/film/ - Film

>>5115

I'd say it doesn't matter. I saw rabbits first, and it didn't really add or take away from either when I saw Inland Empire. it's not like it's supplementary to the plot or anything, the way he made Inland Empire was basically filming his ideas and then editing them together; Rabbits was one of these ideas and he put it in. just make sure you're in the right mood for Rabbits, it's a single static shot for 42 minutes. maybe eat a handful of benadryl and a bottle of robitussin

I'll add another film to the thread, Phantasm. this one is much more conventional, ostensibly a cheesy 70s scifi/horror film with bad acting, kid actor lead. but it's so damn strange and surreal I have to recommend it. don't watch a trailer, just watch the movie

The Reflecting Skin might just be the most disturbing film I've ever seen.

>>5187

>Do you have any other bizarre horror movies from the 70s?

I'm sure I've seen some, but Phantasm is the one that's stuck with me most because it's so out there.. might be worth looking into Argento, though honestly I find him incredibly boring

The Wicker Man (the 70s one, not nic cage) is a kind of horror film that is very unique, but again a far cry from the Begotten school of horror. definitely dreamy and very creepy though

also, this goes without saying with all the talk of Lynch in here, but Eraserhead is one of the most insane and horrifying films there is and there is absolutely nothing else like it (that I'm aware of) (besides his other films). so definitely see that if you haven't

Cronenberg is another to look into, his 80s works are what is called "body horror" and you really need to see it to understand it. Scanners, Videodrome, The Fly, all great and quite horror inducing. haven't seen some of his others like The Brood and the Dead Zone, but they're supposed to be good as well

idk I'm not much of horror fan, hopefully someone with real knowledge of the genre will bust in, but everything I've listed should be enjoyable and give you at least slight feelings of horror unique from the standard Halloween brand of horror

and btw I guarantee that downing a bottle of tussin and some benadryl will make these movies significantly more horrifying if you seek such a thing. robitussin is not the sizzurp of purple legend, but is a powerful dissociative and benadryl a powerful deliriant. they combine to provide quite an experience, the most terrified I've ever been in my entire life was on 354mg of DXM (this is a bottle of robitussin lingering cough) and 300mg of DPH (or 12 benadryl) watching The Shining. I recommend such a thing to the strong of heart (literally and figuratively because this shit is "probably" very bad for you and also terrifying, but in a gratifying way)

/end rambling post

I can't think of many others like Begotten, but I can post some more all-purpose quality horrors.

One of the best low-budget 70s horrors is Let's Scare Jessica to Death. There's a dusting of influence from Rosemary's Baby. Check it out if you prefer more of a slow burning psychological type of film.

>>5208

i was very close to literally running away during the old lady in the bathroom scene. my friend on the same mixture actually did, he hid in the bathroom until it was over. everything about that film is so deeply off… like all the dialogue, camera angles, it's all sort of just, unsound.. and the tension that builds with the crazy modernist classical Kubrick chose is so intense. I really felt like I was losing my mind, I basically was Jack for the duration of the film (thanks to dxm, you dissociate and can pretty much merge your reality with any film you watch/video game you play and so on). absolutely insane experience, and for the rest of the night my friend was hallucinating jack nicholson standing around in the corners

>>5209

they definitely do have a different vibe. I think it's really just another aspect of the shift that popular film in general took after Jaws and Star Wars. more focus on the spectacle of the thing

I did my robotripping watching The Wall in a dorm room. Is that too cliche? I don't know if I could have handled a horror movie.

After downing the bottle of maximum strength, I went outside with my friends and smoked a joint. We came in and had a couple beers and put on the Pink Floyd movie. I took a codiene for good measure. Why not mix four things at once? When it all kicked in, the musical crescendos had my heart pounding pretty fast.

I didn't hallucinate at all though. It just felt like an intense drunk/high. I was behaving oddly but that's as far as it went.

Anyway, this thread needs mention of The Cremator (1969) and Angst (1983). Both are pretty warped yet uniquely appealing in different ways.

>>5097

I think Decasia is a lot like Begotten in some ways. It really builds into this crazy thing. The music makes it a very intense experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeEzb-0vf7A

Also, one movie that that kind of fits this thread is Ice from the Sun. Low budget madness, narratively horrible but it well worth a watch. It has these horror clichés but they do get experimental.

Possession maybe?

I think Pig (1998) is related too but I haven't seen it.

>>5264

Ice from the Sun does have terrible reviews but if you strap yourself in for low budget madness, reviews don't really matter or do they? I just wish this movie was discussed more. I think there's more to it than 'z-budget horror maker tries pretentious shit'. Even tho a lot about the movie wasn't good at all, it was still very interesting.

Decasia is indeed interesting. There's not much more to it than is in that clip but it makes for one hell of a trip. People've been talking about DPH and DXM in this thread? Decasia is a descent into dissociative madness. Not like there's someone or something in the movie that can replace your self but after watching this I felt like someone scooped out my soul.

The only movies that I think are truly similar are Inland Empire and Begotten, but this is without narrative.

Yes, I was talking about Possession (1981). I've seen it a few weeks ago for the first time and I have to say it's quite a thing. Not sure wether I think it's a good movie or not but it definitely left an impression. Like a crazy crossover between Blue Velvet and a Cronenberg movie. Just go see it, it is bonkers.

Oh, it has this character that has the same accent as Tommy Wiseau and the main character is called Mark. Yay.

>>5270

I'll check them all out anon. Don't know what order but I'm thinking Possession first and then flip a coin for Decasia and Ice From The Sun.

>>5272

Awesome. Let me know what you think.

Legitimately horrifying…yet weirdly fascinating if you can stomach the content.

This is a documentary about an extreme bdsm site called insex.com which no longer exists because DHS killed its credit card processing. The demented spectacle of girls pushed to their bounds of trauma/pain is more Graphic Horror than Sex. Supposedly consent is involved, but there's a lot of pressure to avoid safewording – both by the site owner's manipulative mindfuckery and the thousands of expectant site members watching live.

Crazy shit.

稀人 (Marebito, 2004)

This one is a very Lovecraft influenced film with a great atmosphere. Give it a watch.

>>5097

Rather frightening. The use of impressionistic techniques of montage and the sheer grotesque nature of it combined with the slow and concise build up to the climax is perhaps the strongest point of the film.

>>6054

> intentionally break the rules of film-making

can you be more specific? i don't know if i understand what you mean by that

maybe try Valerie a týden divu (1970)

i think it's closer to fantasy than horror but it might fit your criteria

>>6061

Sorry, I should have elaborated more. I guess the biggest example would be how The Shining crosses the line/breaks the 180 degree rule. It's often hard to exactly tell the general layout of the Overlook and it's rooms when Kubrick constantly switches where you are viewing the scene. In the kitchen he even crosses the 180 degree line, but keeps the door for the pantry on the same side of the shot, effectively changing the architecture in an instant. This is added to by the fact that the Overlook contains "impossible" rooms, where there is a door to somewhere, but it's also where a larger room/different room/staircase/etc. should be.