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Use this for cross-dimension shitposting https://nerv.8ch.net/trek/trekgenrl/1701/strek/streak/startrek/furtrek

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2d1068 No.16108

Things that retarded fans seem to parrot as facts but are complete bullshit and grind your gears.

Here is a common one as an example:

USS Defiant - Sisko's ship - Facts:

>Was equipped with a Romulan cloaking device

>Said cloak was to be only used in Gamma Quadrant

>Also meant to be only operated by a Romulan Waifu that disappeared for whatever reason

>When the original Defiant was destroyed, the replacement did not have a cloaking device fitted

Somehow this translates to:

<Federation had developed cloaking technology

<All Defiant Class ships have cloaking devices

Shit like this makes me rage about the Trek fanbase.

b4ebf6 No.16109

>>16108

>Also meant to be only operated by a Romulan Waifu that disappeared for whatever reason

Seriously wtf. She was only in the one fucking episode. I can't believe they dropped that so quickly.


96e312 No.16110

>Vulcans fuck on Pon Farr and ONLY on Pon Farr, so the age difference in Vulcan siblings is in multiples of 7


2d1068 No.16111

>>16109

Literally dropped with no explanation either.

>>16110

I was debating about using that one as an example but went with the cloak instead.


ec93ae No.16112

>federation moneyless economics extends to the whole galaxy except for ferengi

>everything gene roddenberry said and did is official star trek, anything that deviates from that is a betrayal


decc14 No.16115

>>16112

The idea that STD is bad because and only because it deviates from Roddenberry's vision is a bit silly.

Firstly, it's bad because it's bad. And secondly Roddenberry's vision, at least post TOS, largely just resulted in stupid shit like man skirts, and not most of the things people liked about the later shows and movies.


60a76d No.16116

Where did Romulan Waifu go, anyway?


4555fb No.16119

Borg adapting applying to just beam weapons. This one pisses me off because clearly in BoBW they were just really smart and adaptive to any kind of weapon (like nanites), but idiots made this ‘hurr hurr bullets could kill them hurr hurr equip machine guns’


decc14 No.16120

>>16119

I think the idea was no one had ever fired a machine gun at one before, which is questionable. Did they never land on one of those gangster planets?


16e0f9 No.16121

>>16120

>Did they never land on one of those gangster planets?

They did but the gangsters made them an offer they couldn't refuse.


fc0d55 No.16122

>>16119

>>16120

That implies that the Borg can't into kinetic energy. Which is retarded. Even if we assume that the Borg are entirely reactionary and can't ever preemptively adapt to threats, I'm sure at one point in their history a drone leaned to far over a railing or something. Given that the Borg had already assimilated several worlds by the 15th century, even if we assume that boolit kinetic energy is somehow different from all other kinds of kinetic energy for SOME REASON, I think it's safe to say they came across a planet using gunpowder at least once.


e3a1f0 No.16123

>>16115

Post-TOS Roddenberry is also at odds with TOS Roddenberry. The Kirk-Spock-McCoy dynamic would have been impossible under early TNG rules.

>>16122

I think the idea is that Borg shields don't deflect mass…which would be interesting except that means that any race using plasma ground weapons could fuck the Borg's shit up; even if you assume races drop bullets right away when they get energy weapons, some of them do switch to plasma and that would be a difficult issue for them.

It's just a stupid problem. You can easily explain the Borg shielding as being reactive to recent or known incoming threats. If they haven't encountered a particular make of weapon before, it would take a moment before they adapted to it. And also, I don't care if you have adapted shields or not, if you are hit with a phaser beam from orbit or a semi-luminal ballistic round from a rail gun, your portable shield shouldn't do shit. But then you have some fags who think that adaption = perfect immunity.


f941d8 No.16124

>>16111

>Literally dropped with no explanation either.

Sounds like the actress got pissy about pay.


6a82cb No.16125

>>16124

Star Trek used to use an appearance as a kind of audition. If they thought a character looked good in the episode (like Garak or Weyoun) they’d get them back for more.

I’m guessing they weren’t thrilled with her performance and they dropped it because they didn’t want to develop the character of the actress was weak.


f941d8 No.16126

>>16125

It's a shame, the story possibilities of having a Romulan officer aboard what is, at least notionally, Star Fleets premier warship. If nothing else the idea of watching the Defiant bridge crew having to actually live up to their values with an alien crewmate who hasn't been put through a lengthy socialisation and indoctrination process at star-fleet academy.


5b22c7 No.16127

>>16126

It would also have made those episodes where the Defiant does cloak in the Alpha Quadrant (Way of the Warrior being the first) a bit more interesting than Sisko going, "I won't tell if you won't." Then there's the Maquis, and the possible interactions with them. If they weren't genocided because, "LOL we just wanted those for Voyager, kthxbai."

DS9 was a great show, but you can see so much missed potential in parts of it. Makes me wonder just how much better it would have been if the writers fleshed out those aspects. Instead, we get The Exorcist starring Gul Dukat and Avery Brooks rambling about centuries old race riots.


41b203 No.16128

>>16124

Didn't they put her on Voyager instead? As Seska?


f941d8 No.16129

>>16127

>DS9 was a great show, but you can see so much missed potential in parts of it.

I still think it's probably about as good as Star Trek has been so far. Here's hoping for whatever we can get after STD beats the standard set by DS9.


16e0f9 No.16130

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>>16127

>Instead, we get The Exorcist starring Gul Dukat and Avery Brooks rambling about centuries old race riots.

My sides literally split from this post.


f941d8 No.16131

>>16130

>Gul Dukat goes from a fascinating character and almost perfect foil to Ben Sisko to 'LITERALLY SPACE SATAN!!!' by the end of the show.

Behold the power of a butthurt writer


32fceb No.16132

>>16108

><Federation had developed cloaking technology

Considering that Kirk and company stole a fully functional state-of-the-art Romulan cloaking device for the Federation a century before Starfleet had to beg the Romulans for one, I'd say that the Federation not having their own cloaking technology is a bigger plot hole at this point.

>>16131

>How can people like Dukat? He's literally lizard Hitler!

>Put your thinking cap on, Ira.

>OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN WHAT HAVE WE DONE


fc0d55 No.16133

>>16132

>Considering that Kirk and company stole a fully functional state-of-the-art Romulan cloaking device for the Federation a century before Starfleet had to beg the Romulans for one, I'd say that the Federation not having their own cloaking technology is a bigger plot hole at this point.

Something, something, Treaty of Algeron. My guess would be S31 has a sizable force of cloaked vessels, and they use things like the Algeron treaty and begging the knife ears for a cloaking device on the Defiant as interference, keeping the other major powers from realizing that the Feds have this technology.


f5cffe No.16135

>>16133

The Feds had highly advanced cloaking tech that could pass through solid objects. No way S31 let that get away from them.


f941d8 No.16136

>>16133

>My guess would be S31 has a sizeable force of cloaked vessels

Why can't we get a series (or even a decently written couple of episodes) about a Section 31 crew manning a cloaked ship, running around the Alpha Quadrant quietly arranging the odds to make sure that Star Fleet always has the upper hand?


b4f6cb No.16137

>>16136

Because Section 31 is morally ambiguous and I want to watch a positive show, not another BSG. STD is the closest you can get to that funny enough. Lorca seems like he would be the perfect Section 31 Captain.


f941d8 No.16138

>>16137

>Because Section 31 is morally ambiguous

What's morally ambiguous about 'any and all means necessary'? :^)

That's a fair point though, it would be a bit of a leap from the more traditional Star Trek feel, it would be an interesting look at the setting though - the feds win/loss ratio does start to stretch credibility a bit. I haven't seen STD yet, I'm waiting to get the DVDs so I can binge on it over a long weekend.


fc0d55 No.16139

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>>16138

>I'm waiting to get the DVDs so I can binge on it over a long weekend.

What sins have you committed that you feel you deserve this kind of suffering, anon?


f941d8 No.16140

>>16139

I have to hold out hope that it's not entirely beyond salvation. Even ENT and VOY had some interesting and awesome parts. At the very least I want to give it a chance to disappoint me, and there might just be a Gul Dukat character that the writers didn't know they made awesome. If nothing else I want my rage to be well informed.


fc0d55 No.16141

>>16140

Godspeed to you then. I got all the way to the 4th episode before I gave up.


f941d8 No.16142

>>16141

If it is as shit as it seems to be then at least we have The Orville.


a3f367 No.16175

>>16122

If Borg shields could deflect kinetic energy instead of just fricken laser beams, then grabbing them or using an oversize Klingon knife on them wouldn't do a damn thing.


f941d8 No.16191

>>16175

WOLF 359 WAS AN INSIDE JOB, BORG SHIELDS CAN'T DEFLECT STEEL BEAMS!


351b18 No.16217

>>16140

>I watch BLACKED in the hope it one day becomes good

I pity you.


a3f367 No.16330

>>16191

I don't know about steel beams, but they sure can't deflect steel mekleths.


774d0d No.16337

>>16330

Wait why did the tommygun bullets kill the Borg?

Those weren't real bullets those where holograms, they were photons held in forcefields. Borg could easily adapt to most forcefields, and the photons would've lost their image and been harmless. Hell they already adapted to Federation forcefields before.


3cdd76 No.16340

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>>16131

This.

It seems that most of the series' have shitty endings.

>DS9

"MUH SPACE SATAN"

>VOY

"lel let's 1shot the borg with future shit and go home IN ONE EPISODE"

>ENT

"yo guys, let's anticlimactically kill Trip at the last second for no reason 'cause idk. Oh yeah, and this is on the holodeck."


32fceb No.16343

>>16340

>>ENT

>"yo guys, let's anticlimactically kill Trip at the last second for no reason 'cause idk. Oh yeah, and this is on the holodeck."

Unironically one of the worst finales in television history, the single worst episode of ENT and front-runner for the worst Star Trek episode ever. Fuck you for making me remember that it exists.


16e0f9 No.16344

>>16343

But anon It doesn't exist


32fceb No.16346

>>16344

It does when someone mentions it, like that asshole did.


a3f367 No.16394

>>16337

I guess holodeck forcefields are different enough so they weren't able to adapt in time. After all, BULLETS FLY FASTER THAN PHASER BEAMS.

Seriously. Who's fucking idea was it to have weapons shoot at the speed of a slow baseball pitch?


dc0902 No.16396

>>16343

I don’t get the hate. The worst episode of TNG is way above the best episode of Enterprise.


4a698f No.16401

>>16337

>Wait why did the tommygun bullets kill the Borg?

because it made for an entertaining scene.

i have to go with the anon above who said that Borgs don't walk around adapted to every possible method of attack because that would be inefficient. they prepare defense to the type of attack they expect and if something new comes up, well, you only lost a couple of Borg in exchange for valuable intel on enemy offensive capabilities. it's not like they're going to run out of cannon fodder.


3cdd76 No.16403

>>16396

>Wesley episodes are above the best episodes of Enterprise

But that's wrong.


66befd No.16421

>>16394

Yeah that is one thing, why on earth do phasers and shit fly slower than you know, the speed of light?

Wait, how can one fire a phaser in warp if it does say travel at the speed of light it should not be impacted by the warpfield in such a way to it can be fired outside of it…


66befd No.16422

>>16396

I dunno the Xindi series has some bangers.


9975cc No.16423

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>>16108

>>16109

>>16116

>waifu

Anon pls.


fc0d55 No.16424

>>16421

At Warp, it's space that's moving and not the ship. So you could get away with shooting phasers at war speed without breaking the imaginary physics.


f66850 No.16435

>>16422

and mash.




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