/film/ - Film

Pretty good, my only gripe is how they make a park such a big ideal, i mean if it had been a school or something of the sort then it would have felt more important, a bit sloppy at times but it's definately worth a watch.

>American Sniper

Meh, i just wanted to see what all the fuzz was about, it was entertaining but some visual and sound effects were painfully amateur for a movie that's supposed to be realistic dat baby it did get me kinda sad at the end, since i didn't know the guy was actually dead, the last "battle" had too much unrealistic action to be taken seriously, so i liked the concept but the execution wasn't really good.

>Patton

Besides some issues with historical accuracy it was pretty enjoyable, the start kinda comes out of nowhere Patton leading the assault at Casablanca would've made a better intro than the parade with the obviosly not moroccan moroccan king, also the they could have done a better job with the tanks, i'm really into ww2 so that kinda killed the "immersion" but all in all a pretty good film.

Good movie. Good story arcs, great characters, good biopic.

It got the twists and the irony

But for some reason the casting choice and acting was meh. It had so much potential but only got us so far. Its not bad tho, its was interesting to see this part of history and how it played out in hollywood.

Too bad that gommies are going to be fashionable now.

Last night I watched ABOUT ELLY from Asghar Farhadi

Very good, if not quite as powerful as some of Farhadi's other films. It still has distinctive characters and a layered story about familial relationships. When events takes a mysterious turn you're forced to overanalyze every detail of the preceding hour, searching for the truth. Maybe it's formulaic but I like this formula...

And half the fun is witnessing Persian culture. So if you guys have more suggestions of films from Iran I'd love to hear them. This list has nice candidates: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls059697550/

Going a little off-route with the usual high class shown in these threads i will comment on this flick i saw, seen plenty since the last time i posted but this one screams for a comment

Double Team from 1997, starring JCVD, Mickey Rourke and the talented yet bizarre B-Ball playa Dennis Rodman. The project was famous for being critically panned, bombed in western cinemas, placed Van Damme's career in a not-good position and had a considerable sport celebrity acting role (Dennis Rodman), your usual trashy action movie or is it

I remember watching it on TV way back in the day and thinking it was cool and flashy, checking the critics i saw it had a dirty reputation due to the aforementioned stuff and also being a Razzie winner, these days some channels place ratings from review websites so the once 3.9 rating from IMDB was pure poison (today 4.7, still not that cool)

The director was Hark Tsui, famous for his pretty good Once Upon a Time in China trilogy, Green Snake and Peking Opera Blues. He was given a good chunk of money and creative control, so this was supposedly a serious job, unlike the usual cash-ins from the cheap producers who did this (some Israelis, and even the script shows the jewry from time to time)

Going directly to the point i personally think i wasn't that wrong, this movie is very surprisingly entertaining and shows a very good amount of attention to details, along with OOZING style. But it very obviously shows it had 2 different moments, one can clearly see the half made by Tsui (the first one) and the one these guys mandated him to do.

The movie is about an elite special forces agent (JCVD) that hunts down for one last time his old nemesis, an ex-elite special forces turned mercenary/crime mogul (Rourke). The plan turned not as expected and JCVD was thrown in exile on an secret island for extremely dangerous ex-agents who are believed dead.

That one island part is what makes this movie memorable and frankly gives enough fuel for the average viewer to chug the second half of the movie expecting something like the first one.

The first half has a lot of the usual stylish Hong Kong action, catering more to style than substance but without overdoing it. The attention to detail with numerous reflections and sets gives plenty candy, there's a lot of dutch angles and "artsy" frames that don't go as far out to be annoying. All of this along with the soundtrack and the bizarre & modern setting gives this movie one of the strongest 90's vibe trips i've seen

Somewhere in production the israelis saw this stuff was not really getting anywhere they wanted (action) and decided to cut expenses and stripped Tsui from creative control (alon with redesigning the script), and it really shows, some set pieces and sce, hell, overall the whole pacing, was heavily rushed, practical effects were replaced with CGI in post-production (and not the good kind), dutch angles almost gone, lack of polish the first half had, everyone teletransports. Another movie by itself, no wonder i only remember the first half. It's almost 90 minutes long but it really feels like it was planned to be a 120 minute one, i think some precious scenes were stripped to check with the 90 minute mark

In the end i have to say IMHO that this movie isn't anywhere near as bad as critics made it out to be, it isn't the worst action flick with high budget by a walking mile easily. And the main grip for many, Dennis Rodman acting, is hilarious: He seems forced at times but he's decent in his role, he just acts as himself, and it feels natural for obvious reasons, it seems this part was heavily overblown by the media... he seriously isn't the worst actor by far, not even in the genre, Clive Owen pretends to act and goes to be way worse than Rodman's constant B-Ball references forced upon him.

It was a nice ride but the obnoxious rushed as all hell straight-2-DVD quality second half and action CGI takes down the whole thing by a notch, but not for a burial. I dare to say even (because it really, really feels like it) the first 45 minutes are worthy of being one of the best rides in its genre (that being the Schwarzenegger-Stallone action scene) and a notable example on how to do a stylish action film along with being a member of the department of wasted potential. Quite a comment for a film not even shown on late-night cheap film channels anymore

With jews, you lose

2artsy4me

Exodus(1960)

After watching Trumbo I had to watch one of his movies.

3 and a half hours of pure zionism.

The intro credits were gorgeous, one of the best ones Ive ever seen.

The plot of the movie is about some jews in a somewhat concentration camp in cyprus that wants to get out to Israel.

The movie is funny at times since it mocks of the jewish stereotype that british had at the time. It also touched on more real and delicate issues like the differences between jews on how to deal with that situation and how even most jews opposed to the extremism of Irgun.

The movie ends with a soft and preachy monologue about world peace that was a bit too forced. It was very similar of that at the end of Nuremberg Trial, but unlike that movie this was way way better and way way less preachy.

Good movie, the acting was somewhat off and overacted but I think that was to be expected since Preminger wanted fresh jews on the screen and some of them werent professional actors.

>>6694

The score was excellent IMO, the famous "This Land" piece is a great one, shame about the actual connotation of it all.

OK, sorry about the dirt entertainment and controversial opinions here, but i found something odd about these guys

Caddyshack, made in 1980 by Harold Ramis, starring Chevy Chase, Rodney Dangerfield, Ted Knight and Michael O'Keefe (speaking about semites)

This one is considered a comedy classic, sitting around in the olympus of the genre along with a friend from the very same year called Airplane!. But IMHO i think it's very contrasting, speaking strictly i found it to be somewhat trash, but not forgettable.

The plot was thin-air, many scenes are inconsequential in both basic plot and comedic value, there's basic sex scenes that add nothing to the thing other than a free bone, and if you had already taken the bad ideas from your head by hand this feature is not a cool thing to see.

The whole thing felt like a cheap and non-impressive vehicle for the apparently main dish, the individual performances. And talking serious, if the famed work of these actors in the movie is known for their improvisations and ad-libbed jokes, and the movie is just about that, then you have to wonder what in the world was happening to the director and the script.

Those are the only things that move this joint, Chevy Chase erratic but cold behaviour, Dangerfield's jew stereotype attitude and loud joke delivery, Murray's plain dumb dialogue and Ted Knight's neutrality passive/aggresive to mix all up with the teenage wasteland sub-plot (or was it the main one?)

Decent flick, i don't know what i missed to feel this is not a top dog in the comedy genre unlike the real classic of Airplane, maybe i didn't get enough enjoyment from the free dialogue windows or Cindy Morgan being hot as hail. But maybe it is not that good, after all the sequel would go to do the same but scrap some of these improv comedy commentary windows along with the gratious sex, and it bombed hard even with Rex Kramer inside.

And speaking of Airplane...

Top Secret!, made in 1984 by the Zucker bros. plus Jim Abrahams (seeing a pattern here) starring the debut of Val Kilmer supported by Lucy Gutteridge, Christopher Villiers, Michael Gough, Jim Carter and Omar Sharif.

Deemed as the spiritual sequel of Airplane!, this one is not really shaped in that closed behaviour, but rather a simple parody on a genre, this one about WWII films, it seems it even uses some tech from the 50's and 60's war scene and def some of the cinematography is inspired.

This is way more plot centric than the previously mentioned films, but still features the usual small plain dumb jokes, there's not that many memorable phrases like Caddyshack (supposedly) had but to be fair the comedy is different, it's visually focused instead of catchphrases and gibberish dialogue, but they are pulled as good as ever.

The thing that grabbed my attention more is Val Kilmer's performance, the guy was very good even in his early years, his role is somewhat calm but gives a lot of physical presence, and overall it seems he really put a lot of effort. Shame he wasn't picked more often for difficult movies due to his notorious behaviour, this guy is really good.

Also some set pieces and scene coordination are very cool, i enjoyed this one way more than Caddy, both are decent but this one pretends to feel like a classic a little more convincingly for me, still strange for a film that isn't namedropped as much as the other. Recommended for the Hot Shots!/Airplane! fans.

Also these last directors seem to like picking main actresses that look somewhat jewish, mock christians and place yiddish as a replacement for foreign languages. Very constant, just an observation thou, i-it's not like i want to g-gas them all or anything

Watched this yesterday. I enjoyed it, it's an easier watch than Dogtooth or The Alps. On the other hand, the overall metaphor feels a little shallow, it could have been subtler. Great deadpan humor, nonetheless.

It's decent, Letters is better though.

Any recommendations on ww2 films? i'm very interested in the period so i'd love to see more movies set in it, good movies of course.

>>6699

These are not really obscure but worth the post if you haven't checked them

Soldier of Orange or Los Comandos de la Reina in the spanish-speaking countries, a 150 minute ride about a bunch of dutch college students that are caught in the early WW2 years

It's not action-packed but it was very worth the time. Starring Rutger Hauer (Bladerunner villain) and Jeroen Krabbe (James Bond villain) and Paul Verhoeven (Hollywood villain) as the director

It's not overly dramatic as others, Verhoeven is a known lover of satire and there's no biased arguments, even with a lot of jew actors here

There's also The Train if you want the traditional movie aspect, it's about a nazi train with a lot of "stolen art" and a bunch of commandos trying to sabotage it

Starring the giant Paul Scofield as the SS colonel and Burt Lancaster as the team's lead, John Frankenheimer as the director and Franklin Coen as the writter

Just watched Court. Based on the trailer I was expecting it to be a movie that took place in only two locations, the performance and the courtroom. Luckily it had a lot more going on and was a lot more interesting than I was expecting.

I think the technique of branching off and focusing on each character's mundane lives outside of the court room made the movie for me, I've noticed that happening in several movies I've watched recently and it goes a long way towards a deeper connection and understanding of the world. I'm not sure if they used any documentary elements or non-actors but it felt like they might have, it all felt pretty authentic and cinema verite, albeit with a lot of very steady tripod shots. The formal qualities were noticeable but not overly so, and the political message was woven in seamlessly. The fact that it was this director's first film makes it even more impressive, I'm looking forward to seeing what he comes up with next.

>gay cowboys movie

First time seeing it, pretty good, loved it to be honest, it really gave me feels, i'd recommend to anyone.

>La Bête Humaine

It was interesting, but i felt that it went nowhere, or was somewhat pointless.

>>6674

Just watched that, pretty damn good, definitely a must watch of persian cinema, Farahani's performance was heart breaking too.

>>6802

> Farahani's performance was heart breaking too.

Speaking of the actress, it's interesting to witness how a woman's beauty and identity shifts almost entirely to their face when they are bundled up so much

I can't go full burka though

>Persepolis

Loved the animation and its minimalistic art-style, pretty decent, would have liked it to be more serious, but after all is supposed to be understood by kids too so it's ok.

>>6821

>I can't go full burka though

now i'm curious about saudi cinema

Hell's Highway (1932) - pre-code message movie about the brutality of a prison work crew. I'd call it a hidden gem because it's been overshadowed by the brilliant I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang released less than 2 months later.

With a running time of scarcely more than an hour this film moves quickly. I liked the playful comic relief and musical sequences with black cast members.

The harsh side of the story concerns the hot box, famously featured in Cool Hand Luke and The Bridge on the River Kwai. In Hell's Highway prisoners are restrained to the back wall so they must endure the heat on their feet. Another unique detail is the prison garb -- instead of stripes or blue shirts, prisoners have a white target painted on their backs.

bailed out after 15 minutes. good idea?

the visual style was interesting but it seemed to be going in a shock/torture direction. 4edgy2me and Austrian Angst is probably better

Saw these 2 "bad" movies recently for the necessary Brosnanmania fix, they get a lot of heat but i think people forget the objectives of these pieces

Live Wire (1992) is your typical late-night action flick, it receives a lot of criticism for being "bad" but honestly the movie isn't boring and it's actually mildly entertaining on many levels, but most importantly it's aware of its objective unlike many of its critics: The movie knows it is low-budget and doesn't pretend to be a blockbuster, and doesn't take itself seriously at any moment, changing the context considerably: it doesn't deserve to be compared with Terminator 2 or Rambo 3

It's a product of its time and works around it, filled with cliches like the stars themselves: Washinton D.C. and its afro-centric community, Pierce Brosnan as a really pissed-off drunk irishman who has a knack for bombs, Ben Cross as a really angry Libyan terrorist ripped-off in an arms deal, Brent Jennings as the Post-Civil Rights highly-skilled laboratorist and Ron Silver as a jewish congressman heading an investigation concerning fellow politicians getting attacked in mysterious bomb attacks, and who also has an affair with Brosnan character's wife

This last piece, the affair, is what in my opinion saves this movie from the Forgettable category, the entire thing is generic but the sub-plot regarding it moves the film more so than the main bombing plot, the erratic husband who has to work under his now-boss cold and ammoral attitude, and the movie exploits this, making fun of the protagonist very often implying every single character in the movie knows of this conflict and laughing at it without the movie changing from drama/action to comedy, just small dialogue quips that make the bomb expert angrier, until it's revealed he has to protect the man

Overall this is a forced low-budget project who works more as a bill-payer than a serious work, but with the crew still trying to make it work and have some fun. That was the objective (broadcasted on cable less than a year of its debut), it ends up feeling like it and overall it's a satisfying "action" flick that fills the void if you catch it on night TV, it even has a softcore sex scene but with the misfortune it shows more manass than real ass

Taffin (1988) is a unique experience as a film fan in the digital era. This movie gets way more heat than Live Wire due to self-hating irishmen/cheeky UK residents joking about the nature of the film which was shown consistently on TV and because it isn't very good

This one stars Pierce Brosnan as a loan shark, Ray McAnally as a worried citizen along with being Brosnan's friend and Alison Doody as a hot broad. The movie stars as the typical irish movie with really nice shots of the green fields, and goes to show the loan shark collecting money in his small town, but it takes a surprising turn when the shark goes to work on his self-interests, those being the safe-being of his town's public places

It all goes to the standard of the irish movie, the prominent fields, the people's daily life and the implied love the irish have for their land and Guiness.

But the reason i said unique digital experience is because of a notable scene starring Brosnan and Doody, in which the really pissed and beaten-up shark screams to his girlfriend she shouldn't live there if she doesn't want to help the town, this scene became a target for editings and "memes" due to the exagerated delivery (which was justified in the context) and many "Youtubers" started mocking and using the sound clip. The file i got was going well until that scene in which we can see it was heavily edited to make fun of this, a 54-minute setup for a 10 second joke. I got a laugh but the subtitles became a mess and while still not angry i checked to see another version, that is when the laughter stopped, YT didnt have the movie and the 3 versions i downloaded had an editing of sorts in this scene

I can understand english with almost no problems but the irish like to talk in ways i cannot understand some of the times. Downloading another version right now but this whole ordeal is surprising, the original file is quite rare among the tricked, memed-up versions and overall the movie at that point wasn't even bad, just kinda slow and too relaxed at times

I don't know stuff from the production to take a precise opinion (haven't even finished it yet) but the joint was very decent for a TV movie and it's no way near a ridicule to the irish film industry

But to be honest some movies do change dramatically after the first half, i remember one in particular

>>6841

Ah yeah, I heard about Taffin on Adam & Joe's BBC podcast in 2011. It looks like the scene was on youtube 2 years before that.

Are you saying that someone edited the video file to be funny? I've never encountered that before. You could try to time-shift the subtitles with your media player (or subtitle workshop) if it's not too far gone.

>>6716

That's a great new release. I believe there was no camera movement for 20+ minutes. I liked that. Stationary camera emphasizes image composition, and it's a throwback to classic film making. A lot of shots were taken from a distance which made the viewer detached from the situation. It often made court seem more inconsequential.

I wonder how India evolved to be a country of petty authoritarianism. Indians I've met were pretty laid back. I watched a Bollywood movie with a friend and he scoffed in disgust when I asked him about the censor certificate.

Court was much different from Bollywood of course, and sometimes it seemed to be jabbing at that aspect of their culture. The more I think about it, the more I want to read Indian reaction to this film.

>>6630

Played it in my cytu.be stream (khantube) trying to relive the nostalgia of 8chan from a year ago.

I liked the novel, but the storyline is a bit too convoluted to fit in a movie. There's a lot of stuff going on in the 3 hours, and someone who didn't read the novels will get confused what's going on easily. Also, the romance plot between Jan and Helen (which is what adds another dimension to the novel) is condensed a lot, while it is still there, someone who hasn't read the books won't notice it's importance to the plot as the movie spends too much time on presenting the Poles and Ukrainians before the final battle.

The setting (Ukraine during the rebellion of 1648) is very well presented though, costumography is most of the time very good (though on moments the moustaches look a bit silly), and acting isn't bad either. It's obvious that Poles really put some effort into this movie. Also unlike too many western movies where you maybe hear the "bad guys" speaking another language to each other, you actually hear characters speak different languages, besides Polish and Ukrainian the Crimeans speak (modern) Turkish.

Overall, the movie is a good adaptation of a great historical fiction novel, but it isn't anything special. If it wasn't for the fact that it's an adaptation of a novel of great importance, and the really good setting immersion, it would be just another movie with a historical setting. If you are here for the story, read the novels.

>Sicario

That was really really good, tense and dark, as everyone else have said yes, the plot is fairly simple, but again as everyone else have said, the talent of the people working on the movie made it really enoyable for me.

>The Wind Rises

Definitely one of the best animation movies i've seen, perhaps it's my huge faggotry, but that film made me cry like a bitch, deeply moving on all levels.

My only gripe is the animation, i can't help to compare the film to Shinkai's work, so i see ways the film could've looked better, mouth movements and synchronisation could've been better too.

That's pretty minor though, go watch it.

I'm probably the last person to see this 80s nostalgiasploitation but it was great fun. I appreciate the vision and determination needed to create a widely successful first-time project.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5P_LAqiVg

To nitpick a couple aspects, the hypermasculine female characters seemed better suited for [Current Year] than any time in the 80s. One kickass chick was a roided-out bodybuilder. The other was a Xena knockoff with a massive black cock machine gun. These girls were the opposite of adorable 80s qt characters, so they undercut the effectiveness of the retro homage.

Secondly the use of Hitler as a villain was hacky and out of place. Danger 5 already ran the joke into the ground using the same anachronistic villain in a 60s spy spoof. There's fertile ground to write characters inspired by the crazy villains of 80s action and 60s spy movies, so why not try that? Missed opportunity.