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it was russian hackers and the alt-right you stupid filthy goyim


Well what do you know, less liked than The Battle For Endor. Meme it.


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>Endor films have been redeemed

Oh fuck yes. Now if only some brave russian souls would upvote the Phantom Menace.


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What's this I hear about a "critic" wanting to get the audience reviews shut down?



disneytards are trying to get the entire site taken down


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>movie is not a rehash

>bad @ss

Sounds like he's ordering people to go near the end there.




Good. Literally the only non-shit thing about the nutrilogy was that one stormtrooper beating Findu Nuffin's ass.


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>that incoherence


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>if you thought luke was out of character


critic level fell to 90%


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Karma's a bitch


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About damn time a few more stopped sucking mouse cock.



The House of Mouse as well as the Goof Troop are going to have a long word with a few of those professional critics if they keep dropping that percentage.


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> ‘Star Wars: The Last Jedi’ Struggling to Second-Place Opening in China

> Despite a massive screen count and the full force of Disney’s marketing power, early screenings Friday put “Jedi” in only second place. The top spot was retained by Chinese comedy “The Ex-File: The Return of the Exes” in its second week.



Chinks probably aren't watching it as much because of Finn and Rose.



>The Ex-File: The Return of the Exes

Noice. Meanwhile Jumanji is already looking to surpass it.


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>nu-wars beaten by a chink comedy


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You want biwion chinese dowas amewica? Well too bad. It go to ouh top dog, Tian Yusheng! Hohoho! Egg on face foh you!



you mean shrek and donkey


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That's a lowbrow insult. Far more people like Shrek and Donkey than Finn and Rose.



shrek and donkey were hilarious and gave out a good message about the bonds of brotherhood, whereas finn and rose were a forced couple that massively virtue-signaled and pushed the racemixing agenda, and china is now telling them effectively to fuck off by not letting it take the top spot. it won't ever jump to no. 1 in china, and quite frankly will have a lower intake than tfa.


>>6488 (checked)

Quick, what's China's answer to RT? I need to see people screaming obscenities at it in chinkrunes.


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Do you see what's happening? Notice that Rotten Tomatoes has a 50% approval rating on the film. There are also 50% females in the average population. I don’t think that it is an accident that I have read notes from women who say that the latest film caused tears of joy to stream from their eyes every time they saw Rey.

In other words

Drumpfkin misogynerds BTFO for the insecure manbabys that they really are!! smhtbhfsmalam


>>6533 (checked)

I don't think that explanation quite works. Even women seem to be divided on this one, if the RT reviews are anything to go by. Especially since I hear some say Leia and Holdo remind them of middle-management bitches they hate.

>that picture

Nothing about any of her appearances says "military," let alone "admiral." What was she designed for again?



She was designed to be an "appealing" Vanity Fair cover.



It really losses me off how many good characters like Mara, Kyle, Pellaeongods that really killed me were just thrown off a cliff and replaced with these two dimensional, nearly unlikeable characters. We could've had something truly great and beautiful. And we lost it all and for what?! Tumblrism and virtue signaling



>What was she designed for again?

she's nu-mon mothma



Women don’t have the technical where-with-all to register to comment anyplace but facebook.

The 50% who like the movie are Disney bots and soyboys with sockpuppets


I'm still waiting on E;R's review to come out.



Same. You'd think he'd at least do a "semi" like his Blade Runner review. By the time he releases it, the hate hype will be over.



Exactly, but even Mon Mothma's character was unique and the perfect setup for what the new republic was meant to be. And the stories focusing on her put importance on this. She exists to be the wise elder figure and a remnant of a forgotten age for the rebels, much like Obi Wan was to Luke, but unlike him, she's merely symbolic and plays no important role other than exist to show what the Republic will be like. This new bitch is just a fucking weirdo who exists to be a feminist icon and a representation of modern ideas, which are all terrible considering she gets herself and a lot of others killed for no reason.




he hasn't even made his death note video yet. by the time he gets to the last jedi ep 9 will be out.



Honestly, when he made his Blade Runner vid, I was hoping this would be a sign of more regular videos what with his new "semi" strategy.



Literally who?



A YouTuber who doesn't upload nearly often enough.

Check out his review of TFA, Mad Max and - if you can find it online - GET OUT.


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Be not a nigger.



>his name is actually E;R

Pardon me, I just assumed that was an abbreviation when I saw it.



That's actually his own forced meme.




if they didn't delete his backup channel, it's probably on dailymotion or somewhere.


So I went and watched the last Jedi today. I have never been more dissapointed in a movie in my life. I should've listened. The out of place attempts at humor, The trashing of the characters themselves, the terrible deaths and bullshit recoveries, and almost beautiful moments absolutely destroyed. How in the hell they will salvage this bullshit is beyond me. It would take a literary and artistic genius to recover something even somewhat coherent from this trash heap. Never again shall I give a penny to Disney for this travesty that have the gall to call a film.



Why sage friendo? Its a common opinion now and most here feel the same.



Frankly you should have realized all of this when TFA came out, but better late than never I guess


Here's a nice little paragraph that I found out of Jedi Council:

>1. KK told us Rey was our girl Luke Skywalker. This movie is not a hero journey for Rey. She isn't fighting the good fight against evil. She's a battered wife of a villain she has no reason to give a crap about. Even in her big moment at the end where she turns him down, she takes his insult without retort and cries and angsts about his bad choice. It's the most pathetically disappointing characterization I've ever seen. Rey was supposed to be the hero that little girls dressing up like her on Halloween could look up to. I really hope that they're not looking up to this because it was the absolute wrong message. The movie ends almost with a tone of sadness that Rey failed to fix Kylo. It's just sickening;

If we assume that the writer is another liberal, then it tells us this: the movie utterly fails as the propaganda is meant to be.


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>the movie utterly fails as the propaganda is meant to be.

So its failing in every respect? Fuck, I can't wait for Solo to come out now. It'll be the bomb of the century!


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And the fact that one of its main pitches is pic-related, how can it possibly not bomb?

<First female droid

Are these fuckers serious? Even if they're movie-only fags, TC-14 had female programming in TPM and there was that waitress droid in AotC, and even their precious TFA had that ugly female droid with a belly button (for whatever reason).


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But those were all made to satisfy the male gaze. The new Disney™ creation is the first stronk womyn droidx in history ever.



Its at 90% now with critics.



I know you're jesting, but TC-14 was clearly androgynous in appearance.


I got a few simple questions for you, troopers. was TLJ entertaining for you? do you think it matters if it was just entertaining or not?



I'm pretty he just posted a betty bot as an example. TC-14 though had female programming.


That salt planet looked interesting I guess. That seemed entertaining. Everything else was just boring or dragged on. Why ask?



No. The first Disney™ Star Wars would have almost been an OK post current year action movie on its own. (You know, if it did not have the SW label and if the nigger and the spic ended up as a gay couple.) The second one had some moments that almost felt like Star Wars. The Third one was just pure shit with no redeemable qualities whatsoever. My live is worse for having watched it.



>The Third one

Counting RO I assume? Seriously, whose bright idea was it to release an SW movie every year?



No. It held my interest, but I thought every action taken was unsatisfying, and at the end of it I determined I cared about nothing I saw except that Luke was poorly done and out of character.



my dad and I had a conversation about TLJ and the 50% rating. he thought it had it's moments, but he was entertained, and "that was all that matters".

I did find the majority of the movie entertaining, the force-connection-bullshit between kylo and Rey was boring and obnoxious. some parts of the movie that broke my suspension of disbelief too, mostly leia poppins and the magical logistics of the first order despite losing a major base and two capital ships. I seriously thought admiral purple-hair was a bad-guy-in-disguise for how much of a bitch she was to Poe, hell, her sacrifice is literally the only thing that made me realize she was even on the side of the good guys.



no. tfa was honestly entertaining, even though i dislike it. tlj was just a slap to the face at all possible moments, and the action was underwhelming as fuck. it was like edging and deciding to blue ball yourself as opposed to finally unleashing that huge load you built up.




I greatly disliked TFA, but I will say that it was far more entertaining than TLJ and something many of my peers enjoyed, even the ones who hated it found it entertaining as a way to just waste time with friends. TLJ just left everyone I knew who circlejerked about TFA feeling disappointed and unamused.



It's at 49% now

We're doing it, we're gonna make it the lowest rated Star Wars movie. I've never been happier to see Disney suffer.



I was too busy being baffled by everything I was seeing to be entertained by it. Things like the stupidly impractical bombers and walrus boobs were mistakes that Rian Johnson didn't need to make but for some reason he chose to make them anyway. The protagonists are also really unpleasant to each other throughout the film which is jarring for a Star Wars movie.

There were a few things that made me laugh I guess, like the evil First Order ironing board and that little drunk cgi alien stuffing coins in the astromech like a slot machine.



Hans Hermann-Hoppe trips confirm. It's been the lowest rated since we went below 56%, but let's see just how far down it will go.



Only thing that would make this better is if the prequels started rising in the ratings just to screw with RLM.



Reviews that go something like this:

"I didn't like the prequels but after seeing what disney did to Star Wars, I decided to re-watched the PT. I found them to be masterpieces in comparison, delightful,original, spectacular, and full of likeable and memorable characters.

The PT has some flaws but they pale inn comparison to the loathsome & unoriginal movies disney has put out.

PT: 7/10"


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>Hans Hermann-Hoppe trips

What? Never heard of it.


From a moderator of Jedi Council (Bazinga'd, as if he wasn't cancer enough) also, this gem:

>Quatum- You have until I get back to my computer, an opportunity to explain to me in a PM why I should not ban you for an extended period for raising the well-denounced misogynistic “ Mary Sue” argument.

He could have phrased it any number of ways, but he chose this one.



H is the 8th letter of the alphabet

please go back to the site you came from



I told you all Jedi Council was fucked beyond measure.


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The Meme Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.



I can't find it, and vid.me has shut down so the backup channel is gone. One problem with naming yourself something short and edgy is that it becomes impossible to search.


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lucky you i found a mirror, and i downloaded it just in case this one goes down as well.


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Story Time!


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nice. tbh we should have story time threads here.



Shows the lack of care for fans That Lore Committee Filoni is on, the same Disney did with ep7 it being a fan film.



TFA was almost named shadow of the empire

let that sink in



Honestly, Filoni/Rebels has gotten lazy lately. Even EA's Battlefront does a better job of keeping consistency outside of the moronic story campaign, even featuring really obscure creatures and plants mentioned in barely known essential guides from the 90s. I could swear I even heard some sobbing in the distant mountains for a split sec on EA/Dice's Endor. Meanwhile Rebels just seems to take shit from concept art that was already included in the old canon in some form.



>needing other people to tell you what you think

>ecelab cancer

no you GET OUT



Its really worrying how so many anons are shilling for e-celebs. /tv/ in its eternal retardation does it often, but every other board is doing it now. /pol/ has its countless share of unbearable hasbeens who they want stop shilling all over the place with dank memes and "kinos about" threads. Then /v/ with its constant Sargon and reddit-celeb circlejerking and cringy fanart, and /leftypol/ with its fair share of rainbow-haired weirdos, etc etc, and now us. Can't people just write down their own thoughts? Although then again, this makes it feel like /sw/ is becoming more relevant, so that's good… I think.



Thanks fam.

Honestly, that was just confusing. Movie is a convoluted and contrived mess, and the "message" just as much if not more so. If it's criticizing black-fetishist leftist elite, why is the white family dressed up with "conservative" stereotypes? Most normies that see an old-money, out of touch family living in the middle of nowhere will immediately think >muh Rethuglican 1%.



>Can't people just write down their own thoughts?

Echo chambers have a certain universal appeal. A lot certainly not all e-celebs are able to regurgitate the opinions of their viewers in a more poignant and humorous way than they ever could on their own, which adds to the appeal.



>Can't people just write down their own thoughts

If they have any, sure.



>Echo chambers have a certain universal appeal.

Let me just point out that there’s no point talking to people too different from you.



>too different

Doesn't even some difference destroy an echo chamber (if they don't REEE the intruder out themselves)?




Poe's Law, everyone.


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>everything about Solo screams disaster

>outright fired important people

>doubled budget reshooting

>salvage artist put on it

>TLJ already driving people away

I can't wait for it to bomb horribly.


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Not all. But the leadership certainly is.

In other news:



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(Fun fact: average chinese hate blacks)

"Gee I wonder why so much people in China dont liked my movie…" -Disney



They also hate Vietnamese, who they recognize as separate.

Back to the failed propaganda angle…


>The problem is that while The Last Jedi is being branded as the most feminist Star Wars film to date, its “feminism” seems like a cheap marketing ploy to appeal to a wiser audience and downplays some of the key problems within the film itself: it’s built on a foundation of sexism, misogyny, and racism. In other words, if you’re anything other than a white male, this film isn’t made for you.

>Despite these obvious problems, the most glaring ones still remain in the fact that Star Wars is a film that claims to market itself to the people it exploits and ultimately rejects. It’s no wonder that merchandise and ticket sales have dropped when the movie is back to focusing on a white male lead, like so many other before it. Kylo Ren tells Rey that you have no part in this story, that she doesn’t belong – something that minorities, women, and the LGBTQ+ community have been hearing their whole lives.



True, but I bet they're smart enough to see the bigger picture that hollywood wants to inflict that on their continent in general.


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This. Disney, Rian, JJ and Kennedy truly fucked up big time with this. Especially JJ with his:


All the while not realizing most of China knows a vietnamese dink when they see one and despise them intensely.




>The draconian decline in screenings might actually help boost The Last Jedi's per-screen averages, as theater supply falls below the demand of moviegoers who still want to see the Star Wars sequel.

The damage control is real.



>movie is good for its feminism but the reason its actually failing is because it was made by evil cis-het male white racists!

>It doesn't have nearly enough diversity!

Are these people insane?



>Star Wars is only failing in China because Chinese don't know what star wars is guys!

>They just want a movie that's a representation of their diverse culture!

>it has nothing to do with politics, the movie's shitty writing or Disney's horrible way of handling the franchise!



>Are these people insane?

Yes. Though I can kind of understand the logic of it. Star Wars: The Last Jedi is the most feminist Star Wars movie to date, but also the most universally reviled. In the writer's mind, feminism can't be the problem, so clearly the film must actually be a secret tool of patriarchal oppression that's carefully calculated to keep women and non-white people everywhere from ever liking Star Wars.

Add in a big helping of the author being a gullible idiot who falls for every piece of propaganda marketing thrown his way, most of his articles on that site are shilling for upcoming Star Wars funko pop releases, along with an article where he seriously asserts that Rian Johnson stole the plot of The Last Jedi from some teenage girl's ReyxKylo fanfic and you can start to see how the madness took root in his mind to begin with.



>Doesn't even some difference destroy an echo chamber (if they don't REEE the intruder out themselves)?

There’s nothing wrong with chasing someone out. It simply means the people there feel very strongly and have no interest talking to a contrarian. The lolberg idea that you need to have spirited debate in every forum is a form of cuckoldry. Sometimes people want to seek out likeminded individuals to build a community, share information, and plan activities.

SJWs like to decry ‘Echo chambers’ because it’s how they infiltrate communities. Once they are in, they as a matter of course ban ‘tasteless’ or ‘outdated’ commentary.


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How is that a lolberg idea (unless you mean those LP cucks)?




No, I don't think anybody has yet found a way to "denounce" the idea that a character is really fucking badly written


>one white guy exists in the movie


they really do want us all dead, don't they



Disney adds token asians and it STILL fails in China…



That strategy has always been patronizing and stupid. If I'm an Indian guy I see Indian people on TV, in magazines, in films, on the street, at the store, and everywhere else in my daily life from sunrise to sunset. Why would adding some literal who Punjabi to be a secondary figure of importance who ultimately does nothing valuable to the plot motivate me to see an American movie if I weren't interested in the first place? I'm not going to watch some period drama set in 1930s China that was filmed in Shanghai just because they hire a white American actor to be comic relief or carry the plot device for a few scenes. They've completely lost touch with how flesh and blood people think and act to the point where it's not surprising that they'd pay for excuses to be published enabling them to keep making the same mistakes expecting something different. They're so incapable of criticizing their own visions that they're a hair's breadth away from verbatim stating, "No, no. Surely it is the marketplace that's wrong."



Most lolbergs treat freedom of speech as a sacred right and will engage in protecting the speech of others to the absurd. This would be well and good if people truly practiced it, but it only ever goes one way, where we must be tolerant of batshit crazy SJWs and goons.



The fact that even straight male villains now triggers them too, its safe to say that we are all fucked.


Yes, China is clearly in the wrong here for not appreciating Disney's cheap attempt at pandering to them yet somehow failing to understand how their target thinks. Hell, SW was a popular worldwide phenomenon, even more so in non-white countries despite its white main cast accompanied by three non-humans. Disney can't comprehend that people outside of northern europe and california don't give two shits about politics and diversity. They want good well-written entertainment and likeable well-developed characters they can admire and look up to with stories that offer an almost real adventure.



We really need more storytime threads.



It's all the more absurd when you consider all of the times that George Lucas spoke of how he considered Star Wars to be the universal heroic myth. He believed it succeeded because he sincerely and earnestly thought he'd captured something that in a broadly egalitarian view transcends race, geography, culture, and time. It's a space opera, yeah, but its DNA is supposedly something more primal and ancestral than any of our Current Year means of dividing and categorizing different humans.

Apparently his hand-picked successor and her cronies have no faith in this achievement and think it's better to discard everyone who got it in favor of people who will never understand and never want to understand. Even if Lucasfilm continues to turn a relative blind eye to villain comics and novels by allowing old timers like Zahn to write what they want, the eventual need to comport and comply with an increasingly pozzed film and cartoon canon will be insurmountable.

Just burn it. There's nothing we don't already know.


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>freedom of speech as a sacred right and will engage in protecting the speech of others to the absurd

M8, those are almost exclusively "SJWs are the real racists" liberal normies that say that. Occasionally one will call himself a left-libertarian because he likes to smoke pot.


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5:30 "China criticizes The Last Jedi for insulting the audiences' IQ"



I don't like discussing politics and I really don't want this conversation getting derailed, but I will say that left libertarians are by far the most pretentious political faction with an unparalleled superiority complex. While I've seen dems and a few reps lose their shit over recent political events, left-lolberts are the only ones I genuinely find appalling since they seem to be the most deceitful in terms of how they're handling shit. Always pretending they're true neutrals and taking the smug "intellectual" stance when really you can smell their bullshit a mile away, yet newfags will fall for their shit every time thinking they're the true neutrals who want what's best for everyone. Now let's try to not stray too far from the topic.


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>World Class Bullshitters

Not bad. But I'm bothered by the fact that while they initially criticized mindless nostalgia mutilation pandering like Disney did with Star Wars, they still went around and praised Ready Player One for the exact same bullshit which is nothing but mindless nostalgia and IP abuse. But I guess I'll have to live with that since they're the only e-celebs who don't hold anything back when it comes to SW, Hollywood corruption and capeshit.


I could've sworn it was at 48% last night.



it wont tho, you very much know that nuEU will continue to exist till people get tired of this crap



I agree completely, "left" "libertarians" can suck a polyamorous, STD-ridden cock. Just got triggered a bit because most lolberts aren't that. But you are right, let's try not to stray too far from the subject at hand.


The ratings show that people are getting tired. There are still going to be a sizable number of normies that watch it because "OMG Ster Wers," but the cracks are beginning to show.



I've never liked blending politics with SW either since it invariably leads to singularity cringing, but it's kind of difficult to avoid it now that official SW media is trying to syringe-feed unwanted politics to everybody still paying attention to it.



Right-libertarians are specifically who I was thinking of. The kind of people who see inner cities being turned into Mordor and think the problem can be fixed by lowering taxes and school choice. The willfully ignorant who insist there are no racial differences. They see the source of all problems as government and the solution is limiting government. They cannot (and didn’t) address the shitting up of culture because they view it as not the place of politics. They cannot address racial issues. All they can do is whine about taxation and suck off every megacorp that turns around and shits out anti-white garbage.


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>that strawman

3/10, made me reply. Assuming this isn't a bad troll, check out Hans-Hermann Hoppe and Walter Block for a better perspective on what "right' libertarianism is, and how it can deal with the issues you bring up.



This. One of the reasons I loved SW so much was the lack of political commentary and irl social bs put into it, the closest being some vegan shit and animals rights shit. Now because of Disney, its now sadly tied to all the political shit.


>he's serious

Some advanced retardation right here.



Reminder that prior to the RLM prequel review, The Phantom Menace had a 57% critic rating and a 62% audience rating, yet when the video started trending in 2013-2014 with the announcement of TFA, the audience rating suddenly gained over a million reviews and the score went down to 60% (and the critic rating went down to 56%) and then 59% (and 55%) by the time TLJ's first trailer came out and RLM's video gained over 8mil views.


TPM ain't perfect, but it definitely doesn't deserve to be rotten simply because RLM and Disney told them it has to be hated and despised.



The thing that I hate about the RLM videos isn't that they lambasted the prequels. Lots of people thought they were shit and ruined muh childhood. What I can't stand is how intellectually lazy it enables normies to be. Nobody feels like they need to articulate or explain why they think the prequels are a cinematic sin against God. All they do is point you to watch the RLM reviews. Mr. Plinkett does all of their thinking for them. It's offered as an excuse not to argue or show their thinking. The prequels are objectively bad movies and RLM dutifully explains why. What burns my ass worse is how now if you try something like linking the 108 page rebuttal to the Plinkett reviews the same people go, "LOL autism" because apparently you're allowed to make hours of YouTube commentary savaging something as shit and have it be quality entertainment but defending something is for gay ass nerd bois.




>muh right libertarians

I was in on all that stupid crap myself once. When you kids grow up, you’ll realize that the only way to achieve peace is to maintain a government for your people’s best interest, not to go off in the woods and pretend you are some fucking frontiersman.

Anything libertarian has been subverted by Banking Clan. The only ideology which can’t be subverted by them is banned.



To be fair the rebuttal has its own flaws. He should have left out his butthurt about rape jokes and Plinkett as a character, and kept it entirely about the actual criticisms. I thought he was too quick to fall back on "it's a movie" as an excuse, and used it in the sense of "it doesn't have to make sense or be realistic" instead of the more valid use of "concessions have to be made to make things work". I also think he was too generous to the lightsaber fights, and that RLM was mostly right to consider them over-choreographed spectacles without enough emotion showing through.



That's a valid opinion, but the people I'm talking about don't even read it far enough to have that argument. They just roll their eyes at the idea that some GEEK would write a long defense of a Star Wars prequel while its perfectly acceptable for a bunch of middle-aged schlubs with beer guts to record hours of bitching. It's the double-standard that pisses me off.



Yeah, that fucking came out of nowhere when I heard it. Ready Player One is the epitome of shallow nostalgia pandering complete with SJW propaganda and a complete and utter lack of substance.

>I want to see the Delorean covered in Ghost Busters memorabilia driving into a city and blowing shit up! I want to see that!


It's worse than that, normies don't even think they have to watch the prequels anymore to think they're shit because of muh RLM. I like their shit, and the Plinkett reviews are fun watches, but I've always known they weren't representative of the actual qualities of the films. I'm seeing a lot of prequel love lately though, because TLJ sucked so hard people went back and realized how much worse it could get.



>right libertarian


Libertarianism is pretty retarded as a whole and is basically the party for anarcho capitalists who wish they could be anarcho commies. Now enough with the political derailment.



>I'm seeing a lot of prequel love lately though

I don't like this attitude. It comes across like people who abandoned a broken raft adrift in the middle of the sea, only to climb up on a ship that passed by, only for that ship to sink, so they swim back to the raft and talk about how much they appreciate the raft. The raft is still broken and adrift, and the people on it are still doomed.

Here's my summary of why the prequels are bad films without Red Plebbit Memeia to do my thinking for me. Some of the best stories are the ones that are never told. I will explain this in a bit, but first understand that stories often have small untold elements to them. When done poorly, they become plot holes that hurt the film, but when done well they become mysteries to be considered outside the main story. Star Wars has several of these: Who is Boba Fett? How did Anakin become Vader? What were the Clone Wars about? How did Solo meet Chewie? One of my favorite one of these mysteries is from the film Back to the Future.

The mystery is "How did Doc and Marty meet?" Looking at this mystery, I have come up with my own answer in my head. More importantly I have realized that while I am satisfied with the answer I came up with, and think it is a perfectly reasonable concept, Bob Gale might have his own answer to the mystery, and that answer will almost inevitably be shit. Because Bob Gale has not given an official explanation, I can sleep soundly at night knowing that what I believed happened is as good an answer as needed, or I can discuss it with other fans in order to challenge its strengths and weaknesses. If Bob Gale were to make an official declaration on the story, it would burn the opportunity to speculate with others, and imagine for ourselves the answers. In this way, the mystery becomes an untold story that has its own satisfaction to it.

This is the problem with the prequel trilogy. Instead of allowing the infinite possibilities of our own imaginations to fill in the mysteries presented within the films, he provided his own answers. All of these answers are inevitably inferior to the speculations that others could provide. What makes it worse however, is that the entire prequel trilogy is placed on a Procrustean Bed and is tortured to fit Anakin's fall to become Darth Vader. Many of the faults of the prequel trilogy fall casualty to these two overarching problems.

Because of how mangled the storyline of the prequels turned out, I initially looked forward to TFA. Not because I wanted a return to form, but a significant departure from the previous films. I wanted a different movie that didn't tie itself to the others. When I saw the teaser trailer for TFA my first thoughts were, "this doesn't look much like Star Wars - good, finally it's got some fresh blood behind it". Then the film came out and well, now we're here with this mess.



You can dislike it all you like, but it's still preferable for the Prequels to have both merits and failures weighed fairly instead of what Disney wants.



>merits and failures weighed fairly instead of what Disney wants.

But is it? What significant merits do the prequels actually possess that have been overlooked? "It didn't propagandize me with CY+2 politics" does not make for a worthy merit of consideration, considering you can get the benefit of the same merit by staring at a blank white wall.



Nobody's saying the raft is a luxury ship. It still beaten and flawed, but everyone would rather sink with the SS Disney just because other people told them not to use the raft. The raft should never be treated as a luxury vessel, but it shouldn't be completely dismissed and treated like some useless piece of rotting driftwood when it at least did its job for the most part and everyone was allowed on it, while on the SS Disney, not everyone is allowed and no care or maintenance of any kind is put into it, simply looking pretty and likeable for the sake of tricking you out of your money because it had pretty aesthetics.



The prequels gave us some more worldbuilding. Despite the normie consensus, I actually liked watching interstellar politics, it gave a nice view of what the Republic was. There's also Sheev. Making Palpatine/Sidious a political mastermind playing both sides of a war against one another was a good move.



I can't say I hated it. I guess my issue is that to say the films were misjudged I expect something strong in the film that was really overlooked. The world building argument comes off as weak because any film set in the Star Wars universe will by the needs of the story end up giving the audience more world building. I hope that didn't come off as dismissive.


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>I hope that didn't come off as dismissive.

Not at all. The prequels have more than a few flaws, I was just pointing out a few things that kept them from being completely irredeemable. And by world-building, I meant good world-building, because as you said, any new content is technically world-building Except Disney manages to break even that rule by decanonizing all the good shit so they can bring out the giant pokeball.. I know that's subjective, but I thought the setting makes sense: The Old Republic, a once mighty civilization that stood for millennia, is being eaten from within by rot and corruption. The cracks begin to show as systems try to secede from it. The Jedi are numerous and known, but like the Republic they serve they've become cold and detached from the needs of the people. A Sith Lord in the shadows sees the discord, and takes advantage of it, nudging a faction here, on there, priming the galaxy to not just accept his rule but welcome it. In my opinion, this is the perfect (or at least a very good) setup to prequels for the original trilogy. You get to see what the Republic was, the Jedi in all their glory, and a plausible reason for why both fell from grace. The prequels had quite a few problems, but most of those had to do with characters (Jar Jar, on the softer side young Anakin), dialogue/acting ("I don't like sand," etc), and in some cases visual effects (also subjective. I never saw an issue with the CGI but I can see what people say about the over-choreographed lightsaber duels). The setting was fine. The plot was fine. The main characters were fine in premise, the flaws were in execution. What this all means, to me anyways, is that a "good" version of the prequels would still have the same basic story, around mostly the same characters. And because of that, you can still base good stories around the setting and characters introduced in the prequels. The films were still a net positive to the franchise.

In contrast, the new films have crap worldbuilding. Even ignoring the thousands of pages of good material they displaced by the mere virtue of their existence. What's the "new" setting? The Imperial Remnant claws its way back from the brink of defeat. Somehow with more manpower, more superweapons, and more technology. The New Republic downsized its military because reasons, so they need to form a guerrilla group called the Resistance to fight them. But they're devastated when the Imperial superweapon destorys not one but several planets all at once, because MORE, MORE MORE! If we make everything BIGGER it MUST be better, right? The "new" worldbuilding contributes nothing, and in fact serves to make a mockery of the OT, because now the hard work and sacrifice of the Rebellion means nothing. There are no new themes or factions to explore. No possibilities open up that couldn't have just been explored in the pre-Yavin empire. The characters are all flawed from the start, and even the best writing, acting, and casting could not save the premises of those characters from being shit. The plot relies on extensive coincidences to move along, and in the process either destroys established lore or makes the protagonist one big Mary Sue. Same difference really. The Nu-trilogy is a net negative on the franchise. Even discounting all of the good EU content that died in its birth. Because, not only does it fail to give us a good setting, or good characters to expand upon, it forces all future writers to work around this festering corpse that's collapsed over the timeline.

I realize now that I've gone on a bit of a rant, and that we've all heard this shit before. Fuck it, I don't care. You can't say Disney is a steaming pile of shit often enough.


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>the giant pokeball

pic related

>The Old Republic, a once mighty civilization that stood for millennia, is being eaten from within by rot and corruption.

>The Jedi are numerous and known, but like the Republic they serve they've become cold and detached from the needs of the people.

I think the reason why I'm not sure whether I like this aspect of the films or not is that I'm not really sure if it is or isn't intentional. If the Jedi and the Senate are supposed to be corrupt, then it makes a lot of sense and I have been overlooking something important. I'm not sure if that was what Lucas had in mind when he wrote it, or if that was an unintended result.



>I'm not sure if that was what Lucas had in mind when he wrote it, or if that was an unintended result.

Well, it was explicitly stated a few times in TPM that the Senate were too corrupt to do anything useful to solve the Naboo crisis. And although he claimed to be going for a timeless classic, Lucas did allude to history and mythology in his works more than once; Anakin's parallels with Jesus, the Republic/Empire connection to Rome, and so on. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that he meant for audiences to reach that conclusion. Even if he didn't mean that, and it was just a fluke, it doesn't matter because it's a fluke we've all accepted. The Clone Wars show touches on the corruption of the Senate a few times, as do many of the EU novels. Luke's New Jedi Order goes out of its way to avoid the pitfalls that made the old Order so detached. Even if Lucas didn't mean for any of this to happen (and I don't think that's the case), it happened, and it's had a positive impact on the greater canon.



Alright anon, you've convinced me. I wasn't aware that other writers canonized the corruption of the senate, but it helps clear up things. I don't know if it is just me, but I feel like certain aspects of Star Wars get foggy around the prequels.



> I don't know if it is just me, but I feel like certain aspects of Star Wars get foggy around the prequels.

Honestly, with something as big as Star Wars I think that's inevitable. Everyone's bound to miss something at least once.


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>the prequels are objectively bad movies and RLM dutifully explains why.



>The mystery is "How did Doc and Marty meet?"

I’m pretty sure Marty just answered an ad in the paper to be an assistant part-time while he was in high school.



>Because, not only does it fail to give us a good setting, or good characters to expand upon, it forces all future writers to work around this festering corpse that's collapsed over the timeline.

I suspect we’ll see a ‘Legends’ movie be made, particularly if Solo bombs and IX does badly.


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>says the Skakoan


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There's also a pokeball in this junior novel. Is Disney implying that they wanna buy Pokemon? They even got that shit on Disney Channel now…



Is the guy on the left an ayy?



That's a thermal detonator, you fucking goon.


A Dresselian, if I'm not mistaken.


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I don't recall thermal detonators being half red and half white.



>Leia is some kind of action hero operative, not a politician who can fight her way out of a problem.



You need to get your eyes checked, because I see no red there.



That's his point, the thermal detonator he posted has no red, but the one in >>7526 does.



What with all the things Disney wants to buy, I can easily see Shitendo being in their sights. They'll start off small, asking for Nintendo-themed rides at Disney land, followed by some merch production, then they gain the western distribution rights and become the new NoA.



No, you dumb shit. There's no red on that orb on that book cover either. Your eyes are playing tricks on you.


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There has been an awakening. Do you feel it?


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I'll take your 2 egg lonely cat lady and raise you a lesbian feminist sperg who is completely falling apart over TLJ, it might just break her entire worldview by the next film.


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>no red on the book cover

There is. It's the little light on the thermal detonator and the reflection of the nu-alien's hand. Not saying its red, but there's definitely a little red on there from the little light and the reflection of the hand.


I'm feeling it. I don't know much about the guy whose video I posted, but it played right after WCB.


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>it might just break her entire worldview by the next film.



I hope Phasma and Nu-Wars gets more hate after the bullshit virtue signalling her character inspired against sexy animu armors. http://www.funnyjunk.com/Star+wars+is+cool/funny-pictures/5668288


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Oh, I'm feeling something, all right. IMPERIAL MILKERS


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Goodness. She might even earn shitlord points by that time.


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Is it safe to say that maybe… just maybe… there is… dare I say… hope?



Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.


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We need a new flag.


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Damn it Disney




shit, i'd do either one of them in a heartbeat. the polack is definitely superior, but i'd take the closet dyke for like a rainy sunday y'know.



and i should add on, i mean their thoughts in addition to their physical looks. like the first one is a total "fuck me anon" type, but the second's personality gets me rock hard.



I’m into dyke radfem for some reason. Like you give them the D and they turn into a total bimbo. Why is there no porn of that?


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>tfw no porn ever

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