No.590
I came upon this flick recently, by chance. I keep wondering, what's the public's deal with Beyond the Black Rainbow? It isn't nearly as bad or shallow as its reputation claims. Personally, I found it to be very enjoyable, in spite of its slow pace and all-too-known absurd plot twists. The direction and cinematography are both superb, acquiring an aesthetic display on par with arthouse cinema. Perhaps this fact led spectators to believe it would unfold a deeper meaning, even though it is, in essence, a B movie.
Has anybody in here seen it? What did you think of it?
No.1095
I liked it too because it paid homage to many films I like, such as Suspiria and even films that I dislike, such as Begotten
The biggest complaint people had with the film is that they thought it was "style over substance" which I agree with, but a film full of style and no substance isn't necessarily a bad thing. I guess it just depends on what you want to personally gain from watching films.
Anyway, here's a sub-textual analysis vid I found a few days ago (I haven't watched the vid yet so I'm not sure if it's complete rubbish):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztaZo-qsrTE No.1152
>Perhaps this fact led spectators to believe it would unfold a deeper meaning, even though it is, in essence, a B movie.
This was the mindset I had when I saw it and enjoyed it tremendously. Indeed you can see plenty of homages, ranging from stuff like Phase IV, The Andromeda Strain, Suspiria as the above poster said, and of course 2001 Space Odyssey, none of these undermining the actual film's merits. The soundtrack, for me, is what really takes the cake, however. I've always been a sucker for that kosmische, synth-based ambient from the 70's.
No.1155
The director and DP did a pretty interesting podcast interview with American Cinematographer:
http://theasc.com/site/podcasts/beyond-the-black-rainbow-norm-li-csc-panos-cosmatosIt's cool to hear what they were trying to do with the visual element, even if you're unfamiliar with all the technical minutiae of filmmaking.
No.1490
The film is extremely underrated. It has such a different way of pacing and working out with its elements than any other cinematic work of art, the only film that I can think of that could come even close to being like this one in style and sound work is 2001: a space odyssey.
Even if the story is not that great and it has some awkward moments, everything else makes up for it perfectly.
No.1627
I'll defend this movie to the death, man. It's a total callback to the golden days of arthouse sci-fi, flicks like Solaris, Phase IV (which is a great fucking movie, I'd say BtBR pays more homage to that than anything else) and 2001.
It's a picture and lights show, it's all about the spectacle. I think it also tells a really awesome story, but that's not really the focus. Cinema of attractions, man.
But seriously, everyone should watch Phase IV.
No.1628
What's up with the Phase IV original ending?
I thought they found it and even screened it, but they weren't going to release it on DVD/blu for some idiotic reason.
The video that was posted on youtube looked pretty amazing. It took the film to the next level IMO.
No.1676
>>1628I hope they go through with it as they said they would. That movie would also benefit from a proper BluRay release, it's got some amazing visuals. The 80's were full of amazing films that didn't get the reception they should've got if they had been released in this decade.
No.2270
If you're familiar with the occult stories of ancient and not so ancient times, you'll appriciate this film.
No.2299
>>2270what ancient occult references are in this film?
No.2316
>>2299gnosticism/illuminism. a heavy dose of it. just think of elena as sophia-eve hybrid coming out of the garden.
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No.2555
Anyone know where I can find a torrent for Phase IV with the restored lost ending?
Thanks
No.2556
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Last I checked most people only saw it on youtube. Someone recorded it on their phone at a semi-exclusive screening. I don't think it went any farther than that, although it's possible some fan out there made a composite using the youtube vid.
No.3222
This thread makes me happy about the future of film. It really isn't a dead medium after all.
No.3294
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Is there a specific term for films that mimic the direction, aesthetics, sound design, etc. of films of an earlier period?
No.3296
>>3294Hm, I think I've heard retro, throwback, homage or neo-
[insert genre here]A few others I can think of…
CQ, OSS 117 series (60s eurospy)
Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid, The Good German (40s noir)
Amer, Berberian Sound Studio (70s giallo)
The Artist (silent)
No.3297
>>3296Oh, and I think our current Film Club feature Ida is a similar kind of throwback to late 50s - early 60s black and white arthouse
No.3312
>>590>Perhaps this fact led spectators to believe it would unfold a deeper meaningI think the black liquid sequence is at fault there, it doesn't do a very good job of conveying what the fuck is happening there, making it more mysterious than intended. Still, I liked the movie very much solely because of its visuals and the soundtrack, the Sentionaut scene is the best fusion of both.
No.3315
>>3312I listened to a few podcast interviews with the director. He says he cut elements from the screenplay to make it more ambiguous.
I think it probably helped the movie attract more of an audience since not everything was spelled out.
No.3463
What is the therapist dying so suddenly at the end of the film supposed to represent? And what's the significance of the "Devil's Teardrop?"
No.3469
>>3463I think the director said he wanted to subvert the horror movie trope where
it takes forever to kill the monster.I don't really know the answer to your second question. The name sounds like a type of acid to me.