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File: 1422949216660.jpg (48.04 KB, 610x458, 305:229, china.jpg)

 No.3065

I've seen dozens of Japanese films but very few from China. It seems like Chinese films are not as widely known, especially if you don't count Hong Kong.

Anyway, which films do you like from China? Given the size of their country, why isn't their cinema more popular internationally?

 No.3066

The Goddess(1934) by Yonggang Wu
Spring in a Small Town(1948) by Mu Fei
Still Life(2006) by Jia Zhangke

 No.3069

Jia Zhangke (Platform) and Wang Bing (Tie Xie Qu) are pretty good.

 No.3081

>>3065
their films are currently playing a huge part in cinematographic history. lol.

 No.3082

>>3081
I don't quite understand how something can currently play a part in history?

 No.3085

what is this huge influence of Chinese films on cinematography?
please give some examples.

 No.7746

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Yimou Zhang is a very popular Chinese director (I'm sure many already know him here) who was responsible for the fantastic 2008 Olympic ceremonies

http://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/zhang-yimous-gold-medal

I've seen his film Huo zhe AKA To Live which follows a Chinese family and Chinese society from the 1940s to recent times. It's easy to forget just how underdeveloped the country was throughout much of 20th century.

The film was banned for its mild criticism of the Chinese gov't, so that aspect is interesting to watch. Other than that it's an effective drama with straightforward storytelling.


 No.7752

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>>7746

Zhang is great

>>3065

China's got some great films about the second Sino-Japanese war, and Japans occupation of Nanjing- an aspect of WW2 that doesn't get nearly enough attention imo

Check out 'The Flowers of War' and 'Nanjing: City of Life and Death' by Chuan Lu, this one especially because the narrative follows a Chinese and Japanese perspective of the occupation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1aLFfk_kqY


 No.7753

>>3065

and to answer your last question:

>Communism

Given that Ghostbusters isn't allowed to screen in the country (Lucky them) because it "promotes cults and superstition" I'd say the government is cautious of any film that could potentially generate free thought or political unrest


 No.7799

>>7753

Ghostbusters is a cancerous piece of shit though, it's good that they banned it. I'm pretty sure that even if it was shown in Chinese cinemas no one would have gone to see it.


 No.7804

>>7799

too right

hence me saying lucky them


 No.7808

>>7752

> City of Life and Death

Yeah that one looks essential >>6876


 No.8778

Ashes of time looks beautiful but I can't find the original version.


 No.8779

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 No.8780

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I found a much better link

http://uptobox.com/9tn88m0x0lfz

it's in this folder which has some other good stuff

http://uptobox.com/users/oblio/594396/tos.html


 No.8829

A Brighter Summer Day

Black coal thin ice

The East Is Red

The Bride with White Hair

Yi Yi

sent down girl xiu xiu

Here is Cock and Bull

mellenium mambo

drug war

raise the red lantern

heat of the sun

most distant course

Durian Durian

rebels of the neon god

here then

night train


 No.8848

>>8829

A few of these are Taiwanese, which is not technically Chinese.


 No.8849

File: d3dabb334b0471b⋯.jpeg (8.01 KB, 259x194, 259:194, index.jpeg)

>>8829

>mellenium mambo


 No.8864

>>8780

thanks i've never see this


 No.10503

Bump


 No.10546

I recently watched two Chinese movies that I enjoyed:

-Cold War (2012)

-Three (2016)


 No.10547

>>3065

Another answer to the last question with relation to >>7753 is that there is often an amount of pro-China propaganda one way or another in their films which, at least to me, are heavily negative aspects. It's similarly noticeable in Hollywood films trying to cash in on the Chinese audience. In Hollywood's case, at least, it's an easier way to convince the Chinese government to allow their film into their whitelist of allowed films.

Zhang Yimou was mentioned here. I personally enjoyed Hero (2002) for the most part until it hit heavily with the pro-China message.


 No.10548

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>>10547

> I personally enjoyed Hero (2002) for the most part until it hit heavily with the pro-China message.

I liked it too but I forgot about the Pro-China aspect. Or I didn't think to notice that at the time. I only saw it when it was released.


 No.13804

File: b785ae6c1d2dbc5⋯.jpg (296.26 KB, 810x1200, 27:40, shadow_poster.jpg)

Has gorgeous visuals, great action scenes, a cohesive theme, and it makes for a pretty tense thriller, I'd say it's his best work yet. Has anyone else here seen it yet? If not, here's a magnet (has both Chinese and English subtitles)

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:B1D1BD7B655054404D234055398FB079D2881C12


 No.13805

>>13804

Can someone stop this fella to spam this shitty movie all time? Jesus, at this point it's just embarrasing.


 No.13809

>>13805

The thread was removed and reposted here by the mods, calm down.


 No.13811

>>13809

This site has mods, first news, probably Tarkovsky lovers.


 No.13846

>>13811

Fresh from the boat aren't we.

I'll have to say i don't remember this thread, I got stuck in the chink cinema for a year now, really cool stuff but they are very contrasting.

The Mainland Chinese industry is an actually underrated one because not a lot came out that wasn't outright propaganda because most talent ran away to Hong Kong. In my opinion China will not reach Hong Kong's level of success, because in terms of money i think even Jackie Chan and Jet Li made more bank with DVD/VHS sales than their brand of fantasy CGI fests with band members instead of actors. And in terms of artistic merit, i think HK had enough liberty and funds to let someone go nuts every once in a while.

>>8848

Technically speaking Taiwan is the original Republic of China in exile after the gommies did their purges, as their political lineage is the direct one the monarchy/dinasty abdicated to (although the chinese invaded and replaced the original natives in a stone cold way here, you have been warned Canada)

But after all even with the Hong Kong takeover, it wasn't until 2004 or 2005 that Red China was producing movies constantly because earlier the works were Hong Kong products in terms of everything except the final papers that needed government seals and/or changing the ending. An exception would probably be >>10548 which had an egregious pro-China ending (not historical either) which even made Jet Li pull a political stunt to escape from the Bureau. Other than that the main cast was full of HK veterans and/or dissidents aside from Yimou.

Also >>8780 is full non-red china, and one of the few times a remaster beats the original by a mile.


 No.13871

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I think Winter of Three Hairs looks interesting as an early example of Chinese cinema. But I wish I could find a better version of it. Every site seems to have the same rip, bad video quality but (strangely) surround sound audio.

https://hawkmenblues.blogspot.com/2014/12/san-mao-liu-lang-ji-gong-yan-ming-zhao.html

Spring in a Small Town is another well-known Chinese film of the 1940s, the title seems to indicate a new beginning after WWII but I never checked if that's what the story is really about. I saw part if it last year. The subs gradually went out of sync so I stopped. I remember noticing the acting was unusually posed with characters making robotic movements and pauses.


 No.13879

File: d8feae7165dbf80⋯.png (594.59 KB, 992x546, 496:273, jgyjq.png)

Does anyone have a link for that martial arts thread on /tv/? It should be archived. A few months ago some guy posted brief descriptions of 50 or 100 of his favorites. People told him to post here instead to make it easier to find. Well now I need to find it.


 No.13906

>>13879

I'm coincidentally doing a clean image of his list, i forgot to achieve it but i still had the tab open so i half-ass saved what i could, fortunately all the thread.

Started doing it but somewhat forgot about it in the holidays, British Hong Kong anon right? he had some controversial opinions but his work is highly appreciated nonetheless.


 No.13907

>>13906

Do you know the number of the first post, or the general date when it was posted? 8chan should have archived the text at minimum, probably most of the embeds too.


 No.13908

>>13907

What the hell, i'll be damned, i clicked the reference in the .pdf and it threw me right into the thread's archive

So here you go:

>https://8ch.net/tv/res/1617463.html

Honestly i didn't remember that feature, but then again i rarely visit there with a serious and stable attitude. Guess i'll finish that chart later.


 No.13909


 No.13912

File: 968dc818bae57c0⋯.jpg (19.94 KB, 378x88, 189:44, Bad Taste.jpg)

>>13908

I must have missed something. When was all the talk here about unironically liking Brakhage?

Do you think this guy has his own opinions, or did he read the Tarkovsky story and immediately agree with every word?


 No.13914

>>13912

yeah that gripe doesn't make much sense

I would have expected Tiger on the Beat somewhere on that fight scenes list. I guess the OP never came back to expand it.


 No.13915

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File: df47cecea66904a⋯.jpg (168.22 KB, 1500x511, 1500:511, d4fc5cba-7388-11e7-9a9a-a7….jpg)

https://www.scmp.com/business/article/2104540/its-fade-out-hong-kongs-film-industry-china-moves-spotlight

>It’s fade out for Hong Kong’s film industry as China moves into the spotlight

>Hong Kong produced 400 films a year in the early 90s, but that number has dropped to around 60 today


 No.13916

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>>13915

Like i wanted to post because i always sperg out with that, the mainland gommie bureau did a damn chaos in the HK industry with their guidelines and corrective orders (i did like their input on Infernal Affairs) and many talents got away in terror around 1997 or simply didn't want to work in that atmosphere (plenty returned but got trapped)

HK did a lot of stuff, but mainly their medium to low-budget movies, especially the softcore and gore ones (the famous Category III films, or Blue Films) along with cheap comedy romances are what makes the good bulk of that pre-handover number. I mean it's kind of cheating to lump the softcore flicks and made for TV tearjerkers but i guess it counts, but at some points it gave great results: cannibal cop dramas with The Untold Story, gore fu with Riki-Oh, fetish sex fu with pic related and the deep horrors of 2 men kissing and checking their own oil with Happy Together.

I know pirated movies were overly rampant but at least there was a market for everything with the movie tax, but just like South Korea, when someone wants that foreign movie tax out, bad things happen in the local medium. And what's the best way to see how good you are doing than making porn movies with wire flying kung fu masters naked in a forest with a medium orchestra playing on the background. But even if they make 60 a year, it's rare that any of those push the limits like in the 90's.

>>13912

>>13914

It's /tv/ we are talking about here, half of them only post to cause controversy.

I remember that tripfag or some other chink mentioning in another thread that Tiger on the Beat had the best chainsaw scene in a movie, i haven't seen it but that director is top notch in terms of fights.

OP implied he had a top 100 made, shame he never went back to post it, at least the names only. We can always ask in the HK board, i think they have one (or was it Taiwan?)


 No.13924

File: 9fa8033c8ec7a0a⋯.mp4 (11.54 MB, 880x476, 220:119, Tiger2.mp4)

Tiger on the Beat fight scene

>>13916

>We can always ask in the HK board, i think they have one

I remember a bunch of HK boards created at one time, but it looks like they didn't last long

>>>/hk/97


 No.13928

>>3082

because you are a faggot who can't read and doesn't understand anything


 No.13934

File: e9fa711d3cfc03c⋯.jpg (70.53 KB, 624x360, 26:15, The-36th-Chamber-of-Shaoli….jpg)

>>13924

Man, is that really Gordon Liu as a haired chainsaw-wielding loon? I need that movie

>but it looks like they didn't last long

Nevermind, the board i was thinking of was /komica/, which is a taiwanese board of seemingly anime lovers. I thought it was /hkpol/, which is also dusted.

A shame, they must be pretty chastised with the Tiananmenposting.


 No.13939

>>13928

You're literally canadian, don't embarrass yourself more and leave the thread.




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