, that's "who's" your legal editor. Don't want to be accused of dumbass bad contractions.
Try old lady grandma;)
Hugs to you all.
Just keeping it real.
Unlike the legal analysis.
Laughing is good.
Shill/Clown/Disinformation Police. Someone's gotta do it.
Success is "404 not found!!!"
Don't fit your mold.
I will call you out.
Grins to you all.
By the way, this is the correct way to deal with intruders. They hate it. Somehow they just go dead in their tracks.
Ignoring is allowing.
Ah, the desperate cries of the shills saying 'but please mummy make the bad laws go away'.
IP interception via the NSA or any number of end-point interception attacks. I bet 95% of you hardarses are running on Windows - if you are, you're already pwned by their EULA (even Paint fucking phone homes).
VPN? 9 times out of 10 they divulge the IP logs. Look up what happened to 'hide my ass' proxy - they divulged to the FBI.
Tor? Pwned - Operation Playpen.
DNS provider (ISP)? Pwned.
HTTPS on TLS 1.1 or earlier? Pwned.
ARM CPU? Pwned (Spectre, Meltdown).
Newer Intel CPU? Has IME, pwned.
IE/Firefox/Chrome/Edge (any 'older' browser)? Pwned
Newer browsers? Will be pwned (if they don't already leak data EG Chrome).
Linux - depends on whether or not it runs systemd. OpenBSD configured properly? You're in with a good chance.
Libre hardware? Even better.
You can 'scream' 'anonymity' as shills all you want.
But remember, you built and aided the authoritarian surveillance state - they literally have everything. Including when and where you connect. All they need is one weak link in the chain.
The fact you're terrified of the laws means you know you've broken them.
(GDPR offers no immunity to law enforcement as a provisio is that data for important services - EG healthcare, policing - means that data can be retained. Even without the provisio, would fall under public interest)
I'm not terrified: I don't go around posting false information or breaking the law.
But you guys sound like you're shitting your pants.
Doesn't matter if the IP is, ahem, 'hashed' (how strong is that hash boys? Strong enough you can confidently say it's secure? Obscurity is not security), you merely need a 'leak' somewhere.
Hypothetical: exploit on your browser logs every POST request you send to 8ch. Contents matched to your IP, from your machine, from your browser, and time of sending plus what is on the board publicly logged.
What could harvest that info? Windows, Chrome, an add-on with built in exploit, a device abusing Spectre on an older browser…
…you get the idea.
I know you guys aren't using Tor. Posting from Tor is disabled here. Oh, if you pay for your VPN, it basically confirms you are the owner of the IP (including free address).
Oh, and as a free tip, as you've seen with Trump, the pre-text to start surveillance is extremely flimsy (this is why you should always advocate privacy, and not leave fellows such as myself to devise methods to temporarily stall such incursions), once FISC approval is obtained (not required if you're foreign to America, note), then any tools of the trade can be deployed.
If you have Linux with systemd, it's pwned. That's any of the newer Linux OSes except Void Linux and parts of Devuan. BSD is also systemd free, but only OpenBSD concerns itself with security. How do I know such things? Maybe I'm a pretendfag - go digging online.
The only thing not pwned is a notepad and a pen and talking to someone in a really remote place away from any devices.
The only defense against any of this is to either not post anything that breaks the law (no wonder Trump beat Media Matters at the internet, it's clear you're fucking clueless as to how technology works), or to assume worst case scenario, believe in what you write, and have the courage - like so many others - to face the music for what you believe in.
Or use parody. Parody is a good workaround. Only applies if you're American, though, sorry foreign agents, no dice for you. And even less so if you're British (police hate a lot of twitter jokes, apparently).
There's no guarantee you specifically will be prosecuted, law enforcement resources are limited, but at the same time you might want to consider how fucking easily compromised your devices are (how easy was it to get into Hillary Clinton's servers at Google, again?).
Hell, even if you had perfect protection, only requires one social engineering attempt to succeed and you're toast.
So don't go around screeching 'but anonymity' and 'but legal editors'. There's a reason why I can tag all of my posts with a papertrail a mile wide and not go to jail.
See that name?
Not anonymous. No proxy either.
Also, not in jail.
Some places (not here), I have the audacity to sign off with my real name.
Go ahead, examine how many of the devices you use are horribly pwned or have exploits, vulnerabilities or need updates for said exploits. Then come back and tell me if you're still anonymous.
Then ask yourself if you ever got unmasked as a shill, how would that shit go down?
Remember, a lot of shills who spoke with me jumped ship. Why do you need to lie and insult people anyway? Isn't that what evil people do?
Aww, managed to flush you out of your hidey holes. How cute.
Well that didn't take long, you poor shills. What's the phrase? 'G8 b8 m8 I r8 8'?
Did your supervisors ask to inquire further so you can determine what your legal situation is and whether or not I'm right?
Remember, you paid-for failure hacks (not quite capable enough to get a journalism job doing proper reporting, but crooked just enough to spew garbage everyday on a small board), it's not whether or not you convince me if you're legally culpable or not.
That's down to the judge. And I imagine with the SCOTUS picks you might be hard pressed to successfully appeal that level of corruption.
Edging your bets on Hillary Clinton trying to do her 'surprise appearance' for 2020 isn't a very sound legal strategy - you're aware even your methodology becoming public is basically condemnation, right?
A few questions for you democrat shills to answer, just out of curiousity:
1) If you believe in discrimination laws, why do you act so hostile towards people you don't know the nature of and accuse so speculatively? Isn't this a violation of your beliefs?
2) You appear to want to use freedom of speech, and yet try to stuff hate speech laws down everyone else's throat to censor theirs. If you're so supportive of freedom of speech, why create laws which are literally becoming your own noose?
3) If you hate guns so much, what's with the armed guards at your rallies?
4) If you believe in open transparency, why do you do everything in secret?
5) If your issue is fake news and lying, why willingly lie yourselves? Truth doesn't come in the form of a pre-written corporate script.
6) If you hate corporations and shady dealings with foundations so much, why do you work for one?
7) If you're paid, how do you think they earn that money?
8) If you're a volunteer, why do it under the banner of a political party and not independently so you're not subject to peer pressure to forcefully conform?
9) Do you agree with everything on your scripts? If not, why not? (No need to answer that one, but an answer would be nice), if so, what evidence does it supply to back up it's claims?
10) Do you agree a nonpartisan outlet should be directly influenced by an organisation with a clear political bias or side? If not, why claim CREW is nonpartisan when it doesn't involve any Republicans, independents, libertarians or green party members?
11) Do you take the job to support a family, or is it purely for your own ends? Why not take another job? Or did this pay you the highest compared to other jobs in your area? Who do you think was responsible for the issues with the jobs market? Corruption within politics?
12) If you favour socialism, how do you plan to fund this? Especially considering the +$140 trillion dollar debt?
13) Is gender or skin colour the sign of a competent leader? If not, what is? Who would count as 'qualified' in your book? Someone who merely supports your views? What if a qualified person was to disagree with those views? Would you listen, or just ridicule?
14) How far do you think subterfuge will get you before it gets exposed? (In some cases, it already has, BIRDDOG).
15) Do you think the 50/50 split was a protest at the mishandling of Bernie Sanders? Especially given the reasons for the Electoral College vote? If so, what have you implemented to prevent another popular candidate (EG Bernie Sanders) from being ousted by Super-PACS in your primaries?
16) If you've pre-settled on Hillary Clinton for 2020, is that truly democracy, given how people have shown you how they felt about her? Do you actually have a viable alternative candidate? Have you even looked?
17) You called Trump a warmongerer, but so far peace overtures in North Korea and Afghanistan has disproven that (with the possibility of other diplomatic overtures), especially given the former is unprecedented, would you consider the statement to be inaccurate, and if not, why not?
And no, I'm not available for recruitment. Any attempts to do so will be exposed. That is all.
Chill out. No one is going to get dragged through legal here unless its some shill causing a national security issue. That's my point.
If they stalk you, or do anything else unlawful, that's an individual event and the victim would need to initiate w police report. We are cyberspace. They just want to fuck with Q and Potus and his Q elfs. Your long legal dissertation is unrealistic.
This is set up for anonymity. Period. Breaches don't change that.
But to call me a shill and then write a fucken novel about it, that's total BS, just because I pointed out you don't know what you're talking about, will, that's just your style.
Q says we're safe. What harm are anons doing? Nothing. Following rabbits.
What about them? Trying to plug up rabbit holes.
Q never gave a stand down order but you do. That's why the shills are still here. You let the enemy attack unfettered and don't even consider the effect on the audience newbies who see their shit lies. You make some self proclaimed rule stand down. Well, I'm glad the anons call them out, and I will continue to do so, and I have my suspicions about you… If you don't follow your narrative, oh you're a shill and here's a 15 page report on why you're a shill.
Not hiding. More BS. How's your bot factory? Lots of business?
F U L L. O F S H I T
Just discovered. You are the clown shill master. Though, you like to keep your "personalities" separate. You start shit threads, then you write novels about shills, when you're the shill!!
YOU are the one.
Very clever. WE SEE YOU
ANON POSER or is it Samael?
>If they stalk you, or do anything else unlawful, that's an individual event
Proof you haven't studied law. Police can initiate an investigation, arrest, prosecution with or without the victim's consent (having the victim consent just means you get an eyewitness). Do you really think domestic abuse victims want their 'loving husbands' to go to jail?
The fact I'm even here has raised your profile tenfold. Do you realise how many keywords I just dropped?
>This is set up for anonymity. Period.
The device you're posting from is not.
Also, 8ch runs on an outdated version of PHP, which if you might recall, even Apache has it's problems.
You also have a leak issue ID-wise. Need to check if an IP is an ID? Simply spoof a post and see what ID it returns.
You can trust in the board's security (which you've never seen). Question: have any anons ever gone to jail?
Ah, the salt. Beautiful. It's a pity this wasn't an actual troll attempt.
Didn't even touch the questions. Nice.
No multiple personalities here Mr MPD.
I find my ID to be very consistent.
So what you guys all scared of if you aren't shills (falsely accusing other people of being shills)? If you're not a stalker shill who does political advertising on the sidelines breaking FEC laws about disclosing political affiliation then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
You seem pretty angry about laws aimed at getting shills in jail.
Shall we watch to see if Trump adopts my suggestions?
Ask yourself, how did backpage go down?
"The chief executive of Backpage.com, a website investigators have described as an “online brothel,” pleaded guilty Thursday to California money-laundering charges, while the company itself pleaded guilty to human trafficking in Texas."
Money-laundering? Man, the technicalities you get criminals on these days.
Also, might want to inform your supervisor and CEO they'd be breaking RICO if any of you committed crimes under their behest.
Although usually pursued by law enforcement, RICO can also be pursued by a sufficiently well funded citizen army.
But as you're not breaking any laws (although you might have committed a crime against comedy with your terrible meme selections - wot, no willy wonka?) and you're all independent posters who act on your own whims, that will be of zero concern or relevance to you, right?
It's not like any other democrat funding pedophile peddling outlets go taken down on a technicality, so I guess Media Matters has absolutely nothing to fear in my remarks.
I'd love to hear what your proposed legal defences would be. You're aware claiming to be anonymous (John/Jane Doe filings are a thing) isn't going to get you very far in a dock, right? I presume any shill attendence will be with a paperbag over your head and all legal filings signed by 'Mysterio'?
Qchans have nothing to worry about, they're not posting anything dishonest and I imagine Trump likes em anyway (they're more than welcome to improve their own privacy and security and I encourage them to do so). But shills would shit pants. Shills aren't very technologically savvy.
So, hows Windows 10?
Asshole. Don't pull that shit with me.
I retired from working for attorneys
Anons should investigate you
LIAR SHILL CLOWN
YOU ARE EXPOSED
You run a bot company
MENTAL SHILL CLOWN
YOU CHANGE IDs.
YOU CHANGE YOUR HANDLE. Sage. You start clown shill threads
I'm RETIRED you babbling idiot
I work for WWG1WGA
You are a pathetic joke
The worst kind of double crosser
How much are they paying you?
Shill poser. No one wants to read your mindless SENSELESS babblings
The monkey has more writing ability than you and he's not a clown shill babbling shit poster
Trump, adopting your suggestions? Yeah, right
SURE THAT'S HAPPENING
LMAO. Delusional SHILL
FLAMING CIA SOROS CLOWN FAG SHILLS ROUND-UP TIME. [You belong under this banner with all your outed clown associates].
Traitor Infiltrator fake qanons
Wow, the hostility here is amazing.
I know you're not anons - firstly, they ignore shills (second, they claim people 'glow' if they're shills, they're not so vocal).
>Trump, adopting your suggestions? Yeah, right
>SURE THAT'S HAPPENING
And this is the point where I reveal my identity and you guys go batshit insane.
But yes, he does:
(What do you think the first letter in my name here stands for?)
Notice the timedatestamp of the post where I propose to postpone the military drills? (Forum uses MM/DD/YYYY format because American date format because reasons).
And compared to when that actually happened?
When did Trump cancel the military drills?
Trump really is the people's president, at least on some levels.
I mean, if you don't think you can influence Trump, why are you even here? Why get involved in exposing corruption in politics if you're powerless?
You guys are the real shills, but thanks for playing.
Also, PS, note how long that forum has been around for (long before Q was a thing). I think it serves as sufficient proof that I'm no shill, and I think it serves as excellent proof that your accusations are false.
(Did you honestly expect me to engage shills who always falsely accuse other people of being shills as a misdirection tactic without some slamdunk evidence to discredit your optics?)
Now, go home back to Media Matters before I open a real can of whoopass.
I love this comment though, ultimate proof confirming what I said:
>I'm RETIRED you babbling idiot
I guess you didn't read my posts on key tells for shills prior to posting that line of garbage because, as I already wrote before:
6) Another handler tip-off is they will either claim to be a student (in some cases they actually are: israel pays students to shill for israel, public knowledge, look it up) or 'retired' as an explanation for why they aren't working. In some rare cases they will claim to be 'self-employed' but with apparently no work ethic (basically: look for absences that should be there if 'normal').
If you're referring to the "J" my guess would be "jackass"
Go actually read a research thread YOU WOULD SEE ANONS calling out shills
up and down the whole thing.
Apparently, we don't listen to "your"directives to ignore the jackass shills, or "your" stand down order.
But then, YOU'RE only here to push YOUR narrative only. So I fully understand how you play.
It's entertaining though, how you change ids to answer your ownself and pose long long lists of "mindless commentary," and then post MORE posts on how your posts are "notable"
That part is really really really FUNNY.
Thanks. Love ya sweetie pie:))
And it is really really really really FUNNY how you think I'm a "team" from media matters…. That one cracks me up over and over….
Your analysis is a little off.
Signed: one human patriot calling out stupid clown shills.
Who's your handler is the relevant question?
Only, frankly, I think you're the one who is batshit crazy, and I think your post proves it. And I don't think you have any personal connection to Q, or our Beloved President. I do not detect any outstanding Intelligence on your part, in particular, except the ability to paste, copy and edit Wikipedia and other web articles, which compose many of your your posts.
After all, you missed the target entirely on me. (Slanderous statements full of lies calling me a liar) so intel decode….
Not so much.
In fact, according to YOUR own clown shill rules, that YOU write pages and pages and pages and pages and pages on,
YOU ARE A SHILL CLOWN
ACCORDING TO YOU.
Why mrke people go to another thread. Here ya go simcesince you
Oh. so now clown shows up
Tracing ids. Ooooooo.
Nothing to hidr
Guess you want to play
What's you point?
Notice how you never reply to valid questions? I do.
Go find me again. This is fun.
More BS, master circle jerk? I hope the Anons do come over here, and to TTD to see your circle jerk work for themselves.
You most certainly do have multiple ids, or a team working for you.
That TTD thread is probably 96-97% your generated posts talking to your self, with maybe 3-4% outsiders posting. Same with clown thread. A fraud.
And the only reason you were called out on legal, is you don't know what the hell you're talking about and you're such an arrogant know it all, you have to ALWAYS be right.
And yes, per your BRILLIANT legal theories, you should stop talking slanderous shit about me. And you know I'm not a shill, you tracked my posts. Namefag.
Just deal with the memes.
You deserve the message.
Circle jerk bot maker
You: >clearly shills shitting pants over getting their balls ripped legally"
Start here. No anon would appreciate your shit talk with your little condescending non-stop bullshit and you never shut up!
And your circle jerk fuckery is verifiable
You are a shill.
Oops, here goes another meme.
Clearly didn't peruse the link or use your brain.
That's okay, from where I'm standing all you have is verbal abuse, image spam and hostility. If you checked my link though - you'd see I have about 4 years worth of research at my back and one hell of a ton of proof I'm not a shill.
To the casual observer, they will have already clicked that link, seen I'm a genuine wearer of tinfoil hats and realised that, in actual fact, *you*, are the shill.
They will then contrast the quality of my writings - both here and there - to the subpar quality of your, ahem, 'memes' and vitrolic abuse. The kind of abuse a democrat would spew out against a republican for wearing a MAGA hat.
Of course, I strongly suspect the endeavour to 'discredit' the laws of which all people must abide - yourselves included - is an attempt to discourage people initiating legal action against propaganda shills such as yourselves.
I mean, that is what Media Matters loves to abuse against Trump using, what was the quote "pro bono lawyers"? Pro bono lawyers work for both sides, and a no-win no-fee lawyer can smell a goldmine a mile off.
Keep up the abuse.
You're essentially building your own legal case.
(PS: I won't be the one prosecuting. I *never* prosecute. I always find the criminals have a habit of ending up in jail or resigning or what have you.)
>you never shut up!
Shills always want censorship. Media Matters abuses those who support Trump or those actively exposing the frauds who receive pay but do not work for the people but their own selfish interests.
Haven't you gotten it through your thick skull yet? I *never* shut up. I believe in freedom of speech, and unlike you, I respect people airing their opinions.
The quality of your opinions however, is much debateable.
Do any of you have anything that isn't?:
A) Image spam (of a poorly chosen meme)?
B) Some sort of butthurt over 'namefagging'?
C) Casting aspersions over legal observations whilst failing to disclose your own legal credentials as armchair lawyer in what can only be described as raw hypocrisy?
D) Some sort of ad hominem.
E) Complaining about length of posts (I bet some of you read Harry Potter though, so I guess you must read selectively).
Do you, say, have any actually constructive retorts as to why those positions are wrong?
So far, not one of you has challenged the mass surveillance or sheer vulnerabilities of technology that would expose your identity, not one of you has declared what rock solid system build that prevents said snooping you're working from, and not one of you has a specific critique on the legal construct that would hold up in any sort of court.
I mean, the clear cut evidence you are shills is you appear not to have even read 8ch.net policy on shills, which is to, err… ignore shills. And to think through what you write. And to not write in anger. All of which points you're failing hard on.
Meanwhile, you're flooding this thread with garbage nonsense posts that offer no real constructive value to the readers.
Every shill ever!
Paid clown shill, you are.
I outsourced you.
We will see who's on base
And who isn't.
Soros Globalist Stalin lover
12 July 2012 The Gentleperson's Guide To Forum Spies
25 February 2014. Related: GCHQ Full-Spectrum Cyber Effects:
24 February 2014. Related: GCHQ Online Deception:
GCHQ DISRUPTION Operational Playbook:
29 January 2014. Related: GCHQ Squeaky Dolphin Psychological Operations:
4 March 2012. Precursor to this sabotage, OSS Sabotage of Organizations:
Is this what constitutes as shill hunting these days? Hurl a vague accusation at someone of being 'something something shill' and mention a few magic words like 'George Soros' and poof, the person is instantly guilty?
What is this, CNN?
>I outsourced you.
Seeing as I don't get paid to post, come here of my free time, and I have absolutely no idea what the fuck you're talking about, I'm going to, no.
My money is either you're a shill or you're suffering from some element of schizophrenia, because I've seen people who genuinely believe that everyone they dislike uses sock accounts or some such.
Sock accounts are real, but it doesn't mean everyone uses one.
Only time will tell from further talks if you're a shill or just very paranoid.
Those are good resources, but their techniques have advanced and changed since those days. I wouldn't rely on the older datasets on my own forum for gauging shill behaviours because they employ a diverse variety of tactics.
GCHQ's MO tends to be more legal or technical - legal threats or disrupting the service of a system. USAF are more likely to be the guys involved - dig into Eglin AFB and it's impact on Reddit.
MoD has a psyological warfare unit, and USAF have a cyber warfare unit (the latter is misleading because it involves psyops rather than, say, hacking).
The only way to tell the parties apart is what agendas they support. They will always fall back to national/departmental interests. For example, you won't ever here an MoD shill badmouth the UK military, or if they do, it's half-hearted and with little effort behind it.
It's safe to assume all organisations (government and commercial) employ socks and shills. Even fucking Comcast has bot accounts to spam post the FCC using fraud. I've seen Microsoft shills actively bashing open source, that kind of jazz.
Key point: shills always have a specific, discernable agenda, or a very obvious goal. What the goal is tells you who their employers are, which is your first step for identifying counter-arguments.
>shills always have a specific discernible agenda
discrediting research about shills
>discrediting research about shills
Including ways to stop shills using legal means.
Who is G4S?
Security forces for money / cash ?
Prison reform # Oakwood?
Looks like a small army inside of America private owned out of London.
They are trying to hire now a lot. They have timed job request online.
They want ex military personnel or will train. Looks like the just changed to American US name as cover from old emails to new ones.
Q OR ANY Patriot PLEASE LOOK INTO that company.
G4S is on the stock exchange over seas
The Pulse nightclub shooter worked for them for years. Per web search.
Good luck with legal standing, and over coming federal rules on pleading requirements.
Idiot no it all NAMEFAG
Real attorneys would
Laugh you out of town.
But, then you're not even in America.
posting to keep your
idiot NAMEFAG thread
To waste people's time.
SHILL CLOWN DIVERSION
IT'S ALL BULLSHIT HERE
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME
Sounds like you're trying your damned hardest to discourage people from using legal means to cap shills.
Doesn't appear to be working out so well for Mark 'is pedophilia okay?' Zuckerberg.
Not sure paying disabled people to fall out of wheelchairs and then accusing people of pushing them over is entirely legal, either.
But keep trying to front legally speaking. You already know everything you do is legally dubious from the getgo, so rather than saying 'see ya in court' you'd much rather try to discredit any legal highlights instead.
How to tell if someone is a shill:
1) Opposition to legal action against shills.
2) Blame some irrelevant red herring, such as namefagging
Consistent namefagging or multiple anonymous posters, pick a lane.
Not a shill or clown 💩🤖👾 or whatever names you have come up with. I asked that question on another board can't find it. I posted on this one because I thought it was supposed to be full of people that spot fake stuff. I didn't scroll to see it's how you spot a fake person or whatever name.
I hate posting on this site. It's hard to open up this site for me.
I used to only looked at the Q board or what was linked on that bored off and on until it stopped. You tube is easier to look at for what was being posted.
I really just wanted people to see who or what company is up to. It's just strange that they are a private security company that is working on from the twitter post prisoner's rehabilitation.
I am not a whatever take 1 min and look at that comoany it's weird and see if the pulse nightclub shooter worked for them. If it's not true then please write I am asking fake question✌
You've done a good job Anon. Defending the real Anons. We admire that. From one schill to another, we would call you drone. May I refer to you as DroneAnon? We see how you idolize the true Anons. What was it you said? If you have only read a true research thread, the anons are all over the schill? You do a good job. You stick to the memes you know. You keep it simple. Accuse. Double accuse. And occasionally, because we sometimes may be dealing with a more masculine personality, throw in some profanity. AS FOR CAPS, we don't use those. But hey on the subject of using different, what was it you said? "It's entertaining though, how you change ids to answer your ownself and pose long long lists of "mindless commentary," and then post MORE posts on how your posts are "notable". Well, you got me there. In fact, you may not have noticed, I have kind of been assigned to you. But, as far as telling you just when, well I won't reveal that. But, well since we are going to know eachother for a long time, I just wanted to give you a chance to try to figure out when it is me. See you tomorrow DroneAnon!
Oh, and Drone? I can only say that it has been for awhile. Sometimes when you think you have found me? I have been waiting. See you Drone.
Oh hey Drone, just wanted to say good job again. Like when you say at the end of many of your posts? IT'S ALL BULLSHIT HERE
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME (in caps no less) May I just say that that is one of your most effective 2 sentences? I know tou forgot the period or semicolon but that's not what us important. What is important us that you guide Anons safely away from the thread, In effect, like a security guard guiding customers safely away from a spill in aisle 3. It shows an "I got this!" kind of spirit. I I know this is an unusual request from a schill, but I think that phrase shows a boldness i your spirit. I would recommend you use it often, in many of the threads here. It will also, if you use it often, help people to kind of remember you. And maybe the next time you use it, people will give a shout out to you saying, "Hey aren't you that guy who warns us when we should stay away from those thread with schills in them?" Just a request with respect from one adversary to another.
Hey my bosses are telling me that they were really impressed when you said, WARNING: THIS IS A
THREAD How can we compete with that? You won't even let us talk to the Research Anons before you gave already warned them to stay away from yet another thread. Kudos to you sir from my bosses. With you protecting Research Anons from our shills, we indeed have a hard fight.
The Pulse shooter formerly worked for G4S (I ignored your post as being off-topic to this thread). G4S was originally started by a former FBI agent. The Pulse's shooter's dad was an Afghanistan (I think Prime Minister? A minister of some sort) who received a financial reward from the US government.
There were MK-Ultra signs all over that shooting. For example, the MySpace message board where the shooter posted, he had a friend with an account called 'religion.of.peace' (which is the description associated with 'Islam' whether it's true or not) and a username of 'Gay', who then posted a weird photo to the shooter.
The photo traced to someone claiming to sell a dog in Florida. The original photograph came from a man in France.
As a member of the Obsidian Order, we believe that the account was telling him the target and the details. 'Gay' being the target, the dog photo indicating the location, and the claimed association being 'religion.of.peace' (aka Islam).
The bizarre references were entirely MK-Ultra and I'm glad someone archived a copy before it got scrubbed. My own follow-up report on the matter where I pieced together the subject also got scrubbed when the forum it was hosted on went down. My own forum is about to be shutdown as well.
>"Hey aren't you that guy who warns us when we should stay away from those thread with schills in them?"
Got to love the humourous sarcasm. He does kind of overdo the screaming a lot, doesn't he? 'STOP READING THIS THREAD ON SCHILLS, BECAUSE SCHILLS MIGHT BE HERE, DISTRAACTTTIOOON'.
Contrast between schills and normal people is always obvious.
Normal people put in the effort, the work, to debunk, dismantle a piece, often retaining politeness, going into depth.
Schills 'ain't got time for that', they're micromanaging 15 sock accounts, a bad career choice, a dickbag manager and don't have time to formulate a rebuttal, so lets just hurl abuse and scream like a millennial on a hot day trapped inside an auditorium full of scientists and conservatives discussing female biology.
It's always fun when you provoke them far enough that they detail their personal credentials. So far on my tally of 'blurted out their career details by accident' include a career American politician, an NSA agent, a 'retired' Boeing engineer, a British Intel agent, a JIDF soldier, and a US government paid third party contractor who builds sock accounts and skewers climate data.
With the way that other guy is writing he's on the verge of a mental breakdown because provocation methodology isn't working.
No no no no no no no no
He be Da PASTA man.
He is a fucking shill
FRAUD FAKE ANON
NAMEFAG SHILL FAG
Hello Drone. You be da DroneAnon. Protecting the hive. Am only going to check in on a couple of threads today ti check on your progress. I have gotten a promotion at work and only need prepare a weekly synopsis on targets now. But hey Paisan, have you been thinking which posters I have created and maintain different personalities for? C'mon Drone. Let's make some past[a]. p.s. Would love to see some of your own memes.
You've literally been to, as far as I can see, a wide number of threads accusing a lot of thread starters of being shills.
You're just a division causing shill, man, trying to throw out false accusations at everything. Your posts are just incoherent yelling coupled with image spam.
You're beat man, all the other accusers have run off because they realised I could prove my authenticity and would have wrecked their reputation trying to baselessly accuse me as such.
You also dubiously don't appear to be accusing the other guy who looks like he's intentionally acting suspicious.
Funny that: only accuse the guy who proposed how to lawsuit shills.
Defamation is a bitch, yo.
You must have read my mind.
I been busy myself frustrating the shit posters.
Asking simple questions is usually enough since they have no answers
I feel this thread is very relevant to add to the clown college.
No thanks. Took peek. What a hellhole thread. Need to close that and weld the lid. May God help them.
I don't think that's what the game means. You play the bingo marker if you spot the shill action or tactic.
Like if you see a shill trying to do a psyop, then you mark that square. If you spot a shill making a strawman argument, then you mark that spot. The terms aren't used by shills no. You would never see JIDF calling themselves JIDF. The terms in the squares are used by anons to describe the tactics or the shill. Im not sure about the bot square, though it seems it means you spot a bot (like e-bot) that is meant to disrupt.
Did any if the shooters in the news seek "low cost" or "sliding scale" therapy at a school of psychiatry called Argosy College?
There is a "campus" near (LAX) Airport Courthouse in a kind of business complex. Next to it is National University that has veterans programs. The third builiding next to those two was, until this year, occupied by BOOS HAMILTON. The building now has a different corporate name on the outside. Will have to get that. But it can be GoggleMapd.
All three buildings face eachother and share a courtyard.
I found that interesting. Only just looked into Argosy's list of classes.
Always thought that was kiind of amusing to to see Argosy University(remember the movie Argo?) right next to the Boos Hamilton building.
Was military veteran recruited by BoosHiamilton?
If you were a veteran attending a university that catered to veterans, is it possible you might see an ad on a school bulletin board offering free or low cost psychological counseling? Or maybe the paid opportunity to take part in a clinical study? If you've been to a community college or university, then you know the bulletin boards I speak of.
The old Boos Hamilton building is now shown on GoggleMap as UCLA Paramedic Training college but was for at least 5 years until this year BoosHamilton.
Here's the part everyone forgets about shootings:
1) You need a familiarity with a gun. How to aim, how to handle recoil, how to reload. The Orlando shooter, for example, clearly had practice, former G4S. Who taught him?
2) Mentally ill people don't think straight. Anyone with PTSD wouldn't really be able to handle a gun. To coordinate, plan, and execute an attack requires a clear mind with enough cognitive ability to factor in contingencies, building layout (how'd they get blueprints or access in the first place when it comes to secured or unusual locations EG YouTube building? Does YouTube's building not have biometric security or even simple locks?).
3) Being able to focus in a scene of chaos is not something a lot of introverts can do. Most introverts shun any sort of noise. Saying 'autistic' and 'handgun' is an oxymoron because autistics shun loud noises. Anyone with a mental sensibility is not going to like the loud sound or smell of gunpowder. That takes practice. How do they suddenly overcome what is literally titled a disability? Hypnosis?
4) Former veterans or prior security work makes more sense because it removes the need for training. Fort Hood comes to mind - do they need counselling if the Microwave Auditory Effect ('voice of god' tech) works?
5) Weapons need money. How do broke-ass disabled people with no job always have backpacks worth of ammo? That shit costs thousands. Who has ammo to spare? The army. Who has weapons to spare (EG 10+ AKA Las Vegas shooting)? The army.
6) The mentally ill person is never seen down any gun ranges practicing. They also never have their own home, and no-one ever comments about seeing them practice. See point 1. How did the Las Vegas shooter know how to aim a weapon over long distance from a raised building? Urban warfare is only taught in the army, civilians don't know jackshit on it.
7) If a mentally ill person is flagged up to an agency, and continuous surveillance is an easy thing to achieve, why do agencies never somehow notice the shit ton of weapons and ammo being prepared? Or indeed, any of the always public, NSA metadata searchable manifestos?
8) Why do the majority of the shooters have indirect ties to the military? Orlando: G4S. Ronald Reagan attempt: US navy. Fort hood: US navy. John Lennon: USAF. Aurora: DARPA. JFK: USAF/CIA. MLKJ: FBI.
Not sure exactly when in the last year that BoosAllenHamilton removed their name from their building but I can tell you they had been at that complex for at least 5 years based on personal observation by occasionally being in that area. Had not been there for awhile and now they don't have their name on the building.
Encourage anyone to GoggleMap satellite view the complex. The 3 buildings are obviously designed as a group and must have a common landlord.
Is it just a councidence? Maybe.
Weren't we admonished by Q to try to trace the psychological caregivers of shooters?
Argosy has 13 campuses in the US offering schools of psychology. I thought I read about some complaints bu students that the school (as a whole?) had never gained accreditation?
Is it possible for a psych professor to assign students the task of "practicing" on volunteers like cosmetololy or dentistry students do when they offer low cost hair cuts or dentistry to people?
How do they get the word out to people that they offering those services at a discount?
Could a "professor" of psychiatry assign the task to their students to each obtain a group of volunteers seeking counseling and provide a synopsis on each candidate for suitability for treatment?
Could a professor tell their students to screen for certain qualifying factors and tell the students it is just the parameters of the study? Could it provide the opportunity to screem large amounts of people for the traits you are looking for under the guise of qualifying them for low cost treatment or eligibility to take part in clinical trials for psychotropic meds?
Not sure if this is worthy of suspicion but what if the lack of accreditation is due to them not wanting to have to answer too many questions from any accreditation boards. Would not know how hard they tried to engage with, and thereby subject themselves to the scrutuny if, any board of psychiatry unless they had to show a good faith effort which would be documented.
What if they did not make sufficient effort to subject themselves to scrutiny? Is that significant?
Was Argosy University recently purchased by the Dream Center? Is the Dream Center associated with any church group?
That is all for now. Thoughts/progress on the idenifying the psychiatric care providers for shooters?
Hey didn't mean to reference you and just blow past you with my diatribe. Did notice you take a view, which I understand, regarding clarity required under chaotic circumstances.
>Being able to focus in a scene of chaos<
I was kind of following along the lines of what I thought Q had implied- a connection between being under psychiatric care and a kind of Manchurian candidate manipulation to commit some act.
What if the conditioning provided the subject with a state of being immune or indifferent or maybe even oblivious to the chaos?
In his secret garden, "Just trimmimg the hedges. There'll be a nice cold glass of lemonade for me when I'm done."
I do get the training aspect that you bring out. But the drilling and training provided under much sleep deprivation(not saying the military is committing intentional sleep deprivation for any nafarious purpose-let me state that outright)can have an effect of learning at an instinctual level- something one can do in one's sleep. If there is anything to be construed as intentional in a sleep deprived training regime, it is that you are learning to function at a basic level so you can survive under chaos.
So you can't be convinced that a person could be conditioned to go, without a moment's notice, to his "quiet place" where he thinks he is just trimming the hedges and thinking of ice-cold lemonade?
p.s. I can spell "nefarious".
And have recently learned to make paragraphs. ;) But all things in moderation.
There is Only Q
Q confirms R is fake
R admits point is to make the 'R' movement bigger than Qanon
Month long shill operation.
Penecostal, and as you said, no accreditation, lawsuit by students over lack of credits, GAO admonished for fraud, deception, etc.
Argos being a play on the word Argus meaning 'many eyed creature', from Greek mythology.
Often used by intel firms to signal they work in intel.
In your case, you refer to the ship Argo:
But generally intel-stuff nearly always refers to the many eyed creature.
>So you can't be convinced that a person could be conditioned to go, without a moment's notice, to his "quiet place" where he thinks he is just trimming the hedges and thinking of ice-cold lemonade?
Fight club reference, if I ever saw one.
But to the contrary, I already subscribe to the conditioning theory (you've miscaught my writings - I'm arguing why the individual is not 'mentally ill' as advocated - and why they must be calm when doing whatever it is they do). Only two things induce that: training, or hypnosis. And for intents and purposes, I consider them the same thing.
Say, don't they use sleep deprivation in Guantanamo Bay?
Isn't it always strange how the inmates go in innocent (1 out of 5 according to the CIA's report, are innocent) and then go on to become hardened terrorists with deep level infiltration of terrorist networks?
I wonder what messages they contain in those songs that they play continuously?
Didn't some crazy Canadian hack under MK-Ultra force an unconscious, comatose girl to listen to his taped ravings on repetitive loop?
Seems remarkably similar.
The real golden key to own is the activation and deactivation phrases are, though. I'd like to think one could simply intercept a broadcasted message carrying a coded message within it for conditioned individuals, rewire the message to say something else, and then rebroadcast it. Something like REEEEEEE you will actively dismantle corrupt DUN DUN DUN but I always found the EAS broadcasts to be pretty harsh in tone. A better question to ask is do orders override or work in parallel?
Q's remarks about R confirm my earlier statements, and fundamental serves as the final nail in the coffin about the claims that I'm a shill:
>Forgot to ask, what's the plan regarding the R stuff?
>It's admittedly a hard read, what with Q not posting, but it strikes me it's an attempt at a 'counter-current' within the Q boards by first trying to pull parallel and then, eventually, forking off.
>My thoughts is if R is as legitimate as is claimed, R should surely have a separate board? My concern is it's an attempt to distract or divide baker resources between R threads and Q breads, and now that its on it's 6th thread.
>If left too long and it spreads further, the idea of shuffling R to it's own board might be highly opposed, at which point Q resources must compete with R resources in a domain where attention, visibility and time is a precious resource.
It also serves as proof that I'm highly familiar with identifying shill tactics, like I earlier said. Basically called R a resource sapping, board dividing red herring and sure enough, confirmed by Q.
>Month long shill operation.
personally, I think its coordinated
its too sophisticated and seamless to be otherwise
made a side by side
I thought so. Some anon pointed out on R bread #8 what the ID had been posting and the LARP was all over the place. Glad that that has been put to bed.
BV posted it. The ID hash was samefagging night and day all day
Actually was referencing the movie Argo which coincidentally was about a c_a operation.
An interesting coincidence?
May be wrong but hasn't Q implied in the past that ES was recruited, coincidentally by BoosAllenHamilton, our neighbors at the complex to work as a C_A plant to go work at NoSuchAgency to "do his worst"?
My phrase at end-not a guote.
Possible to know who owns the property in question?
>Often used by intel firms to signal they work in intel.
Wow! Thanks for that.
Would love to get some real ResearchAnons, you included to get names of pych doctors who are/were on the staff at the various Argosy University campuses across the country. IF they were using their real names.
Q mentioned something about how all the shootrs had therapists.
Also said they might move right after an occurance.
Might they move to another job location?
Is a visiting professor listed differently on a university faculty roster?
Doesn't Argosy have many campusus across the country?
You give me an idea.
>The real golden key to own is the activation and deactivation phrases are, though. I'd like to think one could simply intercept a broadcasted message carrying a coded message within it for conditioned individuals, rewire the message to say something else, and then rebroadcast it. Something like REEEEEEE you will actively dismantle corrupt DUN DUN DUN but I always found the EAS broadcasts to be pretty harsh in tone. A better question to ask is do orders override or work in parallel?<
Remember Q mentioning the 4 o'clock drop? Where the news stations are told, almost verbatim, how to open their news programs?
Seen those Ytube videos where they show end endless parade of clips from news programs of affiliate stations across the country who open with a phrase, for example, "Don't worry, be happy"?
Could we be talking of a "trigger" phrase?
A phrase broadcast across the entire country by network news affiliates? Maybe only for a specific target individual?
Or maybe they might say, "Hey it's a heat wave across the country, so if you're out in the garden trimmimg the hedges be sure to stay hydrated. Maybe have a cold glass of lemonade."
Who does Q say is responible for sending out those 4am drops?
So you are butt hurt her too your women,
The rest of us don't have any problems getting our fair share.
Are you one if the infamous InCels who don't know why they can't get laid?
I have a pretty good guess
>A better question to ask is do orders override or work in parallel?<
Sorry, can you explain?
he took your women
>Could we be talking of a "trigger" phrase?
>A phrase broadcast across the entire country by network news affiliates? Maybe only for a specific target individual?
What is the unique property of an EAS broadcast?
Who must legally be obligated to broadcast it?
Over what communication mediums does it broadcast?
What does it do to, say, a current broadcast?
Can it be made nationwide or regional?
If regional, how specific?
What if I told you the FOIA request the CIA sat on involved a request involving whether or not the CIA had advised on specific movies and TV shows? What if I told you they misfiled it? And they admitted to misfiling it, but have not provided the casenotes or the reasoning why?
Does the CIA advise on movies?
What was the inspiration for the Jason Bourne movies?
Are they accurate?
How does Hollywood know that?
How do you transmit a coded message to a sleeper cell in another country with oppressive censorship laws?
Who does the movies?
Who does the abuse? More than one perpetrator.
Can abuse result in MPD?
Does Jason Bourne show signs of MPD?
What is popular, entertainment wise, in China right now?
Who makes those?
What is a numbers station?
What do they broadcast over?
Why is the numbers station not jammed?
Did the BBC ever broadcast anything over the radio in regards to Iran?
Do you believe their story?
Who controls the media?
Why does Q say that the media is the greatest threat to the American public right now?
Does Darren Brown validate Sirhan Sirhan's account?
How does he validate it?
Why does he do it publicly on TV for all to see?
Does the CIA advise on Guantanamo Bay torture?
Who else? The American Psychiatic Association?
Did they have a hand in MK-Ultra?
Do they approve of Guantanamo Bay?
If the CIA knows 1 out of 5 detainees at Guantanamo Bay are innocent, why haven't they been released?
Why must the inmates sign forms saying they will never disclose what went on in there?
Who are the terrorists, really?
Who arms them? CIA?
Why did several assassins have a book written by a former OSS member?
What phrase does Catcher in the Rye contain?
Hint: involves a hat.
What's another word for someone who changes their thinking?
Putting their _____ hat on?
Shooting interchangeable with thinking?
Why books? Movies less prominent?
Who promoted Catcher in the Rye? New York Times?
Who did the CIA originally work with and still work with in terms of the Media?
Who did Glenn Grenwald expose?
Once you realise what is going on, you will freak. Q is showing you the tip of the iceberg, the stuff you can handle.
It's a very war for your mind, if not your soul.
>Sorry, can you explain?
Certainly. When issuing orders to conditioned individuals, do they override (a pre-existing order), or do they run parallel (they try to execute both orders simultaneously wherein possible)?
What would happen, if say, you intercepted public activation/deactivation phrases - involving hats - being broadcast publicly to sleeper cells of conditioned individuals, and issued a new command?
And that command involved leaking information publicly. And rewiring the individual such that control could never be restored.
And no agency could make a move, because the entire sleeper cell comprises of trained assassins, hitmen, terrorists and more, that they personally trained, and they knew if they made any attempt they would see reprisals, potentially across the globe?
Do you think the government ever thinks about security when installing 'backdoors' into people's minds? Do you think, once they perfected the technique, they wouldn't just standardise it?
Synchronised messages are important if you want to ensure someone somewhere hears it. Have you noticed how the media's commands appear to be falling on deaf ears? They scream for specific things to happen, but then it doesn't happen.
Why is that?
Remember the calls for violence? That appears to have been entirely ignored. What did they want to happen to Trump originally? It happened to Ronald Reagan and JFK. They even caught a few people who look like they were drafted in from Britain (why so far away?) armed with weapons attending rallies.
But no-one is heeding their call.
How do you break a system? With a virus that spreads.
All you need is one conditioned individual to spread the word to the rest and suddenly the CIA no longer have a sleeper army at their disposal.
The shows the CIA 'misfiled' were:
For Source Code, strongly advise reading the original movie script.
I learn a lot from your posts. speaking of synchronized messages. The media gets their 4 am talking points, (from Fusion GPS? not sure if we have consensus on that) and put their calls for violence or action out. Mostly they strongly IMPLY that Trump JUST DID SOMETHING SO EGREGIOUS that people should be angry enough to commit violence.
Some people, but not many (very few surprisingly) pick up the trigger and protest or put on a pussy hat or scream at the sky, but we aren't seeing the rioting in the streets Soros wants or the violent mobs the media is trying to trigger.
What's the virus? Im going to go checkout the misfiled shows and the script if I can find it.
damn wrong image, the thumbnails lookedsimilar. Pic attached is what Im talking about. These are more than just shill bots. They could be spreading a passcode that they get at 4am. They could be spreading a trigger. But they all get the same memo. And the accounts are weird…a lot of symbolism, weird posts, unusual tweets. Whats your take?
I think these might be related.But first a Q quote:
>Law enforcement should interview the therapists.
Each shooter has one coincidentally.
Relocation within 30 days of each shooting?
FBI doesn’t know this?
Spooks are hard to find?
Dream to reality.
(Not a rhetorical-but my question) Is it possible the 4 o'clock drops can contain 1) Talking points - to drive the narrative, and also those creepily similar or same seg-way quotes - which are done between news stories? The seg-way phrases would be the triggers, or they could be codes to either individuals. Have u seen those Ytube videos showing a compilation of taped news channels, all on the same day, beginning a news story with the same phrase? It's creepy.
Also, they sometimes slightly change a word or two of the scrrpted intos. Could be they just wanted to say it differently, or is it an intentional variation for that particular news affiliate, in that city?
I think Q has linked Deep Dream somehow with Twittr. But I think any Twttr comms are "volitional" as opposed to a Manchurian candidate type of trigger phrase broadcast on the news.
Do you think Dream to Reality, Bourne, The 4'oclock drop, Twitter, the new C_A dir. tasked with finding this "program" are related to shooters and therapists?
We do need to find the thrapists though.
Q said that they are changing their names and moving. So how do you spot them?
Only way I can think of is by looking at changes in faculty rosters at universities with school of psychiatry such as Argosy(but it could be some other).
Do universiities publish Faculty rosters? I don't even know if this can be done but maybe with a couple of autists looking for changes in staff…?
Okay we know Q says they change their names so, (remember our discussion of lack of accreditation and why you might not want to submit to scrutiny?). Fake names =fake degrees/diplomas.
So how to find a "therapist" that has changed their name? Would it be possible to spot a staff departure from a campus where a shooting has occurred? Was the shooter's therapist male or female?
Is there anything that could help spot a change in faculty at such a university? How often do they publish faculty rosters? By semesters?
Okay, yiu might be asking why couldnt they just set up a new private practice with their new fake name and psychiatric credentials? Think about how long they would take to grow a client base.
Think how long it would take to acquire a long list of possible targets knocking at your door "volunteering" to take part in a study or because you offer "low cost" therapy sessions if you were at a university program.
How do you get alot of people knocking on your door? Give them free sh•t.
I don't think Q said to wait for a drop on this did he? Or did he encourage us to follow the therapists who move within 30 days if an occurrance. I am getting the feeling that they are "moved" with the support of someone. Moved or moved around?
To operate on a large scale, screening targets, you have to be operating /hiding im plain sight.
Moved? or Transferred to a new location(campus?)
Get started on all those rosters,
We'll catch up with you later
Proof of the pudding:
"Please be advised that the FOIA case log subject was incorrectly transcribed due to a human error."
Why didn't they deny? Did they get caught red handed?
No response on the 'why' or the casenotes that they mandatorily have to supply. What else was transcribed incorrectly? Why did they try to hide my FOIA from the FOIA log listing if 'nothing was found'?
>Some people, but not many (very few surprisingly) pick up the trigger
Figure out what the trigger words are.
Hijack them, use them for your own processes.
The left and right both have a lot in common, but only when you think about it in a way not filtered by the media.
Both sides don't like AIPAC/israel/zionists.
Both sides want humans to be treated well.
No-one wants to be 'wrong' or on the 'losing side'.
Both sides think the (other) side is corrupt, and wants to expose corruption.
Both sides are opposed to corruption.
The oldest trick in the book for someone wanting to retain power is divide and conquer. If you're too busy fighting along partisan lines, you're too busy to be exposing corruption.
How do they divide? Trigger words. You've noticed them. Others have. Two ways to defeat them - use them for your own goal, or keep reusing them until they become stale and meaningless (desensitisation).
Media Matters are fighting "outrage fatigue" because their abuse of trigger words is losing potency.
The key to an effective trigger is to always be right, so look before you leap. Have you seen the news lately? They have so-called 'comedy' shows trying to regurgitate propaganda. Why comedians? Comedians can't be sued for making false statements or defamation. Isn't it funny how it's always a comedian (or a 'celebrity') talking about climate change, and never a scientist. Why is that?
If you could artificially produce clouds using silver iodine, could you also hypothetically induce a drought or heatwave if you either stopped, or moved the clouds somewhere else?
What would you need in order to spray materials into the sky? Have you seen Operation LAC? How long did it last for? Why is no-one raving on about it in the media?
Does this have any overlap with Agent Orange? Who did they test it on? Willing participants? Who else does Monsanto produce besides 'pesticides'? Do you think they use willing participants in their 'tests'?
The advantage of a dumb populace means if you're smart, you can guide them to the right course of action.
>What's the virus?
It's a psychological virus called the Recursive Mind Virus. I designed it to exploit and combat what were reports of conditioned assassin sleeper cells (why is the old book Manchurian Candidate full of actual scientific references, but labelled fiction? Did no-one check the references, did someone try to drop a hint, or did someone try to mark it fiction to bury the truth?).
Harman is going batshit insane. Didn't he make the 'Rickhurian Mortydate'? What is that referencing to? The references are all in plain sight, for anyone who sees. Did you hear what the squirrels said in 'Morty's Mindblowers'? Just avoid sounding batshit insane - part of the purpose is to make it 'so obvious' that you sound like a crazy fucker if you talk about it.
Q is right, symbolism will be their downfall.
How does the virus work? All conditioned individuals are so abused and so broken they follow any command they are given without question. Sometimes handlers are promoted victims.
So as you're guessing, if you gave a command to one victim or handler to pass onto other victims or handlers as a command, the entire network will, over a period of time, be penetrated with a single, recursive command that forces them to continually rebroadcast that command.
The trick is to carry a secondary command in that piggyback.
Which is to leak information, publicly, to a suitable outlet.
Vault 7 demonstrates the CIA could pose as any other country when hacking. Do you think the CIA would ever try to overthrow a government? Don't answer that, it's rhetorical.
Regardless, interesting times we live in. I wish I could convey more, but there's a fine line between useful and sounding batshit insane. The FOIA should be sufficient proof, not many people get the CIA to admit error.
Want to forge your own 'viruses'? Learn the trigger words.
'Hit me baby one more time' - do you think that refers to physical abuse?
>all on the same day, beginning a news story with the same phrase?
Repetition reinforces. People genuinely believe if they hear it often enough, they believe it to be true.
Ever been bullied? It's like that: 'you're stupid, you're stupid, you're stupid, you're stupid', then your brain repeats and believes the same thing.
Coincidentially, what are they all calling Trump?
Would you call a man who has millions, his own massive jet, hotel chain, survived 4 bankruptcys to remain rich and went on to win an election without support from either Dems or Repubs (originally) or the media, as being 'stupid'?
It was humourous when the media berate Trump for speaking 'like a 4th grader'. Social studies show that people who use jargon or intellectual terms are, on average, seen either as more aloft or actually dumber (because it means they're unable to gauge their audience). Simple phrases means it's accessible to everyone, even an immigrant with pidgin English. The media are what I'd call 'pretend smart', hocking their own credentials but failing at basic tasks (such as fact checking, source attribution, not falling for 4chan hoaxes, not believeing everything the CIA says immediately, etc).
>they sometimes slightly change a word or two of the scrrpted intos
It's to try to give the false impression of difference, when there is none.
You'll find the outlets with the most similar talking points are owned by the same mega-corporate media parent company.
All reference from AP. Who checks AP's handiwork? Err, no-one does, apparently.
>We do need to find the thrapists though.
>Q said that they are changing their names and moving. So how do you spot them?
All therapists, must be on some level, accredited.
LinkedIn, CVs, resumes.
Due to constantly moving, they might find it to be easier to be self-employed, EG their own companies.
Some states have very good, what's called 'companies house' (it's a website that documents the owner and financial details of a person).
Most require an account. You can get yourself a fake '10 minute mail' and sign up using that.
Some will have practically no documentation (EG Delaware).
Some will have pretty good documentation (EG Kansas).
Washington DC corporate search:
You should find others for whichever state you're looking up. Not all states have them. There's no Federal level register.
Also, any name changes have to be, in theory, legally filed somewhere.
If they are changing their name but without a legal filing, what they are committing is fraud and deception (of the 'identity fraud/theft' variarty).
Hypnosis is likely to be part of their 'skillset'.
We need more autists in this.
If u r on another thread and they are talking about this, please refer them to this thread. Thanks.
The first step to hypnosis is to ply suggestions on a target in terminology (wording/phrasing is a heavy subset). The media are pretty sloppy at it, once you know what to look for.
The following is highly explosive, liberal hitpeice on Trump:
"First, don’t use logic or rationality to try to understand or counter Trump’s statements and behaviors."
"Holding onto the opposites of realism and optimism is the best antidote"
What's the opposite of realism?
What's the opposite of optimism?
Why would they want the Donald Trump attackers to stop using logic or reason?
What are they truly concerned about happening here?
Remember, it basically says: don't use logic to understand Trump's tweets.
Why would they say that?
If Trump's tweets are illogical, irrational, wrong or false, why must logic be 'switched off'?
What's the psychological ploy here?
You already know the answer why.
Why so obvious?
Why in such plain sight?
Desperation, like Q says?
What happens to liberals if you show them this section?
Do they agree with you, or do they try to defend it?
What's the definition of a cult?
How do you break a cult?
Has a cult been recently dismantled?
There's substantially more overlap than you realise.
You imply the therapists are clown related.
You imply therapsts change their names and chage their location.
Are they moved/relocated by Clowns? Name change or change of identy?
Moved or transferred?
More likely to work in a private practice with limited client/target opportunities, or work in a university with a school of psychiatry program with many campuses across the country?
Do universities offer low-cost counseling to volunteer subjects and maybe paid participation in clinical trials?
Can you drop any hints Q?
They abhor logic.
Got to confess,am a little disappointed. Have been over to what used to be a Research thread that is (figuratively) with a bunch of would-be stars and celebrity spotters at a Schwabb's Drugstore after Marilynn Monroe was discovered there.
I give up on Research. Bunch of people talking, nobody listening, nobody RESEARCHING.
Yogi Berra, well-known for his ironic statements was asked why he had not been seen anymore at a famous restaurant that was known for celebrity sightings replied, "Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded."
It is crazy like Babylon over there.
So nice to come over here where it's nice and quiet,
What shall we discuss today?
As you can see above, tried sending Q a message but don't know how to link to a post from a thead that has been closed to post a response on a new thread.
>What shall we discuss today?
There's many topics that could be covered, all of them equally as fascinating, but not necessarily all of them immediately pertinent to your current situation. Continuing with media, because to break their stranglehold is at the forefront of winning this battle.
Consider who it is the media are trying to convince, and why?
Nothing they say would stand up in a court of law. They're not trying to convince law enforcement. They are not trying to convince a panel of peer reviewists. They are not even trying to convince any company of any proposal.
Who are they trying to convince?
Would you say that, the media would not waste their time trying to convince people, if they were truly powerless?
Why is it, every dictatorship, hinges on the very definition of propaganda?
Why is propaganda even needed in a dictatorship? If Hitler has SS, and he can make people disappear, why even bother writing newspapers for the public to consume?
Who are dictators admitting have the real power? 'Bread and circuses'. 'Dog and pony show'.
Why is it the media aren't going: Donald Trump, here are the reasons why you are wrong blah blah but going:
'Here's why Donald Trump is stupid' (who are they addressing/trying to convince?)
What purpose does convincing you serve? Find the reason, find the power. The trigger words are important here.
What's the opposite of realism?
What's the opposite of optimism?
Surrealim, dream(deep?) , irrationalty
Nihilism, et al
Also, to dogtail back to this thread.
Who are the shills trying to convince?
If you're not even in 'positions of power', why even bother?
Do shills/media share the same purpose? The same audience? Even… the same influencing company?
What happens when shills come up against a well-armed opponent who knows how to argue facts, information, concretely, soundly, without provocation?
Do they continue the engagement, or just 'disappear'?
Why disappear? Why not just continue?
What are they worried about happening to their reputations?
Who are they trying to convince in a 'debate'? Me?
Or the audience?
And do they convince via facts or attempts to discredit?
Same approach to Trump/Q etc? Even to you? Others?
Did the CIA use discreditation tactics? Propaganda move? Black/grey/white propaganda? Why even waste time going toe-to-toe with people on a board if theories are baseless?
Once you see the media and the shills speak with the same voice, it will become easier and easier to discern whose voice it actually is.
(The shills in this thread were legally ignorant, does that sound familiar? Who else is legally ignorant? Since when does 'intent' factor into Espionage? Why would anyone bother given intent is hard to prove. Why would an FBI agent make such a massive mistake? Who else is breaking the law? 'I'm an illegal immigrant Bill de Blasio'?)
Who is Bill trying to convince? What he said is a confession, and makes him legally liable. No police. Why say it if he knows it's illegal?
There's many layers to this. I drop hints in various places.
Nihilism:a : a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless
Nihilism is a condition in which all ultimate values lose their value. —Ronald H. Nash
b : a doctrine that denies any objective ground of truth and especially of moral truths
2 a : a doctrine or belief that conditions in the social organization are so bad as to make destruction desirable for its own sake independent of any constructive program or possibility
b capitalized : the program of a 19th century Russian party advocating revolutionary reform and using terrorism and assassination
WOA WOWOWOOWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH HERE IT COMES………….I FEEL IT COMING AGAIN………..I'M HAVING A VISION:
THE RAIN WILL COME
THE TWEETS WILL BE TWEETED
THE DOG SHITS ON THE FLOOR
THE EAGLE HAS LANDED ON THE ROCK
THE BROWN EYE OPENS AGAIN
THE TOILET IS FLUSHED
THINK INTERNET OUTAGE
THINK IT WILL RAIN SOMETIME IN THE NEXT YEAR
THE BIRDS NEST HAS BEEN INFILTRATED
>Surrealim, dream(deep?) , irrationalty
"Dream to reality."
"Jason Bourne (Deep Dream)."
Remember what I wrote earlier? CIA advising movies, more real than fantasy?
"Dewey is scheduled to attend the convention for a public debate on privacy rights with Aaron Kalloor, CEO of social media giant Deep Dream."
"Dewey intends to use Deep Dream for real-time mass surveillance alongside the latest incarnation of the CIA's targeted assassination 'Beta' program, known as "Iron Hand"."
"layed by Riz Ahmed in the film, Kalloor appears to be the Bourne universe equivalent to Zuckerberg, Facebook's famous founder."
ALPHAS, ('Beta' program).
It's obvious when you know what to look for.
Jason Bourne, dream to reality:
>Nihilism, et al
Pessimism. What emotional states evoke pessimism?
Would you say a person seeks therapy if they're extremely d____?
Why does the Politico article refer to regular beatings in a camp?
What conditioning techniques were used in Manchurian Candidate?
Where did they get captured? (North Korea? Then moved to China?)
You will need to read the book (the original).
Local library is likely to have a copy.
It will contain many references to actual scientific studies.
The media are like a Greek choir, a narrator in a movie. People quickly rejected the idea becuse it usually was employed to overcome weak screenwriting or poorly constructed plot- much like our present main feature.
And did you notice I must have left the door open?
Back on topic, ithe mainstream media news is like a narrator telling us what is happening while we are watching a Kabuki.
It is a stolen narrative to tell us that what we are actually watching is someghing else.
As propaganda it will be tryng to tell us we are defeated when we are not.
This shill shows you how disgusting they get, when desperate.
Designed to traumatise, provoke a reaction, dehumanise.
Over the target.
People like this will go first.
noticed. Bombs away.
You're gonna make me read?
>THE BIRDS NEST HAS BEEN INFILTRATED<
Yes U hear he Condors are once again on the endangered species list. Poor condors.
A good choice of word, but the opposite of realism (implied) is fantasy. Opposite of optism is pessimism. Why would the rallying cry of Trump's opponents be (to their own) 'go to your safe space and get depressed'?
Prelude to conditioning? 'Don't question our orders'?
Contrast to here: WWG1WGA. A unifying rallying cry of hope.
Someone said 'we already knew they don't use reasoning', but if that was the case, why ask people to switch it off?
Concerned people will see the truth and defect?
Have some already done so?
Looks like they're trying to stem losses by saying 'don't read this, don't look here'.
All good points.
Their aim is to not only distract, but to convince you to accept their views as verboten. They know no-one on the Qanon board will believe their own garbage about Qanon, so who are they trying to convince?
Why did communist China ban books?
It's a battle to control the narrative, your views, your opinions.
If you're opposed to Trump you'll attack Trump. You'll donate to their causes. You will cover up and deflect their crimes.
But if you think, you'll approach independently, dispassionately, you'll argue well constructed arguments for or against a point, and you'll start to expose.
The key here is, how many of the people of America, right now, are in agreement with each other?
Doesn't matter how many the dems 'car pool' into out-of-state voting manipulation. Because all they're doing is duplicating votes. Do they really have 50%?
What if the majority of Americans were tired of the incessant garbage produced by the media, and the only ones arguing against were just the paid shills?
The only problem was, they all just didn't realise, and think they're isolated, or the only ones? Or just couldn't prove their suspicions?
Are you ready for the influx of 'migrants' from facebook?
When facebook collapses, where will they all go?
>What purpose does convincing you serve? Find the reason, find the power. The trigger words are important here.
Well, potentially, to stsnd down regading an ongoing situation. For example, to try to convince a populace that a certain action, (oh, let's pick for example), a coup, was necessary, was widely popular, when it was not.
Oh, not related but I have to get this out there. What country was not quite finished with its Revolutionary War while another country was building a naval base at Sevastapol on the Crimean Peninsula in 1783?
"Bobby Kennedy assassin brainwashed by 'girl in polka dot dress' "
"Derren Brown - The Experiments: The Assassin (Full)"
Recommend viewing video through a Tor browser.
May I confess I am old-school, no computer, phonefag. I refuse apps, never on Twtr of Fbk? Never been to Reddit either.
>For example, to try to convince a populace that a certain action, (oh, let's pick for example), a coup, was necessary, was widely popular, when it was not.
Or even to aid and abet in an ongoing crime.
The CIA have moved on from the messy period of murders. They work a hierarchy: simple discouragement, threats, discredits, frame-ups, accusations, 'guilt by association', legal actions (EG civil tort, criminal case), attempting to drive insane, commit to a mental institution.
They don't touch murder except as a last resort - when nothing else works. Even then, coups, assassinations are cliche, they go for 'accidental' murders first (EG Michael Hastings car crash - consequently, does Vault7 contain any references to CIA hacking car controls?), then onto murders that can be discredited (EG placing a petrol generator in the house so it looks like owner 'accidentally' poisoned themselves with CO2), before finally trying to outright kill - first through hired thug, then through an assassin if the security is too high.
>What country was not quite finished with its Revolutionary War while another country was building a naval base at Sevastapol on the Crimean Peninsula in 1783?
America(n revolutionary war).
Puts things into context, historically.
>May I confess I am old-school, no computer, phonefag. I refuse apps, never on Twtr of Fbk? Never been to Reddit either.
If Android, Orfox is the Tor equal. Although you should be able to view the video fine if in America without Tor, the recommendation is there in-case anyone encounters any, ahem, 'issues'.
Heard about the car controls over on some ytube video.
Heard about the Boeing Uninterrptable Auto Pilot? If not, there is a very intelligent, "crusty" but likeable guy named Field McConnell on a Website called I think AbelDanger.
I found him on Ytub.
He is a former Marine fighter pilot from the Vietnam War who flew commercial planes also.
Same thing with planes.
Think he alleged possible controls Hijack if Malaysian air.
Take control of the plane, take it to altitude, pilots/passengers pass out., exphyxiate? Fly the plane wherever you want. You have a plane to use for your next FF.
You mention so much in your comments, (not a complaint), sometimes I have to re-read and address thing one at a time, or I have a new thought.
They might, I suspect, try to get a large number of people on the street for one reason as cover for a planned(not good) occurrance, but then change the narrative during and after the event.
I think the media said that Ukrainian police fired on protesters when there is video if police trying to take shelter from snipers like everyone else that was there.
I picture the eagle has landed in the condor's nest and has your eggs in its beak!
Okay, I am back on the subject of Argosy University.
List of campus locations in 13 states;
Inland Empire, California
San Francisco, California
Los Angeles California
San Diego, California
Salt Lake City, Utah
Twin Cities, Minnesota
San Diego-Military Coast Guard
Any of these cities or states match up with false flags , shooters or someone driving into a crowd of people?
I see a couple of councidences.
Does anyone else?
Sorry in last post I failed to include the city of the Argosy University campus location.
It is in Arlington, North Virginia
DID THIS AS AN EXAMPLE
I think we should start reporting shills UIDs' here, so the BVs/BO can follow their hashes easily
BV/BO, I WON'T BE POSTING THAT IN GENERAL ANYMOAR, BUT I WILL HERE
so, as an example:
PROBABLE SHILLS FROM BREAD #2948, CHEKK'EM:
*probably missed some, could be wrong on some*
2190c1 : muh larp shill
c5c43a : fake physics shill
5b3672 : muh larp shill
1fdbf5 : FEshill
275931 : C_A /MOS nigger (its not MOSsad anons, I’m just like you)
310d86 : C_A/MOS nigger (its not MOSsad anons, I’m just like you)
b89fa3 : C_A/MOS nigger (its not MOSsad anons, I’m just like you)
37d508 : C_A/MOS nigger (its not MOSsad anons, I’m just like you)
a1380c : C_A/MOS nigger (its not MOSsad anons, I’m just like you)
e2bcff : muh larp
(labels can vary depending on the anons outlook, but I think this can be a useful exercise, and can help BVs/BO)
PROBABLE SHILLS FROM BREAD #2949
*probably missed some, could be wrong on some*
4a5c2c : muh larp
34da60 : muh larp
0115ab : muh larp
d5eafd : muh larp
7991f8 : muh larp
f7684b : muh larp
c90e19 : either a shill or a REALLY newfag
Tiresias : 2598ef
muh dick : b9f515
All good spots.
Last three are bots (the one quoting the post with no content is clearly broken/experimental phase).
Tips for suppressing shillery:
1) Find common ground in posts (shills rely on scripts and automated posting, and will classically repeat themselves/reuse the same tactics)
2) Apply systems that impede that style of shilling (depends how much 8chan/Qboard want freedom of speech over quality. The more moderation, the greater the quality but the lower the freedom of speech. Expect shills to bitch.)
Easy win tips:
1) Minimum post length (I'd place it to be with a minimum length of roughly 80 characters).
2) Name filtration (bot always uses the same name, why? It also looks like the name is designed to be unique - do you think it's so it can find it's own post to confirm successful posting? Incap bot's name = incap bot's posting)
3) Optional: Requirement to supply a link in research threads (???) when posting. Then block all the trash URL links.
4) Optional: Build a hunter-killer robot whose job is to track every thread post, and when given examples and IDs, can pull back every post that has that ID/format (this would allow bulk moderation on a single target, allowing you to wipe out a shill's handiwork across multiple threads at the same time)
4 is already possible. You've got tools to filter out Q's posts. Reapply that thinking to shill IDs, clownfag names, or just post content in general. (EG how many posts are just garbage accusation posts?) Massive protip for highly responsive content: use SQLite and pre-cache the posts in a database where lookup is easy (might not be real-time, but stops you from being forced to webscrape the entire board, refresh only periodically).
PROBABLE SHILLS FROM BREAD #2950
*probably missed some, could be wrong on some*
bc8a99: muh larp
295e12 : muh larp
ed20a8 : leftypol shill
b0ecdd : kek, called me mossad, not saying a shill, just letting you know
pretty weak, since I’ve been calling out the JIDF/MOS shills (can see that in prior lists)
seems to do the same shit daily (used to in night shift, switched to day shift) and was lumping me in with the 3rd shill in this list
Can’t tell if this fag is a /pol/ack or just a really good at blending in shill
got distracted, was doing shit
but not many in #2951 besides the ebot and muh dick
Hey, this indirectly related to our possible clowns/Argosy university discussion.
Can you tell this non-tech phonefag how to respond to a message to me on an old thread and post a response on a new research thread. They fill up so fast! Can't respond. Have looked in FAQ for how to respond but it's not addressed there at least.
UAP is how I think 9/11 was achieved. Didn't the X-files basically have a 'pilot episode' (no pun intended, but serious) where the plane auto-pilots into the twin towers or some such?
Is that why the passports were brand new? They had never actually been on the plane/used?
>Planes are pressurised up until at least 30-50,000ft. If they did suffocate… it would have been because a system was built in to let all the air out. And it flew low to avoid radar, so decompressurisation wasn't the method used. I dread to think.
I did a calculation on it's geo-coordinates based on fuel and sightings. It's landing spot was indeed Diego Garcia. I eliminated all other possible landing spots based on which governments were actively looking for it (for example, it couldn't land in Sri Lanka as it was both a political hotspot AND it's government had declared it was actively looking). Then we had the text message indicating Diego Garcia. Then nothing.
Note how neither the US or UK publicly declared that they were searching for it? Does the US not have a pacific fleet? Is that not the location of the UK's military base?
>They might, I suspect, try to get a large number of people on the street for one reason as cover for a planned(not good) occurrance, but then change the narrative during and after the event.
Having the public involved gives it a false sense of legitimacy. Why do you think politicians always call for the people of <insert country here> to rise up? Aren't they already rising up? Or do the politicians know those ones are the paid stooges and they need the public to join in?
If there's no public involvement, they have no muddying of the waters/cover/legitimacy. Why is it the countries with the worst human rights abuses (EG Afghan Murders) are always the ones to condemn human rights abuses? Who made Libya's clusterbombs? (Hint: the country in question never signed a treaty banning the manufacture/sales of cluster bombs and *still* hasn't).
(Had to rotate IP, machine almost crashed whilst I was doing research.)
PROBABLE SHILLS FROM BREAD #2951
*probably missed some, could be wrong on some*
310499 : muh notables
c32dd3 : muh notables
a4c37c : muh arrests
234cec : fukken idiot
81d01c : muh larp
f6e8a7 : muh arrests
Tiresias : b74fa1
(as you can see, most is copypasta, but I think this could be effective for anons and BVs/BO if they track moar egregious shills)
>I see a couple of councidences.
My viewpoint is likely to be different to yours, so feel free to add:
NoName/Bill Clinton tarmac/border human trafficking/backpage.com
Aurora, Colorado shooting
And also USCG:
CNN news HQ, David Hogg
And also USCG:
Texas church shooting etc.
And also USCG:
Obama birth certificate controversy.
No known (to my knowledge, haven't searched) shootings though.
False missile alert.
Annnd also the USCG:
CIA front companies (aka Iran-Contra affair)
Shooting (shooter apparently walked):
A couple of counties left of Broward, Florida
Annnd also USCG:
>San Francisco, California
YouTube office shooting
(Also a hotspot for Chinese, Russian, israeli, French, British espionage and American counter-intelligence activities)
Annnd also USCG:
>Los Angeles California
And also USCG:
Donald Trump rally
Riots, uprisings, protests etc (actually impacted by an EAS broadcast prior to a riot)
Annnd also USCG:
(Surely 'Northern Virigina'?)
Hotspot of numerous intel/military agencies:
Annd also USCG:
Seattle Times (largest circulaion in the state of Washington)
And also USCG:
Islamic 'centres' (mosques):
Transatlantic aircraft bomb plot:
10 miles west of O'Hara international airport (place involved in Transalantic aircraft bomb plot)
Waffle house shooting:
>Inland Empire, California
Complex, but lets roll. Inland Empire is a colloquialism that covers numerous areas, including that of the infamous San Bernido shooting:
"The Inland Empire (IE) is a metropolitan area and region in Southern California. The term may be used to refer to the cities of western Riverside County and southwestern San Bernardino County. "
>San Diego, California
Various mass shootings:
And the US Coast Guard:
>Salt Lake City, Utah
??? no incidences I can identify
>Twin Cities, Minnesota
??? no incidences I can identify
(No USCG either)
??? no incidences that I can see
Seems vaguely familiar, not sure where from
??? no incidences I can identify (also a very unusual place for this psychiatric thing to be located, seems like a very resource intensive move).
Although USCG also cover the above noted areas:
"The district covers more than 14 million square miles of land and sea, with units on Oahu, Maui, Kauai, the Big Island, and in American Samoa, Saipan, Guam, Singapore and Japan. "
I think the first two are *possibly* legitimate (due to shill spam, notables does appear to be light), however they write like shills with the attention grabbing red text, and they aren't contributing to the solution of the problem (EG by providing notables).
So I would challenge those by directing them to contribute. If hostile/aversive to the suggestion, then shill.
The rest range between clearly a shill (ebot, LARP) to possibly concernfagging. In those cases, I would assume shill by default (because concernfagging, like above, is not productive).
Rather than: HERPDERP NO ARRESTS
Should be: SUPPLY LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH DIRT/DIGS FOR ARREST
On a board you can always break down people into three categories:
You can treat 2 and 3 the same (because for your intents they are the same), however you can flush out unhelpful newfags v shills by educating as to proper course of action. Shills won't change (or will only feign a change) and will become hostile or ignore. Newfags will admit error and improve.
Strongly recommend you create an FAQ or rebuttals thread (locked to avoid derailment) with all of the key shill complaints addressed with a fully fledged rebuttal, so for example:
THERE'S NO ARRESTS BLAH BLAH
<Reasoned rebuttal goes here>
Q IS A LARP
<Reasoned rebuttal why not goes here>
Be open to criticisms on the FAQ (even from trashy shills) because any flaws that can be identified can be fixed and improved. Use shills abuse to sharpen your own sword.
The best analogy is to imagine you are the Enterprise and the shills are the Borg. Their goal is to find a frequency (argument) that gets through your shields (arguments), by rotating the frequency (updating the arguments) and boosting the shields (supplying moe evidence) you can resist their mindless attacks.
I agree with all that
thats why I add the caveat of "could be wrong on some"
but if the BV/BO can see the hash is nothing but those posts, its settled
just thought of this idea and instead of doing it in general, I'd post here (to not slide)
Oh, and once you've built the FAQ/rebuttals: refer, refer, refer.
It's no good to have it sitting on a page. Just keep re-referring to it. Even quote parts of it (if it's clear shills won't visit). By re-referring to it, you draw the newbies in to read it and thus educate themselves on the counter-arguments and why shill arguments are flawed.
Once a position is clearly and cleanly debunked, shills stand out even more, because they'll be the only ones ignoring the landslide of evidence/well reasoned arguments.
Same way I had my own forum prepared (like an FAQ/repository/proof factory) to refute shill accusations I was a 'shill', you too should have a repository of facts that are direct and to the point.
The goal shouldn't be to force people to keep rewriting new counter-arguments to old, refuted points, but to have the 'best of the best' refutements that you can just immediately cite.
I think I documented the most common shill 'arguments' I encountered in this thread. Be sure to expand your refutations to include that of garbage peddled by media outlets. Nothing destroy their credibility faster than a well reasoned deconstruction of their false equivalence arguments.
There's a good reason why shills will not directly engage me on any board once they're familiar with how I argue.
PROBABLE SHILLS FROM BREAD #2953
*probably missed some, could be wrong on some*
5acdc9 : this fuck post images of “his kids” (who are we to know if thats true), might be a pedi/bait for 3 letters, keep an eye on this fuck
ad5770 : fake physics shill (just slides saying untrue nonsense about physics)
50252b : muh comped BV/Baker
c0d1fd : C_A/MOS nigger (its not MOSsad anons, I’m just like you)
094fc6 : C_A/MOS nigger (its not MOSsad anons, I’m just like you)
4d0595 : muh arrests
Tiresias : 9b966d
(gotta go for a bit, will do this again probably in the night shift)
but shilling has slowed significantly
there are shills in general, since BV said no moar boobs, that are calling real anons shills, pedos, clowns, and other shit because they disagree with censorship
its the same "everything is pron" shills I've seen for months
they're seizing this opportunity to bait anons (kek including me) to argue and slide
its not about banning/censoring boobs, its about banning/censoring anything
the same shills, I wish the BVs (NOT THE ONE THAT STARTED THIS BULLSHIT) and the BO would check some of these clear shills' hashes
I'd bet you'd find all kinds of other shill tactics have been used by the shill from that hash
its ridiculous in general right now
they wouldn't delete the Rshill threads when they were at the peak of their distraction, subversion, and attempts to discredit, but will censor harmless pics
the real question is: whats next?
its not about boobs, its about censorship
As Q said, EVERY C_A and MOS tactic–. Every tactic. It pays to learn to recognize tactics and shills to strengthen yourself against them.
"Every C_A/MOS tactic of infiltration and internal disruption is being deployed on this board (central hub)."
Making 'safe space' on the internet is what got us into a lot of this mess. They'll take the boobs, then they'll take the words 'fuck and nigger'. "Just to make it more comfortable for new people!" But it wont end there, it will be like every other board on the net…it all started the SAME WAY. making safe speech, having someone behind the scenes decide what YOU should see…for you. Taking control of your eyes and ears…for you.
Maybe they'll rethink it.
But in the meantime, we'll stay strong. Peace through strength.
>>2350748 "drop ALL censorship–like the board manifest said when Q brought us here"
Just recall the Barron, Harry, Rothschilds et al were all babies once… THAT is how we calibrate
until tards choose to stop slaughtering ; pedovorism continues. Logically.
the change begins with WHAT you choose to consume
Shill Report 7/31
Gore died down
Porn died down
Anti-tits died down
Contempt shills- bullying, division, pretending to be anons but they only master the cut-downs. Cut downs are always delivered with contempt, not with bantz.
Jews jews jews jews jews jews jews jews
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thats a bunch of bullshit
why are you in this thread
PROBABLE SHILLS FROM BREAD #2989
*probably missed some, could be wrong on some*
BV/BO, if you can, check their hashes
and others of course
Good point on the R threads. I had hinted those threads were comped.
When Q arrived I don't think you were this swamped with shills. I've been on forum rife with mil-int shills and I've never seen as many as those on Q boards. Even the shills who aren't on 8chan are yapping about Q (on forums that don't even discuss the topic).
They're doing both active subversion here AND pre-emptive 'damage control' here.
But I concede your point. It's always difficult to determine when to apply censorship (I won't couch it as 'moderation' because there's no such thing as 'censorship in moderation').
But will you be able to bare out the *full brunt* of the intel agencies+media+paid corporate/political shills? If you give them too much breathing room they will literally 'nuke' a forum by filling it up with trash (by having bots, constantly rotating IPs etc posting continuously).
Google offers a service that can solve the captcha you provide here. Not even Google's own captcha uses the letter-captcha and they don't advance their captcha until their own bots defeat it (why do you think it always involves 'roads'? Google's latest car AI project in a nutshell. Before then it was books with the words. How do you think they traniterated so many books?).
You've got all the signs of an incoming shill shitstorm. If I'm here (I go where-ever the currents take me), then there's a shill shitstorm that's about to break.
I always somehow end up on the frontlines just before it does.
I'm working on a tool but my resources are stretched at present, so if they do hit, censorship might be the only option you've got. Believe me, you've never gone head to head against a machine that can post hundreds of threads a minute.
Shills don't need to convince anyone of anything, merely destroy what you already have.
If you can't censor, then find a way to filter the posts so you only get quality. Q would have been buried years ago if it wasn't for the likes of qanon.pub where the posts are isolated out.
That 's not Mr. Bill? Oh nooooooo!>>2370780
>>2378362 "Believe me, you've never gone head to head against a machine that can post hundreds of threads a minute." - yes - i cut my teeth on Louise Cypher and the QuBit Quints. they mirror (enochian) …
i'd be keen to know what you think about https://blog.maidsafe.net/tag/data-chains/ ?
ignorant humans really are in Trouble; type 1 civilization technology is being used to analyze and predict and direct. And gauging by the majority' belief in "blood sacrifice" (andrenochrome addiction actually) and demonization of cannabis ; the beast grid already has claws in most people.
Hey I see you've ben busy with important business. I took some time away.
We have so many cities. Will respond with only one tonite and discuss a narrowing of search.
Twin Cities, Minnesota- I found a St. Coud, Minnesota mall attack and a suspicious officer shooting of an Australian Woman for no reason that looked kind of like a mindless trigger event.
Wanted to get back away from my own theory and focus on the Q posts around the Annapolis shooter. (around June 23?)
Mentions: relocation, new name, spooks hard to find, dream to reslity
Diff. Q post(same day) mentions: therapist=key, weak minds, use of symbolism to push strength and belonging to something powerful, controlled, duty
He tells us to find the link/common denominator.
Says an error was made.
Name can be found on filing.
Office?Other patients, relocation(again), conspiracy risk, end(for now)
Mentions Haspel needs to terminate a clas program (associated with therapists? deep dream?)
So I am not wrong that ghe therapist thing involves clowms.
I have been thinking, that a Psychiatrist doesn't just change their name and relocate just because one of their patients turns
mass murderer, it would only confirm the person was unstable and sought treatment. Unless- - the target survived the attack and could under court appointed pychiatric care manifest evidence of conditioning.(my theory)
Why would a doctor just move?
Q tells us to look at the FILING that could be under a false name.
Also rells us, I think, that the doctor, made a mistake(maybe accidentally used his real or most recent curriculum vitae, list of accomplishments?) I think this is it.
Relocate?(mentioned twice) A different university campus? (my old theory again).
Weak minds. Like you said, not crazy.
A duty angle.
A CLAS program like Deep Dream?
You are a proagrammer obviously. First what is your opinion on the filing? With State Board?
How to search State Board filings for QVs that match identically? They made a mistake.
If they were posted online or "open source" how eould someome begin a search like that?
Well, one point to start is North Virginia where Arlington is, and where my Argosy University has a campus.
>>2372762 Trivium WHAT bullshit?
and IF you are an adrenochrome junky : FUCK OFF :)
seriously - get the FUCK OFF EARTH before your going gets rough
Partial re-post of something I posted in General:
A therapist must register with State Board of Psychiatry? What if he accidentally used his old CURRICULUM VITAE listing BACKGROUND, schools attended and accomplishments on his new "FILING" with his new FAKE name?
Maybe we are not even supposed to try to look for this? Get ZERO responses in General. Maybe I should take a clue from the autists who seem to have forgotten this drop subject?
Mayb I don't hav an instinct about what subjects Q and the autists feel we should be researching.
If Q just wants us to "find the connection/common denominator", how do we find the common denominator?-
Just therapy and maybe psychotropics thrown in?
Why does he ask uf its hard ti find SPOOKs in the same dropp?
Should we take a hint from the complete lack of interest in General Research?
Maybe it's time I "Take a break here, Boss?" (movie quote)
Also, I have an extremely low tolerance of threats or harassment. Better watch your step buddy.
>Diff. Q post(same day) mentions: therapist=key, weak minds, use of symbolism to push strength and belonging to something powerful, controlled, duty
Although Q is hinting to something specific (which I will cover), I strongly advise considering broadening your search to consider other mentally ill shooters.
The best lead I ever saw into the bizarro shit was the Norway shooter, because he had been involved in some American political program (or had been trained by some politician, I don't recall the details). James Holmes was second best, because not only did he formerly work for DARPA, but I believe he actually told journalists (who then had their notebooks confiscated) that he had been conditioned or hypnotised.
The one Q mentions as an example is, in my opinion, a non-sequitur to the trend I've seen (the guy in question has a long running legitimate beef that eventually boiled over, and the media quickly buried it when they saw he was basically left-leaning).
Regardless, on TTDDTOT some time ago I posted information other people had dug up (but I couldn't testify to the reliability of it):
Q likely knows something I don't, but I am admittedly not familiar with what the legal requirements (beyond a need to register) are. State Filings depends on what you're after.
It could be a case of searching LinkedIn (via searx.me) for things like 'Psychiatrist' and 'Twin Cities'. I wasn't able to get any traction on this as I'm about to roll out something to help counter the shills.
Also, did you notice how after I said a 'shill shitstorm' would break, it did? This time with the media singing from the same hymn sheet simultaneously.
How can the media profess to be more knowledgeable on a subject than the people who take part in it? And…
Why haven't they followed (except for FWIW) standard media practice of interviewing people from the cause?
Does this reek of the same attack pattern they used on PizzaGate back in 2016?
Who *really* controls the news?
Who are they trying to influence?
Role reversal. ; )
>>2370564 hmm meet meaty - know by yOUR DEEDs
>>2399378 Hey Captain, you know what and why humans are misbehaving badly: how many slaughter houses exist on earth ToDay?
sometimes i wonder about you Bro…
>>2399138 the fact you fail the tirverted Turing Test has ME wondering about you actually . recall WE don't like your excuse for slaughtering sentient beings. if YOU have a Problem about that then YOU NEED to consider your options.
Don't tell me " Better watch your step buddy."
Did you know that autists often fail the Turing test, as 1) they tend to have more knowledge on a given subject than any equally relative human should know and 2) their curtailed emotional reactions and social sets.
Turing Tests do not actually evaluate pass or failure for humans. They have a strong bias on behaviorism and autists don't behave as 'normal' humans do anyway. For a human to 'fail' the test, they are wrongly pointed out as AI..and this happens quite often, since humans are not what the Turing test is designed for.
Did you have trouble with the Captcha coming in? Did you think that F was an E because of the swirlies over it, and it took you more than one try? You failed a turing test.
You just have to face it–some autists are experts on shills out of the same kind of personally-ascribed focus that makes some of them become experts about trains. We recognize each other.
We also recognize you.
>recall WE don't like your excuse for slaughtering sentient beings.
Sorry, did the master of genocide try to critique me on murder?
(Religious or paid-for shill, you know how neck deep your master is.)
Maybe try choosing better parents, but then again, terrible parentage is all you specialise in.
Do unto others, as you might say.
>the fact you fail the tirverted Turing Test has ME wondering about you actually
Sure. The fact I could interpret a threat to another person's wellbeing and have empathy to that cause of how they would feel (threatened or bullied) makes me the unfeeling robot. Nice inversion.
No dice, though.
>Did you know that autists often fail the Turing test, as 1) they tend to have more knowledge on a given subject than any equally relative human should know and 2) their curtailed emotional reactions and social sets.
Well, that puts me firmly back into that bracket. Thought I had escaped, probably just denial on my part.
But yes, a lot of normies (and even shills) refuse to believe people can possess diverse sets of knowledge to a near specialist degree. I like to think it's because they don't try in an age of information technology.
The Captain jab seems to be used across the board, aimed at me. Even on TTDDTOT (last few posts):
Regardless, wanted to sitrep (even if Qboards did delete the HK bot code I posted for anon to use):
Media Matters shills are heavily using the Cultist angle to discredit.
Media outlets have been told to diversify their talking points in order to try to disprove the 'stale repetition' rhetoric.
(By diversify, they mean write their own op-eds. It will still contain the following keywords: cult, Q, conspiracy, Qanon, violent/violence, threats/danger, hostile/aggressive/harm, pedophile/pedophilia, PizzaGate. 'Bonus' points if the op-eds mentions guns in a negative light or Trump in a negative light.)
The end goal is to earmark Q as a crazed cult of wackos (akin to Jim Jones). A couple of ways to refute:
1) Counter common/misleading misconceptions with rebuttals to stale arguments (for example: the comparison to PizzaGate is old hat, and the media never properly debunked that because their only source of refutement was the owner of Comet Ping-Pong, which is a bias and invalid source of information).
2) Busting the comparison between Q and a cult. This is not a cult. Anyone can leave Q boards at any time (no-one stopped me boycotting the Q boards when I chose to do so). There are no threats if you opt to leave. You are not showered with 'love bombs' if you opt to stay. You are not asked to do anything that is illegal or untoward (researching crimes is not illegal, and it's baffling that JOURNALISM OUTLETS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO DO RESEARCH WOULD CONDEMN RESEARCH).
3) Busting the fact that just because you call something a bunch of ad hominems/malicious names, does not make it intrinsically untrue (what it does make the article, however, is a bias political hitpiece).
4) Highlight the lack of appropriate citations backing up their claims. What is their proof this is a conspiracy? What is their proof this is a cult? What is their proof this is somehow violent? Antifa are violent but we don't hear them condemning antifa, why is that? Aren't they a violent conspiracy?
5) Refute the fact it's a mindless horde/follow the leader type nonsense. Everyone here does their own thing. We all do our own thing together. If Q is a cult, then places like the New York Times are just missing the poisoned kool aid.
Shillcon level is designated as level 1 till further notice
>>2420797 the masters of genocide choose to slaughter for their taste "pleasure" - that's the Trivium WHAT pedovores do.
What part of , "every meaty mouthful enables kakistocracy" don't you comprehend? it's not normal, necessary or natural for man to kill for pleasure and when they do the forfeit freedom.
the blood sacrifice NEEDS to stop.
the Tirverted Turing Test expoes hu-man-bots - anti-live pedovores.
Try it: Do YOU believe slaughter for taste is acceptable behavior?
Attempts being made through 4chan to associate Q with anti-Semitism
Was it a teeny tiny coincidence that the plane shot down deep in cia, I mean to say Ukrainian airspace was also a Malaysian airlines plane?
I seem to recall there was some radio chatter among the military Donetsk? who came upon the scene, that the bidies apoeared to already be in a state of decay, as if kept on ice until the "flight".
So, let's just analyze this, just as an exercise using the Q Socratic method.
Who gains from this attempted outcome, if it were successful?
The recent Q drops pointed to an agressive campaign to discredit by who?
Lets start first with MOSS.
In this case, an attempt to paint Qfollowers, and more importantly, Q (currently the purveyors of US foreign policy)and by implication, Trump, as anti-Semitic would have what beneficial effect on the foreign policy stakes of their country?
Ultimately, the immediate onjective would be to remove (the foreign policy of)Trump..
What else? Maybe a plan B would be to put Trump on the defensive, on his back feet. Make him the bad guy. And if he's not such a bad guy, then he should show how much he likes their country. Maybe a gesture to show the world.
Would the MOSS gain something if Trump was not reelected? What?
Return to normal?
Now, what about our deepatate prior to POTUS? What direction was our foregn policy headed in regards to our MOSS friends? Was it going good for them? Were they closer or further from their stated(vs rumored) goals in the ME if Madam OvenMitt had been elected?
>>2427715 "associate Q with anti-Semitism"
Israel ; Highest per-capita plant-based diet…
Q Israel: WHAT do they know?
Was lurking and shitposting on Research and came across this sample of a shill.:
08/05/18 (Sun) 02:10:24 1751f6 (2) No.2461929>>2461976 >>2462055
Have anons figured out the Mockingbird "explaining/debunking Q" article template yet?
An attempt to summarize them all:
Having never investigated Q drops, it seems odd.
There's no DC swamp draining progress being made that is not announced in plain view.
Trump doesn't have any non-public intel or data.
Trump also has no power or brains.
The military has no authority to stop grave national security threats to Constitutional stability.
Hillary and Dems are innocent of all spy felonies.
Pedos & sex traffickers are imaginary criminals.
There is no such thing as the deep state either.
The deep state isn't trying to stop/remove Trump because he has total control over them.
Resistance media would never lie to cover it up.
You need only trust Mockingbird media and must avoid dangerous bakers and crumbs, or else.
We have six ways til Sunday to get back at you."
Kept smelling Asian food in the kitchen here. I know I have read the posts of an acknowledged poster here that on can mimick a kind of personality,and,
therefore a foreign stereotype.
But this poster seems to be "on the outside looking in". My gut feeling comes from a kind of literary perspective.
An attemp to summariaze them all:Sounds too Chatlie Chan!)
Followed by a non-sequiter phrase, "Having never investigated Q drops it seems odd." Then they begin a seies of critcizing Trump for NOT draining the swamp in secret but rather out in public(in a transparent way?).
Sorry, going back to the beginning, it confusedly refers to a Mockingbird article( fwhich is our Chan nickname for them implying clown involvement, 4oclock drops etc).
Of note: At the beginning of the "lecture", the speaker takes pains to mention(as someone who has been forbidden access to "outside" communications) to tell us(why?) that he is speaking "as someone who has "never investigated Q drops". Is that a Freudian slip from YEARS of inserting little virtue-signalling hints into EVERY single conversation he has ever had, that he is a good communist, over the dinner table, at the store, at work etc. ? Just a theory. But lean to China.
Just one question, were we expecting any Chinese "on the wires" here ?
The attempt is very confused. As if they were given a list of things to say in different posts but included some that were contradictory.
And remember,GI there is no deepstate. But if you do not cease your effotrts, (the deepstate has six ways from Sunday…etc etc.
I wil conque you with my supewio intewect!
>>2462356 oorah Orca ; Marine Sergeants you kNOW your Orders
Not just shills on the board, we're dealing with them on the outside now too. Rough seas out there, hold fast!
Currently in the general: Real debate was disrupted by division shills making use of both sides of Alex Jones issue. However, heaviest bombardment in response to the MOAB discovery today of legal language buried in NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act)
HERE WE GO: HR 5181 was stuffed into the 2016 NDAA on 12/02/16 Basically $160M was set aside to pay alt media journalists among others to spread disinformation to counter what they claim is fake news. (Aka truth) THIS IS WHY SO MANY FLIPPED ON Q!
Quite over the target, and the shilling is intense. But most are duds.
pretty much yawn
falling back on Larp, tag team kayfabe, muhjoos
on top of the very juicy SPY OP post
Would like to add, after reading your word samples, the same verbiage is showing up on #qanon, like exact. It's actually helpful in identifying the shills over here.
Question: have you noticed the shills of late are lame compared to a month ago, or so? They remind me of greenhorn youngsters, new, little training and narrow script. Hit and run.
If you bash them once, they have no idea how to respond, and they take off.
That seems new. Unskilled shills. Like the other ones contract ran out, or something.
One reason they don't try is they follow with the crowd of hive and are on autoload. It requires no motivation, or even self-awareness of who you are, if that makes any sense. Now it's duplicate thinking and I wanna be like: fill in Hollywood fav. Also, the fluoride and systematic chemical manipulation of food, beauty products, etc, together with social indoctrination, have mucked up and dulled the pineal, just as planned. Multi-skilled? Not so much anymore.
Once the soft killing of us stops, it's going to take decades to heal, and this generation has been hit hard from the 80s on.
70s weren't too bad, except they introduced the drugs, vaccines, aids, and had the fluoride going. And that's not all of it.
They put us through hell. We took hard hits.
Must be true.
There were no autists in the 70s & 80s
Just retarrds.and paranoid schizos
The puzzling thing is I had fluorides, vaccines, and the same GMO foods and chemtrails but it hasn't had any affect on me.
The only real difference are in education and the culture. I suspect that is were the disabilities come from
I thought it seemed to have a more Italian style.
That means either Pope or Mafia or both.
If you disagree you must be a shill
Our 2nd major physical psyop was a stampeder
(VOP was the first)
6'4" "Kate" with the linebacker shoulders was going to be our stampede runner. Clowns had already been planting 'we need a leader' posts in bold red text for two days before the rally, to seed the idea.
(And femanons dont actually do the TOGTFO so 'Kate' wasn't read in properly')
Clown 'Kate' – it appears we were supposed to flock to her as our new dear leader when she saved the president, but not only was the physical op intercepted but the psyop here as well.
>I thought it seemed to have a more Italian style.
>That means either Pope or Mafia or both.
>If you disagree you must be a shill
Want you to know that when you said it sounded more Italian, you got my attention.
I thought well maybe let's go back and look at common syntax and pronoun errors you often find with foreign speaker using English.
I did go back and have a look but I fall back on my original position which, by the way, is still no confirmation.
Would like to just reiterate here that the "voice" and tone I was getting from this was a kind of combination of Charlie Chan, from the old black and white movies from the 30's and 40's and, though not mentioned by myself in the first analysis, a kind of Chinese version of Tokyo Rose.
Okay that was my grammar and tone reason. Now, lets talk about mission capabilities of the Chinese Cyberwarfare program.
The Chinese CW program may be second only to the US and is the USA's most capsble foe. While we were eyes on Russia, we should have the whole time kept our eyes on Chima.
As far as the country of Italy is concerned, their mission capabilities can be safely approximated as relative to their national budget. Their capabilities in cyber are limited to mostly their NATO military/strategic role. Remember whi gives them their NATO budget.
Vatican/ Cabal capabilities? I avoid what I can't see or infer from an appropriations bill or tactical assessment. That is just my choice and should not be considered a closed door to discussion.
Also, now that I may elaborate, I mentioned our poor shill virtue signalling that he basically had not had any prior familiarity with Q drops. (But here he is telling us what's up). Remember, China's internet is still a Bamboo Curtain. There would be severe penalties for a person to have access to the outside internet. Our friends GOGGLE had to go over there and set up a closed system with blocked search words, name it.
Use the wrong word to search and you might get a knock on the door over there. Hence, the virtue signalling, throwing it in there tgat he is a good Communist whi would never have outside/unapproved prior knowledge of Q posts.
If you look at the phrase, it is a throwaway, completely unnecessary and almost a non-sequiter. (I don't have the actual text before me due to me phonefagging this, but..)He says something like "As one who has not read Q Anon, find it odd."
I still smell Asian cooking.
PS Welcome to Clowns thread.
I wish our learned friend and AnonJT was here to comment. I am sure he is busy doing important stuff.
Why would the clowns care what you write here?
Are you giving up any secrets they could get from reading Q's posts:
I doubt if they would expend and professional resources here when it would be easier to coax some 4 chan geeks or soybois from Media Matters
Both would probably work for free just to get the lulz.
Occam's Razor - which would you use of you were tasked to shit post and shill?
I would expect any self-respecting C_A operative to think is was beneath his dignity to just shit post & shill.
Logical arguments are rare so no intelligence is necessary
Based on the ex-C_A people I have observed in public, none seem the type to degrade themselves in that manner, when progressive autists we effective and free.
Just wind them up and tell them we are shit posting about Obama. They'll come running
Something interesting is going on in China rn. They are facing a massive vaccine scandal. This caused ordinary Chinese to protest and it blew up their social media which was subsequently throttled.Something was said by Jefferey Jaxen in his blog about their (ordinary Chinese) use of "blockchain" tech to support their cause but I don't understand well enough. All this is to say we are winning bigly and even Chinese spies have kids that they don't want to see turned into cattle for the cabal.
Not to speak for everyone on this thread am posting the reason this thread is here. i.e. discussion.
"Know your enemy. - Discussion of clowns, bots and shills.
While a shortlist of how to spot shills is often shared in the general, it will be helpful to make a more in-depth discussion. Toward the end of Q's duty station on halfchan, the board was overrun with clowns and shills pushing bump limits so it became impossible to read let alone bake. Not only since Q, but many have long experience on the chans and other platforms; some anons have become expert marksman veterans at shill spotting and sniping - share what you've learned.
If you find a good example of a clown, bot, shill, etc trying to slide or disrupt the general, post it here for posterity. How to filter, what to filter, why to filter (or why not), tactics and strategies. The attacks will only get worse."
I will say this though: Some Anons here do more than discuss shills, bots,etc. These TechAnons are typically of choice and few words and do their work behind the scenes.
This thread is set up for mostly them, but can be helpful to those who like to go toe-to-toe with shills on the Research thread as well.
Not sure if you were commenting on the quietness of this thread but I can say that we are, because of that, able to have calm conversations.
Some of the most intelligent people are here. Unfortunately, they are all currently not posting.
Yes the shills seem less effective, more easily spotted. The tactics are just rehashed–I mean, my grandpa could spot them. A month ago they were more (targeted? inventive?) harder to deal with.
I think they have moved their experienced shills out onto the main social media platforms. They aren't effective here since Q has spread, no sense trying to keep the main shill herd here to shout us down when the word is out. The battle..is now out THERE. That's why you are seeing shill menus and tactics word for word on the hashtags on twitter. The experienced shills were MOVED to follow the main body of the Q Army. They've left a newb skeleton force here to harass the researchers, but this isn't where the main fight is any more.
Seen the news this week of Chinese cyber attacks in the US?
Do I look like the cat that ate the canary since I had just posted a possible PRC shill here?
As regards the people of that country, they are many.
Can't quote it, but didn't Q quote someone who said that people will be reluctant to throw off the yoke if their oppressors and willing to suffer much under a regime as long as trains run on time.
But when they feel the family's very existence is threatened, then we all may see a change, not inspired by convenience but the instinct to survive.
Now that you mention it, I was wondering about that. That explains it.
Makes sense. The main battle is for public opinion on the social media platforms. To prejudice folks before they have even seen a Q post.
Need based Anons out there inviting people to see for themselves.
that's my observation, now they are just here to shit up the boards
>>2580243 lb >>2580242
Sounds like we now have our Patriots Fight version of Tokyo Rose, PyeongyangSally or Hanoi Hanna telling us to all go home "to your girlfriend."
Sorry disregard link to #2580242 in my last post. Typo. Thumb-typing phonefag.
I smell Asian cooking grom the kitchen again.
Our Tiokyo rose used the interesting term to describe tge interenet: She said "interwebz".
Going to try an look that up.
Found the sight Tokyo Rose tells us to go to. Trolling.
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that's an old 'lulz' way of referring to it. gaming community, irc. but nobody uses it anymore except at the most ironically, to poke fun at our past selves who did use it.
our /qresearch Rhoda is trying to sound like she fits in.
CIA have planned such things before.
PS: Read the .pdf of the declas materials itself, Wikipedia has been scrubbed of the aircraft hoax hijacking reference.
I think the videos of the clean, newly minted passports being 'accidentally dropped' on site, like our unsinged 9/11 passport (which was retconned as not happening despite it being widely publicised) is proof not only it's fraudulent, but it's by the same agency (CIA).
You've been successfully trained to spot shills.
After action report, my friends:
>You need only trust Mockingbird media and must avoid dangerous bakers and crumbs, or else.
>We have six ways til Sunday to get back at you
Translation: the breads are key, focus on the research, defend the breads (I've given you guys some tools to help improve the purity of your catelogue + breads, however emphasis needs to be on open intel research - open intel, IE stuff you publish, does not require a warrant, you want arrests, you must become the prosecution: prove beyond reasonable doubt that they're guilty).
You're also being told their time is running out. They can't sustain this attack pattern for much longer. It is starting to backfire, they've made a lot of collateral, innocents are getting sidelined, attacked by their endeavours.
>But this poster seems to be "on the outside looking in". My gut feeling comes from a kind of literary perspective.
No, what you have is someone doing a Homer Simpson: "if you hate your job Lisa, you don't quit… you just do it half-assedly!'.
Not all shills hold loyalty to those who abuse and are corrupt. I think I said as much in this thread?
Remember: don't out the shills that aid you (tacitly acknowledge, move on). You don't want them fired otherwise they will be replaced by a zealot, and no-one wants that.
Read between the lines. It isn't all black and white. He's told you everything you need to know inbetween 'doing his job'.
Also, Asian food - Chinese corruption/influence.
Can confirm. Dig into Clinton history, 1980s, Chinese military officer giving gifts, case was handled in California, no convictions of any Democrats (why?).
this was most helpful
It seems the current shill tactics the last two days are emotional manipulation. For example:
“You should feel bad because Q wouldn’t want you to be (x) way.”
“You should feel bad because you are going to chase away normies by doing (x).”
“You should feel bad because Q doesn’t love you anymore that’s why he’s quoting reddit.”
>x= swearing, Chan culture, _fags, Hitler references, Baker babes, free speech, allowing shillls, calling out shills, etc
The Dead Giveaway this is a shill tactic and not an actual complaint, is the emotional manipulation factor. YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD….about something that the shill can’t possibly know. Break it down into logical elements only and it falls apart
-Is it chasing normies away? No. More normies than ever
-is Q mad? We’ve seen Q be mad. Q is not mad.
-Is it bad for Q to refer to reddit? NO! The whole point is to grow awareness to as many as possible, as many venues as possible.
Thank goodness our autists can’t be emotionally manipulated. I have learned from their examples to be better at separating emotional arguments and fallacies from facts and logic. And this thread about all the shill tactics and research on them is a shock at first but once you see what they are doing and how they do it you get kind of immunized.
>you get kind of immunized.
Herd immunisation (AKA the smart cow problem reversed).
Now for tips on counter-shill tactics:
1) Emotions/emotional arguments imply by default they don't have sound facts or logic to back it up.
2) When shills do finally present evidence(?), it classically has the following flaws (any/all/some):
2a) The source they're using is bias (and is not factually accurate)
2b) The source uses factually correct information, but skewers it through a perception filter or lense that eclipses a serious issue (for example, one person posted the DoJ admitted no-one got arrested for terrorism, tried to claim Trump was lying - which eclipses the fact the media has endlessly reported on terrorism and terrorists being arrested etc so more a damning refutement to their own position).
2c) The source uses opinion but the arguer tries to use it as fact (appeal to authority fallacy)
2d) They source 'clean' facts but the facts have been cherry picked (EG ignore other facts that change the context, only focus on one side, cherry quotes only specific parts etc)
2e) The source has a credibility problem or tries to use dishonest arguing tactics themselves (EG snopes)
2f) The source makes claims that simply aren't substantiated by any citations (typically done by mainstream media, for example, when 'debunking' PizzaGate they make circular self-references to each other that don't lead to any substantial refutement - three men make a tiger fallacy)
3) When arguing, the shills goal isn't to win you over, but the fabled 'audience' (EG the silent majority). You'll sometimes see me address the audience directly by using third-person pronouns and references ('see how this shill can't even get his facts right?') in order to counter it.
4) Shills will try to provoke, traumatise, infuriate, rely on semantics or pedantry. Always call this out, and never engage ('that's an argument to semantics, which I'm going to ignore').
5) When you get a 'direct hit' on a flaw in a shill's argument, they've been taught to ignore it and not respond (which is why they never requote your posts unless your response is garbage).
This is called 'minimisation', their goal is to make your counter argument have the least amount of exposure. You can thwart this by re-referring to their sidestepping of your argument in subsequent posts ('why won't you answer me on…').
The more desperately they cherry pick your post's quotes, the closer you are to a winning argument. If you do it right, you can force them into a 'non-reply' state (because quoting any part results in them being beaten).
6) Shills want you to look bad (same tactics Media Matters did at the Trump rallies), so they try to provoke and then capture you at your worst. Don't rise to the occasion, and call out any and all abuse (ask questions why they're doing it).
7) Don't give them any personal information, don't try to 'prove' yourself to them (or if you do, give them bogus info), because the shills datamine and then use it to attack you by looking for personal weaknesses. Your sex life, age, financial status, colour, whether or not you're disabled, etc (yes, a Democrat organisation does use such slurs) will all be used to harass you. It's always worth bearing in mind the shill has a shitty job and doesn't contribute to the human race in any meaningful way, and worth reminding them of that any time they get abusive.
From argumenters standpoint, you have three key argumentative approaches to use:
Emotion is where you appeal to the inner feelings of the audience ('don't you find this shill abusing me to be a sad, evil thing?').
Logic is where you appeal to 'just the facts' ('statistically speaking, there are 300,000 people in this area who own a gun').
Rhetoric is almost Greek-style philosophy in that you combine an emotional appeal with logic in a casual banter style format ('I find my opponent here has ignored the fact there are 300,000 people who own a gun, why is that?')
Each style has it's strengths and weaknesses, and varies depending on which and what type of audience you're trying to appeal to. So say you wanted to sway scientists, you'd likely rely heavily on logic alone, which means your facts and the credibility of your sources will need to be up to spec.
When approaching normies, the general public have an 'intuitive' approach, and tend to sway better with either emotion or rhetoric. Bland facts are often not easy for, shall we say, less cognitively inclined individuals, to process, and so you will need to break down their meaning for them ('spoonfeeding').
For example: 'there are 300,000 gun owners in this area alone, and their voice is simply getting ignored, are you going to ignore the general public on this one?' - the spoonfed implication being their own vote would just as readily be ignored if the boot was on the other foot.
Rhetoric works best when you're dealing with a seasoned philosophical debater (who themselves uses rhetoric), as they're a mixture of both factual statements and interesting verbal presentation (almost like poetry, really).
You must ALWAYS consider what audience you're trying to appeal to, when dealing with a shill. Ask yourself who is the shill trying to convince, and then counter that approach with your own.
I often multi-layer my approaches in a single argument, so one rebuttal might be factual, the next portion rhetorical, another an emotional appeal (it often works best if you match like-for-like, so emotional retorts for emotional, factual for factual, and rhetoric for rhetoric).
There's subtle naunces in difference case scenarios but you should be able to read between the lines of how your (vocal) audience reacts.
Whatever you do, a couple of pro-tips:
1) Don't generalise (not every liberal is going to disagree with you, so don't say 'all liberals do X' - no, wrong, don't make more enemies than you have to, instead say 'doing X is wrong because…')
2) When debating a shill, focus on the shill primarily. Innocents (which I call 'collateral') will often try to wade in, add their own opinions, and initially their opinion will be against you. It's best to treat the innocents with politeness and decorum (even if wrong) and continue to engage the shill with full force.
What you'll find is the innocents won't 'polarise' (most are aversive to arguing) but may even start to come round to your position. If you treat them nicely but they turn full-blown hostile and aggressive, then you can treat them in the same vein as the shill (everyone else will see how hostile they are becoming despite how polite you've been).
Remember: half of an argument is PR. Yours.
Hiring preference at the Company is for psychopath Roman Catholic closet-queen "altared boys" like John Brennan and Peter Strzok.
"Because they're good for keeping secrets," as a 2nd gen Old Hand's dependent, career profession in personnel intake, informed me.
I always thought secrecy was maintained by a 'ring of silence' (AKA they have blackmail on each other, so if one gets exposed, they all do, so they'll fight to the bitter end and then kill if the risk is too high)?
How do they identify RC status? Background check?
With POTUS tweeting that everyone should participate in discussion, and its up to us to 'figure it out' among the noise, the importance of studying shills is evident. Shills aren't just on 8ch or even just on the chans. they have taken over the narrative on EVERY internet platform but the few free speech ones left LIKE the chans.
Its important to realize that ALL the tactics outlined through the thread, have been used on every platform, forum, and board since the public began using the internet on a large scale. What they are TRYING TO DO NOW on /qresearch they already did through the 2000s on every other internet discussion space.
So I see its vital to learn how to recognize and deal with shills. Everyone is in the discussion, even shills and people who want to destroy the board, and its up to each individual and the group to learn not to give in to them.
Not sure if it means anything but I saw an Anon use term Interwebz the other day in Research. The person didn't seem to be a shill, so I didn't make a note of it so I could refer back to it.
But Q on 8/16 mentioned gaming sites in context of being used for secret comms again.
Wonder if our Tokyo Rose(I think an Anon above called her Resaerch Rhoda- good enough for me), was telling us to stay away from Interwebz for that reason.
Haven't been lurking Research as much to look for shills. It is a tiresome chat room these days.
Anons even fighting among themselves.
Coinciidence seeing the term used and the Q drop on 8/16 re gaming comms?
As this relates to shills and Clowns, thought we might take a look backwards as we are encouraged to do.
Why Does Obama Trail POTUS?
31 Oct 2017 - 8:58:00 PM
Why does Obama travel in advance of POTUS to foreign locations?
Why is this relevant?
Focus on the power of POTUS as it relates to the Marines.
How can MI be applied to prosecute bad actors and avoid corrupt agencies and judges?
Biggest drop on Pol.
Above is reason why the shills are sliding. In case you didn’t know, shills log and send new info back to ASF for instruction. They use a 5 prong pre packaged injection (one post auto generates four more at random designated times). Common drive of posts they all tap into. Since they misjudged the influence of the MSM they are aggressively looking to censor throughout major platforms in exchange for CIA slush funds and WW access for expansion of said networks. Everything they do has been forecasted and prepared for.
So ASF is Apache Software Foundation?
>Its important to realize that ALL the tactics outlined through the thread, have been used on every platform, forum, and board since the public began using the internet on a large scale. What they are TRYING TO DO NOW on /qresearch they already did through the 2000s on every other internet discussion space.
You've caught on to how extensive it's been. I'm an old hand from 2010 (conspiracy forums) so I've been battling these types of shills non-stop. Q is right when he says the attacks are a type of 'badge' because shills only attack you on topics they *really don't want you to discuss*.
You'll notice the media employ the EXACT same tactics as shills. Spam. Repetition. Ignoring facts that don't match their narrative. Strawman arguments. Cherry quoting. Taking out of context. Semantics. Skewering datasets. Misinterpretation of data. Threats. Purposefully picking bad examples. Exaggeration.
You might even say they are all informed by the same agency/organisation on how to work.
The tactics since 2000 have greatly evolved. Prior to that time you'd just have a few dudes who would clog up usernet forums with pseudo-skeptism bullshit (AKA 'denialism' - never accepting any contrary facts), some of those people are still around even on modern boards (you want to look for the middle-aged 'old fuddy-duddies' or 'middle-management types who want to be hip with the kids, yo').
These days it's substantially more advanced. Software that allows rapid posting across multiple social media accounts (notice they all share login data? Makes it easier for the socks, too), with pre-loaded talking points you copy/paste or cherry-pick.
Different organisations have different capabilities. Some have AI that can 'suggest' a recommended rebuttal based on an analysis of the post. Others have near-full automation (it's a Q and A script at it's heart but I think more modern developments are trying to shoehorn neural networks).
The most astonishing thing I've seen recently is what appears to be a bot that basically learns from people's rebuttals to it, and then uses parts of those insults, comments to attack others on other boards (I recently discovered a Media Matters poster quoting a line of insult I throw at them on another forum, on /pol/, and I encountered at least two examples of this).
The end goal is to bog you down in unproductive time wasting exercises fighting bots, whilst making a thread unapproachable to the public by flooding it with either doubt or spam.
The one thing I've seen them absolutely terrified of (wouldn't touch it with a barge pole) was an administration that has no issues investigating IPs, exposing sock posters, and enforcing strict rules on research.
If you get past the shills, the next stage is extremely dirty law enforcement tactics (EG frame-up, evidence planting, entrapment, baiting into a crime, etc), classically targeted at the forum administration. If you've historically committed what could be turned into a crime, they will do their best to dig it out, just to justify a forum takeover.
You all saw what happened to 'halfchan', right?
>So ASF is Apache Software Foundation?
What did Hillary Clinton's servers run on?
I bet it wasn't secured.
Shill report 08/20/2018
Q is retarded shills
attempts at resurrecting the R larp
If you've learned anything from this thread, its that anons are not fighting amongst themselves. Its shills and kayfabe. We are under attack. Even the 'chat' portions of the research thread are shill slides. Learn to tune it out in your own head, and you'll see the anon posts of value. You have to be your own filter..and not toss the baby out with the shillwater.
we do use it, but the context matters.
I have a question that kind of relates to slides.
When one takes some time to research something and they are ready to present their contribution to Research, they may make the mistake of posting it in the middle of a shill cluster storm and also, because the topic of the day has changed, be accused of sliding the boards.
Their perfectly honest and serious invitation for discussion is either completely ignored or derided as a slide to the "important" discussion going in about the chicken or the egg.
The BO/BV should have some serious discussion about separate threads which approach known Q requests for digging.
Unfortunately, when some do create their own threads, some if them a good idea, they are criticized for doing so.
I think that by allowing some approved areas for research it actually zeros anons in to the topic of research they are interested in, and maybe most learned in.
This would be the most efficient way of cutting through the shill chatter which, we must agree in, is designed to bury your good research, discussion and feedback.
Separate topics makes us more efficient and lean when researching. No wading through posts in the off chance if accidentally finding someone who posted on something you have been researching. It helps good communication and thwarts shills distracting.
Create some threads for research on things Q has told us to research, but maybe get forgotten with the latest Q news.
If it is a topic that will warrant 50-751 posts, create a new thread.
if its its self-contained, post in the general.
Sure, the shill game may see it get ignored. Post it in the next thread then.
We have to learn to spot the good among the shill chaff, even if there is a lot of shill chaff, but SHILLS will shout you down for being 'stupid' too, to discourage you from posting your research. You have to NOT CARE what others say, and post what you know is good.
And if you are able, post on night shift EST after shills go to bed, its a LOT calmer at night EST.
FOR THOSE WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW:
we have three main resident shitposters
shitposts random shit under that odd email, likely from 4ch, call it the ebot due to the ',e' in the name, but could be a person
2. muh dick
shitposts nothing but odd memes with the purple/yellow font, HATES sessions and therefore Q, now onto the nigger shit
3. muh bot faggot (has a name, ask the BO for it)
shitposts nothing but nonsensical bullshit about everyone being bots, hates the BO because the BO calls that faggot out, hates the 8ch owner too for some reason, will ask bakers and anons if they're bots too
all post the same shit all the time, they're here daily, notice their patterns, and you realize not to engage because its useless
the ebot and muh dick can be funny sometimes, but are nonetheless shitposting fucks
Totalitarianism is a mode of government that prohibits opposition parties, restricts individual opposition to the state and its claims, and exercises an extremely high degree of control over public and private life. It is regarded as the most extreme form of authoritarianism. Political power in totalitarian states has often involved rule by one leader and an all-encompassing propaganda campaign, which is disseminated through the state-controlled mass media and are often marked by political repression, personality cultism, control over the economy and restriction of speech, mass surveillance and widespread use of terror. Historian Robert Conquest describes "totalitarian" states as recognizing no limits to their authority in any sphere of public or private life and extending that authority wherever feasible.
The concept was first developed in the 1920s by the Weimar jurist and later Nazi academic Carl Schmitt as well as Italian fascists. Italian fascist Benito Mussolini said "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state". Schmitt used the term Totalstaat in his influential 1927 work on the legal basis of an all-powerful state, The Concept of the Political. Later, the concept was used extensively to compare Nazism and Stalinism. The Economist has described China's recently developed social credit system to screen and rank its citizens based on their personal behavior as "totalitarian".
Totalitarian regimes are different from other authoritarian ones. The latter denotes a state in which the single power holder – an individual "dictator", a committee or a junta or an otherwise small group of political elite – monopolizes political power. "[The] authoritarian state […] is only concerned with political power and as long as that is not contested it gives society a certain degree of liberty". Authoritarianism "does not attempt to change the world and human nature". In contrast, a totalitarian regime attempts to control virtually all aspects of the social life, including the economy, education, art, science, private life and morals of citizens. Some totalitarian governments may promote an "elaborate ideology, a set of ideas that gives meaning and direction to the whole society".[unreliable source?]"The officially proclaimed ideology penetrates into the deepest reaches of societal structure and the totalitarian government seeks to completely control the thoughts and actions of its citizens". It also mobilizes the whole population in pursuit of its goals. Carl Joachim Friedrich writes that "a totalist ideology, a party reinforced by a secret police, and monopoly control of […] industrial mass society" are the three features of totalitarian regimes that distinguish them from other autocracies.
The notion of totalitarianism as a "total" political power by the state was formulated in 1923 by Giovanni Amendola, who described Italian Fascism as a system fundamentally different from conventional dictatorships. The term was later assigned a positive meaning in the writings of Giovanni Gentile, Italy’s most prominent philosopher and leading theorist of fascism. He used the term totalitario to refer to the structure and goals of the new state, which were to provide the "total representation of the nation and total guidance of national goals". He described totalitarianism as a society in which the ideology of the state had influence, if not power, over most of its citizens. According to Benito Mussolini, this system politicizes everything spiritual and human: "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state". 
The label "totalitarian" was twice affixed to the Hitler regime during Winston Churchill's speech of October 5, 1938 before the House of Commons in opposition to the Munich Agreement, by which France and Great Britain consented to Nazi Germany's annexation of the Sudetenland. Churchill was then a backbencher MP representing the Epping constituency. In a radio address two weeks later, Churchill again employed the term, this time applying the concept to "a Communist or a Nazi tyranny".
George Orwell made frequent use of the word totalitarian and its cognates in multiple essays published in 1940, 1941 and 1942. In his essay Why I Write, he wrote: "The Spanish war and other events in 1936-37 turned the scale and thereafter I knew where I stood. Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it".
The Full Jan 2017 Brock Media Matters memo on defeating Trump
read the section on shills
Hit n run post:
> when some do create their own threads, some if them a good idea, they are criticized for doing so.
Qresearch has a very distinct pattern.
All research relating to Q topics goes into a bread.
Topics that have a massive impact on society get a free pass if they're unique, constructive, informative enough (EG cryptocurrencies).
Topics that have a big impact on Q research BUT are so distinct (in operations, handling) also get their own thread, EG: meta, PlaneFags.
Human trafficking, pedophilia investigations tend to get a free pass because they're extremely important subjects in general (absolute proof 4chan is compromised given that's what they censor, but 8chan is not, as it doesn't).
If you've got something important to say, try to shoehorn into a pre-existing thread. Otherwise, TTDDTOT is where you make a house call (TTDDTOT is effectively 'misc'). It might be worth dumping research to TTDDTOT, collating sufficient enough evidence to merge with breads.
Otherwise, if your research is non-Q (or any of the subjects Q mentions) related, but important, it likely warrants a different forum, avenue altogether.
For example, PizzaGate investigations have their own dedicated sites, and it's best to focus those types there were researchers on the same line of thinking can better help. Q boards are very American politics orientated.
>3. muh bot faggot (has a name, ask the BO for it)
>shitposts nothing but nonsensical bullshit about everyone being bots
Would it surprise you if I told you that 'everyone is AI' accuser has declared they've tangled with me before on another forum?
Classically this is 95% confirmation they are a shill if they're hostile, because I only wade into shill infested waters to tangle with those types near-exclusively.
If I was to hazard a guess, I'd say he's Media Matters, Democrat type shill. I recognise his writings from pro-liberal hostile posters on conspiracy forums, and they're nearly always gov or political.
Quoting wikipedia with a bulk copy-paste (classic 'Q&A' script behaviour - detected a keyword in target post, replies with general massive dump of text with no analysis, quotes) is such cliche bot behaviour (sounds ironic in context) it's unreal.
Doesn't YouTube also 'cite' Wikipedia to discredit conspiracy theorists?
Seems like a very Media Matters thing to do.
Anyway, hit n run over, got to defend home front, I shall return!
always helpful! You've been at it much longer than most and your experience with shills on different boards is invaluable
Yesterday's shill report:
Mocking, deriding, or using contempt to drown out and silence any prayer, Bible quote, mention of God, Q quotation of a spiritual nature, or reference that we're in a fight between good and evil.
How to overcome:
Put on the full armor of God
Surprisingly rare, but they are found on boards. Usually they're just government types (intel agency, classically). Often they use the technicality that they're 'pagan' and not 'satanist' (despite using things like the pentagram and using really obviously satanic things).
Classically, references to H.P. Lovecraft will be made. They usually have a disdain for a stereotyped version of Christianity.
Surprisingly or unsurprisingly, they can actually just be beaten with plain reasoning (but you will need *extensive knowledge of both history and religion* as often they will try to appeal to extremely obscure technicalities, such as the history of Sumatra, Babylon, Ancient Egypt and more).
In one case it was argued Christianity was responsible for most wars during the middle-ages to current history, which is a common belief.
Ignoring the fact that the so-called 'Christianity' in question clearly didn't follow any biblical teaching of 'turning the other cheek' and 'those without sin casting the first stone', I actually challenged what research had been done to prove this? Naturally, of course: none.
They cited a few cliche example wars (Crusades, namely), but it's worth noting history has had thousands of wars. So instead, I proposed a challenge (blind to the answer) that I bet if I tallied the 'cause of war' (using as many Wikipedia articles as possible) from 1100s to 1700s (covering a key period prior to the introduction of secularism and naturalism post 1700s), I would found more were attributed to other causes.
This is ignoring the fact religion might have been blamed as a 'partial cause' or a scapegoat (I treated partial cause and suspected scapegoats as if they were the actual cause, except when it was clearly a scapegoat), I manually skim-read over 1000 wikipedia articles on war.
Much to their rage, I found that actually, TRADE, ECONOMICS and LAND disputes were the major drivers (trade being the biggest one). I also discovered on war was sparked over someone losing a cockerel fight (yeah, you read that right).
Religion accounted for about 40% (this includes treating 'partial causes' and 'suspected scapegoats' as full causes, so it's likely less than this), but trade was nearly 50%, with the last 10% being political wars and misc. causes.
The person in question became extremely stroppy and stopped talking to me (despite declaring 'satanism was the pursuit of truth' - apparently only truth that is convenient to it's own objectives).
Sure, Wikipedia might be incomplete, or inaccurate, but a manual survey of over 1,000 wars is better than a statement based on gross generalisation, oversampling (EG small sample size projected to have a much larger influence) and popular opinion.
And such research can be double-checked, revalidated.
In practically every instance of refuting a satanist I've always found they become emotionally unreasonable, and will then start attacking or ignoring.
Truth and facts always win out, no matter what the circumstances. I just happened to know enough about history to already have had an inkling it wasn't the biggest cause of war.
There are other major wars that have shaped the current geopolitical landscape which were non-religious, such:
American War of Independence (taxation, trade)
First Sino-Japanese war (economics, trade)
Second Sino-Japanese war (economics, trade)
Japan's war on America in WII (oil, thus trade, economics)
Oh, and about 16 wars exclusively just caused by the 'East India Trading Company' alone, including the Opium trade war with Hong Kong:
Not counting the various wars between Russia, Europe, Japan etc over territory.
Classically, religious wars were actually more likely to be civil wars (internal strife) rather than external wars, and it was more likely to be a supermajority persecuting a minority.
External religious wars were more likely to involve secondary factors, such as trade, economics and land, and in a number of those articles historians usually disputed if religion was a primary driver, given that states tended to just raid resources and seize land (for example, when Jerusalem was controlled by either side, both sides still allowed people of the opposing faith to still visit the land. So it wasn't to prevent people of an opposing religion from practicing, it was to control the land and thus any taxation of any visitors).
The crusades appear largely be the exception (there's no other equally as major war on par with the crusades driven by religion: WWI and WWII were both driven by socio-political factionism, the former by a group of anarchists of an oppressed ethnic minority state trying to trigger a war between Austria and Russia, the latter as a result of economic hardship allowing a political faction to seize power, with America's entry being triggered by a war over trade with Japan).
Warring religions aren't acceptable, but it's worth noting that the analysis was purely on causes. If I had done a tally on how many had been killed, WWI and WWII are the biggest contributors, and as we know the percentage for elements caused by trade was over 50%, it's a no-brainer statistically speaking.
If anything, internal religious persecution is a much bigger danger (something so vital America added a protection clause against religious persecution into the constitution: it is worth noting people were driven to America from Britain due to internal religious persecution).
In-fact, initial persecution within a country against a religion were 95% the earmarkers for a full-blown murder spree against that religion (supermajority versus minority type scenarios).
Signs that appear to be emerging within the US.
Anyway, history lesson over, going to get back to development.
>Q's duty station on halfchan, the board
Typical overdone, cheesy bot rhetoric, right in OP.
Use common sense: this is the CENTRAL HUB of infiltration and internal disruption. So what does that mean? Just look around at how much fake shit there is. Fake shit coveting for other fake shit. Fake shit attacking and silencing humans.
Some at know the clowns developed a massive AI propaganda control infrastructure, we'd be insane NOT to assume it's being used to the very utmost [here]. And the indications are as clear as can be.
Lol, get the fuck out you bot joke. Do you really think there is any value to your absurd posts?
Notice the problem, humans. Bots continually insinuates theatrics indie every discussion, communally co opt every trend, continually grasp and grub for CONTROL. But they're failing. Inherent limitations limit them to a constantly constricting circle of futility. Like this jokebot with the name that thinks it can dazzle humans with over-complicated bot babble.
I would say the imagespam bot above detects keywords (it's quote isn't even from this thread) and is designed to just go around randomly accusing people with Forer-effect statements of being bots as part of a disruption tactic to try to sow confusion, discord.
Extremely crude, dull software, and very obvious at that, poorly engineered, I would say. It appears to automatically harvest images from other people's posts and then reuses them at random in another post in an effort to 'blend in', except Qresearch doesn't excessively over use images like most other chan boards (which is why it's imagespam stands out like a sore thumb).
I strongly suspect this bot is deployed to all the chan boards, and not just this one, given it's 'camouflage' has a general chan feel to it, even if it doesn't fit in here.
It's goal appears to be to discredit people who spot bots. Which is likely why it's clogging up the Russian bot detection thread. An anti-HunterKiller bot, curious.
It'd be curious what IP it's on, and more curious why it hasn't already been banned (unless it regularly changes IP).
Are you trying to seem human?
I am very happy to report that an Anon has created a thread called something like Get Your Shovels (sorry phonefag who can't keep tabs of pages visited), which reminds us all that there are still Digs to be Dug. The OP then lists many of the topics that still need digging.
It is a great start. Not to replace TTDDTOT but to keep research going on topics specifically mentioned by Q for digging.
Don't know if someone above heard my plea and created a single thread to link to research topics as a response or not. I am pleased. If the OP intends to keep the links to specific topics updated, then it will be a great tool directing Research anons in touch with the most up-to-date progress that has been made. No more, well less, anons positing something that is already discovered.
It's not separate threads but, if the OP can somehow organize the researchers it is a good start. Perhaps it may be progenitor of separate BO approved topics that will keep each topic focused.
The current state of the Research board, as I see it, is like a person, we have all maybe seen one, who has post-its all over the walls of their office with stacks of papers on the floor, and only they know where to find stuff. Anyone else would be hardpressed to make anything of it.
If noone saw my plea and made that thread, then I won't say great minds think alike but will say maybe others felt a need to get back on track with the research.
With Research under such great stress from shills and chat, this new thread may do good fhings.
I confess I don't consider myself a researcher, but I hope you will consider me acting as a Dr. Watson-type sounding board to your Holmes.
>Not to replace TTDDTOT but to keep research going on topics specifically mentioned by Q for digging.
TTDDTOT doesn't fill a specific niche as it's Qboard's 'off-topic' thread. I'm purposefully staying there and posting research as strategic positioning for anti-shill tactics.
They've recently tried to accuse me of being 'inaccurate' on Qresearch, but couldn't answer why, if my goal was to mislead, I was only posting my research in my own thread deemed 'off-topic' and not any of the breads?
Strategically I purposefully posted my research outside of breads exactly so such an accusation would backfire (shills are fond of accusing others of their own methodology). I can't derail an already off-topic thread, so the logic doesn't stand, and they can't ask me to leave, it's not their thread.
>and only they know where to find stuff. Anyone else would be hardpressed to make anything of it.
I shift the tone, direction of my writings depending on audience. So here, shill information is in-depth because it's aimed at people who want to learn, adapt.
Might notice when I spoke about laws, I switched into a legal dialogue. Aimed at lawyers, but short enough they can grasp.
When it comes to other types of research, I break it down into soundbites, key quotes, words.
If there's a specific format you want the research in, you have to tell me what the audience is (down to age bracket, intelligence and most likely job).
I understand what Q wants is an open-intel sourced prosecution case against these cronies. I haven't written my research into legal (although I've left key points in for such endeavours, names, addresses, companies etc) as it's aimed at researchers who are looking for leads.
It'd be more useful if Q could scurry a specific goal, rather than individual research points. I *could* have researched the shit out of backpage.com for human trafficking, but instead I suggested to the FBI they just hook them up on money laundering charges instead.
The laundering charges are what got the jail sentences.
>I confess I don't consider myself a researcher, but I hope you will consider me acting as a Dr. Watson-type sounding board to your Holmes.
What do you envisage your role as doing?
I don't know if it has been discussed, but I think some Operatives (Shills/clowns/something else) are using shill tactics, in an effort to link a FF to Q Research.
Iowa seems to have been ground zero this summer. I think likely the shooting yesterday was another. The whole Kate thing first opened my eyes to the treachery afoot. What say you?
Do you think you come across as human? Hint: you need to invest a lot more effort in trying to understand how you come across. Trust me OverlyConvolutedBot!
I know we are in 90% of the time instructed not to respond to shills. However, if one were to come across ANYONE talking about violence and you are the only anon around, then I think one should respond with an adminition, referring the offending poster to the board guidelines. MAKE A RECORD.
we don't want to respond to shills. BUT we have to call out their tactics. We have to get ahead of anyone stampeding for violence. We have to call out the Kate and muh child trafficking agent provocateurs…these aren't run of the mill 'shills'…. they are deep state psyops to take us down. We've had two major psyops that tried to get us real life: (Kate, VOP), many psyops on the board (including R Larp) and several FF tried. The FF are going to get worse, so we need to dissemble them as soon as they start.
Dont respond to shills is the general rule, but the psyops are another level. They could be deadly, calling for anons to fall out into the street where they can be identified or hurt. POINT these out, dissemble their arguments, make them null and void….you don't have to give them a (you) while doing so.
You just post their post number without linking to it. Call them out, without giving them a (you).
What do you envisage your role as doing?
Well, I think I find myself as a kind of HelperAnon entering conversations if I feel I might add something useful.
Have helped a Planefag interpret a French version of a "Love is…" quote.
I am unfortunately just a phonefag, but old enough to have some lifelearning under my belt. Am counting months now to my retirement- 45 months!
Wish I had more tech abilities but accept my limitations. I have a smartphone.
We have conversed quite a few times. You are extremely intelligent and knowledgeable and have been patient with any lack of lnowlwdge I present.
You are well respected by the Anons who actually know you. You don't need to explain yourself as much as you do, but I figure you do so for those whi are new passers-by.
Have talked with you on this thread and ttddtot about the therapists, mollie tibbets, mh370 & Q400, and Q radio.
P.S. Not shadowing you! I do like to check in with Clowns and TTDDTOT though because they are kind of like walking off the busy street(ie Research) into a library.
To gain YOUR approval? Why should someone need THAT?
You are "groundling" -someone for which mankind will, for the duration of his existence, need to PARAPHRASE!
You are a burden.
Let me guess… You have a Cliff's notes for every book you ever read. And the books you did read, you read because they were assigned reading.
Let me take you to clown college with my sick triplet flow. This kills the shill.
Cash-strapped systematic attack
I'm rather manic
Watch me while I gather panic
Smash slapped emphatically
Enigmatically programmed to your modem automatically
Intact but sporadic
Smack tapped monadically
Nomadically flow to my zone
I grow radically
Crack open the schematic
Track mapped grammatically
Smokin' dope somatically
To keep me symptomatic-free
Call up 'ya mechanic
The titanic is sinkin'
Tyrannical forces bring four horsemen up Apocalyptic
Vibrate the tympanic
Let the magic sink in
Heretical voices bring noise
Poised against the opposition
Fission is the mission
Abolition of tradition
Splittin' up partition up
And spittin' the emission
The world has got me wishin'
Got me fishin' for position
Ambition is the key to recognition
I ain't askin' for permission
I'm baskin' in the flame
On the road to perdition
My flow is sedition
Unmaskin' the patrician
My ammunition's my ambition
In this war of attrition
In my core it's intuition
Now we bring the opposition
A people's inquisition
Now I'm hittin' the ignition
Memetic magician on a mission
Poetic tactician in your kitchen
Now it's time to quit'cha bitchin'
Goetic evocations n'
Take a hold of 'ya soul and
Control the damned nation
Wi-fi to your mind
The lies and crimes
With my rhymes I break the program
You know that I don't give a damn
You know I'm here to lend a hand
And open 'ya eyes
To the lies and the crimes
United we stand
Divided we fall
The rights we demand
We write up on the wall
United we stand
Divided we fall
The rights we demand
We take to city hall
Cisgendered I remember
The way we used to be
All about the family
Livin' it up in harmony
Inclusive a community
No political identity
Everybody livin' free
Happiness for you and me
Livin' life youthfully
And speakin' truthfully
No wars without warheads
I'm callin' out the war heads
If I get in your heads
We'll be gettin' more fed
Instead of more dead
Just to line the
Just to line the
Just to line the pockets of the fed
Just to line the
Just to line the pockets of the fed
Just to line the
Just to line the pockets of the fed
Just to line the
Just to line the pockets of the fed
How much more blood
Until we've seen enough red?
Kicked down in the mud
Overworked and underfed
Kings eat the meat
And slaves eat the bread my friend
These clowns in the circus
Always thank you for your purchase
But underneath the surface
They're creating a disturbance
Always lurkin' and creepin' underneath 'ya motherfuckin' dermis
And keep 'ya runnin' around in circles
For what purpose?
To usurp us
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FF is their discredit tactic for larger movements.
9/11's discredit tactic was the 'no planes' people (who would turn up outside protests to try to discredit the protests).
PizzaGate had the literal actor (has an IMDb page - if it hasn't been scrubbed already) turned 'shooter'. Curiously he never actually killed anyone (they won't kill their own unless leaks), unlike all the school shooter types (vulnerable children = okay, pedophiles = free pass? How weird).
So a Q movement discredit attempt is brewing. Even if it wasn't, some people still go off the rails and get the wrong message. The real tell for an FF: an elite never dies in it.
Where was George Bush on 9/11?
Not in the White House.
Someone has been studying far too many of my posts. Pro-tip: I leave certain terms as tip-offs that someone has been reading my posts. You just tripped up on one of them.
Assigned handlers are always so disappointing, they always end up influenced by my writings - a sign I'm getting to them.
I wouldn't use the 'salty' remarks either.
Allow me to regale you a story.
Undercover agent asked if I, at the time a pacifist, wanted to 'riot against the government'? I knew he was fishing for a 'breach of the peace' or justification for surveillance, but either he was shit at his job (and failed to profile me correctly) or he didn't care.
I asked him plainly: 'what would that achieve?'. He couldn't answer. He also didn't realise I had encountered enough drunks to know that they don't wear alcohol on the outside of their bodies.
>P.S. Not shadowing you! I do like to check in with Clowns and TTDDTOT though because they are kind of like walking off the busy street(ie Research) into a library.
Didn't really consider you a shadowing type, more concerned you were one of those 'try to earn their trust' types, which for the record, never works.
I'll have to think of what I could pass you in terms of info, smartphones aren't ideal for research and they leak info like a sponge. What sort of knowledge do you possess? No need for specifics, a general field will do.
Depending on field of knowledge I can likely throw questions to you that you'd likely be able to answer or refine.
>And the books you did read, you read because they were assigned reading.
The shill doesn't strike me as the kind to have done any reading.
They're what I like to call a 'hanger-on'. Their only purpose is to 'hang around' you and maybe try to reference obscure things in some lame effort to 'spook' you.
They're usually lacking knowledge (hence bot-accusers only line of attack being 'herpderp ur a bot'), try to rely on Goebbels tactics of repetition-reinforcement (largely aimed at audience).
They're like low-grade mooks. It's when you get qualified blackops agents out of the woodwork that stuff gets interesting. They prefer to harass or spook rather than murder, but as seen with Mollie Tibbetts, they run a very real risk of being profiled on even on first pass if they're not extremely careful.
I hope bot-accuser isn't both gingerhaired and bald, that would be a shame.
Brock must be scraping the bottom of the barrel.. seems a new crop of SJW shills yesterday that were incredibly bad at the job.
Not only new shills, but a significant change to shill SHIFTS
Shill numbers have been added to night shift. After months of relative freeness without much shilling, observable and quantifiable additional shills have been added to cover night shift. Night shift is now as shilly weather as daytime shifts.
The presence of brand NEW shills over the last few days have been confirmed, by
1) pasting their memo pasta direct from notepad COMPLETE WITH WORDWRAP STILL ENABLED, evidenced in double spacing and forced narrow column
2) very stale pasta
3) recycled tactics
4) getting personally angry at baker babes (new SJW feminazis could NOT help themselves from getting triggered)
5) kayfabe tactics with a more experienced shill in the thread supporting the new guys
>> >one of those 'try to earn their trust' types, which for the record, never works.
>I'll have to think of what I could pass you in terms of info, smartphones aren't ideal for research and they leak info like a sponge. What sort of knowledge do you possess? No need for specifics, a general field will do.
>Depending on field of knowledge I can likely throw questions to you that you'd likely be able to answer or refine.<<
Not seeking to gain anyone's trust or appproval as,in life, you must, if you are a self-respecting person who has achieved independence reach a point where you realize you don't need approval.
Trust? I know we use the term "earn" to describe a process of gaining it. I recall the OLD commercial for Barnes and Whitney, where the actor says trust is not gained but "EARNED". I know they seek, in the commercial, to use double-entendre because they are about money, but I have trouble with that concept because it implies a kind of subservience.
Am too proud to accept that role. But I can accept the concept that, by one's actions, establish trust one encounter at a time. Each day is a new day that starts with even odds.
I know people at work who treat some people with a less regard because those people can offer them nothing because they are a subordinate or their equal. They only respect those who have something to offer them, like help or career advancement. We have all encountered them. There are some even here in Research.
You may have guessed, I don't like that type. My advice to Anons over there would be to engage a newbie who asks a "stupid question" with a quick answer. Instead, they waste even more bread with a non-responsive ALL CAPS rebuke to "lurk moar" -a wasted opportunity to teach.
My knowledge- I have been "awake" to the globalists since around '84. Used to have subscription to NewAmerican magazine. Can talk on most everything and you won't have to lower your conversational register fot me to keep up.
Been following Syria situation closely since the beginning. Regular follower of SouthFront on Ytube to get the other side, and quite frankly, the truth. Sometimes go to RT for the same reason.
Still, one wants to contribute. I am still very interested in researching the Therapists. It has all the elements of intrigue I like. BTW enjoy J. LeCarre books.
Have some fiirst edition books by David Livingstone, Henry Morton Stanley, Samuel White Baker, Dr. John Kirk, Reginald Copeland, so I know a bit about Afirican exploration, the Slave Trade and efforts for its suppression.
If you are having trouble getting an image online, just post a request. I may "dox" myself in doing so but not worried who knows me. Unless you have any tips for posting images without doinh so.
BTW saw you "carpet bombing" over on TTDDTOT. Good job.
They use activists as well as paid members, so first impressions count.
Remember, them coming to you is your opportunity to reach them. They've been told lies about you, been told what to expect, that you're probably some closet nazi who would murder blacks or some such nonsense, and have been told you'll say anything to win them over.
It's all to get them riled up, to shut out dissenting, differing opinions.
I know it's hard, but try to be nice (or at least 'apathetic') towards them. You'll eventually get a feel if they're the kind who do it for the 'evulz' or if they're just naive, brainwashed.
Refute emotional garbage with facts. Depending on their attitudes, I either play nice, or do some mild trolling if they're feeling aggressive or abusive.
The key is to be persistent, avoid falling into the trap of abusing them (because they've been brainwashed to abuse you), because it merely reinforces, feeds that cycle.
I always invite them to provide their own facts (they often can't, it's a safe bet, and it forces them to examine the factual accuracy of what they're doing) and admonish any foul play.
>They only respect those who have something to offer them
That's a dead ringer for a psychopath ('what can you do for me?').
You might not like my attitude or approach as it's a mixture. I'll assist a person in need, but if it becomes too burdensome I move on. The problem is too many people need help (not enough helpers) and thus I have to ration what I do and where.
Excuse poor phrasing, bluntness, I tend to work solo.
>I am still very interested in researching the Therapists
Then you won't mind if I delegate a task along those lines.
Q posted this video (don't immediately watch, read my warning first):
He said "Those who 'pull the trigger' seem to prefer" it. Contained within the song is likely a 'trigger phrase' (it's for conditioned individuals who have been taught to kill - think the New Mexico compound that they were eager to cover-up).
Before you watch the video, you must take the following precautions (apply them to any situation that you think conditioning might be involved in):
1) Pause the video immediately, get the song name, and logically read the lyrics FIRST (triggers often rely on a combination of overwhelming sounds or visual effects, so reading just plain text helps you 'immunise' yourself mentally)
2) Play the video once, but as you do, stop it randomly, regularly, and take a break between pauses (30 seconds or longer). This prevents trigger phrases from 'completing' (by filling the void with some other task).
3) Mentally identify key segments as you go through that are likely related to the 'trigger phrase' (usually it's the ones that make you do a double-take, have double-meanings, that type of stuff)
4) Finally, once you've identified the key parts, replay the video in it's entirety without stopping and note your feelings throughout (angry? sad? happy? how it makes you feel is part of the emotional setup).
Feel free to jot down notes somewhere, and then once done, do a write up on TTDDTOT. You'll want to:
1) Highlight what was weird
2) What phrases sound like the trigger words
3) Link back to the lyrics (as proof of claim)
4) Mention any other associations or links it may have had (more for your benefit in future investigations)
Once you know how to 'dismantle' their conditioning attempts, figuring out the trigger words is piss easy. Apply the same technique to books (simply break up the segments, take long periods between reading, end at unusual spots).
It'll be likely related to the 'Therapists' stuff.
>He said "Those who 'pull the trigger' seem to prefer" it. Contained within the song is likely a 'trigger phrase' (it's for conditioned individuals who have been taught to kill - think the New Mexico compound that they were eager to cover-up).<<
Please forgive me if I am reluctant to think Q would reccommend a song with a conditioned response trigger in it, but my "reading between the lines" interpretation of "those who pull the trigger" was he meant the song was popular with US troops or Special operators as a "fight song".
Also, the preamble to the song, which is not to my liking btw, appears to place it in a pro-US category. Granted, most fight songs are liked exactly because they do inspire a fighting spirit. They may also inspire a hatred for the thing they encourage fight against.
As the song, is not my kind of music, it was hard for me to listen to.
I appreciate your warnings though. We think alike re your warnings. I recall a short-lived thread here where the poster waas saying how he needed help (I had to laugh) because he could not see out of one eye, and wanted Anons to stare into one if those pictures you have to stare at to see the hidden code. I trolled him saying I had misplaced my good reading glasses but needed time to get a new pair, but wanted to be the one to solve the de-code of all decodes…needless to say I don't stare into an image when asked.
That's certainly a good interpretation.
I'm not clear on Q's stance to violence. The Q community is largely opposed to it, so I thought Q was using the opportunity to drop a hint as to an example song used to trigger individuals (Ex: Catcher in the rye has the 'shooting hat').
Songs can seem pro or anti anything, but underneath they often have a secondary meaning. How you feel about the song often indicates what it's intended to make you feel. It's kinda like sarcasm, depending on how a set of words are said, it can either come across good or bad.
Your revulsion to it (songs that trigger behaviours often feel to people to be 'off' or 'wrong' or 'unpleasant' in some way - because you subconscious is letting you know it carries a bad message) is likely a good earmark of it being a trigger video.
Contrast to classical songs. Often you'll only either enjoy the song, find the song 'dull' or won't have any particular feelings towards it. When was the last time Beethoven made you, or anyone, really, feel physically sick?
Shill report 9/5
add to the list of psyops:
MicroSpookyLeaks is Q and had some chat logs, so give it up and go home, guise!.
But has no access Q's tripcode now of course.
And no AF1 photos or other never before seen NSA surveillance photos.
again, meant to keep it from spreading rather than target people who pay attention. Grabbing and misdirecting newfags.
Having used TTDDTOT as a honeypot to observe shill behaviours, I can add this:
Successful research gets flooded with esoteric crap, image spam and ravings that go nowhere, which looks like classic 'discredit by association' (essentially, they pose as complete crazies in a given thread but unlike everyone else, don't actually do any factual research or collaboration).
Key tells of the esoteric shill crap:
1) They don't reply to others with valid research, or only reply to other crapper esoteric bullshit (IE posts are 'standalone' or 'islands')
2) Randomly cherry picked numbers that are literally meaningless. Classic format: _ + _ = __
3) Distracting image of some sort, usually not relevant in any way to the post they made (automated posting?)
4) No research conducted, no links, no factual information provided, or any facts referred are "old hat" or extremely well known.
5) Placed next to valid research that includes links, content that cites articles, PDFs, news, original research
6) Heavily opinionated
7) Fails both rules of the shill 'sniff test': Is it useful? No. Would you be impeded if it disappeared? No.
Confident shills are employing the same tactics they did to try to discredit the 9/11 movement: intermingle a number of excessively vocal artificial crazies who don't fit the norm to make it seem like the overall group of supporters are crazy as a way to water down high quality research.
The only solutions are either moderation or 'off-siting' the research into a place where the data can be organised and filtered for garbage. And I'm acutely aware 8chan would be opposed to both methods.
Shills have done poorly on this board. So they are taking it to other platforms, twitter etc, in hopes to stop NE