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Ya'll need Mises.

File: 3d04793d039c318⋯.jpg (58.66 KB, 932x519, 932:519, happy merchant ancap flag.jpg)

 No.98279

"The Anglo is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him an individualist and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is …"

 No.98281

File: a99d72bfdd186a2⋯.jpg (88.02 KB, 805x1320, 161:264, 1550539455617.jpg)

what was that?


 No.98292

"The NEETsoc is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him an leftist and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is …"


 No.98301

>>98281

Is this some cosplay from that Individualist comic?


 No.98305

>>98281

Is that a new gender sign on his staff?


 No.99967

>>98279

wtf does individualism or anarcho-capitalism has to do with Jews?


 No.99974

File: 1bcbf79132ce858⋯.png (236.4 KB, 402x482, 201:241, 1399834333337392171.png)


 No.99976

File: dfe5703a1b68703⋯.jpg (74.98 KB, 889x849, 889:849, Y5tpLSR.jpg)

Call me an indecisive centrist but I think anyone who rigidly defines themselves as an individualist or a collectivism is missing the point. A successful system draws on the strengths of both individual ingenuity and collective collaboration.


 No.99981

File: 8bb850d8b5d5fc3⋯.jpg (382.96 KB, 2048x1892, 512:473, 8bb850d8b5d5fc34ea877c1c4e….jpg)

>>99976

It really is a bullshit false-dichotomy. Civilization, and even human survival, is impossible without collectivism, but only when it is voluntary, and if collectivism is voluntary, then it isn't even collectivism anymore buboutt individualism with collectives. As for which collectives are important, I think it would ideally go in this order:

>family

>tribe (neighbours, friends, coworkers, church, clubs)

>extended tribe (race, language, culture, country, city)

>outsiders

>inb4 some pompous pseudo-intellectual with an olive up his ass calls me a fascist, because "bla bla bla, you SHOULD treat people ONLY according to their merits and abilities because that is the ANCAP thing to do because I said so, etc…"


 No.99983

>>99981

>only when it is voluntary, and if collectivism is voluntary, then it isn't even collectivism anymore

This.

>>99974

Cool pic. Who are these ppl and why should I care? Having property and valuing the moral worth of the individual has nothing to with Judaism, it also does not help the Zionist agenda at all, so I'm curious where you're going with this.


 No.99988

File: 5757a50067ca242⋯.jpg (16.42 KB, 600x570, 20:19, youtried.jpg)

>>99974

>rand

>freidman


 No.100015

File: ef33de66a5bb5d1⋯.jpg (110.33 KB, 1200x911, 1200:911, BEST.jpg)


 No.100016

>>100015

I don't think that whoever made that image knows what egoism or altruism means.


 No.100018

File: 4ede494e5afadda⋯.png (245.08 KB, 1136x516, 284:129, natsoc_realsocialism.png)

on /pol/ they are literally saying national socialism is "real socialism"

literally kek'ed so hard

pic related (worth saving) actually im not that gud wit OC so if someoen could make this a danker meme that wud be awesome


 No.100019

>>100016

who cares the only three that matter are in the right spot


 No.100021

>>100018

lmfao, just more evidence of Nazi retardation, let them brag about being leftist lol


 No.100028

>>100021

try baiting them wit it and it will work


 No.100029

>>100028

Tbh, 60% of my time on 8chan is trolling Nazis, so you can be sure I'm gonna make a thread with this one lol


 No.100030

We'll see what happens. My money is on "thread gets banned" as usual, it's the fascist thing to do :)

https://8ch.net/pol/res/13015975.html


 No.100036

>>100030

lol prly just like /leftypol/


 No.100037

>>100030

winrar >>13016173

>He's right.

>NatSoc is the creation of a community that is in harmony with men.

>Marxists believe they can shape men into whatever their retarded system tells them to.

>(((Liberals))) want to destroy the Volksgemeinshaft because it's easiest to profit off the isolated.


 No.100041

>>100037

I can't stop laughing bro, rofl


 No.100042

I also made this thread on /pol/ a few days back, these fucking Nazis are so oblivious to satire.

They either agreed or called me a jew :)

https://8ch.net/pol/res/12994224.html

Good times lol


 No.100057

>>100015

That image is retarded, ancaps aren't centrist remotely. neither is natsoc either


 No.100074

>>100041

put me in the screncap :3


 No.100075

>>100057

whatever the point is that everything else is cuckism and the xtremes are uncannily similar and totalitarian bootlickers


 No.100076

>>100042

holy fkn lol


 No.100078

>>100076

It's all about the lulz :)


 No.100118

File: 39abe2b388c72d7⋯.png (159.16 KB, 642x525, 214:175, natsoc_realsocialism2.png)

have we found the ultimate b8 lads?


 No.100119

>>100118

those are the same retards that say you can't have nationalism without Socialism.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


 No.100128

>>100119

meh nationalism is involuntarily collectivist..


 No.100131

More DELUSIONAL white fantasies!


 No.100154


 No.100159

>>100015

Did you not get bullied enough in the thread you made? Fuck off with the enlightened bigbrain centrism, you're embarrassing yourself.


 No.100164

>>100030

>>100042

Finally /cuckerty/ is dishing and not taking. I'm proud of you, anon.


 No.100169

>>100128

There's nothing inherently coercive about it. I can decide of my own volition that I want to live among people of the same culture and that I want what's best for that culture without harming anyone else.


 No.100186

File: 90505a54a610395⋯.jpg (74.29 KB, 600x375, 8:5, AVERAGE WHITE PERSON.jpg)

>>100169

>There's nothing inherently coercive about it.

you dont choose your race so membership to a "white nation" isnt voluntary and the word is inherently connotated with statism.. for example i would never want to be part of that shit and national socialists use white nationhood as an excuse for gassing degeneracy (fun)

also why the fuck would you fucking care what your fucking male friends looked like? YOU WANT TO FUCK YOUR DUDE FRIENDS??? Why else would you care if a DUDE is black asian or white and whether you would associate with them?

ALSO MOST WHITE PEOPLE ARE FATASS NEOLIBERAL SJW POLITICALLY CORRECT CUCKS!!!!!!!! WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO EVER ASSOCIATE WITH A GENERALIZED "WHITE NATION?"

the whole concept is delusional and statist.. borders unless it's individual property require states

western culture =/= "white" culutre/nationhood

Also the term "white" is as gay as "people of color," and only people who are sooo fucking desperate to have something to be proud of or claim victimhood over would generalize like 10 different european populations like that.

also FINNISH PEOPLE ARE NOT "WHITE" YET THEY HAVE WAY HOTTER CHICKS.. stop trying to make some kind of "extended family" of "white" people because youre so fucking desperate to fit in somewhere holy shit lol


 No.100188

>>100186

kill yourself retard


 No.100189

File: aff4724e3b0f5f4⋯.jpeg (9.23 KB, 277x182, 277:182, download (1).jpeg)

>>100169

>>100188

also the term "white" is exclusionary the same way "people of color is"

finnish people are both asian and white for example highlighting the absurdity

anyone using those terms is by default desperate to EXCLUDE or desperately fit in with some faggot gen pop trash

>>100188

go associate with your white trash "family" in your retard corner ethno state or move to fucking israel if you like ethnical association so fucking much


 No.100208

>>100189

Your post is illogical and formatted like a redditor. Go back to whatever subreddit you live on. Alternatively, back to leftpol, which I'm sure is how you landed on this site.


 No.100274

>>100208

im going to

redd it

space

just

to

piss

you off

>not an arg-

>ument


 No.100310

>>100274

Shit dude, you got me. I guess I'm the real retard and not you, the obvious retard.


 No.100314

>>100310

and again nothing to back up your claim that i was illogical

typical liberal shitposting

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/reddit/


 No.100321

>>100314

There's no need for me to qualify anything I say to you. This isn't a debate. This isn't scholarly. I don't respect you or care for you. I think you type like a moron and you use your moronic typing to put forward ideas that are similarly moronic. That's all. My aim here was never to prove you wrong, only to mock you. You fail to understand this because, as I'm sure I've said to the point of monotony, you're a moron. That's also, coincidentally, why you continue to reply to someone who clearly loathes you and has no intention of analyzing the things you're saying beyond the bare minimum required to continue to scornfully deride you.

If you'd write your posts like someone who cares about making sure their post isn't complete garbage, maybe people would read them earnestly and reply in kind.


 No.100338

>>100274

>>100314

Why isn't this retard banned?


 No.100367

File: 93c9f961b2755da⋯.gif (854.94 KB, 500x281, 500:281, turn_smug.gif)

>>100321

>There's no need for me to qualify anything I say to you. This isn't a debate. This isn't scholarly. I don't respect you or care for you. I think you type like a moron and you use your moronic typing to put forward ideas that are similarly moronic. That's all. My aim here was never to prove you wrong, only to mock you. You fail to understand this because, as I'm sure I've said to the point of monotony, you're a moron. That's also, coincidentally, why you continue to reply to someone who clearly loathes you and has no intention of analyzing the things you're saying beyond the bare minimum required to continue to scornfully deride you.

>If you'd write your posts like someone who cares about making sure their post isn't complete garbage, maybe people would read them earnestly and reply in kind.

144 words 799 characters and you couldnt even fucking provide a statement to back up your DUBIOUS claims

typical liberal shitposter

>>100338

>hurr durr we should ban crticism like /leftypol/ and nazi niggers and reddit

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/twitter/


 No.100368

>>100321

you spent more energy screeching aimlessly than you could have by simply backing up your claim.. because you lack anything to back up your claims just like a typical self contradicting piece of liberal shit


 No.100386

File: 79a4a4a7903b33e⋯.jpg (1.84 KB, 102x48, 17:8, great idea you moron.jpg)

>>100321

Tried to read this, but my brain would shut down. Could you be any more of a faggot?


 No.100448

>>100118

The Nazis weren't even Socialist, it's just a name. They were just fascists. The fact that so many Nazis on 8chan even claim they push socialism is, again, a sign of how fucking retarded poltards are.


 No.100465

File: 339c87dde806557⋯.png (754.86 KB, 955x716, 955:716, fascist_means_faggot.png)

File: 3ca7d8f593b59bd⋯.jpg (38.1 KB, 354x360, 59:60, asdasd.jpg)

File: f13f0005621c4fe⋯.jpg (67.24 KB, 318x558, 53:93, asxasx.jpg)

>>100448

>fascists.

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https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian


 No.100469

>>100465

From your link:

>What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.

Very good points, gold star for the memes as well lol.

The counterpoints are that Otto Strasser got kicked out at some point and the Nazi Party became "anti-socialist", but in reality that really just means it became more totalitarian.

I concede, sir :)

That being said, they're still fucking fascists as well in my book,they really take the "best of both worlds" of the left-right poltical spectrum it seems.


 No.100850

>>99983

<it also does not help the Zionist agenda at all

It doesn't harm it either, in way it could actually help because it would make the economy more prosper and stable.


 No.100857

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>100469

>The counterpoints are that Otto Strasser got kicked out at some point and the Nazi Party became "anti-socialist"

What about Hitler himself? he frequently praised Stalin for his central-planning efforts, and some crazy regulatory shit happened under his economy.




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