/asatru/ - Asatru / Heathenry / Paganism

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>>3842

>>9930

I just meant some form of monster battling, kids love that shit. Could be anything including Ni-No-Kuni or Yo-Kai watch.

Yo-Kai watch itself being a celebration of Japanese mythology, I was wondering if we could have something similar. Granted Gen VI Pokemon are based on creatures from Norse mythology.

>>9932

I'm just tired of the pokemon formula, man.

But on thinking about it, the idea would be good to attract kids.

If evangelicals learned about it, the butthurt would flow

>>9959

>Yo-Kai Watch

I forgot about that. Yeah, something like that would be interesting.

But which pokemon are based on Norse legend?

The legendaries from VI?

>>9961

As far as legendaries go, it's only the main three, meaning Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zyguard. I found that Skiddo/Gogoat, Honedge, and Klefki also have some origins based in Norse legend or tradition, but it seems mostly speculative.

>>9745

This please.

>>10008

I bought a few titles by Dmitry Kushnir from amazon for a few bucks on a whim due to the lack of english material… But I can't tell if they're basically fanfiction or not as the reading to be done on the matter in any language I can read is so sparse.

I'm in a negative feedback loop of not knowing anything so everything seems suspect so I don't know anything.

Just recently stumbled upon a treasure trove of rare pdfs, and taking my time downloading and sorting through them to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Till then, I've gone ahead and uploaded some of the more exciting no-brainers for y'all to enjoy:

All of these are In the "Germanic-Scandinavian-Anglo-Saxon Heathenry" subfolder:

Folder - Books by Varg Vikernes -

Contents - Sorcery and Religion in Ancient Scandinavia by Varg Vikernes

Folder - Way of the Heathen

Contents - Way of the Heathen by Garman Lord

Folder - Elves, Wights and Trolls

Contents - Elves, Wights and Trolls: Studies Toward the Practice of Germanic Heathenry Vol 1 by Kveldulf Gundarsson

Folder - Germanic Heathenry A Practical Guide

Contents - Germanic Heathenry: A Practical Guide by James Hjuka Coulter

Folder- Roles of the Northern Goddess

Contents - Roles of the Northern Goddess by H.R. Ellis Davidson

Folder - The Well and the Tree

Contents - The Well and the Tree by Paul Bauschatz

And finally, thanks to this wonderful poster >>10012 Summoning the Gods by Collin Cleary is now in the folder "Summoning the Gods."

There's quite a bit more for me to download and sort through, so it's going to take me Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>9996

Currently still in the process of scanning it in, so don't worry, it's coming!

>>10003

>You're still a cultural Christian

I think that hits home the most, but I think we should clarify on what we mean by real.

We shouldn't be hasty to say that Thor is a man with a red beard riding around in a chariot pulled by two goats named Teeth-Gnasher and Teeth-Grinder.

But, just like Christians don't believe Yahweh is literally an old, bearded man in the sky, we shouldn't be held to the same ultra-literal standard.

Doesn't mean the Aesir aren't real, it's attributes given them to distinguish them and accentuate their governance.

Much like Yahweh was depicted as violent, since he's a god of war, after all.

Also, you seem to be a good poster.

I'll have to keep an eye out for you, Floki.

>>10010

>Until we can set up a "village" style community, with a chieftan, thingmen and a group of gothi

Even a lawspeaker?

I think you are looking for the wrong thing.

Bind runes were made up by an icelandic jewelry seller and the nine noble virtues are just interpretations of the hávámal. Try focusing on the runes themself and casting them

>>9999

>Bind runes were made up by an icelandic jewelry seller

But aren't there actual rune carvings that involve combinations of runes? Unless I'm mistaken.

>>6938

Bloodaxe are you up to traveling to Virginia to meet the Wolves of Vinland in 2018-19? I'm going sometime around then but I have to save money first and I'd like to travel with a fellow heathen. I'm in a state near NM at the moment.

>>9887

I had an interest maybe. Will let you know.

I really do want to seek glory in the war for Europa but what would I even do?I was the OP of the "asatru villages" thread, and now I've gotten some personal things in order and returned to the path. Where can we go? Are we to learn all the languages of Central/Western/Northern Europe? Should we comply with the local laws in order to establish ourselves? How do we deal with the cuck laws?

In five years if tensions are still high we could perhaps form vigilante urban patrols, but do we attack the cuck police who will fight us? We must re establish our planning.

>>6938

Why ashamed? America is just a pan-European colony. England is a Germanic colony in Britain, Iceland is just a (Hiberno-)Norse colony. Fuck it, most of the "Germanic mainland" is land that early Germanic people moved into, displacing/absorbing the Celts that were already there. Are all Germanic people in the world, in America, England, Australia, Iceland, Germany, Austria, to all cram themselves into Denmark and southern Sweden because that's the proto-Germanic Ur-Heimat? No, that's silly. You're entirely right, man. You are who you are, no matter where you go.

>>9955

Regarding language, let's face it, English is ubiquitous enough, and England itself is still part of mother Europe, but getting "good enough" in whatever local language shouldn't be too hard for people, in honesty. They'd be learning another Germanic language, so it should be easier than learning something radically different. German, for example, grammar might be harder than English grammar, but it'll come more easily than learning Mandarin or Arabic, I'm sure. Regarding the rest of your concerns, perhaps it all deserves its own thread. I've spoken with someone from here about that rough idea and think that "asatru villages", as you put it, might not be the best way to win a war for Europa. Maybe make a "war for Europa" thread to get broader discussion, but maybe look at the "how do we get more people" thread and look at engaging some discussion on Tox.

>>9955

I was you co-pilot in that thread, welcome back.

>Are we to learn all the languages of Central/Western/Northern Europe?

Languages are easy. It requires proximity to, and assistance by, native speakers to SOUND like a native speaker… but other than that it is a cakewalk if you mentally orient yourself correctly. This was the intuitive process I've used my whole life to snap up vocabulary and pronunciation but I saw this video that really codifies it nicely. In fact had I ever been "educated" in languages I'd be so much worse at learning and speaking them.

>Where can we go? Are we to learn all the languages of Central/Western/Northern Europe? Should we comply with the local laws in order to establish ourselves? How do we deal with the cuck laws?

Didn't we cover all of this? Nothing, legally has changed in regards to anything. You can bump that thread if you like if you can be active in it; it was mostly you and I anyway. Or, if you prefer we've been mobilising people in tox.

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>>9974

I tend to agree with other anons that naming yourself wouldn't be right.

At least let your folk assembly grant you a new name (preferably close to your first name's meaning).

>>9974

This. Where a lot of christians miss the boat on being "traditional" is they conflate "(grand)parents" with "ancestors".

You seek the honor your ancestors while recognising somewhere along the line there's a divide past which some of them were engaging in a mistake and dishonoring their ancestors by doing so. What divides us from most of the "traditional christians" is that our loyalty is to ultimate tradition and ancestry… the most prominent, longest running and socially successful brand that can be found amongst the most of those who came before. Like modernists they cling to simply the newest tradition, and shriek and cry in its defense should their (last) millennial fad be tugged at. They love their two thousand years, but forget rome existed about that long, those gods at least two thousand years before that, and then the mycene gods at least another thousand before THAT if not also two. In other words, from what we can find the gods that came before christ are at least as old in general form (if not in detail) as the christians claim the entire world is and one can find the beginnings of the archetypes in the types of symbols used in neolithic ukraine/caucasia. In other words, you have gods about 6-10 thousand years old on a "6 thousand year old" earth. :^)

Their claims to tradition and being owed elder respect are then completely laughable. "Think of your last 15-20 ancestors and toss out the 1500-2000 before them in their favour! They're the most recent so they obviously have to be better! It's CURRENT YEAR, A.D.!" cries the adherent to the first form of hipster leftism. One has to picture an american who knows nothing of culture but (((blue jeans))) and (((television))) and nothing of his ancestors beyond his last 3-6 generations saying that, christian tradition being the only one he or she knows. No disrespect to any american heathens, but I'm you know what I mean by "that kind".

>>9993

This - Christians say "hurr your ancestors were Christian!" but only a small fraction were ever Christian in the grand scheme of things. Vastly more were Germanic polytheists, and vastly more still practised the traditions which Germanic polytheism organically evolved from.

Anyway, I think that we should aim to have Germanic names, but equally dropping names from your parents is kind of sad. I think the compromise I've settled upon being likely to enact at some point is simply taking extra names, dropping none; going from [first name] [middle name] [surname] to [first name] [three middle names] [surname], following >>9978's suggestion of preferably being named by people close to you rather than yourself, as long as they understand the need for a specific origin for the name. Keeping the closest meaning possible, too, is preferable.

An idea I had regarding shunting a surname forward to be a middle name while taking a new surname is that this is perhaps most appropriately done upon marriage, my idea being that you and your wife together settle on a new identity for your "new family line", as you're likely to be raising your children differently to how you were raised yourself.

In what manner does the heathen prayer and sacrifice?

Should he only wait until high festivals to offer sacrifice?

>>9970

>In what manner does the heathen prayer and sacrifice?

Sacrifice and interaction isn't limited to the gods, nor is it particularly grandiose or high-sacred as it is commonly depicted. In fact in modern practice it's a bit of a tainted misnomer. It doesn't always involve monumental spillings of blood or painful tithes. In fact something as simple as tossing your compost bin in the forest instead of the compost pit a few times a year would be a nice sacrifice.

Or simply leaving an apple from your lunch in the forest after a peaceful hike as a gesture of good will to the various spirits is a particularly heathen thing to do. Or leaving a dram of mead for the gnomes/elves after a good gardening year. Or most important regularly visiting with and leaving items for the ancestors. These sorts of things are just as much sacrificial as offering a strong horse to Odin or the like. I hammer on this specifically because most people think of sacrifice in the judeo-christian way.

Do I just show up on christmas, give you a single gift, and wait another year to see you? You live imminently amongst your ancestors and various nonhuman spirits here on midgard even more than amongst the gods in asgard yet most people forget them in favor of a few-times-a-year interactions with the gods and only the gods. You can see the silliness after thinking about it as an original heathen would.

>Should he only wait until high festivals to offer sacrifice?

Not at all. Though it's nice to take part in festivals for the sake of community and recognition of important days or events when the energy is just right.

>>9971

Thanks for clarification, anon.

>>9971

>Or most important regularly visiting with and leaving items for the ancestors.

I assume that's for visiting family cemeteries and burial mounds?

If so, what if the ancestors buried there were all Christian or something?

And what about specific prayers?

Do we read out of the Havamal and stuff? Or is it more like a conversation with the ancestors and gods?

If so, are there set prayers that our ancestors prayed?

Concerning the afterlife, I know earlier questions were posed and answered, but I'm still somewhat conflicted.

It's recorded that in addition to Odin and Freya having halls, Thor has his own, too.

Is there any source that says if a person is devoted to a particular god/goddess, they might join them in their hall in asgard upon death (even if they don't die in battle)?

>>9957

Not being perceived as a dead or quasi-dead board so that we have more presence, prestige and influence, and also attract new members by being an exciting and active place that matters.

>>9966

Did you just say that we need to attract more traffic so that we can attract more traffic?

>>9992

Ummm…. duh. We attract more traffic; our board ranking goes up; we get noticed more; which brings more traffic; which makes our board ranking go up more; which gets us noticed even more; which attracts more traffic…

In other words, a common sense snowball effect.

Currently our board is in the top 90 of the board list. If you look at the board list on the front page, you have to click "Displaying results 1 through 50 out of 9571. Click to load more" before you even see our page near the bottom of the next group. Imagine how much our traffic would increase if we were at least in the top 50 and a visitor to the site did not even have to click at all to see our board.

Honestly, we at least owe it to ourselves to get up past some of those top 50 boards for the sake of decency. For fuck's sake, stuff like Zoophilia and Adult Baby Diaper lover are up there.

>>9987

Happy Ostara, friend.

I'm probably going to pour out some wine for the gods tomorrow don't get too fussy, I don't have any mead.

I don't have any pendants or statues yet, so I'll probably spend some time outside in nature.

>>9986

Sounds good. But what if I'm under the age to drink? (19 atm).

>>9989

Work with what you can.

Remember, the gods don't need you to be a groveling slave. You're their kinsman.

If you offer anything freely without being stingy, they'll smile upon you.

>>9987

that's an awesome picture man, do you happen to know the artist?

Before christians and pagans here flip their shit over this, watch this video essay.

Hitler wasn't a christian either. He was more of a jeffersonian deist.

>>9925

"No he didn't hate LARPers and magic, or no he didn't like Pagans?

I've been reading Goodrick-Clarke and the story he tells — which is reasonably justified by the available evidence — is the same one we have always known. Hitler was neither some frothing, bible-thumping slavelike Christian cartoon, nor was he particularly dedicated to study of the native German faith and mythology. He was a nationalist who put the German people first and worked pragmatically with groups who could help him to unite Germans. The origins of the National Socialist movement are firmly within the völkisch revival of the early 20th century, with absolutely no documented connection to German Christian movements, but Hitler himself was not directly associated with any of the less mainstream occult or polytheist groups.

The stories of him studying the Germanic occult are somewhat dubious, however, there are several independent such accounts while there are zero accounts of him habitually attending church.

Senate Candidate from Florida Admits to Sacrificing a Goat, Drinking Its Blood

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/05/senate-candidate-florida-admits-sacrificing-goat-drinking-blood/

>>8199

>On an unrelated note, do you guys think it

>should be common practice (albeit not

>forced) to memorize all the runes and rune

>poems? At least for our gothI and Vitki

Yes. I don't plan on being either of those things, but I' in the process of memorizing them myself. Our faith is one that has been in a state of "stasis" for so long, none of s can afford to be ignorant about any aspect. There is no room for passiveness in Asatru as you see in other faiths.

So how exactly does one utilize the runes?

Do you just slap one on to something for the desired effect? Is it possible to link certain ones together for certain things?

If so, how does one know which ones to use?

Sorry for all the questions.

>>9898

I would also like to know. Hopefully someone here knows and we won't have to bother /fringe/

>>9898

You can basically spend the rest of your life figuring out the answer to that question.

>Do you just slap one on to something for the desired effect?

There's a famous story about someone who slapped a ᚦ onto something for a desired effect and got the opposite.

>Is it possible to link certain ones together for certain things?

Yes, it is called a bindrune.

>If so, how does one know which ones to use?

Veiztu hvé rísta skal?

Veiztu hvé ráða skal?

Veiztu hvé fá skal?

Veiztu hvé freista skal?

Veiztu hvé biðja skal?

Veiztu hvé blóta skal?

Veiztu hvé senda skal?

Veiztu hvé sóa skal?

New episode tonite fuckerino fams

New episode of vikings

http://www.couchtuner.ag/2016/03/vikings-season-4-episode-5-promised/

That's the website i stream it on. Lets see how degenerate they can make the future episodes.

Yeah the kikery is on fucking point. Lagertha killed a man and had her feminist warriors help her become the earl again and that gook is apparently the daughter of the fucking emperor of China…

>>9907

I can deal with her killing the guy to be honest. She promised him ages ago that she'd do it, he understood and went along with everything anyway. The GRRRRL POWER shieldmaidens make me cringe every time though, fuck.