/crt/ Anonymous 10/05/14 (Sun) 07:06:17 No. 403
This thread is for the civil discussion of CRT displays (TVs and monitors) as used for retro video games and systems allowed by the board rules in the current sticky. Subtopics *directly* related to this main topic are welcome.
Anonymous 10/05/14 (Sun) 23:42:44 No. 421
I wanna fuck this entire setup.
Anonymous 10/06/14 (Mon) 03:04:42 No. 427
>>421 That screen is laughably small though.
Anonymous 10/06/14 (Mon) 03:25:42 No. 430
>>427 I like it! It's cozy.
Anonymous 10/06/14 (Mon) 03:38:34 No. 431
We already have a CRT thread though?
https://8chan.co/vr/res/129.html
Anonymous 10/06/14 (Mon) 05:09:35 No. 432
>>431 Fuck, I knew it was there somewhere. Spoilered image is kind of a shitty way to start a thread, however.
Anonymous 10/06/14 (Mon) 08:28:33 No. 439
>>432 yeah, it's pretty easy to miss…spoiler image and spoiler op
Anonymous 10/09/14 (Thu) 22:37:37 No. 480
>>431 Which idiot made it? and why did they chose to hide it behind spoilers? Nobody reads spoilers or clicks on spoiler images.
Anonymous 10/10/14 (Fri) 05:37:48 No. 484
/vr/, halp. I just bought a Playstation a few days ago from a used vidya store, and I've been itching to use it. I bought an old CRT from Goodwill for the authenticity, but when I hooked up the console I couldn't get a display. There's static, so the TV is clearly functional, and the A/V cables are clearly plugged in right, and I can see and hear the machine running, but no channel gives me the game display. I'm not even sure what kind of TV it is, but I know for a fact that the console works, because I played about fifteen minutes of one of my games on a different monitor.
Anonymous 10/10/14 (Fri) 10:48:57 No. 492
>>484 >but no channel gives me the game display. PS1 don't have RF connection, does it?
Anonymous 10/11/14 (Sat) 12:52:29 No. 501
I don't know where else to post this, but since it has to do with getting a nice picture from my retro games, I'll try in here.
Anonymous 10/11/14 (Sat) 20:49:14 No. 505
>>421 The correct way to set up retro consoles is that anything pre-Gen 6 gets hooked up to CRT. Anything Gen 6 and onward gets hooked up to an HDTV, because that's what they look better on. The one exception is for light gun games, since those won't work on an LCD and there are several worth playing in Gen 6, but as soon as you are done playing those you move them back to your HDTV.
Anonymous 10/13/14 (Mon) 20:21:24 No. 519
>>480 >Which idiot made it? That would be me
Because I'm an idiot, and was really just trying to see if anyone here would even be interested.
>>505 >Anything Gen 6 and onward gets hooked up to an HDTV, because that's what they look better on. That's full on opinion. Especially if you have a 480p+ capable CRT.
You certainly can't beat the visual quality of a Dreamcast displaying on a real nice PC CRT over VGA.
7th gen I'll give you, but there are caveats to that too.
Anonymous 10/14/14 (Tue) 07:18:28 No. 530
Have any of you guys heard about this?
http://www.hdretrovision.com/ It's a project by a couple of guys trying to make component cables for the Genesis and SNES.
Anonymous 10/15/14 (Wed) 22:44:10 No. 548
>>530 Couldn't see a price on the site.
Anonymous 10/15/14 (Wed) 23:02:56 No. 549
>>548 A member of the team "plugged" the cables on halfchan before. I believe he said that they wanted to keep them under $40 a pop. They talk about how much cheaper buying their cables will be when compared to a standalone transcoder when a transcoder and the SCART equivalent of the two cables they have planned would be the cheaper option of the two.
Anonymous 10/16/14 (Thu) 00:07:44 No. 551
>>549 >>530 Compo cables for systems that already output RGB? Huh. The only angle they have for that is if they make it much cheaper than available transcoders.
Anonymous 10/16/14 (Thu) 19:22:13 No. 560
>>492 It does in the UK at least, I have several ps1 RF cables.
To the guy who needs help, if it's RF: on most TVs you need to tune it to get the right frequency. I hope you have the remote.
For composite AV: You might need to switch the channel to AV mode, again I hope you have the remote!
Try using other ports on the TV if it has any. The advantage of SCART cables is that they automatically switch the TV to the right channel when you switch the console on. (for UK)
Anonymous 10/24/14 (Fri) 21:03:41 No. 619
Anonymous 10/27/14 (Mon) 09:59:33 No. 652
If those guys made a Saturn component cable I'd buy one. It's probably the only system i don't have running via rgb or component.
Anonymous 11/24/14 (Mon) 20:17:53 No. 801
Bumping
Anonymous 11/25/14 (Tue) 23:43:13 No. 804
Anonymous 01/16/15 (Fri) 03:44:16 No. 1190
A PVM I got a week ago. It's tiny as hell but it works for what I use it for.
Anonymous 01/16/15 (Fri) 03:48:42 No. 1191
Here's the 32X transcoded from RGB to component. Where is everyone anyway? Is /vr/ kill?
Anonymous 01/16/15 (Fri) 03:49:55 No. 1192
File: 1421380195401.jpg (Spoiler Image, 3.74 MB, 3264x2448, 4:3, Wii Component 480i.JPG )
Project M over component.
Anonymous 01/16/15 (Fri) 03:52:32 No. 1193
Finally my PC Engine over s-video.
Anonymous 01/21/15 (Wed) 20:41:05 No. 1232
>>1192 Does P:M look better/run THAT better through a CRT? I've got other games like f-zero and Pokemon stadium that i can run on my plasma and i'm wondering if its worth buying a CRT as well for non-HD titles
Anonymous 01/22/15 (Thu) 04:12:31 No. 1235
>>1232 If you play a lot of standard def games then yes it's definitely worth it.
Anonymous 01/23/15 (Fri) 17:13:30 No. 1246
>>1191 I used to post heavily on halfchan's /vr/, but with the recent fracturing of the community, plus bullshit in real life, I've not been doing much with video games other than getting irritated with them. If I'm in a bad mood, all I will do with classic games is fuck up, and that would negatively color my opinion of them.
Anonymous 01/23/15 (Fri) 18:43:05 No. 1249
Where would be the best types of places to try and hunt down a PVM type monitor?
Anonymous 01/24/15 (Sat) 09:27:49 No. 1255
>>1249 Probably e-waste dumps or video production studios. I'd check craigslist first though. If nothing shows up then I'd go on ebay and hunt one down there.
Anonymous 01/24/15 (Sat) 09:30:28 No. 1256
>>1232 In my personal opinion, yes. Now my PVM can only do 480i. But that doesn't seem like a problem as it looks amazing. I also own a HD TV that can handle 480p and the PVM just kicks its ass in quality. Less lag on the PVM too. Makes playing F-Zero GX much easier.
Anonymous 01/25/15 (Sun) 00:47:34 No. 1264
Oh look at that, a CRT thread.
Anonymous 01/25/15 (Sun) 03:45:49 No. 1267
>>1264 What inputs does it have?
Anonymous 01/25/15 (Sun) 22:54:49 No. 1276
>>1267 >>1267 Four sets of composite inputs, two sets of s-video inputs, two sets of component inputs, two RF in and one RF out, and an audio out.
Unfortunately no VGA, DVI, or RGB, but I wouldn't expect much more from a consumer CRT.
Anonymous 01/25/15 (Sun) 23:07:05 No. 1277
>>1276 Should also mention that as per Wikipedia, it's one of the highest end 480i FD-Trinitrons ever manufactured, with a 10-bit 3D ATSC comb filter and also 2-tuner PiP available.
Anonymous 01/26/15 (Mon) 03:49:28 No. 1279
>>1264 As long as it's not HD and doesn't have that pseudo "progressive" filtering that some of the late Sony models had then it'll be good.
Anonymous 01/26/15 (Mon) 23:51:58 No. 1285
>>1279 It's not. It's a true 480i Trinitron.
What's the pseudo "Progressive" filtering you mention? I notice scanlines during normal usage and all, is there something I should be keeping an eye out?
sage 01/28/15 (Wed) 21:13:11 No. 1294
>>1285 I had one a few years back, the buzzword for it was called DRC "Digital Reality Creation". It was some sort of half assed de-interlacing method and it took away the visible scalines. It really sucked with retro games :(
Anonymous 01/28/15 (Wed) 22:04:15 No. 1295
>>1294 >some sort of half assed de-interlacing method DRC is one of the best commercial deinterlacers I've ever used. It's not "pseudo" progressive, either. It deinterlaces a 480i signal so that it can be scanned at 540p or 1080i on an HDTV.
Anonymous 01/29/15 (Thu) 17:37:47 No. 1298
I have an early playstation with both the AV multiout port and RCA jacks for composite + audio.
Anonymous 01/30/15 (Fri) 00:04:02 No. 1300
>>1298 Yes, this will work.
sage 01/30/15 (Fri) 01:45:46 No. 1309
>>1295 On my SDTV the DRC system was still interlaced because you could still see all the classic interlacing artefacts. It just removed the visible scanlines or reduced them to the point where you can't see them. It did look great for 6th gen games and SD DVD's but for retro gaming it's awful.
Anonymous 01/30/15 (Fri) 01:53:38 No. 1310
>>1300 I have read that the RGB lines need a 220uF capacitor to look right. Does the component cable already have these capacitors or do I need make a custom job for them?
Anonymous 01/30/15 (Fri) 07:10:50 No. 1313
>>1309 >SDTV >DRC Link? I've only seen DRC used as an upscaler in HDTV models. There would be no point to having it in an SDTV. Are you sure you didn't have a progressive-scan EDTV?
sage 01/31/15 (Sat) 05:13:47 No. 1321
>>1313 >Are you sure you didn't have a progressive-scan EDTV? 100% positive. The model i had was KVEX29M39. Here's a link to the manual.
sage 01/31/15 (Sat) 05:14:09 No. 1322
Anonymous 01/31/15 (Sat) 09:47:51 No. 1324
>>1321 >>1322 That's a progressive-scan (31KHz) chassis.
sage 02/01/15 (Sun) 02:19:36 No. 1328
>>1324 It isn't. It's a 15khz standard definition tv. There is no reference to 31khz in that manual at all. This is where it confuses everybody - It does say there is a "progresive" display mode but it's not true progressive scan. That's what i meant by "pseudo progressive" All it did was stabilise the jittering image somewhat. It looked good for still images but once there was movement you can still see the actual interlacing artefacts. For eg when the image is scrolling you could see feathering or when sprites are flashing on and off quickly once per frame you could see more feathering and distortion.
I owned one in Australia until it died on me recently. It accepted nothing but standard definition 15khz signals. I used it with my NES, Master System, SNES, PS1, Dreamcast, Gamecube and PS2. Also with my laptop svideo tv output which pumps out nothing but 15khz 480i. No progressive scan images could be displayed on it. I even once tried it with a gamecube and a ps2 with games that have a prog scan option.
Anonymous 02/01/15 (Sun) 09:49:50 No. 1331
>>1328 It's got an internal upscaler. Check the horizontal deflection with a scope; it's 31KHz.
Anonymous 02/07/15 (Sat) 07:32:49 No. 1381
Here's an old pic of a Samsung SD TV that I had for a while, before it was replaced by my PVM.
Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 16:48:50 No. 1706
I'm in need of a new tv. I mainly play SNES and Gamecube games off homebrew on my wii. Any recommendations?
Anonymous 02/27/15 (Fri) 03:02:56 No. 1714
Why do CRTs just look so much nicer compared to HD TVs?
Anonymous 02/27/15 (Fri) 04:08:44 No. 1715
>>1714 It's the x-rays, soothing you into a relaxed state.
Anonymous 02/27/15 (Fri) 05:47:07 No. 1716
>>1381 Damnit, now I want to play After Burner
Anonymous 02/28/15 (Sat) 02:32:29 No. 1735
>>1706 If you don't care about light guns, I'd recommend the Pioneer 40" 4:3 Plasma. It's perfect for 240p (SNES), 480i (most PS2), and 480p (Wii).
If you want a CRT for the light gun functionality then try the Sony PVM, BVM, or NEC XM29.
I'm a noob. Learn more by lurking these:
http://retrorgb.com/rgbmonitors.html http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=43256 http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/
Anonymous 03/01/15 (Sun) 15:36:17 No. 1761
Getting a clean picture of large screens is hard.
Anonymous 03/01/15 (Sun) 15:55:28 No. 1762
>>1761 Full screen shots at least.
SNES Mini RGB on a Mitsubishi XC-3730c
Anonymous 03/01/15 (Sun) 23:09:42 No. 1768
>>1761 >>1762 Nice looking picture on that tube anon.
Anonymous 03/02/15 (Mon) 03:35:20 No. 1770
>>1761 Nice, Is that a shadow mask type?
Anonymous 03/02/15 (Mon) 05:53:02 No. 1772
>>1770 That is correct. 36 or so inches of shadow mask to be specific.
Anonymous 03/03/15 (Tue) 02:19:04 No. 1777
>>1715 I guess that's why I don't feel comfy with new TVs
Anonymous 03/05/15 (Thu) 01:09:41 No. 1802
>>1761 >>1762 How much did she cost?
Anonymous 03/05/15 (Thu) 01:42:38 No. 1805
>>1802 Absolutely Nothing. Not without problems though. It has a splotch of discoloration on the middle-left side of the screen that mostly affects reds and I don't have an external degaussing coil to try to get rid of it. My current solution to the problem, amusingly, is positioning an old boombox speaker off to the side of it. Doesn't get rid of it completely but it does make it unnoticeable at most times. I do need to get a coil at some point.
Tube itself has some scratches here and there, but for the most part they're small and not visible past ~3-4 feet away.
Only in the past two weeks have I actually seen decent quality video on it.
Anonymous 03/14/15 (Sat) 07:48:34 No. 1897
PC Engine RGB through a PVM.
Anonymous 03/15/15 (Sun) 15:36:17 No. 1905
Whatta qtBugHV over a shoddily put together VGA->DB15 cable with inserted scanlines.
Anonymous 03/15/15 (Sun) 15:38:23 No. 1906
>>1905 Gives a pretty convincingly 240p look for the most part.
Anonymous 03/25/15 (Wed) 09:46:48 No. 2004
Do you add some speakers to your CRT set up? Even when the CRT's speakers work fine?
Anonymous 03/25/15 (Wed) 23:50:33 No. 2006
>>2004 If you want to, sure why not.
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 20:29:17 No. 2083
I keep hearing nice things about S Video. Should I bother?
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 21:04:54 No. 2084
>>2083 If you don't have access to RGB or component then s-video is a very nice alternative. Highly recommended.
Anonymous 04/06/15 (Mon) 22:19:42 No. 2085
>>2083 It varies from tv to tv. It's definitely better than composite at the very least.
Anonymous 04/07/15 (Tue) 01:31:10 No. 2086
>Tfw your old CRT only has composite
Anonymous 04/07/15 (Tue) 09:09:48 No. 2087
>>2086 You should be able to find a nice little PVM for around fifty or sixty bucks. They're not too hard to come across.
Anonymous 04/09/15 (Thu) 09:30:06 No. 2103
Anonymous 04/27/15 (Mon) 19:03:08 No. 2252
>>2086
What consoles are you running on it? SNES, N64, and Playstation look just fine with composite.
Anonymous 04/28/15 (Tue) 08:59:09 No. 2262
>>2103
MORE ANGLED WEBMS WITH SCANLINES.
Anonymous 04/28/15 (Tue) 23:24:46 No. 2275
>>2087
You're better off with an actual TV with Component input. Broadcast monitors are way too sharp for retro games.
Anonymous 04/29/15 (Wed) 00:04:34 No. 2278
>>2269
>My nigga is here
aw yean
Anonymous 04/29/15 (Wed) 03:17:48 No. 2281
This one didn't come out as nice thanks to the beam shadow choosing to rear its ugly head. I still like it though.
Real bitch when you've got 2000+ good photos and you can't decide which of the fuckers you want to post.
>>2278
I'm actually the one who made the original, spoilered CRT Thread that didn't take off.
And I'm obviously still on old /vr/.
Anonymous 04/29/15 (Wed) 05:39:49 No. 2284
>>2266
Anon, you need to hold down before hitting the ground for a smooth landing, that thud makes you lose speed
Anonymous 04/30/15 (Thu) 11:08:38 No. 2298
Anonymous 04/30/15 (Thu) 14:20:58 No. 2300
Time for a dumb question: how do you know if a television is CRT?
Anonymous 04/30/15 (Thu) 14:34:13 No. 2302
>>403
Emulationfag here, i've not been graced with being born when this shit was popular, but i want to get into collecting retro game, and i was wondering: How much would shit cost? Let's say i had a budget of 400 Euros. Now, there's a ComicCon soon in my city (Naples), so i can expect to see a stand selling old shit, but i wanted to know about the usual Price Range of Retroshit and where i can find the best deals.
Anonymous 04/30/15 (Thu) 15:23:58 No. 2305
>>2300
You know it's a CRT if it has a phat ghetto booty and doesn't flinch when you knock your knuckle into its face a few times.
>>2302
You're not likely going to find someone selling CRTs at a convention.
Anonymous 04/30/15 (Thu) 18:29:17 No. 2308
>>2300
It is boxy and has a glass screen. If it is boxy and has a plastic screen, it is a rear-projector (garbage).
Anonymous 05/01/15 (Fri) 09:43:16 No. 2317
>>2305
>>2308
Thanks. I guess I have a tiny as fuck one then. I was going to throw it out but I'll hang onto it for now.
Anonymous 05/01/15 (Fri) 15:54:26 No. 2319
>>2284
I'll keep that in mind for next time I play.
Anonymous 05/02/15 (Sat) 04:58:55 No. 2323
>>2317
How tiny is tiny? If you mean one of those oldschool portable TVs, you might want to check on that. It might be an LCD.
Anonymous 05/02/15 (Sat) 05:00:45 No. 2324
Gimp's perspective tool is alright.
Anonymous 05/06/15 (Wed) 01:02:49 No. 2336
Anonymous 05/07/15 (Thu) 07:19:49 No. 2351
I really wish this was as flicker free in person as this video makes it seem.
Please excuse complete lack of ability to play, dealing with massive headache while angry over stuff not working correctly makes for a magical combination of shit.
Anonymous 05/23/15 (Sat) 20:29:05 No. 2483
I just picked up this PVM1353MD and im about to order some cords for it, but im not sure if I need a scart to bnc adaptor with a sync stripper or not. Im gonna be using it with a model 2 saturn, model 1 genesis, model 1 snes, and eventually my front loader nes once I mod it. Should I buy the adaptor with or without the sync stripper and will it cause problems with consoles that dont require it?
Anonymous 05/23/15 (Sat) 20:41:17 No. 2484
>>2483
1353MD doesn't need a sync stripper. It'll work fine with cvid, csync, or luma. Probably sync on green as well.
Anonymous 05/23/15 (Sat) 20:50:55 No. 2485
>>2484
So i can just pick up some euro scart cables for my consoles and a scart to bnc adaptor without the stripper and im good to go? Thanks for the reply btw.
Anonymous 05/23/15 (Sat) 20:59:15 No. 2486
>>2485
Correct.
It'll also take Component on either of its RGB inputs, so making use of 6th Gen consoles or emulators on the Wii would be as simple as 3 RCA to BNC adapters.
Anonymous 05/23/15 (Sat) 21:10:09 No. 2487
>>2486
Yeah I heard the Wii is actually great as an emulation console for PVMs, but I actually just sold it not too long ago. Would I be able to connect my composite saturn cables to the RCA to BNC adaptors and use them that way until I get my SCART cords and adapter? It'd be nice to stop using the shitty action crt 8" I'm using now. If so, Im gonna go run to radioshack before they close.
Anonymous 05/23/15 (Sat) 21:27:45 No. 2488
>>2487
I don't know if I'd say great, but it works well and is extremely simple to setup for it.
And the PVM will work just fine with composite with an adapter.
>Radioshack
Have fun paying out the ass. If I'm remembering correctly, they wanted something like $6 or 7 for a single damn adapter. You can get them for much much cheaper on amazon or ebay. Think the first ones I got from amazon were $3 for 6 and $4 on ebay for 5 RCA->BNC and 5 BNC->RCA.
If you're in a pinch and/or really need them, I guess RadioShack would work, but buying from them otherwise is just eh…
Anonymous 05/23/15 (Sat) 21:30:38 No. 2489
>>2488
Thanks alot for the help my nignog. Gonna pick up 3 of them(5 dollars each…) and return em once I get my SCART cords in the mail.
Anonymous 05/23/15 (Sat) 21:41:07 No. 2490
>>2489
Hope they don't go out of business before you can return them.
Anonymous 05/24/15 (Sun) 03:54:59 No. 2492
>>403
God damn I fucking love samsho 2
Anonymous 05/31/15 (Sun) 14:43:12 No. 2541
Anonymous 06/01/15 (Mon) 03:06:25 No. 2546
I got a free crt to play all my old systems on a few months back; It was 300 pounds but worth it. Yesterday I bought an original xbox to complete my 6th gen console collection. Now I discover that the component inputs on that tv are fucked up and I can't see my doom 3 in nice shiny graphics :(
Anonymous 06/01/15 (Mon) 03:15:51 No. 2547
>>2302
No, but you have been cursed by living in a time when retro collecting is at its peak. Nintendo fanatics will suck dick for a copy of melee. But, to answer you question; Find out prices by going on craigslist and ebay whenever you want to know how much a game goes for and ALWAYS make sure that something works before you buy off craigslist ( if it costs enough to be worth it). as for deals, stop by thrift stores frequently if you have any nearby and check out used game stores. Also, pawn shops sell ps2 and xbox games for dirt cheap but I doubt they'll have any good genesis or snes games. If you're really serious about collecting and don't have much money, don't go for nintendo. I'm collecting original xbox and ps1, and it's a lot less frustrating than nintendo consoles.
Anonymous 06/04/15 (Thu) 01:46:07 No. 2606
What companies make good crts that do 480p or more(I'd also like if they're easy to find)? I mostly play retro, but I'd like to use the component cables for my xbox and wii.
Anonymous 06/07/15 (Sun) 11:25:42 No. 2620
>>501
the scart cables from retrogamingcables are good, and have the correct kind of sync for my trinitron. You could probably build your own pretty easily though. Make sure the sync matches and maybe throw in some 75ohm resistors if your monitor is unterminated
Anonymous 06/12/15 (Fri) 20:27:04 No. 2668
What would happen if you took your emulator, disabled overscan and ALL shaders, then hooked your computer into your TV, set the resolution to exactly your emulator's resolution, and fullscreened the emulator (to center it up)?
Would it be absolute dog shit, or would it be the most "authentic" setup possible?
Anonymous 06/13/15 (Sat) 00:41:26 No. 2681
>>2668
If your pc is outputting the correct resolution and refresh rate it will look the same as the original console would.
Anonymous 06/13/15 (Sat) 02:38:26 No. 2685
Hey /vr/ where can I find an HDCRT?
Anonymous 06/13/15 (Sat) 03:17:27 No. 2687
>>2668
The inherent problem here is that PCs don't output standard television unless your video card supports TV-out. If it does, it does so in 480i probably via S-video. I've done this before, and it looks ok, but not amazing.
People who want an authentic looking emulator setup do that super wide shit with a tube PC monitor. It is cheating, but looks authentic.
Anonymous 06/13/15 (Sat) 19:46:24 No. 2711
Speaking of CRTs, why do some games look better on them in general?
I could be hallucinating but it seems like with some games on the Dreamcast like Jet Set Radio, they look smoother on CRT than the PC version.
Anonymous 06/13/15 (Sat) 23:36:00 No. 2718
>>2711
CRTs have better motion quality than LCDs. Look up "sample and hold".
Anonymous 06/14/15 (Sun) 04:17:49 No. 2721
>>2687
CRT Emudriver exists for this reason. It allows your pc to output a correct low resolution progressive image that matches retro consoles/arcade games so the output is identical.
>>2711
Better colours, higher contrast, no motion blur, proper black levels etc.
Anonymous 06/14/15 (Sun) 23:03:24 No. 2744
Playing an original copy, on an original machine, on a TV it was originally meant to be displayed on, for some people this is the only way to play retro. For me it is.
Anonymous 06/15/15 (Mon) 18:56:17 No. 2764
In order to get the real experience, you do need a CRT as far as I care.
Anonymous 06/17/15 (Wed) 23:58:39 No. 2783
Anyone know if the RGB BNC out on this PVM will be all right if that's plugged into an XCAPTURE-1? Will any kind of amplification be necessary?
Anonymous 06/17/15 (Wed) 23:59:51 No. 2784
>>2783
Sorry, forgot the other file
Anonymous 06/22/15 (Mon) 20:15:11 No. 2835
>>1279
All of that shit can be turned of with "game mode" in the menu, no?
>>1805
>free crt
>appears not to degauss
Either the thyristor in the degauss circuit has gone, or being a found shadow mask it was dumped on its ass and the shadow mask has warped making it permanent.
Anonymous 06/22/15 (Mon) 20:16:23 No. 2836
>>2004
Hell no, enjoy your funky colours. Speakers have to be shielded near a crt.
Anonymous 06/22/15 (Mon) 23:08:40 No. 2837
>>2835
It degausses, it's just wasn't strong enough to get rid of the discoloration.
I had a go at with a strong earth magnet mounted to a cordless drill and a soldering gun.
It managed to move the discoloration to the top, where it's much easier to place a speaker deal with the problem. It's also faded since doing that, so it's not really to big of a problem.
>a found shadow mask it was dumped on its ass and the shadow mask has warped making it permanent.
It wasn't found, I got it off of craigslist along with some rather odd conversations from the previous owner. He couldn't manage to get it to work despite claiming to have previously worked at IBM.
The monitor worked fine, the cheap ass BNC breakout cable he had bought didn't.
I will say I wouldn't be surprised if it was from rough handling, since the only people I had to help me move it aren't exactly the most careful of people. Then again, moving 200+lbs of CRT isn't the easiest thing to pull of either.
Anonymous 06/23/15 (Tue) 11:35:45 No. 2839
>>2836
Shielded speakers are a dime a dozen…
Anonymous 06/23/15 (Tue) 13:21:58 No. 2840
>>2839
Since the transition to flat panels they've been leaving off the shielding I've found. I use the centre in on my tele because even though my centre speaker is shielded it still fucks it up.
Anonymous 06/24/15 (Wed) 21:23:19 No. 2847
>>2835
>Either the thyristor in the degauss circuit has gone,
Is it safe to replace the thyristor in the degauss circuit?
Anonymous 06/25/15 (Thu) 20:45:37 No. 2858
Just got this monitor from a thrift shop, a ViewSonic G90f. I'm running it as a secondary on my main PC, and I want to use it for games as well as for secondary display. One thing I immediately notice is that the picture simply appears blurry. I'm running it at native res (1280x1024) but it looks blurry anyway. In particular, text that's in the center of the screen looks blurry. I have no idea why it is this way.
So far I've tried a few games out on it (Doom, Shenmue through my Dreamcast) and they look fantastic. Other stuff (especially with text) looks less than stellar. What do?
I understand there is something about phase and clock with CRTs that I can adjust? Can anyone here elaborate?
Anonymous 06/26/15 (Fri) 04:41:19 No. 2868
>>2858
pic related.
I've been working with the picture, and it's better but not great yet. I'm working on improving its picture with Dreamcast stuff right now. Shenmue looks good, but 2D is rough. Even though I'm using VGA on it, I feel like I'd be getting much better quality by doing composite on my TV (A CRT from 2006 that does 240p/480i/480p). Maybe because the monitor is 1280x1024 native res? It's most notable to me in Street Fighter Alpha 3, it just seems like the TV has a much better picture in general.
Anonymous 06/26/15 (Fri) 04:47:26 No. 2869
>>2868
CRT monitors have no native resolution.
Anonymous 06/26/15 (Fri) 05:28:12 No. 2870
>>2869
I guess I'm just misunderstanding. I looked at the games on my TV again and found the PC monitor was doing better, probably the difference between composite and VGA on Dreamcast.
I decided to go back to working on the monitor, work on configs and get it looking better. Thanks for the response.
Anonymous 06/26/15 (Fri) 05:42:22 No. 2871
>>2870
You may be able to improve the blurriness by adjusting focus/convergence if your monitor has a menu option for it. If it doesn't you could still open it up and adjust some potentiometers inside but I wouldn't recommend it because CRT monitors have very high voltages, even when turned off.
Anonymous 06/26/15 (Fri) 05:49:48 No. 2872
>>2871
Yeah, I'm familiar with that from back in my arcade days. I read plenty about the insanity it can cause.
The way I look at it, I got a free monitor that's pretty good. Eventually I could find a better one, and if I do, then I'll use that one instead. I'll naturally do some configuring of this one, but otherwise I guess I can do without a CRT for my PC.
Anonymous 07/11/15 (Sat) 06:38:22 No. 3076
>>2847
Yes but stay the fuck away from the flyback transformer and the anode cap. I claim no responsibility for your death. You should really read something safety related on the servicing of CRTs.
>>2858
I remember reading that blurriness in the centre of the tube is a sign that it's wearing out. Sorry I can't find the source again but I think it's from repairfaq.org
Here's one for you guys, I have a sony kvhr32 and it's doing blue streaks beside white text. Here: http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_monfaq9.html#MONFAQ_012 suggests that it's bad coupling capacitors in the video amplifier but the question is, where the fuck is the video amplifier on the damn thing? If anyone has a list of Sony ICs and what they are it would come in mighty handy.
Anonymous 07/14/15 (Tue) 19:07:34 No. 3119
I am using a crt as second screen / its a shit samsung monitor
IS there a way to connect it to my gamecube or sega mega drive ?
Anonymous 07/15/15 (Wed) 04:12:22 No. 3128
>>2837
>The monitor worked fine, the cheap ass BNC breakout cable he had bought didn't.
How much are they supposed to be? Where can they be found?
Anonymous 07/15/15 (Wed) 12:56:39 No. 3137
>>3128
How much are what supposed to be? The cable?
For PC usage, any standard VGA->5BNC cable will work; I think mine cost me $7 or something like that. Ebay, amazon, various electronics retailers possibly.
For consoles, I've got my SCART breakout cable and a little sync stripper box for the sync line. I got mine from someone on neo-geo, but you can find them pretty easily on ebay or retrogamingcables.co.uk.
And when I say his cable didn't work, I mean that Red on the BNC end was just left floating, and was connect to ground on the VGA end. Vertical Sync wasn't seemingly connected to anything on either end.
I need to get the stuff to mod my Gamecube cable soon; I really want to see what it looks like on this monitor. Gonna add a switch so I can go back and forth between YPbPr and RGBHV.
Been meaning to try hooking it with S-Video, but without 480p support, it'd be a bit of a waste.
Anonymous 07/15/15 (Wed) 18:15:36 No. 3142
You know those DVD player TVs? What kind of input does the signal from the DVD player go through? I was assuming it would either be RGB or component. If this is true, how hard would it be to RGB mod them?
Anonymous 07/16/15 (Thu) 00:26:35 No. 3144
>>3128
>>3137
Looking back at this, if you meant the monitor itself, it's really hard to give a price. It's not a very common monitor to find like the multitude of PVMs out there, and the closest thing comparable to it(aside from monitors from the same line) would be the larger NEC XM monitors; To be specific, the XM 37 Plus.
With these massive sets, their size and the people that are interested in/find them has a lot to do with what they end up going for. There was a smaller NEC XM that went for several hundred dollars on ebay some months back, but that was pretty highly circulated around various sites that would be interested in such a thing. Mine was on the local craigslist, wasn't nearly as well displayed(it was using a recycled picture from the internet) and to be honest wasn't in as nice of condition either.
Maybe at some point when I have a bit better equipment and feeling more confident, I'll try to do a cap replacement on it. That's a long way off though.
>>3142
While that would be rather nice, it wouldn't be surprising to find it just using composite internally for the sake of cheapness. Most people buying combination sets like that are looking for convenience, not quality. That isn't to say you might not find one wired up over a better connection internally, it's just not all that likely.
You have the think, even the TVs with integrated SNESs were wired up for composite internally, not RGB.
Anonymous 07/16/15 (Thu) 00:41:12 No. 3145
>>3144
>You have the think, even the TVs with integrated SNESs were wired up for composite internally, not RGB.
You see, some of the ones I have seen look WAY to clean to be composite, which is why I ask.
Anonymous 07/16/15 (Thu) 00:56:56 No. 3146
>>3145
It's not impossible, just not something I'd see to be all that likely.
You also have to take into consideration not only the very short cable run inside, possibly removing interference from the equation, but also that since that specific input is only ever going to see use from the DVD player/VCR/SNES or whatever, it could be configured specifically for it rather than an endless multitude of electronics.
Anonymous 07/16/15 (Thu) 01:06:32 No. 3147
>>3146
>but also that since that specific input is only ever going to see use from the DVD player/VCR/SNES or whatever, it could be configured specifically for it rather than an endless multitude of electronics.
That's why I was looking into it. I have done CRT maintainence before, but I'm not the smartest guy ever when it comes to electronics.
Anonymous 07/18/15 (Sat) 15:46:40 No. 3194
>>505
Correction. If it has a HDMI port, it gets hooked up with HDMI.
If it has any analog connections at all, that's straight up CRT. Be they RGB/SCART/JP-21 or even YPbPr, Analog is for CRTs.
Here, have my personal 15khz whine generator. 30" Sony FD Trinitron WEGA widescreen.
Anonymous 07/18/15 (Sat) 15:52:15 No. 3195
>>1897
The corners of those pixels could cut glass. That is pixel pornography right there.
Anonymous 07/18/15 (Sat) 15:53:47 No. 3196
>>2300
When a 30 inch takes two of you and a dolly to get it up stairs.
Anonymous 07/25/15 (Sat) 17:30:21 No. 3319
Anonymous 07/27/15 (Mon) 04:50:08 No. 3355
Despite being stupidly thing wire just stuffed into the AV port, this is one of the nicest looking pictures I've ever seen.
Glad I spent the time to get this Saturn up and working again.
Anonymous 07/28/15 (Tue) 21:16:11 No. 3374
If anyone want's to recreate a Sony BVM in RetroArch using crt-royale here are the settings: http://pastebin.com/Qpfh52tJ
Anonymous 07/28/15 (Tue) 23:10:43 No. 3380
I recently got my hands on a small CRT TV for free (Beko TVB-2406 B), but don't have any consoles yet.
Given that it's a tv made for the German market and only has a SCART/Euro-AV input connector, would it be possible to hook up an imported Japanese console (e.g. ps2, gamecube, pc engine, Saturn) to this thing? Or is it impossible due to 50/60 Hz incompatibility?
Anonymous 07/28/15 (Tue) 23:44:54 No. 3381
>>3380
It should be fine unless it's really really old.
Anonymous 07/31/15 (Fri) 15:58:57 No. 3440
So I'm told that most Radeon cards can be configured to output 15kHz RGBS under Linux with xRandr.
Looking over the related threads Google turns up, I saw some guy mention that there is some aspect of VGA signals that can harm a monitor,
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=842678
>It also (I understand) filters out the incorrect monitor frequencies so you don't end up destroying your lovely CRT.
Is that a thing, or is he wrong?
If he's talking about the PC outputting 31kHz while it boots up, could harm be avoided by leaving the monitor off until the proper signal is being sent?
Anonymous 07/31/15 (Fri) 21:36:09 No. 3441
>>3440
Feeding an Amiga monitor the wrong frequency will just make it go crazy until you stop. Turning it off is fine. I remember there being some black magic involved with tweaking a Radeon card to spit out the right frequency, so I recommend building a cheapbox to do this, rather than using your primary desktop, especially if AGP video cards are required.
I used to have an Amiga monitor, but the oscillator was going. It worked fine, but the frequency of the whine gave me a splitting headache. Don't have that problem anymore, since my asshole relatives put all of my old computer stuff in a fucking dumpster under the guise of helping me move it to my new (at the time) house.
Anonymous 07/31/15 (Fri) 21:41:17 No. 3443
>>3440
>under Linux
Windows too. I use CRT Emudriver with windows XP to output 15khz.
>can harm a monitor
Yeah the bootup/post screens will still be 31Khz. Some older monitors will have problems with this and might get damaged. My SD TV's are fine though - they just show a scambled screen until the windows logo starts. You can just leave the screen off until it's finished loading if you like.
Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 00:08:20 No. 3444
>>3441
>>3443
I see, I'll probably just leave it off during boot for safety's sake.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-Ft-Premium-15-pin-VGA-to-4-BNC-RGB-Video-Adapter-Cable-/230924143687?hash=item35c426cc47
I'm going to get that and hope my 7870 will do 15kHz, otherwise I have an ATI 7100 that should do the trick.
Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 05:00:58 No. 3448
>>3444
I'd suggest getting a VGA->5BNC, as you're going to need to combine Horizontal and Vertical Sync in order for a PVM or other wise to sync properly.
You can hypothetically just get a T-connector and force the two together, but this is the dirty method and puts undue stress on your video card.
There are relatively circuits you can build, or cheap devices to do it for you.
I personally have a very basic Extron RGB Interface(109xi) for sync processing purposes. Cost <$10 on ebay.
Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 10:44:09 No. 3449
>>3448
http://media.extron.com/download/files/userman/68-410-01_RGB109xi_SUG_RevA.pdf
The setup guide for the 109xi mentions jumpers that set the polarity and width of the sync pulses. Would I want to go with the defaults, wide and positive, for both of those?
Anonymous 08/01/15 (Sat) 14:59:20 No. 3450
>>3449
Defaults should be fine.
Anonymous 08/18/15 (Tue) 14:26:23 No. 3610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kb0qbNIMRc
So, apparently, removing termination on the XC-3730 is fucking magic for the Dreamcast.
Much brighter and clearer picture and the elimination of tons of video artifacts.
Anonymous 09/19/15 (Sat) 04:47:00 No. 3849
I have a PVM. When it turns on, there is just a blue line on the center of the screen. Power LED does not come on even though tube "functions". Anything I can do to fix it? I have done some minor repairs to CRTs before so I don't need the safety lecture. I don't think it's a problem with the vertical line sync because it still randomly works when it feels like it, and I've seen that shit before and there's a bright white line instead of a softish blue one. Also my house hasn't caught on fir (but I'm not gonna risk it.)
Anonymous 09/29/15 (Tue) 17:06:13 No. 3897
Hey, I'm looking at a PVM-20L2 and PVM-20M4U and was wondering which would be a better buy or if I should be looking at another model? I'm only looking to play 15khz consoles (NES Generation to N64 Generation) and preferably with thick scan lines.
Anonymous 10/03/15 (Sat) 00:49:51 No. 3923
My friend found a bunch of PC monitors in a dumpster, in particular this Vivitron, which is apparently a pretty high end piece of hardware (or was, at any rate) from Gateway. I mostly use a Wii w/Retroarch (the older version that can do 240p) for my emulation purposes but is there any way to do that sort of thing from a PC on a 31khz monitor without all this CRT emu driver stuff, or at least something that looks authentic (i.e. better than just using the scanline filters that all the emulators come with).
Anonymous 10/08/15 (Thu) 10:08:10 No. 3948
I've got a PVM1343MD hooked up to VGA via an RGB interface.
The monitor is advertised as having a 900 line vertical resolution and I have been able to run it at 1024x768 via S-Video, but it only accepts 15khz RGB signals. I've always assumed that the S-Video and composite inputs on PVM's were converted to RGB internally and run through the same RGB controller. Is a separate controller with an inferior signal range used for RGB?
Anonymous 10/08/15 (Thu) 13:19:12 No. 3950
>>3948
>advertised as having a 900 line vertical resolution
1343 has something in the area of 600 TVL (TV lines), not 900.
Also, that number refers to the monitor's ability to discretely resolve an image on a horizontal plane without losing any information. https://youtu.be/ffiR4E1id-8?t=6m46s
For NTSC, the vertical resolution (from top to bottom) you get 525 lines but only ~480 are actually used for displaying an image.
PAL in turn has 625 but only makes use of 576
The reason you've been able to do 1024x768 over S-Video is because the image is being scaled. The monitor is still displaying standard 480i
Anonymous 10/15/15 (Thu) 20:21:45 No. 4016
I've got a craptacular Sylvania CRT television that's falling apart by the seams and enters a diagnostic mode whenever i press the volume button.
I have no intention of saving it, but i would love to play doctor with it, maybe salvage the raw parts to Frankenstein it into something else. What are some fun projects to do with a crt while you take it apart?
I heard you can use the raw tube and it's materials to make an arcade cab display. Is this true? How do I do it?
Anonymous 10/15/15 (Thu) 20:28:16 No. 4017
>>4016
>What are some fun projects to do with a crt while you take it apart?
Electrocution device.
>I heard you can use the raw tube and it's materials to make an arcade cab display. Is this true? How do I do it?
Depending on the chassis of the CRT, it is possible to set it up to accept RGB inputs from arcade board (or retro consoles), but fiddling around inside of a CRT without know what you're doing it potentially deadly.
Anonymous 10/15/15 (Thu) 21:16:37 No. 4018
>>4017
Got any reading material, precautions and prayers for me before i decide to go under the knife? Ive already been told about discharging it.
Anonymous 10/19/15 (Mon) 10:11:55 No. 4042
>>4018
Take an EE course. I don't want you dying fucking with a goddamn tube for entertainment purposes. At least, watch instructional videos and take proper safety precautions. Carelessness kills.
Anonymous 11/16/15 (Mon) 21:35:59 No. 4209
Got another PVM this time, it's a 1344Q so not exactly big but it's better than the 8 incher I had. Although despite being 600 lines, it's not as sharp as I was expecting but oh well it's still great.
>VA6 HDG Genesis with 32X running Rocket Knight
Anonymous 11/16/15 (Mon) 22:21:09 No. 4210
Got another PVM this time, it's a 1344Q so not exactly big but it's better than the 8 incher I had. Although despite being 600 lines, it's not as sharp as I was expecting but oh well it's still great.
>VA6 HDG Genesis with 32X running Rocket Knight
Anonymous 11/16/15 (Mon) 22:22:21 No. 4211
Anonymous 11/18/15 (Wed) 11:10:08 No. 4212
File: 1447845008394.jpg (1.18 MB, 1520x2688, 95:168, tmp_26860-IMG_20151118_110….jpg )
Where have I gone wrong?
Just got my scart to BNC with sync cleaner hooked up to my pvm 14m4e. All Scart consoles (50 or 60hz) are a jittery mess. Do I need to change a setting? Svideo seems to look fine
Anonymous 11/18/15 (Wed) 12:03:12 No. 4213
>>4212
Okay i realised it was because i hadn't enabled exit sync…. im learning slowly
Now PS2 has no sync, i need at least 5v in pin 8 of my euroscart to power sync cleaner.
Anonymous 11/18/15 (Wed) 12:33:51 No. 4214
>>4209
Noice
I need to get a decent cable for my Genesis; The cheap-o chinese SCART cable I have currently gives jailbars across the entire image, bet it blue red or otherwise.
That's not even getting into needing to add the resistors to it for it to look right.
The lines visible in this picture are just in the photo and not actually there on the CRT itself.
>>4213
M4's shouldn't have any need for sync cleaning, so at this point, all that sync cleaner is doing for you is interrupting a perfectly usable sync signal. That isn't to say it might not have an effect on picture quality with some setups, but still.
If you want to be able to use your PS2 while you deal with that problem, switch it into Component/YPbPr mode and change the monitor to Comp INT mode. That'll get around the need for the sync line for now.
Anonymous 11/24/15 (Tue) 04:27:10 No. 4228
>>4212
>>4213
I also have sync issues with a dreamcast cable, it only works on the boot logo. Is there a setting i should be changing on the TV or are these cables shitty?
The PS2 will work fine on my xrgb mini but not on my PVM
Anonymous 11/24/15 (Tue) 22:08:41 No. 4233
How are cheap-ass PC monitors for emulation? I'm moving my desktop PC to another country and I'm hoping to find one at a thrift shop or something. I haven't had one for around a decade and seeing these threads makes me really miss having one.
Anonymous 12/14/15 (Mon) 21:55:11 No. 4280
So guys I just bought two Fw900 for $300.
Oh god this 16:10 setup will be good, downside, i dont get them till april, buddy lived 15 mins from the dude selling them and is holding on to them till i drive to a lan party.
2560x1600 Crt here I come.
Anonymous 12/16/15 (Wed) 11:16:56 No. 4282
>>4280
I'll just be sitting here with my 70khz limited 4:3 Sony, eternally jelly.
>>4233
>22 days later
As long as you can find something not stupidly bottom shelf and in relatively decent condition, I don't see where you'd have a problem.
Anonymous 12/16/15 (Wed) 17:58:27 No. 4285
>>4282
see this fw900 also has a 4:3 mode similar to the 4:3 enhanced 16:9 like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQavZ7zv-6o
I want to see if I can get it to 240hz 240p or 480p, might have to get one of the diamondtrons.
https://www.hdfury.com/shop/gamer/hdfury-gamer-2-rgbhv/
also saw this, thoughts on using this to push the fw900's, i have a nvidia card with a ram dac and BNCS.
but im getting a fury x soon, and a 9590 to overclock and just bought a asus gen3 sabertooth with pci 3.0, then enthoo mini xl then that mini 2011-3 itx. Dont worry Ill have pics soon of the fw900.
Anonymous 12/28/15 (Mon) 20:05:40 No. 4349
Regular Super Famicom with luma sync RGB going into a PVM-8044Q.
Anonymous 12/29/15 (Tue) 23:01:49 No. 4356
>>4349
>Super Famicom with luma sync RGB
Why? There's pure CSYNC to be had from the SFC, no need to use luma.
Anonymous 01/02/16 (Sat) 04:54:57 No. 4377
Any way to tell the difference between a CRT and just a shitty small TV? Have an old TV and don't know if it's CRT or not. I mean I could probably just google it and figure it out. Sorry for my retardation.
Anonymous 01/02/16 (Sat) 05:11:51 No. 4379
>>4377
Is it reasonable heavy for it's size? 13'' CRTs (your average "small" CRT) can easily weigh 30+ pounds. If you could even find an LCD that small, I couldn't see it weighting more than a few pounds at most.
Is the face of the TV glass? Give it a firm knock; Did the screen break?
Yes? Either a shitty flatscreen, or riddled with pieces of glass from what must have been an absolute hulk smash of a knock.
No? CRT
Does it have that ghetto booty?
No- Trashy LCD
Yes- Delicious CRT
Anonymous 01/02/16 (Sat) 05:30:12 No. 4381
>>4379
>glass face
>ghetto booty
This was why I originally thought it was a CRT, on top of the picture quality for SNES and PS1. I had a good guess based on the picture quality vs. a modern TV, but thanks for confirming my suspicions anon.
Anonymous 01/03/16 (Sun) 08:10:38 No. 4392
I have an uninteresting story for you guys.
Some time ago, I purchased a Phillips 30PW8402 from a friend for $50, a 30'' CRT that can display 1080i. I figured this would be a good TV to use with my computer for emulators. Sadly, the overscan on this TV was horrendous, to the point where it went past the 10 mark on the first image.
I googled for the service manual, and it turns out some Phillips TV's have a hidden menu for repairmen to use. If you have a Phillips TV from around 2005-2006, press 0,6,2,5,9,6, [status]; and you should see it. The geometry options are still not sufficient to fix severe overscan issues, however.
So, I tried editing xorg.conf to compensate, but that was a huge waste of time. There's lots of outdated information online about how to do this. What ended up working, however, was manually providing the modeline used with the TV. cvt, gtf, and the various online calculators did not give usable modelines, so instead I used this chart. Don't try this recklessly, because giving a particularly bad modeline can damage your CRT; but sometimes this is the only way to get good picture quality,
Now that the TV is properly configured, the picture is actually very nice (ignore the bad camera quality). No prominent scanlines, but the colors are very vibrant, there's very little bleeding, no ghosting, etc. If you ever see one of these TV's for a cheap price, I'd suggest picking it up. But keep in mind getting a proper configuration will be a pain in the ass.
Anonymous 01/03/16 (Sun) 08:11:33 No. 4393
>>4392
Alright, I can only post one picture at a time
Anonymous 01/07/16 (Thu) 16:12:26 No. 4403
>>4214
>M4's shouldn't have any need for sync cleaning, so at this point, all that sync cleaner is doing for you is interrupting a perfectly usable sync signal. That isn't to say it might not have an effect on picture quality with some setups, but still.
What would a sync cleanup even do to the picture? This is the first time I've heard of it.
Anonymous 01/08/16 (Fri) 16:15:02 No. 4404
>>4403
When I say sync cleaner, I mean stripper. Something like an lm1881.
Some displays/scalers/processors REQUIRE "clean" "raw" composite sync in order to work at all. Technically, some consoles can look a bit nicer when using c-sync(composite sync) rather than composite video for sync with the major one being the Genesis/Mega Drive.
Admittedly, said stripper can bring an existing composite sync signal that is slightly out of spec back into line, so it wouldn't be entirely useless.
Anonymous 03/12/16 (Sat) 14:34:27 No. 4505
>like to get as many av hookups as I to keep options open
>want scart to component and component to scart simple adapter
>all the options are just the video of component to scart or vice versa, no equivalent of the composite rca set up but for component
is component too different? i thought rgb and component were the same but it looks like component isn't compatible the way composite is with scart
the only crt i have are some small one all with scart only inputs (except for a black and white tv with only rf)
Anonymous 03/17/16 (Thu) 01:42:43 No. 4508
Here's my Japanese Saturn running through s-video on an 8 inch PVM.
Anonymous 03/17/16 (Thu) 12:49:08 No. 4509
>>4508
Looks fucking awesome m8
Anonymous 03/17/16 (Thu) 17:20:20 No. 4510
>>403
Pvms are the best thing since sliced bread and I love it.
Mine is 20", Olympus rebrand of Sony m2mdu20.
Anonymous 03/20/16 (Sun) 10:03:16 No. 4516
Hey /vr/ what's a reasonably priced transcoder I can purchase?