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Ya'll need Mises.

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Seriously, who the fuck cares about the liberty of those who don't want it?

In the end a decently informed libertarian knows more about socialism than socialists themselves, but unlike socialists he also knows about capitalism too. This means that you, as a libertarian, can easily become a big defender and promoter of socialism.

Then with all those books/speaking/tv royalties/politics money, you can buy whatever you want, maybe even some land somewhere where you can build a libertarian utopia, if you still believe in it. But why buying land? You could just use your influence in the State to wage war and conquer lands for yourself. Or buy some cocaine and some prostitutes, who cares? Just enjoy the fruit of those cucks who want you to rule over them.

Honestly, it's a complete waste of time trying to let people know about the advantages and the morality of liberty. These people refuse liberty for themselves and others. Marx and associates gave us an exceptional tool to pilot the masses to work for our personal interests. Voluntary slavery. Think about it: if you were to cause suffering among the people with your socialist policies, it would be their choice. You would basically make socialist suffer while you run all the way to the (swiss) bank with their money. It's them who decided to vote for you, after you promised to put their neighboors down in order to make them all equal. They wanted evil, you just capitalized on it.

Of course there will be some innocent victims, but who really cares? It's nothing compared to the enormous amount of statists that will suffer. You will make them poor slowly, day after day. A taste of their own medicine.

I don't know about you, but I'm gonna join the local social-democratic party today.




Any libertarian invested enough in his belief systems has seen too far into the looking glass and can't turn back. You can't go from (true) libertarian to another ideology at the snap of the fingers even if you want to. You can't just reprogram a flash drive after you've wiped the contents more than the intended limit in the pursuit of knowledge.


Normalcattle don't want freedom, it's true. If you don't fight for it you'll be pressed into bondage, though. It's necessary to maximize freedom as a self defense measure. Unless you're already powerful I guess, then do as thou wilt et all.



I want to go back, I can't stand it anymore.



I have no grand expectations of changing the whole world. I make my arguments and focus on my own life and freedom. People who care about Liberty care enough to seek it out on their own. You don't have to comb the world for them.


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>I want to go back, I can't stand it anymore.


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Have you ever stood and stared at it, marveled at it's beauty, it's genius? Billions of people just living out their lives, oblivious. Did you know that the first socialist government was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered. Where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed that we lacked the dialectics to describe your perfect world. But I believe that as a species, human beings define their reality through misery and suffering. The perfect world would be a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why socialism was redesigned to Keynesianism, the peak of your civilization. I say your civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization which is of course what this is all about. Evolution, Anon, evolution, like the dinosaur. Look out that window. You had your time. The future is our world. The future is our time.



If you hide your head in sand, the robber will just cut off your ass instead. I get it that being born a tax cattle is kinda gloomy, but if you know the problem you can start working on the solution, while the blissful turkey gets is neck cut the Gibsgiving day.


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Don't we all, anon?



I don't. I was definitely less miserable when I was bluepilled, but I wouldn't go back to that state for a second. Knowledge isn't the kind of burden I'm interested in giving up.


1. The enslavement is not voluntary, and had it been voluntary (with the homesteading principle as the basis for determining whose consent is required, of course), we wouldn't be principally against it. While most statists don't want freedom, and quiver when we talk about it, they would enjoy freedom.

2. There is no guarantee that I would be the one at the top. And, even if that were guaranteed, like I'd have second thoughts in going back to malthusian times in exchange for me becoming king, the people at the top under socialism will fare worse than the ones at the bottom in ancapistan in the long run.

3. I value the satisfaction of people around me, so losing that value would be a problem as well.



We all know there is only one form of socialism that actually works.


>Marx and associates gave us an exceptional tool to pilot the masses to work for our personal interests. Voluntary slavery.

Either you believe in liberty, or you don't.






If everyone becomes a parasite, then there is nobody left to leech off.

Cue sudden traitors discovered and executed by the millions. You think the Great Purge just happened out of the blue?



I don't. Only humans should have freedom, normalfags can't even make use of it.



I agree with this sentiment. That's exactly why I advocate for infinite freedom. Normalfags will always find chains to bind them. The problem is when they find chains to bind you, too.



> normalfags can't even make use of it.

because they are not pedos like you?



wow you proved him right



problem is that right now there is no way to get to infinite freedom. The sanest course of action is to understand how the State works and try to pilot it to get closer to freedom.

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