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 No.8956

I want to get into this. Are there any good websites to follow? Film festivals?

 No.8959

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>>8956

I don't know too much about video art, but you'll fine a lot of great experimental video clips at http://www.ubu.com/film/

Have you seen much Brakhage? He might be a good place to start.


 No.8960

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 No.8968

File: f9837db32e219a9⋯.mp4 (641.25 KB, 480x360, 4:3, 1460267899997.mp4)

>>8959

Love Brakhage. Are there any modern artists like him?

>>8960

Interesting concept. Some might call that art.


 No.8972

What is video art?

Is it a subcategory of experimental film, is it abstract animation, is it video from an art installation, is it video of an art performance, ...


 No.9002

File: e7bb65fd2504551⋯.jpg (20.24 KB, 200x349, 200:349, Wax_or_the_Discovery_of_Te….jpg)

This

https://vimeo.com/52306393

you can also legally download it from the page


 No.9003

>>8972

Doesn't the definition cover everything you just listed and more? I don't think 'video art' is an exclusive label.


 No.9013

File: 4dd9fb613203b5f⋯.jpg (18.66 KB, 178x178, 1:1, logobig.jpg)

You could try the Index DVD series to sample different artists. These names will be new for most people - http://www.index-dvd.at/en/program.html

> Similar to a small publishing house for quality literature, INDEX releases and distributes audiovisual publications relevant to the history of international and Austrian film, video and media art. Information about the film- and videomakers and their production methods as well as analyses of the works are provided in a bilingual German-English booklet. INDEX DVDs are available to schools for educational use, as well as university institutes and libraries.

>>9002

very good


 No.9033

>>9002

This is really cool.


 No.9040

File: 96c62b4686dd154⋯.gif (1.88 MB, 360x480, 3:4, 38e6cce4492d55dc064e9b1479….gif)

>>9002

This was quite the surprise, thanks anon.


 No.9059

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Michael Snow is worth checking out. I'd classify some of his experimental films as visual art. Here's a pretty good introduction to his work: http://www.jonathanrosenbaum.net/1983/09/michael-snow-tk/

Embedded is this one

> For epic visual breadth, perhaps the only Snow creation to rival Flight Stop is the three-hour film, La Région Centrale (The Central Region, 1971), in which a computer-operated camera spins in endlessly changing configurations around an uninhabited mountain landscape in northern Quebec. It probably wouldn’t be an exaggeration to call this film one of Snow’s least popular works — it certainly has the fewest laughs. But that’s largely because it’s so scary. There’s a direct assault on the senses, including one’s center of gravity, as the flip-flopping camera makes circular patterns at variable speeds that no human being could possibly duplicate, producing an experience roughly akin to riding a demonic ferris wheel. “I wanted to make the film a condensed day,” Snow explained. “It isn’t, really, but it does start in daylight, and then there’s sunset and sunrise, and it’s over at something like eleven.”


 No.9069

File: 15c005c13028df0⋯.jpg (25.67 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 500x500.jpg)

what about this guy


 No.9072

>>9069

Talentless faggot. He produced some decent horror films though.


 No.9132

File: 479b363020a9acd⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 11 MB, 676x450, 338:225, MEDIA.mp4)


 No.9133

File: f271504e95909fb⋯.jpg (172.04 KB, 1044x1200, 87:100, donald warhol.jpg)


 No.9142

File: 47bb49eae9439c3⋯.mp4 (10.56 MB, 682x480, 341:240, MEIN FENSTER.mp4)


 No.9147

File: f8be3cc0191057d⋯.jpeg (167.25 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, f8be3cc0191057da58bf41443….jpeg)

>>9142

>>9132

Thanks for posting those brother.

>>9069

hard to find his stuff for free online. It sounds interesting though.


 No.9372

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>>9142

>>9132

These are great.


 No.9386

File: a4798dbab951c9d⋯.webm (763.52 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, SacredShapes.webm)

i like this thread

right up my alley

>>9132

thanks anon


 No.9388

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Phase Transition in Liquid Crystals

Jean Painlevé, 1978


 No.9421

File: b1382a1ef641fa3⋯.gif (21.4 KB, 506x666, 253:333, endlessummer_poster.gif)

>>9388

nice post


 No.9545

Anyone watch B0dyG0d? Think he's the same person as NobodyTM?


 No.9546

>>9545

Cool channel https://www.youtube.com/user/b0dyg0d

what program do you think he uses?


 No.9556

File: f9c1f5f2d9b3191⋯.jpeg (113.47 KB, 454x382, 227:191, alice1.jpeg)

>>9546

I have no idea but his work is gorgeous.


 No.9558

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Instructions for a Light & Sound Machine (Peter Tscherkassky, 2005)

director's comment: http://www.tscherkassky.at/content/films/theFilms/InstructionsEN.html

wikipedia: "Peter Tscherkassky (born October 3, 1958) is an Austrian avant-garde filmmaker who works primarily with found footage. All of his work is done with film and heavily edited in the darkroom, rather than relying on recent advances in digital film."


 No.9587

File: 17bc930909a23ff⋯.jpg (21.25 KB, 400x400, 1:1, brain-epilepsy-seizures.jpg)

>>9558

More epileptic than I was expecting


 No.9615

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>>9558

Cool find


 No.9616

>>9558

I think this is experimental filmmaking, doesn't video art have to be digital?


 No.9617

File: 0ab22d9d6097f55⋯.png (370.82 KB, 834x514, 417:257, 1453516488167.png)

>>9616

Interesting point. So what exactly is the difference between experimental filmmaking and video art?


 No.9621

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>>9616

I think it should involve video tape, even though a lot of people ITT are posting things from film


 No.9631

File: 9fca1632fd1177c⋯.gif (1.89 MB, 508x356, 127:89, Strange-Weather-gif.gif)

>>9617

Well... film is film, video is digital.

>>9621

Agreed, but I would also add any digital video.

Unrelated: I just checked and Peggy Ahwesh's short Strange Weather (1993) no longer is on Vimeo. I was going to link it. It was shot on a Fisher Price PXL-2000 and is around an hour long. I am conflicted on whether it should be categorized as video art or something else, because it is almost more of a documentary.


 No.9632

Well there could be another thread for experimental. I don't want to miss something cool that isn`t true video art


 No.9633

>>9632

many probably fit in this thread for shorts >>2591


 No.9936

File: ae04898a27b5269⋯.gif (959.9 KB, 488x275, 488:275, 1448112800394-0.gif)


 No.9941

>>9631

>Unrelated: I just checked and Peggy Ahwesh's short Strange Weather (1993) no longer is on Vimeo..

https://vimeo.com/57010790

Password protected, that stinks. Now I want to watch this


 No.9954

File: f4dad99add5e4d9⋯.mp4 (1.38 MB, 320x240, 4:3, Endless Sandwich.mp4)

Did the OP pictures disappear in the last day? I could have sworn there were just there


 No.9973

File: 7fa6a1f884218f3⋯.gif (1 MB, 255x255, 1:1, 7fa6a1f884218f33963e39e5df….gif)


 No.9974

>>9954

Yah it did. It's even gone in the catalog.


 No.9977

File: ea83f21912fbb9b⋯.gif (866.45 KB, 540x387, 60:43, already happened.gif)

>>9954

The second one just came back

Strange


 No.9990

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peter campus - three transitions


 No.10020

File: 37b72ed14da4003⋯.jpeg (501.9 KB, 1536x2048, 3:4, C2L2QAPWEAA3AoR.jpg_large.jpeg)

>>9990

That's pretty wicked stuff, especially considering it's 1971.

Did Peter Campus end up having a career or was this his 15 minutes in the spotlight?


 No.10032

File: 8c45b5751f40c41⋯.webm (6.32 MB, 960x540, 16:9, Peter Campus on Three Tra….webm)

>>10020

he kept making videos, he still does in fact

but three transitions remains his most famous work


 No.10047

File: 92ec45a2519386c⋯.gif (670.97 KB, 1088x768, 17:12, b45d2be56b5d70b06c0c1db445….gif)

>>8956

Testing a repost of one OP image. Maybe this will revive it


 No.10050

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>>10032

I like it a lot. Some of those new wave American guys in the 60s and 70s we're pretty bad ass.

Here's the original gif from the OP post


 No.10051

File: 2645acb90350ab1⋯.gif (431.44 KB, 300x100, 3:1, tv.gif)

>>10050

Weird it didn't post so here's a back up


 No.10414

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this is a nice one

Title: Shift / Director: Toshio Matsumoto / Year: 1982 / Music: Yasuke Inagaki


 No.10436

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>>9069

Face of post-modernism.

aka

pure hipster garbage


 No.10491

Any good video art film festivals?


 No.10512

File: d81884f49387ea4⋯.jpg (205.22 KB, 700x420, 5:3, Baier-6525 - Attac_on_Agen….jpg)

https://transmediale.de/ - "transmediale is a Berlin-based festival and year-round project that draws out new connections between art, culture, and technology. All activities of transmediale aim at fostering a critical understanding of contemporary culture and politics as saturated by media technologies."

http://www.tenderpixel.com/ - "Tenderpixel is a contemporary art gallery in Central London. We showcase a diversity of creative positions within culture, economy and politics. We are committed to the professional development of emerging and mid career artists through a programme of curated exhibitions and events as well as research based solo presentations in London and abroad."

http://www.lovebytes.org.uk/ - "Lovebytes is a digital arts organisation based in Sheffield UK. We organise an inspiring range of public events which cross the boundaries between art, design, music, technology and science, including international arts festivals, exhibitions, educational projects and workshops."

http://www.aspectmag.com/ - "The Chronicle of New Media Art" no longer updated


 No.10520

>>10512

Great post friend :)


 No.11001

File: 6ca23fb2d83885e⋯.mp4 (2.34 MB, 490x360, 49:36, Heartbeat (1973).mp4)

Was it rape?


 No.11060

>>11001

rape ;)


 No.11061

File: 9a2eb4390e7fd2c⋯.jpg (859.07 KB, 988x1024, 247:256, 1415068245004-1.jpg)

>>10512

This might sound weird but I can't convince myself to visit the top three links since Europe is so gone and their culture has eroded to a complete sjw nightmare.

The last one seems decent since they're featuring older works that haven't been perverted by marxism.


 No.11062

>>11061

Quit posting Bernini.


 No.11063

>>11062

>Bernini


 No.11074

>>11063

Sorry but I swear that looked like the Ecstasy of Saint Teresa.


 No.11405

File: 5fa2120760cdad8⋯.jpg (110.15 KB, 720x990, 8:11, 1451161420055.jpg)

Any more?


 No.11547

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primitive computer animation with a strobe effect for real impact


 No.11571

>>11547

interesting post.


 No.12266

File: 285df12b7c1ffad⋯.mp4 (14.89 MB, 468x356, 117:89, Florida.mp4)

>>9631

>I am conflicted on whether it should be categorized as video art or something else, because it is almost more of a documentary.

Jonathan Rosenbaum says it's a documentary but I'd categorize it as drama / experimental. The film has actors. There are true life elements, the most interesting parts by far, and yet I don't think that makes it a documentary. The actress tells personal stories as a character, not as herself.

Unless they were really smoking crack? I didn't think they were, but I could be wrong.


 No.12413

File: bbaa2e64434475a⋯.mp4 (15.15 MB, 680x480, 17:12, 5 Minute Romp thru the IP.mp4)


 No.12422

>>12413

Thanks, I love it.


 No.12535

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Art of Memory (1987)

Woody Vasulka


 No.12536

File: fcd3a0d7d656e15⋯.png (5.97 KB, 237x171, 79:57, knewod.png)

>>12535

There's no way this is from 1987, it looks like a webm someone would make in 2016, the video earrapes you non stop, and 20 seconds after the Hitler Speech intro we see one of the /pol/ meme sculptures. Either this guy was a time traveler or this is /pol/'s favorite movie of all time and for the past few years they've been emulating it.


 No.12537

>>12536

That was actually the Captcha I got for that post by the way so as far as things go it's confirmed, Woody Vasulka created /pol/.


 No.12538

>>12535

>13:28

>Francoist Symbol

Definitely /pol/


 No.12539

File: 2b5dcbdbc90fb93⋯.png (379.27 KB, 784x763, 112:109, executing christ.png)

File: e029060bb754131⋯.jpg (90.2 KB, 1070x1080, 107:108, Cerro de los Ángeles.jpg)

There's an amazing photo in that video. I'd never seen it before.

http://www.strangehistory.net/2011/01/03/image-executing-christ/

Also during the Spanish Civil War section, there seemed to be a gringo reading news in Spanish. I wonder what that was about?


 No.12553

>>8956

Gondola webms


 No.13988

File: b865cf207822620⋯.jpg (9.57 KB, 440x275, 8:5, STFD_Vol1.jpg)

There's a big DVD collection of video art called Surveying the First Decade. I've seen some but not nearly all of it.

http://www.vdb.org/titles/surveying-first-decade-volume-1 +

https://uloz.to/hledej?q=surveying+the+first+decade

This comprehensive anthology on the history of experimental and independent video is an essential tool for teachers, libraries, and researchers. Volumes 1 and 2 include over 16 hours of historic video on eight thematically curated programs, exploring conceptual, performance-based, image-processed, feminist, documentary and grassroots community-based genres.

Program 1: Explorations of Presence, Performance, and Audience

Performer/Audience/Mirror, Dan Graham, 1975, 22:45

Selected Works (Dog Duet, Used Car Salesman, Dog Biscuit in Glass Jar), William Wegman, 1972, 08:44

Baldessari Sings LeWitt, John Baldessari,1972, 03:38 (excerpted from 12:50)

Undertone, Vito Acconci, 1972, 09:15 (excerpted from 37:20)

Vertical Roll, Joan Jonas, 1972, 19:37

My Father, Shigeko Kubota, 1975, 14:46

Exchange, Robert Morris, 1973, 36:02

Program 2: Investigations of the Phenomenal World: Space, Sound, and Light

Black and White Tapes, Paul McCarthy, 1970-75, 06:30 (excerpted from 33:00)

Stamping In The Studio, Bruce Nauman, 1968, 05:00, (excerpted from 1:01:35)

Double Vision, Peter Campus, 1971, 14:22

Boomerang, Richard Serra with Nancy Holt, 1974, 10:27

Island Song, Charlemagne Palestine, 1976, 16:02

Cycles of 3s and 7s, Tony Conrad, 1976, 02:51 (excerpted from 30:54)

The Children's Tapes, Terry Fox, 1974, 29:36

Soundings, Gary Hill, 1979, 17:41

Lightning, Paul and Marlene Kos, 1976, 01:17

Sweet Light, Bill Viola, 1977, 09:07

Program 3: Approaching Narrative: "There are Problems to be Solved"

The Red Tapes Part II, Vito Acconci, 1976, 57:55

Out of the Body Travel, Richard Foreman, 1976, 23:50 (excerpted from 42:00)

The Continuing Story of Carel and Ferd, Arthur Ginsberg and Video Free America, 1972-75, 33:15 (excerpted from 1:00:00)

Program 4: Gendered Confrontations

Art Herstory, Hermine Freed, 1974, 14:49 (excerpted from 22:00)

Female Sensibility, Lynda Benglis, 1973, 13:05

Ama L'Uomo Tuo (Always Love Your Man), Cara DeVito, 1975, 18:52

The Mom Tapes, Ilene Segalove, 1974-78, 03:39 (excerpted from 26:52)

Primal Scenes, Linda Montano, 1980, 09:52

Nun and Deviant, Nancy Angelo, 1976, 14:08 (excerpted from 20:28)

Vital Statistics of a Citizen, Simply Obtained, Martha Rosler, 1977, 39:16


 No.13989

File: f3dc4af714ee01c⋯.jpg (9.77 KB, 440x279, 440:279, STFD_Vol2.jpg)

>>13988

http://www.vdb.org/titles/surveying-first-decade-volume-2

Program 5: Performance of Video-Imaging Tools

Calligrams, Steina and Woody Vasulka, 1970, 04:00 (excerpted from 12:00)

Illuminatin' Sweeney, Skip Sweeney, 1975, 05:00, (excerpted from 28:38)

Video Weavings, Stephen Beck, 1976, 04:06 (excerpted from 28:00)

Five-minute Romp through the IP, Dan Sandin, 1973, 06:34

Triangle in Front of Square in Front of Circle in Front of Triangle, Dan Sandin, 1973, 01:40

Video-Taping, Ernest Gusella, 1974, 02:41

Exquisite Corpse, Ernest Gusella, 1978, 08:23

Einstine, Eric Siegel, 1968, 05:22

General Motors, Phil Morton, 1976, 10:25 (excerpted from 1:00:00)

Merce by Merce by Paik, Nam June Paik, 1978, 27:27

Crossings and Meetings, Ed Emshwiller, 1974, 04:04 (excerpted from 27:33)

Complex Wave Forms, Ralph Hocking, 1977, 04:11 (excerpted from 05:00)

Pictures of the Lost, Barbara Buckner, 1978, 08:04 (excerpted from 23:00)

Video Locomotion (man performing forward hand leap), Peer Bode, 1978, 04:56

Music on Triggering Surfaces, Peer Bode, 1978, 03:06

C-Trend, Woody Vasulka, 1974, 07:19 (excerpted from 09:00)

Switch! Monitor! Drift!, Steina Vasulka, 1976, 03:48

Program 6: Decentralized Communications Projects

Mayday Realtime, David Cort and Mary Curtis Ratcliff, 1971, 10:27 (excerpted from 1:00:00)

People's Video Theater (Women's Liberation March NYC, Gay Pride March NYC, Young Lords Occupy Manhattan Church, Native American Action at Plymouth Rock), People's Video Theatre (Elliot Glass and Ken Marsh), 1970-72, 28:22 (excerpts)

Participation, Steina and Woody Vasulka, 1969-71, 04:37 (excerpted from 30:00)

First Transmission of ACTV, George Stoney and Austin Community Television (ACTV), 1972, 04:31 (excerpted from 8:00)

Jonesboro Storytelling Festival: Kathryn Windham Telling Ghost Stories (The Jumbo Light), Broadside TV , 1974, 05:22

The Politics of Intimacy, Julie Gustafson, 1974, 09:26 (excerpted from 52:20)

Attica Interviews, Portable Channel, 1971, 08:44 (excerpted from 30:00)

Queen Mother Moore Speech at Greenhaven Prison, People's Communications Network, 1973, 17:41 (excerpted from 1:03:00)

The Laughing Alligator, Juan Downey, 1979, 26:30

Program 7: Critiques of Art and Media as Commodity and Spectacle

Eternal Frame, Ant Farm and T.R.Uthco, 1976, 22:19

Television Delivers People, Richard Serra and Carlotta Fay Schoolman, 1973, 05:55

The Business of Local News, University Community Video--Minneapolis, 1974, 16:57 (excerpted from 25:00)

Proto Media Primer, Paul Ryan and Raindance Corporation, 1970, 14:42

About Media, Anthony Ramos, 1977, 15:36 (excerpted from 26:00)

Fifty Wonderful Years, Optic Nerve, 1973, 25:59

Technology /Transformation: Wonder Woman, Dara Birnbaum, 1978, 05:25

Program 8: Independents Address TV Audiences

Healthcare: Your Money or Your Life, Downtown Community TV (DCTV), 1977, 57:00

The Ruling Classroom, Peter Bull and Alex Gibney , 1979-80, 57:38

Four More Years, Top Value Television (TVTV), 1972, 1:00:15


 No.14024

>>13988

Looks nice, I'll watch program 1 and post thoughts maybe


 No.14027

File: 890d910ddbb4b38⋯.jpg (65.78 KB, 481x360, 481:360, ee78e4141f8cc4a504c93ade1b….jpg)

>>14024

Cool. In case anyone missed it above I posted a link with most of these rarities in mkv format.

https://uloz.to/hledej?q=surveying+the+first+decade

When I checked the torrent sites there are only the full DVDs.

Surrealmoviez had better mkv links (one download per program) but that site seems to be gone for good.


 No.14040

File: 933cbe0a31c2116⋯.jpg (63.11 KB, 704x480, 22:15, Surveying_The_First_Decade….jpg)

File: 6a0fc2bc55fdf1d⋯.jpg (43.75 KB, 708x464, 177:116, Surveying_The_First_Decade….jpg)

File: aafc99f8fa0b73a⋯.mp4 (1.06 MB, 672x472, 84:59, Vertical Roll.mp4)

File: e3552a6b44210c2⋯.jpg (51.5 KB, 708x480, 59:40, Surveying_The_First_Decade….jpg)

File: 35697e7f30f803a⋯.jpg (32.97 KB, 704x480, 22:15, Surveying_The_First_Decade….jpg)

I watched some of Program 1 last night.

https://uloz.to/!dnUPqDJRj/p1-rar

Vertical Roll (1972) - Essential video art, possibly the best of the bunch. I knew about this one but I'd never watched all of it. A problem unique to video - slipping vertical hold - proves to be fertile ground for experimentation. Simple, effective, memorable. I loved it.

Undertone (1972) - The worst of what I watched. A creepy sadsack sits at a table, talking to the camera while rubbing his legs (hidden from view). He imagines there's a woman under the table rubbing his legs, running her hands up his thighs. Up his thighs and caressing them. Is he getting off on this? Later he imagines there's no woman. Then he imagines there's a woman again. This continues for 9 minutes. Maybe he's vocalizing the implications of his movements/posture, but the result is like watching a lonely old man having phone sex with himself. The complete video is 37 minutes and it must be pure hell.




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