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4d7fa0  No.15885444

EVEN WITH THE RECENT TROUBLE, SUPPORT FALCOM GAMES AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. ENCOURAGE THE GOOD THINGS DONE OVER HERE WITH THE LOCALIZATIONS AND PERHAPS THEY WILL CONTINUE, AND IF NOT THEN VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET

>Latest News

-Project Nox, Falcom's new project, is set to be unveiled tomorrow during their annual shareholders meeting. No one is quite sure what it is yet, but guesses range from the new Ys title, a sequel to TX or possibly something new entirely.

-Trails of Cold Steel 1 and 2 will release on PS4 on January 22, 2019. For the first time the games will have dual audio, though the dub will feature the extra lines recorded for the PC versions. It will also feature the "turbo mode" feature added to the PC versions.

-The PC versions of Cold Steel 1 and 2 had dual audio patched in, so as long as you are able to update your game an undub is no longer necessary if you want to play it with Japanese audio. Also some new English lines were added to CS1 with the patch.

-On the same day, October 26th, both Tom Lipschultz and Brittany "Hatsuu" Avery left XSeed. Apparently, their departures being simultaneous was a coincidence, at least according to both of them. Though details are slim, it looks as though Tom left by his own choice and Brittany was let go. Regardless this is a massive and possibly fatal change to XSeed. Tom was not only instrumental in securing ports for smaller obscurer Falcom titles like Zwei and Xanadu Next, he was also one of the staunchest defenders of anti-censorship practices in the localization business. His loss could easily mean XSeed is highly vulnerable to pozz. Every release must be carefully watched from now on. As for Hatsuu, she was a huge fan of Falcom games, particularly the Ys and Trails franchises, and was one of their biggest cheerleaders at the company. A Falcom game localized without her is sure to feel at least slightly different. The two most prominent faces of the company to the public are gone and the future of XSeed and Falcom games in the west is highly uncertain for now. All we can do is wait and watch vigilantly for what comes next.

- Falcom has announced they're working on a new Ys game set after Ys VIII. Right now there is no title, no word of whether the Tokyo Xanadu sequel Kondo talked about making is happening first and no other info other than it's being worked on.

- As of this posting Trails of Cold Steel 4 has been out for nearly three months in Japan, so obviously the whole game is spoiled. Try to keep things behind spoilertext here.

- The PC port of Ys: Memories of Celceta released on July 25th, 2018.

- The Switch port of Ys VIII released with a litany of bugs, including not even having dual audio (NISA's sole claim to fame) at launch.

- After an email campaign, a retranslation, apologies, and 7 months of delays, Ys 8 finally got released on PC. And NISA fucked up, the port is so terrible that only 51% of the Steam reviews being positive (it was originally at 25%, but shills will shill). Western and Japanese websites are reporting this story. In other words, a huge backlash. Meanwhile, NISA promised to fix everything. Don't worry, they'll probably be able to fix in a few weeks what they couldn't fix in 1.5 years. Absolutely. Ha.

- Trails of Cold Steel I & II is now on PC through Steam and GOG with gameplay enhancements and newly voiced lines of dialogue.

- Ys Seven ported to PC by XSEED, available now on Steam/GOG/Humble Store

- Zwei!! and Zwei II are finally released on PC by XSEED, available now on Steam/GOG/Humble Store

- Tokyo Xanadu released on PS4/PC with an improved translation, but there are a few issues like slangs, memes and random chtulhu lines.

- Also available on PC: the Trails in the Sky trilogy (now with Turbo mode), Xanadu Next, Ys: I & II Chronicles, Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim, Ys: The Oath in Felghana and Ys Origin.

>Fan-translations

>Trails from Zero at 70% (being edited by Geofront/Zerk). There is already a beta (as in a rough translation done before Zerk even started working on it) out, though the quality is on the low side, though still coherent from start to finish

>Trails to Azure was leaked. There are a few typos and every once in a while there's an awkward line or two but all in all it's a solid translation. https://www.romhacking.net/translations/3679/. Flame's edit of the translation is also out officially now. It's a better worded script at the cost of pretty much breaking the voice mod. Both are available packaged with torrents if you care to look for them.

>Everything else in the works seems to be MIA.

>Undubs

- Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection

https://mega.nz/#!Bw5SURQK!fsrMwjX72trMpoXK3Vx6kKn7cgcj1h5sf5E1OSqgA0s

Mega of every undub: https://mega.nz/#F!k5ZjwTCD!A4Uyb67OpQQ_qCoB-zvx0g

Merge the JP voices and Dummy files into one folder and dump that folder into the voice folder.

>Falcom pastebin (download links for scans, Falcom Magazine volumes, soundtracks and more)

pastebin.com/G2mswYCt

5e709b  No.15885459

File: bc12b6658303fe5⋯.jpg (784.55 KB, 759x918, 253:306, __olivier_lenheim_and_sche….jpg)

Oliver is only lucky guy.


568789  No.15885612

What does N.O.X. stand for?

Tune in in 24 hours to know


5b590f  No.15885667

>>15885459

Fuck you spoilerfag


4d7fa0  No.15886008

>>15885667

He isn't spoiling, though? Just a statement about the picture. If you were to start talking about plot details then you might be spoiling, though.


d1af64  No.15886028

>>15885612

Whatever it is, it plays nothing like the trails series because I'm getting sick of turn based. Falcom just can't pull it off well.


4d7fa0  No.15886044

>>15886028

Have you never played Ys?


5b590f  No.15886050

>>15886008

end of last thread


d1af64  No.15886051

>>15886044

I have. All but 8 because fuck NISA.

Still I feel better things could have been done with Trails from a gameplay perspective and in spite of the stories, worlds and characters I couldn't make it past Coldsteel 1 because I burned out and I don't think I'll ever get back to 2. Not to mention I feel the gameplay in Steel is inferior to Sky/Azure.


bd3d9b  No.15886466

File: b7faf86cc17d2ab⋯.jpg (569.22 KB, 1920x2715, 128:181, project nox.jpg)

>>15885444

Full res of the first image.


d45e24  No.15886894

>>15885667

Osborne and Arianrhod die.


fdafa7  No.15886942

File: 21b88d668660f91⋯.jpg (179.65 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, DsJcSb-XQAAJN-B.jpg)

I got to the beach episode intermission

Guess it's time, Tio or Noel?


5e709b  No.15887225

File: 2572bec70339fbb⋯.jpg (282.02 KB, 1143x800, 1143:800, __kea_elie_macdowell_ilya_….jpg)

>>15886942

Your choice.


4d7fa0  No.15887460

File: fd471d27bc5878b⋯.png (1.37 MB, 1366x768, 683:384, TioEek.png)

File: b1057fb30d6f563⋯.jpg (121.99 KB, 960x544, 30:17, TioPenguin.JPG)

File: 959ee55ee187ae2⋯.png (1.2 MB, 1366x768, 683:384, TioSwimsuit.png)

File: d0a6d57d10dfd63⋯.png (2.53 MB, 1900x1000, 19:10, TioBigBrother.png)

File: b4cddf6d91532da⋯.jpg (288.13 KB, 952x1609, 952:1609, TioSuperCute.jpg)


202d33  No.15889081

File: 8f1a554472cba1c⋯.png (199.72 KB, 502x374, 251:187, life is hard (2).png)

how much longer until the reveal again?


c61685  No.15889142

>>15889081

It’ll be at about 3 p.m. est


4d7fa0  No.15889158

>>15889081

The shareholders meeting starts in about three hours.


e45461  No.15889187

File: 5954ca6ab4db61e⋯.png (648.45 KB, 1024x1024, 1:1, 1471465067301.png)

>Ys VIII will never EVER get a proper English translation

>Ys VIII will never EVER have a proper PC port


202d33  No.15890030

did it happen yet bros


5b590f  No.15890047

>>15889187

Stop reminding me

Fucking fanslators are naive as fuck

someone needs to pay Durante and he could probably make it pretty decent


702434  No.15890081

>>15890047

Durante did work on the port for Ys VIII. And then NISA threw his work away


d45e24  No.15890391

File: 6cb152271946fdd⋯.png (55.47 KB, 366x112, 183:56, ClipboardImage.png)


4d7fa0  No.15890393

File: b2d257d5a3c50ba⋯.jpg (128.42 KB, 1200x900, 4:3, YsIX.jpg)

It's Ys IX.


e73282  No.15890430

>>15890393

Aw ye.

Wait, who would be translating it?


d45e24  No.15890442

File: 273a68b75a7dd21⋯.png (1.28 MB, 1200x900, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 97e88193436d10f⋯.png (1.44 MB, 1200x900, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)


4d7fa0  No.15890450

>>15890430

Anon we're like at least a year and probably more before we'd even know. The game won't even be out until next Fall in Japan most likely.


e73282  No.15890469

>>15890450

Sure, but in theory who's left to translate it?


4d7fa0  No.15890507

>>15890469

Xseed isn't gone, anon. They lost two people. Two extremely public people, but the company still exists and they haven't had any games since those departures come out so we can't really say what they will be like now. NISA could go for Ys again, but it's not clear if they want to or if Falcom wants them back. Everything is up in the air right now.


d45e24  No.15890530

nysa


e73282  No.15890560

>>15890507

Ok. Any more images or anything to hint on how it's going to play?


4d7fa0  No.15890575

>>15890560

All I can find right now is that it takes place on a prison island, so expect it to be a bit edgier, I suppose, which given the color scheme isn't all that shocking.


e45461  No.15890588

File: a7d42114e46bf20⋯.jpg (205.5 KB, 1199x799, 1199:799, a7d42114e46bf2099d89a6ced8….jpg)

>>15890442

>PS4 only


4d7fa0  No.15890621

>>15890588

I hope you weren't expecting Vita. If you were you're dumb. I guess they could have made a Switch port, but they seem to be leaving things like that to 3rd parties these days.


d45e24  No.15890632

>>15890575

Prison City*


e45461  No.15890647

>>15890621

More so lamenting that there is never gonna be a good PC version unless someone who cares actually gets the localization rights and that Falcom refuses to do non-sony system releases in house meaning if it does get a switch port it will be garbage like Ys VIII.


568789  No.15890669

File: 21ce2093440a11c⋯.gif (2.2 MB, 360x264, 15:11, 21ce2093440a11c60f87246029….gif)

>>15890647

>>15890588

>There's no chance XSEED will get the rights and do a PC port as good or even better than Seven, Celceta or CS'.


bd3d9b  No.15890734

>>15890647

Generally this is why you learn Japanese. It gives you choices, it's not a be all end all solution that magically fixes everything. But it gives you choices. Want to stick your head in the sand and play only your backlog? You can do that. Want to circumvent (((localization)))? Want to be able to verify whether it was localized or (((localized))) to inform anons? You can do that. Use it spread word of mouth news far more effectively? Want to communicate with Japs to pass along censorship happenings and related? That too. Want to play games early? As long as import bux don't stop you, you can do that too. Choices that are much better that hoping X company does a good job with the translation, or that Y company does not get the game, or whether Z company will offer non-gutted, non-jewed physical releases, and etc. Again it won't fix everything, but it's a huge advantage to have.


e45461  No.15890754

File: 2c6af7c5ea56f7b⋯.jpg (53.31 KB, 842x699, 842:699, 2c6af7c5ea56f7bcbf2615a333….jpg)

>>15890734

I have no problem playing the japanese release. I played through Tokyo Xanada and Ys VIII on the vita without any problems to avoid NISA's and Aksys' cancer. My biggest problem is it being trapped on the PS4, which I don't have and I refuse to buy at any point thanks to sony's recent bullshit. So unless a proper company picks up the game for localization and gives it a good port or Falcom does switch ports in house; I won't be able to play any of the games.


5b590f  No.15890777

>>15890081

He was only there for like a week, and yes I'm aware

>>15890575

Nice.

>>15890647

Its likely that XSEED, or at the very least Aksys will get the rights to port it to PC rather than NISA, unless they don't care even about their Japanese PC audience which would be very unusual as NISA's disastrous port affected even their side of things.

>>15890734

Accurate, but that has nothing to do with a shitty or nonexistent PC port which is mainly what that anon was referring to.

>>15890754

Yep. Fuck the PS4 and fuck Sony.

I don't understand what the hell has possessed them to act this way, outside of the obvious california answer.


4d7fa0  No.15890822

File: a027d82c81fbb92⋯.jpg (161.75 KB, 707x1000, 707:1000, YsIXTitle.jpg)

File: a3ab1a3cbea76c2⋯.png (1005.72 KB, 1195x561, 1195:561, YsPrison.png)

File: c05b3be1900b7a3⋯.jpg (89.45 KB, 960x542, 480:271, YsChruch.jpg)

File: dcccfa36b37fee3⋯.jpg (93.21 KB, 960x542, 480:271, YsMonsters.jpg)

File: 64116c7d1fc6863⋯.jpg (113.34 KB, 960x542, 480:271, YsIX1.jpg)

>Ys IX takes place in the enormous prison city Balduq, situated in the Glial Ördlingen region northeast of Esteria. A new adventurer deals with the mysteries of the prison and Monstri (literally 'suspicion persons'), ecah with different powers.


b1be48  No.15890936

>>15890822

So Falcom is doing furries now


4d7fa0  No.15890986

>>15890936

Catgirls are nothing new and usually don't count on typical furry charts.


3959ac  No.15891157

>>15890754

>My biggest problem is it being trapped on the PS4

>>15890777

>Fuck the PS4

Exactly my sentiments.

Despite NISA's screwup on Ys8's PC port, and NIS JP's slight incompetence on the Switch port, I still hope NIS would make the same offer again to Kondo to localize and port Ys9.

Otherwise I'll probably hold onto my PS4 a bit longer and grab a discounted / used copy.


9db660  No.15891308

File: e2ca0ec41f26d6a⋯.jpg (179.43 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, Kea.full.822611.jpg)

KeA would make a great gravure model.

I hope Ys 9 will get an English localisation within a year.


9db660  No.15891325

>>15890777

Have none of you people payed attention? There is something going on in the Land of the Free. Some speculate its SESTA and FOSTA.

I would say the Puritans are back but were they ever gone?


4d7fa0  No.15891339

File: 57a8cbb2d204a13⋯.jpg (242.4 KB, 1440x900, 8:5, KeASwimsuit.jpg)


65021d  No.15891576

>>15891308

>I hope Ys 9 will get an English localisation within a year.

No, you don't


c9e1dd  No.15891607

File: 1e0de8800e28b52⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 841.09 KB, 836x770, 38:35, 1325373660313.png)

File: 12caaa6510ba9ff⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 316.49 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, call1503.jpg)


41ec49  No.15891612

>>15890393

Well damn, I didn't think it'd be Ys after all.


c8111c  No.15891619

File: 16dd3ab9e707873⋯.png (16.12 KB, 546x144, 91:24, ss (2018-12-19 at 12.39.09….png)

So basically, NISA will still localize Ys IX.

Fuck everything.


41ec49  No.15891628

>>15891619

Fuck this gay earth if true.


702434  No.15891653

>>15890822

So the main character is a cute edgy girl?

Also there's a catgirl party member?

>PS4 only

>gonna get hit with Sony gestapo even before it's out of the gate


568789  No.15891700

The website seems to imply the characters are dream-living in some sort of fucked up dream dimension and they are different people. Supposedly, Adol could be the chuuni girl in the middle.


568789  No.15891707

Becoming someone that is not yourself. Have you ever seen that dream?

I am thinking inside that dream. Is this myself or not?

Is the dream a reality, or is the reality a dream? The answer that I finally arrived at is terribly simple.

"Either way is good, isn't it"

It's not a matter of which one is the truth. Both of them are truths.

~Text from "Barduk's Cage"


e73282  No.15891881

>>15890822

>new MC

I guess it makes sense since Adol and Co. would bust out instantly, or did Falcom forget they have Dogi?

Did Lacrimosa better the party Ys gameplay? I remember not really liking Seven all that much and I never started Celceta as a consequence.

In other words I guess that new MC looks nice(a bit overdesigned but I like the blue and grey contast). RIP Adol?


568789  No.15892495

>>15891881

There's no new main character, Adol is one of those characters, probably the girl in the middle.


202d33  No.15892516

I don't know why people keep assuming Adol isn't the MC for this game. My impression is that they simply wanted to debut the game with content that most starkly contrasts with previous entries.

Then again maybe I'm just retarded.


202d33  No.15892587

>>15892543

thanks lad, keep up the good work.


4d7fa0  No.15892613

>>15891619

And why would Kondo not try to paint the situation in the best possible light to the fucking shareholders? These are the people you have to suck up to. What did you think he was going to say "Yeah we really fucked up. This was truly bad and catastrophic." No, he's gonna try and spin it as hard as he can. The fact that he admitted there were problems at all is actually a good sign.


c8111c  No.15892616

>>15892613

I'm fully aware of that.

This doesn't change that I'll be skipping yet another Ys game because of the localization company.


202d33  No.15892621

>>15892616

I think his point is that this increases the chances that they won't be reupping on NISA.

Not that I agree, personally, but still.


c8111c  No.15892631

>>15892621

The fuckups did not impact Falcom financially in any significant way, and they still offered a fuck ton more than Xseed could for the licensing. In the end it's just a numbers game and I'm sure they'll be sticking with NISA since they can keep a close eye on them (in the interviews they stated they'll be sending their own people down to QA) while still raking in shitloads of money.

Who else can outbid NISA? Nobody.


2b4f7c  No.15892639

>>15892631

Well I vote for Atlus but then PC gamers will cry…


202d33  No.15892646

>>15892639

Yeah, sorry but I'd much rather have a google translate localization that crashes than no PC version at all.


7d4632  No.15892684

>>15892646

I'd rather have nothing so that those faggots aren't profiting off of actively ruining the work of others.


202d33  No.15892720

>>15892684

I respect that idea but I still want to play it.


c61685  No.15893721

>>15892720

You’re the problem. You don’t give a shit about the quality so long as you can play it. That’s fucking sad.


501719  No.15893745

>>15893721

He could just pirate it anon, doing so he doesn't gives money to NISA.


202d33  No.15893750


6d9e62  No.15893766

File: a60616ee7f1d7c2⋯.webm (217.88 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, a60616ee7f1d7c2c8f8bd75c9….webm)

>>15890822

My one wish is that they actually make design the game so that the players can be defeated. These last Ys has been complete babymode.


f1d852  No.15893772

>>15893745

>He could just pirate it anon, doing so he doesn't gives money to NISA.

that doesn't solve the problem of the PC port being guaranteed trash. Ys VIII is still broken and they haven't produced a single update in over half a year


501719  No.15893778

>>15893772

I agree anon, that doesn't solve anything indeed. Best case scenario we wouldn't need to deal with NISA bullshit and that still holds true.


8e52e9  No.15893895

>>15893745

>pirate it

I know this is repeated quite often but it seems like people continue to push this as an "alternative" to giving NISA money.

Pirating the release doesn't solve the problem. NISA has it's own fanbase that it brings to games, as long as they make money they literally don't give a fuck how many angry people pirate the game.

They've made their money and ensured future releases will be cucked.

The only way you're going to "win" this is ensure they don't even see a potential audience for an English release which means you'll need to learn nip or not read the story.

Alongside that you will need to inform literally everybody who might purchase a NISA release that they are shit. This part is significantly harder because you''ll run into a lot of people don't actually give a shit or are already part of the NISA fanbase.

You'll also need to remove all of France. Apparently they are almost capable of keeping NISA afloat by themselves.


4d7fa0  No.15893908

>>15893895

>The only way you're going to "win" this is ensure they don't even see a potential audience for an English release which means you'll need to learn nip

>NISA has it's own fanbase that it brings to games, as long as they make money they literally don't give a fuck how many angry people pirate the game.

???


8e52e9  No.15894062

>>15893908

I understand it may be confusing seeing as you're retarded but NISA very rarely actually picks up games that don't already have an established English fanbase, outside of NIS titles and tax breaks.

NISA has a rather large fanbase that are fans of NISA, rather than fans of the titles they localize.

They can and do frequently dwarf the fanbase of the actual game's fanbase leading to "displacement of the natives" and, eventually, <Degradation of a Fanbase/Hobby>

Let's use YS8 as an example.

<XSEED releases YS for years to a small, dedicated fanbase and builds a small community around their releases

<NISA sees potential money along with potential maximum damage to a mostly uncucked competitor and immediately competes to license YS8 after the English community has been built up for nearly a decade we're going by 2010 as when XSEED started "official releases" on PSP by XSEED

<They completely fuck it up, promise fixes, and never deliver

<The NISA fanbase defends them, calling the original, now minority fanbase entitled, assholes, not true fans, etc

Most English localizers don't actually give a fuck about making massive amounts of profit as long as they make some. Their goal is gatekeeping the English audience.

They are more likely to target a title or series that is gaining traction with an English speaking community.

By lowering visibility of certain games to English speakers they last longer without being fucked over.


372590  No.15894155


4d7fa0  No.15894185

>>15894062

No, no, my point, anon, is you said that not pirating the game somehow defeats NISA, but you also said that NISA has a fanbase of loyal sycophants already who will buy the game regardless (a group you say is bigger than the core fans) so…how does not pirating the game do anything? Does it magically make those people disappear? You said not pirating the game somehow sticks it to NISA, but then said it's hopeless because they have a large fanbase. You're contradicting yourself. Which was my point in the first place.


5b590f  No.15894234

>>15894185

>is you said that not pirating the game somehow defeats NISA

Where the fuck did he say that?

>so…how does not pirating the game do anything?

>You said not pirating the game somehow sticks it to NISA

No he didn't. You lack reading comprehension.

>but then said it's hopeless because they have a large fanbase.

He didn't say that either, he's clearly just illustrating a larger point about the real problem here which is that you would need a lot of angry, vocal customers and the information about NISA's shit spread greatly to do actual damage to them.

He never contradicted himself either. He said explicitly that piracy doesn't solve the problem in that post you're referring to, and he only has 2 posts in the thread. His stated way of "winning" is to nuke out an english release entirely because NISA is like a very large parasite that has rooted itself to a host that is healthy enough for it to feed off of, and its so fucking large and sticky that getting it off would be like lopping off part of your body its latched on to do so (the english release). Personally, what reaction that was had against NISA was good in my opinion with that Steam release being outright nuked to 20%, but it has yet to be seen if it was good enough to keep Falcom away from them.


4d7fa0  No.15894297

>>15894234

>Where the fuck did he say that?

I already quoted it but:

>The only way you're going to "win" this is ensure they don't even see a potential audience for an English release which means you'll need to learn nip

He then says

>NISA has it's own fanbase that it brings to games, as long as they make money they literally don't give a fuck how many angry people pirate the game.

So how can one "win" when NISA already has this fanbase? Unless you mean like a moral victory for yourself.


8e52e9  No.15894332

>>15894185

>you said that not pirating the game somehow defeats NISA

That is not what I said. I said pirating or not pirating the game does not solve the problem of NISA. Those may sound similar but they are not.

>you also said that NISA has a fanbase of loyal sycophants already who will buy the game regardless

Yes. Look at any NISA release and you'll see people defending the stupid bullshit that they do.

>so…how does not pirating the game do anything?

Piracy is a usable metric when gauging the "success" of a particular release. It isn't counted as profit or loss as retards will try to reframe it as to "defeat" the argument "lol. they profit on lost sales?", it is used to gauge "interest".

Where it can come into play is if your release was only a moderate success and you are trying to figure out if another release in the same franchise might still be profitable.

A localization company can easily lose interest in localizing a title if they think nobody is playing it because at that point, it isn't as valuable to attempt to play gatekeeper.

>Does it magically make those people disappear? You said not pirating the game somehow sticks it to NISA,

NISA fans are the weeb equivalent of annual SPORTS game players. They will play or pretend to whatever NISA releases.

Those people don't disappear but they also aren't invested in long running franchises and will lose interest rapidly if NISA stops localization of a title. They don't have to continue localizing any title for the "core" NISA fanbase because they will play anything NISA releases.

>then said it's hopeless because they have a large fanbase.

I didn't say it was hopeless, I said it would be difficult.

NISA has an established fanbase they can bring along to nearly anything that is often bigger than the fanbase of the games they invade. It's then very easy for any criticism to be drowned out by the larger, NISAcore.

The only way to "win" that is to not allow the NISAcore to grow and attempt to shrink it. That part is difficult.

>>15894297

>The only way you're going to "win" this is ensure they don't even see a potential audience for an English release which means you'll need to learn nip

What I mean by that is that the "win state" is NISA not localizing a title. You reduce a potential English audience by not being part of it.

>So how can one "win" when NISA already has this fanbase?

The only real way to "win" is for NISA to go out of business or change their localization practices entirely.

Barring either of those things the goal is to avoid them licensing titles you enjoy and hope a smaller, noncucked localizer picks it up or learn nip.


5b590f  No.15894337

>>15894297

He just said it. The only way to "win" is to keep an English release away entirely, aka lopping off your own body parts, and the only way one would do that is somehow to mobilize everyone who would care into angrily complaining and informing everyone who would possibly be interested in it about their fuckery and hope its enough for Falcom to avoid it. The problem remains now with NISA's own fanbase's ability to prevent this, it would depend on how large and vocal Falcom's fanbase is, and how much of NISA's fanbase would avoid these games


4d7fa0  No.15894345

>>15894337

>The only way to "win" is to keep an English release away entirely

So it's impossible, ergo pointless. Got it. What was even the point of this fucking conversation?


86b812  No.15894450

>>15891619

How can one company fuck up and still get business? They can't keep getting away with it.

This means that despite NISA localization retards still bought it anyway. They only have themselves to blame.


5b590f  No.15894453

>>15894345

>so its impossible, ergo pointless

No, its just unlikely and would require an high amount of effort and mobilization to possibly rectify.

I'm less pessimistic than that anon and think that there's a fair chance Falcom will not go with them after that disaster, but he makes valid points about the problem that is NISA.

Already we have a ton of complacency and faggots like that insufferable Falcom subleddit for example starting to tolerate NISA's bullshit, and that Steam score has climbed far too high over time.


4d7fa0  No.15894491

>>15894450

>How can one company fuck up and still get business?

Because most American gamers are passive, lazy and far too used to settling.

>>15894453

>No, its just unlikely and would require an high amount of effort and mobilization to possibly rectify.

You're way more optimistic than me, anon. Now I think you can get people to mobilize against NISA. Hell, we fucking did. The problem was that NISA did a token gesture which calmed down way too many normalfags who, again, are too used to settling. Getting normalfags to give up on localizations entirely, if I'm being honest, sounds like a complete and utter pipe dream. I've seen enough of these people to know that unless someone comes out with the Matrix technology to download a language into your brain tomorrow, the chances of it happening are basically zero.

>I'm less pessimistic than that anon and think that there's a fair chance Falcom will not go with them after that disaster

I've been trying to tell myself this too. Sometimes I'm more successful at convincing myself than others. It all comes down to how personally Kondo took NISA's fuckups I guess.


5b590f  No.15894503

>>15894491

Its not about getting normalfags to give up localizations entirely, its just that the damage that would be done involving this particular instance with NISA would probably make Falcom think twice about an english release at all, period


66ac1d  No.15894621

>>15894450

There are people in the Falcom speedrun community that actually praise the Ys8 localization. NISAniggers are an amazingly pervasive form of cancer, most of them run on the same logic as the retarded anon in this thread that keeps saying he's happy to play a buggy shitshow instead of nothing at all.


e73282  No.15895142

>>15894621

>implying the Falcom speedrunning community actually exists

Get the fuck out of here anon.

The only way to win is to get whoever ported Seven and Celceta(since those are some really good ports I must say) and have them do some shit tier machine translation, while also letting whoever fangroup to do their own translations. That way we satisfy the people who just want the ports, while also satisfying any fangroup, cancerous or not, who want to do their own translation for the game while also leaving a lot of options to the player.


e73282  No.15895158

Also I'm digging MoC off the bat because I don't need to hold the attack button to charge anymore. I'm still against the flash guard/move mechanics but we'll see if the game needs them by the end.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this the first Ys game since Ark to hit a mainline console first instead of a handheld?


e51283  No.15895162

File: d92474285e36baf⋯.jpg (998.68 KB, 2592x800, 81:25, 1422035719789-0.jpg)

>christmas event in GOG

>still no discounts on trails of the sky SC


66ac1d  No.15895204

>>15895142

It does. There is an entire marathon devoted to speedruns of Falcom games on the RPG Limit Break twitch channel, and Ys and Cold Steel have shown up in several other smaller marathons.


059406  No.15895289

File: 967663eefb9cec3⋯.png (358.94 KB, 405x798, 135:266, Ys_8_Io.png)

>>15894621

I had no problem with Nisa localisation. Christ knows Xseed does their own fan fiction shit.

I do feel bad for PC gamers though. They should have handled that better. At least they patched it unlike Nier.


059406  No.15895293

>>15895204

I have been playing games for a long time. I know gamer culture is cancer. But Twitch is why aliens won't talk to us.


78c1e4  No.15895401

>>15895162

Nothing published by Xseed is discounted. They're probably skipping this sale.


ce3785  No.15895407

>>15895289

>At least they patched it unlike Nier.

They have?


d45e24  No.15895494

So if you buff a stat in Sen 4 that's been debuffed nothing happens at all. There's no way it's not a bug, right? What an absolutely retarded change if not. It's kind of ruining the combat for me. I might just equip accessories that prevent debuffs to everyone for the rest of the game and take the stat hit. And by the way, it works normally in reverse, iirc. If you're hit with a debuff you'll lose your buff.


b378dd  No.15896007

>>15895289

Kill yourself, you are ironically the worst kind of cancer


2033a4  No.15896241

>>15895407

They did, but it helped as much as putting a band-aid on a broken leg.


c87f53  No.15897885

>>15895289

>I had no problem with Nisa localisation

I better hope you played the updated version then because when that piece of shit launched on ps4 and vita it was a google translated mess.

But even then i still could find a bunch of spelling errors and still a untranslated text in the final PC patched version.

Also the fucking PC version still has only 4 internal resolution options and as someone who has a 900p monitor even the 1080p internal resolution is blurry for no reason and the only option for me was to play 720p windowed.

Good thing i pirated this shit.


c61685  No.15897929

>>15897885

He didn’t. He’s been frequenting these threads since it came out downplaying the shit job NISA did.


5b590f  No.15898199

>>15897929

Still not as bad as that one insufferable frog faggot who always shows up in any threads relating to localization and censorship


4d7fa0  No.15898226

File: a5ee02f1fe5b7d3⋯.jpg (175.78 KB, 756x385, 108:55, Christmas1.jpg)

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File: 60dd0579ec2a007⋯.png (117.96 KB, 512x512, 1:1, TioSanta.png)

>>15898169


702434  No.15898257

File: 9dc8ce496b2b85a⋯.png (722.4 KB, 2048x1024, 2:1, Santa_Tio_-_S-Craft_(Akats….png)

File: 840576f9f8cf548⋯.png (675.49 KB, 2048x1024, 2:1, Xmas_Noel_-_S-Craft_(Akats….png)

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>>15898169


d45e24  No.15899358

>>15895494

I think I'm wrong about that last bit.


3f17d1  No.15899501

How is the PC port of Tokyo Xanadu eX+?

Its tempting now its on sale but ive read some things about crashes and shit localisation on the steam forum. Are there fan patches to fix the latter?


fdafa7  No.15899610

File: 31dfb68a3a0a381⋯.png (19.78 KB, 112x112, 1:1, woah.png)

Oh man, I just read the story of what happened to the Capuas

That really is fucked, it wasn't just Don being wasteful or anything, they got conned super hard.

>>15899501

Not sure about the port, but I do recall being told that TX+ was just kind of boring and dull in general

It really chaps my ass that NISA keeps getting work, they must have some inside faggot or something talking into the Falcom exec's ears or something. Ys 9 looks cool but I fully expect NISA to butcher it and stick in dogshit like how they named that NPC in Atelier Rorona "Esty Dee" because "XD so funny guys it sounds like STD"


ee15fd  No.15899616

>>15899501

The port is serviceable, the localization is NISA-tier and there are no fan patches.

Don't pay for it, just pirate it and cringe through all the terrible dialogue.


ee15fd  No.15899632

>>15895289

>I had no problem with Nisa localisation.

So you are fine with a slightly touched up machine translation that guts all the fan service/references to prior entries to the series because the team was to lazy to figure out what everything meant?

>At least they patched it unlike Nier.

The patched but the exact same fucking problems that have been happening since launch are still happening. Plus now that they've ended all support for the game it's basically worse than Nier's situation since there are no fan-fixes for everything wrong with the dumpster fire NISA created.


92d08f  No.15899881

>>15899632

> it's basically worse than Nier's situation since there are no fan-fixes for everything wrong with the dumpster fire NISA created

Is that because the fans can't be assed to salvage it or is it because the game is completely unsalvagable?

I keep telling myself it's probably a weak game in the series and that I'm not losing anything by not playing it, but the music makes it hard to believe.


5b590f  No.15899915

>>15899881

to an extent, kinda both.

What NISA did with their series of patches was bring it from a 20/100 to about a 45-60/100, whereas Nier was already like a 65/100 to start with. It had some big fucking problems but it worked on more people's machines than not at least which is why it was mixed at first.

I don't know why The Falcom Community didn't decide to do anything, I guess they just have exceptionally low standards or maybe they felt like they did enough with that emailing trash.

The game right now according to most retards on Steam isn't "completely unsalvageable" after all the patches, but you'll still likely go through some crashes and issues during your time playing, possibly more than others, possibly less. Its very unusual. Some people are claiming the GoG version had less problems.

At any rate if you want to play it, just pirate it and see for yourself how bad it is.


568789  No.15899929

>New Ys announced

>By the glorious staff that made Lacrimosa

>Looks like one of the most original and fresh they've made in years

>Thread derailed by NISA hate

Don't take me wrong, I fucking hate NISA and I did help with the email campaign but could we talk about Ys IX instead?


92d08f  No.15899935

>>15899915

How bad what is, the game or the port?

>>15899929

What's there to say? Edgy pistol chick looks nice, a new MC wouldn't be a bad thing but I don't discount her being the Dana for this game, I'm curious if blue akimbo swordsman is a boss or a playable character, if the latter then edgy pistol chick is most likely the new MC.


5b590f  No.15899936

>>15899929

Nigger people are fucking worried. They got the last Ys game. Getting excited or even speculating would largely be rendered moot if NIS/A gets ahold of it. People won't relax about this (understandably enough) until we know who's getting the rights for the english localization and the porting


568789  No.15899939

>>15899936

LEARN JAPANESE


702434  No.15899940

>>15899929

We don't know much about the game other than what was revealed. What do you want to talk about?


5b590f  No.15899949

>>15899939

That'll fix the porting problems, guess I should learn how to fix games from shitty states too :^)

learning japanese is respectable and good and all but I don't have the time or energy for that shit

>>15899935

The port and localization. Most like the game, though a few have problems with the party system and some shit about the strategies regarding bosses becoming same-y or something, overall its viewed very positively though.


fdafa7  No.15900292

File: f40e9f691eaac68⋯.png (153.38 KB, 384x390, 64:65, steveunpleasant.png)

I understand the middle in most games is a slower burn, and I'm making it last longer by playing the side requests, but man, ever since the end of chapter 2 Ao has been slow as molasses.

I'm on day 3 of chapter 3 and it really doesn't help that ever time I walk up to an npc that's part of a quest they tell me like a 5 paragraph essay worth of mostly useless dialog before letting me keep going. Thank God for the ppsspp speed up button.

I love the writing and world building of Kiseki but fuck me it's too much sometimes, especially when I'm sitting here waiting for it to move along already.


4d7fa0  No.15900328

File: 4e36660b39c9281⋯.jpg (40.96 KB, 726x404, 363:202, AltinaUnamused.jpg)

>>15900292

Chapter 3 is the slowest chapter probably. Once you get to the end of it things will pick up and not stop until the end of the game. But yeah, even in the most "action heavy" Trails games there's a lot of downtime. It can definitely be offputting to some people. Then there's me, who went around and talked to every single NPC when dialogue updated, so it obviously doesn't effect me the same way. It can be hard to feel out Trails' pacing when you don't want to move at the speed it wants.


702434  No.15900358

>>15900292

You should be thankful for those peaceful times.

Shit gets crazy in Ao.


b175a5  No.15900366

File: d60fe8294c85526⋯.png (4.33 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Kiryu Dread.png)

>>15900328

>Trails 1

>Went through and talked to every NPC to see the dialog changes after every main mission point to see what changed and their personal story.

>Started out fine in Roland

>Bose was okay, only had to walk around town a bit.

>Ruan was pretty but a pain. Going up to the gate, the city and the academy really drove me down.

>Going around Zeiss meant visiting the factory and going up the floors was a pain.

>But the worse was Grancel. Start the tournament and there's 5 sections of the city so visit everyone before the first round.

>Beat the first round and visit every one again to see different dialog.

>New day starts, walk around again, win again, go back and talk to everyone again.

>Final round, get up talk, win, then talk again.

>Go to bed at the inn that night and save wondering why I just spent 3 hours going through only 3 battles and seeing slightly different dialog.


909b2d  No.15900406

>>15900366

I hate when they hide side quests in that dialogue. I don't particularly want to miss side quests or read a guide or spend hours talking to random npcs.


2033a4  No.15900414

>>15900406

I'm pretty happy that CS fixed that by not changing dialogue until after a story request was completed.


4d7fa0  No.15900430

File: 97a8145c5f9d2da⋯.jpg (123.36 KB, 1621x509, 1621:509, ElieMouth.jpg)

>>15900366

Anon, that's nothing compared with the Crossbell games. The entire world map is usually available to you during most parts of Zero and Ao, meaning you have: Crossbell City itself, with 11 districts, each one containing buildings. To the east you have Armorica Village and Tangram Gate, to the south you have St Ursula's Hospital, which is basically a town by itself. To the west you have Bellguard Gate and to the north you have the church and Mainz Mining Village. Ao adds a few locations too, though thankfully it also adds a car for fast travel. Everyone in Crossbell city has dialogue update with quests and the people in the surrounding areas have dialogue each new day. Making the rounds to see what everyone said usually took me at least two hours. There are hundreds of NPCs to account for.

So yeah, you haven't seen anything.


b175a5  No.15900438

>>15900430

The horror.


2033a4  No.15900463

File: cf8df0d4e6dae26⋯.webm (205.31 KB, 800x450, 16:9, This is bliss.webm)

>>15900430

>A story event happens you so you only have to do the Crossbell city round


fdafa7  No.15902026

File: 6d1354dccd0e21b⋯.jpg (10.38 KB, 245x326, 245:326, metalstarts.jpg)

Shit, y'all weren't kidding about chapter 4 picking up, I haven't even controlled anything yet and absolutely everything is going down at once

Now this is what I fucking love about kiseki


702434  No.15902028

>>15900292

I told you bro. Hope you enjoyed those peaceful moments.

I love it when the games start to go full plot. Like everything planned and sleeping has been brought out at once.


4d7fa0  No.15902068

File: 0df1e371bd99c8d⋯.jpg (99.56 KB, 537x605, 537:605, RixiaPractice.jpg)

File: c2c61af5004ee6b⋯.jpg (167.39 KB, 1360x768, 85:48, ShirleyLaugh.jpg)


fdafa7  No.15902273

File: cffa06ee3f4d00e⋯.jpg (64.64 KB, 480x411, 160:137, eJwVzMENwyAMAMBdGADbEChkG0….jpg)

>cool shit going down, baller fights all around

>now go do some more side quests, faggot


4d7fa0  No.15902399

File: d3ca84d910a468b⋯.jpg (39.66 KB, 548x598, 274:299, Josette3.jpg)

>>15902273

Just do them faggot. You can fucking bust the guy who bilked the Capuas.It's literally the last time you have before everything goes to shit. Stop being autistic.


6b83e3  No.15902490

>>15895401

>They're probably skipping this sale.

>skipped sale in GoG

>they have a sale in steam

JUST!


5b590f  No.15902691

>>15902490

They've had their shit on sale plenty of times this year, I don't know why you didn't buy then

It is weird for them to skip out on the sale on GoG though regardless, maybe they felt like they'd done it too many times? I think they might have had 3-4 anime game sales where they were all on sale, along with some other times


c3228c  No.15902805

File: a1a7a51a14caf66⋯.png (106.23 KB, 512x512, 1:1, Josette_Capua_-_Bust_(FC_E….png)

>>15897929

Sorry when everyone goes right I go left. I cannot abide circle jerks. Its Reddit. I prefer individuality. And no Ys 8 was not Google translated. Its statements like that which make Xseed fans look stupid.

>>15902490

There is a winter sale on PlayStation Store right now.


909b2d  No.15902867

>>15902805

>There is a winter sale on PlayStation Store right now.

I'd hope none of you are dumb enough to give Sony a cut of your money with what they've been doing lately.


36755f  No.15902900

File: f326975fc24642b⋯.png (347.5 KB, 824x720, 103:90, Ai see a homo.png)

>>15902805

>Buys and defends NISA trash

>Promotes PS Store sales


4d7fa0  No.15903033

>>15902805

>Sorry when everyone goes right I go left.

Being a contrarian doesn't make you a unique snowflake, anon. Everything you do is still defined by the crowd. Taking the "unpopular" choice because it's unpopular is still being a faggot influenced by other people.


702434  No.15903359

>>15902805

Being a contrarian does not always make you right. It can make you stupid, especially when you defend NISA's shit-tier localization of Ys 8.


5b590f  No.15905615

>>15902805

Here's your (you)

Take it and fuck off back to cuckchan if they'll have your sorry ass


fdafa7  No.15911842

File: 4b591d50c40a448⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 15.21 KB, 232x265, 232:265, meautisticscreetch.png)

Well, I finished Ao no Kiseki a few minutes ago

Thoughts in two words? Underwhelming and sloppy.

First I'll admit it wasn't the story I was looking for, I was expecting some cool politics/warfare plot and it looked to be building up to that, but then swerved into a messy metaphysical "let's recreate the holy grail" plot and that really disappointed me, but I accepted that and will try not to let the bias the rest of what I have to say too much

I have a few gripes with the game, primarily the usage of the Crois family

Dieter turned into a cartoon dictator WAY too sudden for it to have any impact, and the reveal of the Crois being bad guys, while I admit I did see it coming back in Zero so that may have lessened the impact, was really kind of a wet fart. Dieter being discarded in the middle of the game and Grimwood put in his place, only to then do fuck all before apologizing, absolutely reeked of them wanting to stick an extra surprise in there but not knowing what to really do with it, it was extremely pointless, and you could have put any other extended cast member in Grimwood's place and seen no change. I'll admit I liked the reveal though because I hadn't foreseen it

Zeit was also a mostly unnecessary addition, all the info he gives us, as well as the help he provides Lloyd, could have easily been done by the Gralsritter that he meets up with moments later. He felt like an addition put in not because he was necessary, but by them not wanting to leave the "what the fuck is Zeit anyway?" plot point unanswered.

My biggest gripe of all was the usage of Bell, who is never given any motivation for being a villain outside of "because my family is evil so i am too". Dieter at least had his own sense of warped justice, a motivational tool that fit his actions both before and after, Bell has no such motivation, she just turns into Maleficent with no real explanation of her motivations. It's fine to have ambiguous villains, but she's just a blank slate

I have some more gripes, mostly nitpicks about specific elements that didn't seem very believable, but the rest was mostly fine, just not particularly interesting to me. The game really lacked the personal motivation for the party that the previous games had, with Noel in particular really not having any reason to be there at all in the end since she didn't even have any of the sub-bosses personally involved with her

Personally, I thought it was okay, but not great. I'd put it on par with TiTS FC. That last bit at the end where they showed the future of them dealing with the imperial occupation really slapped me in the face hard, "man, I sure wish I had gotten to play that instead" is the last thing you want to feel after completing a game you had been pretty excited for and spent a lot of time on.


8b3cdb  No.15911892

File: b58289887bb9e9b⋯.png (772.05 KB, 800x500, 8:5, イース8クリスマス.png)

Anyone else get the Christmas edition? Mine just came in, excited to finally play this.


8a3352  No.15911899

File: 8bad1a1efc55aa4⋯.jpg (53.55 KB, 256x326, 128:163, 8ba.jpg)

>>15911892

>Sony, Nisa and special edition

That's some coal you got there, goy.


8b3cdb  No.15911926

>>15911899

>Nisa

Nope


52f1f8  No.15911933

>>15902805

>ugh everyone keeps saying that 1 + 1 = 2, I hate that kind of cirkclejerk so I'm going to keep insisting that it equals 3

You're probably baiting because this is absurdly stupid, but you're defending objectively shit work just to be different. How fucking stupid are you?


4d7fa0  No.15911957

>>15911842

I'll be honest, I've always thought Ao was a bit on the overrated side too, especially considering how smug some people in the community get about it compared to Cold Steel. It got put on a pedestal because of it's exclusive status so people tended to overlook a good deal of it's flaws, the major one you noticed: it's villains suck. The one's that have motivations (and that's onlly some of them)


4d7fa0  No.15911975

File: c1eafd91765d1fd⋯.png (42.77 KB, 158x141, 158:141, KeAAlarmed.png)

>>15911957

>Posted without finsihing

The one's that have motivations (and that's onlly some of them) have poor ones, sometimes bordering on nonsensical.

Now one thing I should point out to you since it concerns What KeA became and Zeit, is that a Trails arc has to contain certain peices for the overall meta-narrative. The ultimate plot always has to deal with a Sept-Terrion, whcih KeA was. Also Zeit is part of that as he was the divine beas,t another part of each Sept-Terrion that has to be addressed. There are seven of these to get through for the entire meta-narrative of the series, so yes those were lingering questions, just perhaps not the ones you wanted answered specifically.


702434  No.15912008

My main problem with Ao is Lloyd. He's just so… blank. There's no spark to him. No true flaws like Rean, who's incredibly insecure and hates himself, or Estelle,who's as dumb as a sack of rocks. He's "I'm a stuck up no fun police officer" but all the girls want to suck his dick for that.

I like the girls overall but when it comes to Lloyd they're not written well. On their own they're not as mediocre as Alisa but when it comes to him they start acting like Alisa does to Rean. All blushing and flustered because they take some things he says out of context.

I found it hard to care about his motivations and his brother. I care more about every other character (Like Arios) instead of him.

I love Ao a lot but that's mostly because of the side characters and how it escalates. I would still rate it as one of my favourites because of the events, but I get what you guys are saying when it comes to the villains.


702434  No.15912069

File: 2e7037ab94c40bd⋯.jpg (126.59 KB, 700x625, 28:25, DvOL_6HUwAAkzVQ.jpg orig.jpg)


fdafa7  No.15912091

File: e54bbe600cc6bea⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 62.39 KB, 400x534, 200:267, pringles.jpg)

>>15912008

I didn't consider Lloyd stuck up, be he is very boring. He feels very bog standard "protagonist", in that he has no flaws at all, and is a mega super smart detective man. His relationships are all friendships that are fine, but the romances don't mesh well with it because they're all one-sided, and it almost seems like there was some mandate that no character could dislike him, everyone, even his enemies, need to like the guy. I honestly forgot his brother was a plot point at all at one point because it just doesn't matter.

>>15911975

I know they're trying to do the Sept-Terrion meta plot but Ao felt really bad compared to the events in SC and even 3rd.

The usage of the Aureole and the plot around it made sense, the villains had goals and personalities, personal and impersonal reasons to be there.

For the usage of KeA as a Sept-Terrion Ouroboros didn't even give enough of a fuck to stick around despite it being even more powerful than the Aureole, though I can give them a pass in that maybe the grandmaster made them leave it alone for some reason. The cast of sub-boss villains around the end of the game had extremely weak if any at all motivations and even the main cast didn't really have much to do with it in any big way, they just wanted to get KeA and stop the occupation. In contrast to the much more personal conflict of Joshua confronting his past and Estelle helping him do so, and the tangentially related Kevin fighting his own demons, the SSS defeating the Sept-Terrion of Zero felt more like "these dudes happened to be around and able so we sent them to do it". It was like a DnD campaign tier quest rather than the much better set up and execution of the previous games

I just hope I get some nice politics/warfare plot in Coldsteel because I personally dislike metaphysical plots and the like in rpgs nowadays. It feels like ever since Final Fantasy started doing it jap devs have decided they all have to be armchair philosophers that skimmed some Jungian literature once and decided their game needed it. I just want some damn realistic in-world stories that don't devolve into nonsense about the structure of life and all that garbage.

I give Kiseki a pass because they don't shove it in my face too much but it still annoys me a bit. At least its not Persona tier "the whole plot was irrelevant and the real boss is the manifestation of the inability for humankind to stop eating Pringles after the first one" shit.


4d7fa0  No.15913494

File: d6c9b65b07ffa56⋯.jpg (68.43 KB, 400x534, 200:267, OnceYouPop.jpg)

>>15912091

Don't forget, Ouroboros did have someone there. And yes, you have no idea what Ouroboros's business with all the Sept-Terrions is. Though, it's definitely not as simple as collecting all of them, I can at least you that. And, for what it's worth, some of this does come back in CS4.

As for CS, I think you'll find it's fairly political, although remember you are going back in time because CS1 and 2 take place at the same time as Zero and Ao. You won't get to deal much with the fallout of what happens in Ao until CS3 and 4. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on it as you go.


5b590f  No.15914912

File: ed99bc217baef5d⋯.mp4 (5.73 MB, 640x480, 4:3, Trails in The Sky Christma….mp4)

So I was listening to the TitS FC ost again while exercising today and I realized the first track fits ridiculously well as a track for a Christmas song, especially after the first 12 seconds. Just take a listen and relax.

Yes I know its a shitty video, I'm only a novice when it comes to this shit, no bully

Merry Christmas nerds


ae7864  No.15914970

File: 4d25c1a9cb12f28⋯.png (81.55 KB, 287x561, 287:561, 87946513248651.png)

>>15902691

>I don't know why you didn't buy then

being a poorfag is pure suffering, anon.


c61685  No.15914984

>>15914912

Merry Christmas, anon.


702434  No.15914992

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15914912

Thanks anon, Merry Christmas. It does work as a Christmas song.

This one also reminds me of Christmas.


568789  No.15916829

File: 3527f0442cda9f0⋯.jpg (950.66 KB, 3402x4677, 1134:1559, ys731.jpg)

Ys IX features Adol at his oldest age yet

>The latest issues of Weekly Famitsu and Dengeki PlayStation offer a few new details on the recently announced Ys IX: Monstrum Nox for PlayStation 4 via interviews with Falcom president and CEO Toshihiro Kondo.

>The concept of the game is the subtitle “Monstrum Nox” (Monsters’ Night) itself.

>The game’s setting, Baldeux, is a three-dimensional town with different elevations. Its outskirts include grasslands, forests, and ruins.

>Set in an era after Ys Seven, Adol will appear at his oldest age in the series yet. His name as an adventurer is becoming known all over the world.

>Party battles and simple controls return. Additionally, the game introduces supernatural actions that lean on the supernatural abilities possessed by Monstrum. Wall-running and moving as a shadow are also possible.

>The new “Guild Operations” system is an expansion of Ys VIII‘s “Drifting Village” system.

>The hooded woman equipped with artificial arms and legs is a major key to the game’s story.

>Development is currently 50 percent complete.

>Ys IX: Monstrum Nox is due out for PlayStation 4 in 2019 in Japan.

gematsu.com/2018/12/ys-ix-features-adol-at-his-oldest-age-yet

Trails series 15th anniversary developments

>Nihon Falcom: 2019 is the Trails series’ 15th anniversary. The Empire’s story ended in Trails of Cold Steel IV, but as a series there is still more to come. For the 15th anniversary, there may be unexpected development(s).

gematsu.com/2018/12/trails-series-15th-anniversary-developments-unannounced-atlus-titles-and-more-teased-in-game-industry-new-years-2019-greeting-cards


36f95e  No.15916855

>>15916829

>Wall-running and moving as a shadow are also possible.

>Wall-Running

This better fucking tie into the combat. Also I guess edgy pistol chick is this game's Dana.


568789  No.15916899

>>15916855

I'm positive it will be better implemented than in fucking KHDDD. Time for Falcom to show Square another lesson.


fdafa7  No.15917008

File: aabc853cc0aef0f⋯.jpg (12.92 KB, 261x301, 261:301, askingGodforstrength.jpg)

>>15916829

>unexpected developments

pls no NISA CS3

I'm expecting either announcement of Calvard trilogy starting or another duology in another state, North Ambria would be really cool and rather dark, but they would probably play it safe with Leman or Remiferia.

An Arteria game where you play as Gralsritter would be pretty cool too but I think they count TiTS3rd as that already


fdafa7  No.15917013

or actually, the real shit everyone's waiting for

Nayuta translation


36f95e  No.15917024

>>15917013

The machine translation wasn't that bad.


568789  No.15918149

>>15917024

I bet you were ok with the original Ys 8 translation.


d5dfff  No.15918157

>>15917008

Worst case scenario, Nisa is contracted to do CS 3 and 4. Do you buy it?


c61685  No.15918170

>>15918157

Not him but I still haven’t bought Ys 8 and won’t until I’m stable enough in Jap. Same thing will happen if NISA gets CS3 and/or 4.


d5dfff  No.15918243

>>15918170

We have id's here.


4d7fa0  No.15918309

File: 493c54e32072fb0⋯.jpg (25.24 KB, 203x253, 203:253, FieArms.jpg)

>>15917008

>pls no NISA CS3

Considering that quote was for the Japanese press, that is almost certainly not what he's referring to. It doesn't mean it won't happen, but there's pretty much no way that is what that quote is about.

>>15918157

>Worst case scenario, Nisa is contracted to do CS 3 and 4. Do you buy it?

No. I already am fully spoiled on the plot of both CS3 and 4. The only real appeal for the English versions would be NPCs, which NISA would fuck up, and hearing the characters in their dubbed voices, which NISA would probably also fuck up with recasts. So there wouldn't be much point.

That being said, I still think there's a chance XSeed gets them. While the bad news about Hatsuu and Tom came soon after, the PS4 versions of CS1 and 2 are still a really interesting hint, as is them ponying up for dual audio. So I don't think all hope is lost yet.


1117c5  No.15918329

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15916829

>party battles will return


9b5fe2  No.15918382

>>15918243

He said "not that guy" because the anon he responded to directed his question at someone else; also IDs change


36f95e  No.15918629

I think I gave Ys Seven too much shit. I've started replaying it again and I feel the 60 FPS port makes quite a lot of difference, and that two headed turtle boss was actually kind of fun instead of a tedious slog with too much health which was what I remembered


fdafa7  No.15919166

File: e0681d8b0f70601⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 26.83 KB, 624x468, 4:3, cat_think.jpg)

Now for the real issue

Who to choose to waifu in Coldsteel

I like Laura, Emma, and Sara. Fie I guess is okay too but from personal experience trying to get close to a girl that doesn't talk much is a huge pain in the ass and it really soured me on that character archetype.


fdafa7  No.15919172

fucking 8ch defaults all my images to being spoilered now due to hitting the checkmark once

Fix your shit chodemonkey


702434  No.15919203

>>15919166

My personal favourites are those three you mentioned, Emma, Laura and Sara, in no particular order. Fie is kind of like a cat.

I went with Emma on my first playthrough because I love mature types, and she's short and curvy. Laura acts mature but is incredibly awkward in a cute way when dealing with things she's not sure about. And Sara is just… Sara.


2e2e87  No.15921439

File: 8983c0545bfecf0⋯.jpg (2.44 MB, 3337x2042, 3337:2042, 1545926534523.jpg)

File: 8939785b00082fb⋯.jpg (2.62 MB, 3337x2042, 3337:2042, 1545926854878.jpg)

More info about the new Ys


dfe630  No.15921575

>>15921439

>second image

We get to play Gies again?


4d7fa0  No.15922609

File: 58275d08a1933eb⋯.png (887.27 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, LauraDomestic.png)

File: 7a9a72f74e9ede9⋯.jpg (93.23 KB, 600x849, 200:283, Emma1.jpg)

File: aa381f2a2f7c894⋯.png (2.03 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, FieSleep.png)

File: 7052f2156051ef1⋯.png (609.2 KB, 1224x339, 408:113, SaraHigherEducaion.png)

File: 2c48cc522af7efc⋯.jpg (128.41 KB, 1600x900, 16:9, TowaHeadRubber.jpg)

>>15919166

Each one of those girls is great for different reasons.

Laura is pretty much exactly what she seems like. A dignified, cool-headed sword autist. She's also a beast in combat which means she'll likely be a mainstay even if you don't waifu her. She and Rean have a lot in common, as well. She leans a bit into some tomboy tropes (namely afraid she's not feminine enough and gets flustered easily around romantic situations), but I wouldn't go in expecting the full tomboy experience. Her scenes can get pretty cute and adorable (especially her final CS2 scene) and she has great and satisfying stuff in CS4. She's all around a great choice in every game.

Emma has a lot going for her, but you kind of have to wait for it to get good. She doesn't have a lot to do in CS1 because they try to keep her mysterious and while that does improve in CS2 she still feels a little underutilized and I feel like her final bond event in CS2 could have been a little better. She really starts coming in to her own in CS3 and 4 though (she's almost main heroine status in CS4) and she had some great scenes. You have to be willing to invest though.

Fie will grow on you, don't worry. She has an arc and she'll start opening up more. I'd take the time to do her events because she can be a lot of fun. Laura and Emma are pretty straight laced, so it's nice to have a character like Fie who's kind of a troll. Her scenes in CS1 and 2 are pretty good, but like Emma she comes into her own in the later half of the series and she becomes a full-on romance in CS4. Laura and Emma become more obviously romantic earlier.

Sara is a lot of fun and obviously has great cake appeal. Her events in CS1 and 2 are great and her final CS2 bonding events are definitely worth seeing even if you don't ultimately go with her. I felt of the six endgame romances in CS4 hers was the least well handled. I definitely wanted more out of it. It's possible an official English translation would make it better, but the scenes for the other girls generally were sweeter and more cute in my opinion. It's still satisfying to get an actual romance end with Sara, though.

Towa is also there and she is kind of understated in the first couple of games. I honestly wasn't sure if they were going to make her a romance in the end because her CS2 scene was so tame as to seem completely platonic, but they went with it in the end and it's pretty cute. She's just hardworking and supportive,so she's just generally nice to have around.


08404f  No.15926932

What the fuck is up with price for ys 8 on ps4? I can't believe a ps4 game in this day and age has such limited availability, and prices are already hitting $100+


8e52e9  No.15928037

>>15926932

Limited physical run due to retards going

>muh digital

seems the most likely culprit.


6d9e62  No.15928132

File: 84855b1c977c4a5⋯.jpg (903.62 KB, 1065x1093, 1065:1093, NO funa.jpg)

>CS5 announced when CS 3/4 is nowhere near being released outside of japan

Maybe it is time to just spoil everything. I'll never get to play it anyways.


c61685  No.15928163

>>15928132

Are you trying to make a funny, anon? It's not working.


4d7fa0  No.15928181

File: 8a7d2c07146f94a⋯.png (226.92 KB, 657x245, 657:245, SenFinished.png)

>>15928132

Anon don't be dumb. I saw the ending. It definitely ended. There will be more Kiseki, obviously, but not for a while yet.


175253  No.15928246

File: 3eaa0da9d75e7d6⋯.jpg (48.74 KB, 359x353, 359:353, Axelreido navrahn _8fc2049….jpg)

I was thinking of getting into Falcom games, and after consulting the images OP posted a bit of other research and I wanted a bit of advice of where to start for Ys and where to get The Trails series of games.

I sort of arbitrarily picked Oath In Felghana, but is there a good starting point that I should try for Ys?

As for Trails, I saw that I could get them on GOG, but the Trails guide dosen't have any comment on the quality of the different ports. I'd like to get it portable on my vita, but is the quality of the PSP/vita ports considerably lower than the PC ports like Ys?


4d7fa0  No.15928307

>>15928246

Trails in the Sky on PSP is only FC to my knowledge. SC and 3rd never came out unless you speak moon. So those are all PC only if you speak English. Crossbell, which has fan translations now, I guess could theoretically be added to your PSP as long as it's hacked. Cold Steel 1 and 2 could be played portably with the Vita, but the Vita version is also the worst one, with a pretty bad framerate and poor resolution among other issues. Honestly PC is the best way to play Trails. There's a lot of added features that just makes quality of life way better like turbo mode and much faster saving, and Cold Steel has added VA too. Or dual audio if you prefer that (though with less voice). The Vita version does not and will not have dual audio. So, if possible, PC is the way to go. And for those you want to play them in release order for the most coherent experience since Trails is all about a single continuous evolving narrative.

With Ys you can jump around a bit more because each story is basically self contained. You just need to know Adol is a very talented swordsman, he loves adventure and his best bro is Dogi, who is a strong blue haired dude who can smash through walls. They get involved in various unrelated adventures. The gameplay evolves over time, of course, which can make playing older titles after newer ones feel strange (Trails, in comparison is very similar across all games), but for the most part you can pick a direction and go in it. Oath is a fine place to start, but you could also do something like Origin. I know very little about the Ys ports because I've only played them on PC.


5b590f  No.15928356

>>15928246

I would recommend you play Trails on PC, or at least the TitS trilogy. Turbo mode is far too good of a feature to give up. This is coming from someone who loves the Vita.

Plus the sound work on the PC is incredible and really benefits from high-quality headphones.

You can do both FC and SC on the Vita though, no problems afaik outside of you not getting the benefits of the nice things that come with the PC port, Turbo mode is a huge deal as one of them.

For Ys I would recommend starting with Chronicles just to get a full picture and understanding. People say you can understand each Ys game without playing in order, but I would really recommend Chronicles to fully understand everything first.

The PC ports usually have a few nice upgrades over the Vita versions for the games, with turbo mode usually being the key one along with the higher resolution and excellent optimization and frame rate.

Since they're turn-based games though, it doesn't make nearly as much of a difference as it would for real-time games. The Ys games are entirely playable on Vita, but for frame rate reasons and options of different controllers of preference they're usually better to play on PC. Again though, Turbo mode is fucking huge and the reason why I would play them on PC if I didn't know better. It speeds up the combat immensely (and iirc the general movement, but I can't remember that one with certainty as its been a little while) and I pretty much always had it on the whole time I was playing. The combat would've felt as slow as molasses without it, and trust me anon as I have some pretty high patience and tolerance for JRPG combat but TitS was just excessive. My playtime would've possibly been doubled or worse without turbo mode, and for context i put around… roughly 175-200 hours into the trilogy. My GoG-Galaxy recorded hours differ from my in-game hours for some reason; I have no idea how much turbo mode affected that if at all.

Start with Trails in the Sky if that wasn't obvious for the trails games, then Crossbell or Cold Steel. Its a slow burn series of games but goddamn if they aren't fucking masterpieces.

>>15928307

SC is also available on PSP which can be played on Vita. I think or wouldn't be surprised if TitS 3rd had the official translation injected in by hackers in the Vita community, but i know SC and FC were both translated officially by XSEED and are available.

The Vita also has undub options available for the ToCS games, assuming you've hacked them.


175253  No.15928385

>>15928356

>>15928307

Thanks for the help, I think I'll wait for a sale for trials and Ys on GOG, unless they hardly go on sale.

If that Is the case, I think I'll probably bite the bullet and get trails since I'll probably prefer the SRPG gameplay.


4d7fa0  No.15928401

>>15928385

They go on sale a few times a year. Sadly I think you just missed the winter sale on GoG by a few weeks. Steam had one too, fairly recently, Just keep your eyes on it.


52f1f8  No.15928413

File: 572bf9f60b82efb⋯.jpg (379.68 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Untitled46.jpg)

File: 421533ae77ebcd6⋯.png (23.26 KB, 584x58, 292:29, 2.png)

>>15922609

Towa is wonderful. Too bad she has been shafted gameplay-wise, at least in the two games I've played.

>>15928356

>It speeds up the combat immensely (and iirc the general movement, but I can't remember that one with certainty as its been a little while)

It works out of combat too. I think you have separate speeds settings for turbo in and out of combat, even.


4d7fa0  No.15928436

File: 30c32fe2aaa529a⋯.jpg (148.83 KB, 947x1200, 947:1200, Towa.jpg)

File: 9d01c42313eb3b7⋯.png (771.82 KB, 827x1169, 827:1169, Towa2.png)

File: 4f4c5d5b2c7fc73⋯.png (601.77 KB, 582x877, 582:877, TowaHair.png)

File: 2bfc677e7f51a58⋯.jpg (129.52 KB, 966x1131, 322:377, Towa5.jpg)

File: 964422a223cc5ec⋯.gif (1.46 MB, 400x217, 400:217, Towa.gif)

>>15928413

Towa isn't playable at all in 3 and 4, but by comparison is around a lot more due to being Rean's co-worker. In fact, in fact she's pretty much the only member of Rean's close circle of friends who is actually with him full time in CS3. In kind of endeared me to her a lot. It's also when you actually start getting some backstory on her and such. Her final romance scene is very cute too.


52f1f8  No.15928457

>>15928436

>keep adding new characters and inflating the cast and party

>while ignoring the ones that were there from the start

It's worse since they went and made her an entire new unique weapon type and actually made her playable in 2, for all of one battle not counting the postgame dungeon where everyone shows up.


fdafa7  No.15929503

File: 36d8de29199842a⋯.jpg (73.74 KB, 887x665, 887:665, 582e1f96e02ba738018b503f.jpg)

Machias is a bitch-ass whiny nigga who's too beta to even enter the library when Juice is there

He's got college liberal tier angst oozing out of his every pore

He desperately needs to be bullied into submission


702434  No.15929515

>>15929503

>He desperately needs to be bullied into submission

Sexually?


4d7fa0  No.15929621

File: e090137cfff0a66⋯.jpg (159.03 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, FieMachiasNag.jpg)

>>15929503

He's get even more annoying in Chapter 2 before mellowing out, and then yes people just make fun of him a lot. Especially Fie.


568789  No.15930965

>>15928246

Just play them on PC and forget about consoles.


fdafa7  No.15931324

I wish I could waifu Ferris or Vivi


4d7fa0  No.15931800

File: f7ea7803dec16e9⋯.jpg (106.87 KB, 960x544, 30:17, ViviEdel.jpg)

>>15931324

Vivi at least is a good choice. Never had any strong feelings about Ferris one way or the othern


4d7fa0  No.15932818

File: 7eb599d08654956⋯.png (448.69 KB, 831x889, 831:889, ArtAlisa1.png)

File: 7aece1d2429a48d⋯.png (436.46 KB, 807x874, 807:874, ArtAltina1.png)

File: be12045a5a5d812⋯.png (73.76 KB, 196x473, 196:473, ArtDuvalie1.png)

File: 2f393b58f1e5b75⋯.png (384.98 KB, 828x891, 92:99, ArtEmma1.png)

File: 9ad8d0370ccad31⋯.png (387.91 KB, 834x879, 278:293, ArtFie1.png)

>We almost got brown Fie


4d7fa0  No.15932820

File: 263b78745379eca⋯.png (368.96 KB, 806x942, 403:471, ArtJuna1.png)

File: aa4c296d3b791eb⋯.png (377.1 KB, 826x870, 413:435, ArtLaura1.png)

File: 7a171e0b2bf3820⋯.png (456.49 KB, 831x959, 831:959, ArtMusse1.png)

File: c0a9d7a1138e435⋯.png (481.69 KB, 822x888, 137:148, ArtSara1.png)

File: 05feec9e4fea67c⋯.png (595.95 KB, 766x878, 383:439, ArtSara2.png)


702434  No.15932876

File: e764cdfc217e42f⋯.gif (4.88 MB, 227x394, 227:394, e764cdfc217e42f66e9037ff4f….gif)

>>15932820

>>15932818

I thought I was gonna open the few characters that interested me but I ended up opening all of them.


702434  No.15932894

File: e9e37b265903e1b⋯.png (422.09 KB, 848x1200, 53:75, e2b137fbea382bd7eebcb307cf….png)

File: f865925a4fed565⋯.png (491.65 KB, 848x1200, 53:75, 0f2c1b261ed1fd247fec30720a….png)

File: a6376a5a181f2d5⋯.png (445.81 KB, 992x1403, 992:1403, e8daf4c9e0825dd58545503292….png)

>>15932876

>>15932820

Also Juna wearing denim shorts and that bikini top reminds me of Sandworks' art of Mika Jougasaki (from Idolmaster).


6a81e6  No.15933154

>>15932820

>Magical Gothlolita Sara

Why the hell didn't they go with that, since Fie already covered Ninja Girl?


4d7fa0  No.15933164

>>15933154

Believe it or not Magical Girl Alisa actually has some degree of a canon, and in it Sara and Fie are ninjas.


6a81e6  No.15933174

>>15933164

Oh really? Unfortunately, the most I know about it is Demon Lord Rean. Well, that's too bad.

Anyways, I'm curious, were there alternate designs in consideration for Witch Emma?


4d7fa0  No.15933983

File: d652e192ff176f7⋯.png (109.21 KB, 199x489, 199:489, EmmaMagicConcept.png)

>>15933154

>were there alternate designs in consideration for Witch Emma?

Only one.


d5dfff  No.15933992

>>15931324

>>15931800

I imagine that she would trick you all the time into getting into awkward situations with Linde by tricking you into thinking she was Vivi. And then threesome.

>>15932818

>>15932820

You know Fie really grew a lot between 2 and 3. Untied hair juna is pretty nice.


4d7fa0  No.15934033

File: 309a399aa385a60⋯.jpg (83.55 KB, 700x574, 50:41, Fie1.jpg)

>>15933992

I always thought Vivi was mostly putting on airs and if you ever called her bluffs she would totally break down in embarrassment. CS3 and 4 kind of lead into this because Linde has more or less learned to not take her shit. Rean, however, is still a pushover as always. Also yeah, Fie did grow. She's 18 by the end of CS4.


2033a4  No.15934368

File: 5a4bb9116489066⋯.jpg (119.9 KB, 591x470, 591:470, Absolute nectar.jpg)

>>15932818

>That Duvalie


88d366  No.15935417

So I'm playing FC right now. I own all the English games so I guess the questions I have are this. Is Crossbell important to play? Will it be translated officially? Are the fan translations passable? Do I play Crossbell if its important before Cold Steel 1 and 2 because I heard playing Crossbell spoils Cold Steel and vice versa. Should I just play through Sky and Cold Steel and just wait and see?


5b590f  No.15935459

>>15935417

Just worry about playing TitS for now, those questions come later anon


2033a4  No.15935496

>>15935417

What this guy >>15935459 said.

But to give a quick answer to this:

>Do I play Crossbell if its important before Cold Steel 1 and 2 because I heard playing Crossbell spoils Cold Steel and vice versa

Storywise, it doesn't really matter. Gameplaywise, Crossbell gradually changes the gameplay from TitS mechanics to CS mechanics.

So if you play CS before Zero, you will be suddenly surprised at this new orbment system.


e30eb3  No.15936726

So anons, ive finished cs 1 and 2, the entire sora trilogy, and have zero/ao on standby. I also have the gagharv series waiting i know translations are rough, i dont mind. However, ive been looking for other jrpgs to spend my time in. Mind you i didnt play much of any from older systems as i didnt get into the genre until later. Ive gone and tried xenogears, grandia, nier, drakengard, and others i cant think of off the top of my head. However, coming from these types of games with rather massive world building and political intrigue, nothing seems to grasp my interest. Is there anything similar to these games? Finding other jrpgs is becoming something im starting to hate and im about ready to just never leave falcom games. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


5b590f  No.15936805

>>15936726

You could try some older western games as they used to have those kinds of traits.

Fallout 1 and 2, Diablo 1, the Might and Magic series, Arcanum, etc.

Unfortunately there's not many JRPGs that take a high amount of world-building and political intrigue. People like to say that the Trails games are traditional JRPGs but that's baloney in my book.

Traditional JRPGs would be more akin to Dragon Quest, the 2D Final Fantasy games,and Chrono Trigger . The Trails games are something else entirely, as they are some of the only Japanese games to have connected stories across multiple games whereas most JRPGs are usually self-contained, and sequels are usually only tenuous with different stories in the same world (notably changed with a few nods to the older one) at different points in time. NPCs are usually just characters that solely exist to give you items or information in traditional JRPGs, with a few exceptions here and there. There's some great JRPGs out there but few with the kind of traits you're looking for and none immediately come to my mind anon, sorry


b4d4e6  No.15936849

>>15936805

This is what i am sadly beginning to consider. While people pop the JRPG title onto trails, it simply seems to be its own type of sub-JRPG that deviates from what are considered to be the popular JRPGs. I really am trying to go through JRPGs that people highly recommend but the problem im running into is that it feels like a lot of them were good when people were kids.

For example, having just spent 10 hours in grandia i feel that this game was something people enjoyed in the psx era when a lot of them were younger and able to take in plots that amounted to "good is good, bad is bad, lets go on an adventure!". I certainly enjoyed the initial charm of the game but it wore off so fast. I just dont have the desire to keep playing a game with such a boring plot that ive seen in so many shows and other games.

Ive come across the same problem in other games from the FF series. I tried 1-4 and while i did beat them, i was playing them at a job where my breaks had nothing else to do. It wasnt so much enjoyment as it was "glad i can do SOMETHING". I recently tried ffvi but found it to be rather boring story wise and seemed like it was better in its time. FFX was teenagers and i couldnt relate. FFXIII was incredibly linear for my tastes, felt like a game on rails. And thats about all ive tried in the FF series.

Whats weird is that the trails game had these some tropes: good/evil, little kids, teenagers in a school setting of all things, and everything else these other JRPGs seem to carry. I cannot for the life of me figure out why i dont jive with them at all. Maybe its the combat system? I got really autistic with the orb system and truly enjoyed it. Or maybe its just how extensive this story is. I really have no idea why im struggling with finding enjoyment im JRPGs outside of falcom games. I even enjoyed tokyo ex.

The games you listed as being traditional are all ones ive tried, but they all fail to hold my interest. I think i may try a few more JRPGs before giving up and realizing a book will be a far more entertaining medium for me. I dont HATE the games ive discussed (maybe some) its just that i dont find them nearly as enthralling. Im surprised to hear diablo 1 is a recommendation. Ill have to give it a go. If you can come up with any others id greatly appreciate it.


4d7fa0  No.15936872

File: 23e7867e0ffb02f⋯.png (17.77 KB, 148x125, 148:125, GrandiaNanaSakiMio.png)

>>15936849

I enjoyed Grandia at the time, but I'll fully admit it's less complex and interesting than Trails. I kind of liked the simplicity a bit, though. So many RPGs were starting to go into the more "dark, moody and emotive" angle so seeing something just about how great adventure is was kind of nice. You might try Skies of Arcadia. It's not as complex as Trails and it's less nuanced, but I still think there's a lot of good in it and it kind of captures that era of exploration thing pretty well.


b4d4e6  No.15936887

>>15936872

Thats generally what i picked up from a lot of forums i browsed through. A lot of the people who played it at the time absolutely loved it while the few who came in later were mostly "eh" towards it. Its not bad its just very simple. If i were 12 or 13 is probably really like it. I had heard of skies of arcadia being recommended right alongside grandia which has me some what worried but i plan to give it a shot. Heard the encounter rate is awful which, i wont lie, one major appeal that trails and grandia had were enemies on the map. Random encounters are just not my thing but im willing to use cheats so not a major deal for me


fdafa7  No.15936893

File: a842c0fc12e5926⋯.png (858.65 KB, 950x612, 475:306, a842c0fc12e59264ca7c12c9af….png)

>>15936849

I've heard people bring up FF5 an FF6 as the best out there so many times and every time I've tried them they've been so sparse with such little plot it gets boring after only a few hours. I can't understand how people thought games like that were deep.

Another big issue I've found with JRPGs as I grow older is that not only are the stories usually pretty barren, they also force in some bullshit philosophical nonsense that the devs themselves barely understand. I don't think I'll ever comprehend why they feel so compelled to stick shit like that in their games instead of just tell a compelling story using the world they made. Why discard your setting for some 2smart4you bullshit and make your story irrelevant?


4d7fa0  No.15936915

>>15936887

Using cheats for Skies for the encounter rate is not a bad idea at all.


b4d4e6  No.15936950

>>15936893

The only thing i can think of is that the majority of these people played the games at the time of release. They think its a great game because there wasnt much else released and games werent as easily obtainable as they are now. I mean the people who recommended FFVI to me were at least 5-10 years older than me. Every person i encounter who says a FF game is good is either older or played it at a time when they were kids. A lot of my age group played 7 when they were younger and herald it as the epitome of their childhood. I played mega man legends and anyone who didnt play it at the time of release thinks its bad. At the end of the day i think nostalgia plays a huge roll in how people perceive games.

Your second point is another issue i have with jrpgs. In trails there never felt like there was a philosophy being pushed so much as their was mostly just a grand story with a bit of "friendships are powerful!". I really cannot stand when people recommend a game because its deep. So far every recommendation ive gotten has been incredibly strange japanese takes on christianity and religious symbols thrown in because they felt like it would make it seem more deep than it truly was. Again, i think this goes back to two things:

1.) The people who played these supposedly deep games were young at the time and the themes really hit home with them and to them that was the moment they began to think thoughts past "i wonder whats on TV tonight". In other words, they became self aware and were able to look at themselves and others a bit more deeply than they had.

2.) This is similar to 1 but happens more when a normalfag stumbles on a deep game later in life and are amazed that games can get deep. Most often they havent really thought about life to any significant degree and are now feeling like the game opened up new insights to them.

Im not saying that either of these are bad things, but im at a point where ive been exposed to rather heavy readings and when i see some trite attempt at "understanding life/good/evil/humanity" in a game i cant help but feel annoyed. I want, as you mention, for them to tell a story using the world that theyve built. This is something i believe trails excels at as it doesnt focus on trying to touch on some deep aspect. Rather it uses each game to tell a little more about the world youre in and the wild stories that happen in them. This is probably a bit of an over comparison but it felt like legend of the galactic heroes but different. Not a great comparison but basically it managed to create its own world and while it did touch on certain cliche themes, its primary goal was the world building and story telling. Maybe i just need to accept that there arent any other games like them and as the other anon said, stop considering it to be a JRPG. Im clearly not enjoying the JRPG genre. Going to start lunar up and see if i like it. Still looking for suggestions if any of you have any.

>>15936915

Absolutely intend to. Like i said, random encounters make me want to kill myself. I want to explore and get on with my tasks not sit there and kill a slightly different variation enemy for the hundredth time while spamming my attack button.


5b590f  No.15937017

File: 49244bd74449933⋯.png (47.18 KB, 1773x265, 1773:265, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15936849

Diablo 1 was a much more unexpected one for me, but I greatly appreciated the whole experience it gave me. The NPCs in Tristram are absolutely dense with dialogue and it changes every time you go into the labyrinth giving you more understanding about the village, its inhabitants and the labyrinth as well as their own thoughts, ambitions, ideals and how they've dealt with the horrors. Its "world" is compact, but so much is done in it that I couldn't not give it credit. Its very underrated for what it is. The fact that they all also have something to say on near every quest you'll take is also great as well. Much like in the Trails games I would always talk to all of them before heading back into the labyrinth when you come back up to town, and I would also talk to all of them for every quest you receive as well.

Anyways I made this sort of comparison before when I was gushing over TitS a few months ago, but one of the compelling things about the Trails series of games is their format being akin to an epic like Lord of the Rings or the Iliad and Odyssey (easy and well-known examples I know, but the point is clearly made) whereas most JRPGs would be like single novels. Few JRPGs and really games in general can match the "epic" format that Trails has, and the amount of work and most notably detail that went into establishing these places and people is incredible.

>>15936950

Sometimes simple is nice, but usually for me its about the characters in those types of games than the plot itself. How well the writers can manipulate my emotions and put together a scene becomes more of an important factor there in my enjoyment. Its not the same as enjoying some great work in those kinds of games (for me at least) as it is about flooding your body with adrenaline the way a (possibly cheesy) action movie might during an intense moment and making it memorable. That's generally how I enjoy those kinds of games. I think both have their places.

I'll keep trying to think of something for you anon. Maybe try branching out and looking for the more niche stuff might net you more luck.

Something a bit more unusual that might fit with what you're looking for and I've heard decent things about was Stranger of Sword City Revisited, though keep in mind that's a DRPG.


b77381  No.15937047

File: fb7b74b98d5906c⋯.jpg (93.56 KB, 650x1350, 13:27, Azwel top kek.jpg)

>>15891653

>mfw Snoy were the ones censoring games during development the whole time and not Nintendo

This is shit is way too funny on so many levels.


b4d4e6  No.15937053

>>15937017

Diablo 1 is not what i envisioned it to be. I will definitely be giving it a try after i wrap up a few games im in currently. But as you say, the fact these games extend over so many titles is what makes it such a fun story to follow. Not to mention i have never felt such a rush of emotions whenever olivier made an entrance. The characters are such crucial parts in these trails game and falcom absolutely nails them combined with xseeds translations.

Like you say, each game has its place and they excel at the aspects they aim for (usually). I just think that after spending so much time trying to get into a JRPG i am finally realizing im better off reading a good book. Ive gotten diablo and stranger of sword city on my list to play. Weirdly i can get through a DRPG if i enjoy it. So ill see how they go when i begin. I appreciate all the replies you anons have provided me with so far. Helps me feel better about my attempt at playing all these JRPGs and failing.


702434  No.15937192

>>15937047

It'd be funny if it weren't so sad. Because devs are insistent on making games for the console.


18a1f7  No.15937267

>>15936849

Plotwise it's usually the "tactical" RPGs with the best stories, I don't know what it is about games which relies on strategy and tactics during the psx era but for some reason these are the games which brings out the higher quality stories on average.


b77381  No.15939392

>>15937047

>This shit is way too funny on so many levels

Fixed. I should really start re-reading by post before I post them.


4d7fa0  No.15939422

File: 0e7f3affd3c1e80⋯.jpg (222.2 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, AlisaSlut.jpg)

File: 0e5461c0ba951e8⋯.jpg (135.58 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, AlisaSlut1.jpg)

File: 1c0a428060e6b38⋯.jpg (128.32 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, AlisaSlut2.jpg)

File: 1e617f5b7d36436⋯.jpg (129.15 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, AlisaSlut3.jpg)

>>15939392

>>15937047

Well Falcom hasn't been hit with the Soyny hammer yet. Hell they even released a lewd Alisa outfit promoting PS+ of all things…


b77381  No.15939448

>>15939422

Wasn't that game released before Snoy dropped their new No Nippon Games Allowed policy? I was implying for any game after the new policy was placed.


4d7fa0  No.15939459

>>15939448

No. It was released in late September well after they had started. the DLC was released even later than that in like late October or early November or something.


fdafa7  No.15939712

File: bbdeb51c3c394f8⋯.jpg (7.27 KB, 300x300, 1:1, IMG_20171027_130607.jpg)

Chapter 3 and 4 have kind of ruined Laura for me. The entire subplot of her and Fie not liking each other is nothing but Fie being normal and Laura being a pissy bitch for no reason. They try to excuse it as "well she's not trying to get mad", nigger she wouldn't be acting like a cunt if she wasn't trying to be. It's so badly written that its soured me on Laura altogether.


d5dfff  No.15939736

>>15939712

I agree. Laura has many other redeeming features though, but I never particularly liked that story line or the way she acted in it.


4d7fa0  No.15939820

>>15939712

Laura is just autistic and didn't know how to deal with Fie. She gets over it fast and it never becomes an issue again.


c61685  No.15939833

>>15939712

She isn’t trying to be like that. You ever have that moment when you find out something about someone you know and it just makes things a bit awkward? That’s the situation. Is it poorly done? yeah. It’s just an excuse for artificial conflict in the group but it’s still true to Laura as a character. She’s the stereotypical knight who sees that role as absolute to an autistic degree. Having a jeager in the same group as her doesn’t sit right with her at that point.


62d5fa  No.15940666

>>15939422

Don't worry anon I'm sure reset era will inevitably find out about the outfit and bitch until it's removed! fuck my shit up bro


4d7fa0  No.15940708

>>15940666

Reset Era hates everything that's not Sky, Satan. Cold Steel has a gross harem protagonist so they already hate it, but unlike with certain other topics their Falcom base is so small as to be entirely unimportant.


5b590f  No.15940717

>>15940708

but Sky had a harem protagonist too


4d7fa0  No.15940883

File: 3dc2d595e06493d⋯.jpg (167.98 KB, 1024x701, 1024:701, Estelle.jpg)

>>15940717

But Estelle was the main character and she's so quirky and fun!

I actually really like Estelle but Reset Era's worship of her is annoying and frankly I don't like the way they act about her.


5b590f  No.15940944

>>15940883

I was referring to Joshua

They were both protagonists in some kind of dual-way, though Estelle was slightly more so so I guess that makes her the main/actual one if you want to split hairs

>Resetera worships Estelle

That's weird and wrong feeling to me, but I think that's just more me disliking the fact that colossal faggots like the same thing I do


945a4d  No.15941259

>>15940944

As someone who really dislikes JRPGs Estelle's arc alone got me through the Sky trilogy.

The same could not be said for Fie and Cold Steel but I might give 2 a shot at some point, as long as the gameplay gets engaging at some point because my finger gets tired from holding turbo mode.


1117c5  No.15941577

>>15941259

>As someone who really dislikes JRPGs Estelle's arc alone got me through the Sky trilogy.

I always figured that's because Sky feels more like a shoujo story instead of most JRPGs, so you won't find a lot of the standard clichés (merely a different set of them) you'd find in something like Coldsteel and the Crossbell games.

>>15940883

>I don't like the way they act about her

I guess for all the posturing about good female characterization they can't resist going full YAAAAS QUEEN SLAAAY if a girl shows some spunk


2033a4  No.15942117

File: 0adf8f00a8bc85e⋯.jpg (1.09 MB, 3840x2160, 16:9, bcbdde7d0a787c3b6359db6ae7….jpg)


b77381  No.15942319

File: bd3bc1f3cf074a8⋯.webm (407.8 KB, 640x360, 16:9, thanks satan.webm)

>>15939459

When did Snoy started their censorship policy anyway? I thought it was started around October of 2018.

>>15940666

Webm related


4d7fa0  No.15942632

>>15942319

They started in the Summer and ramped up from there. We had already had several censorship controversies with Sony by then.


5b590f  No.15945574

>>15942117

whose posts were deleted?


4d7fa0  No.15945605

>>15945574

Not sure why you're quoting that but likely there was some unreported spam in here from one of the bots.


945a4d  No.15945709

I need some opinions on Ys MoCelceta. I think I'm about done with Ys Seven(Just got one more dragon to visit and then I assume it's time for the final dungeon) and I want to know if it's an improvement over Seven.

>Does SP gain improve, do I still need to fuck up my thumb holding for a charge attack

>Are bosses tougher(from an attacks standpoint and not an HP standpoint because I felt some bosses in 7 had too much health)

>Are there less weapons/armors in Celceta than there are at 7?

>Is there an actual waifu this time in your party or is it just the villain again

>>15945605

Speak of the devil.


4d7fa0  No.15945715

>>15945709

Christ I can't believe he's that pathetic.


945a4d  No.15945791

>>15945715

Fuck that attention whore, talk to me about Ys instead please


b77381  No.15946173

>>15942632

Ok but that doesn't explain why cold steel 3 or soul calibur 6 got a free pass from Snoy. Or is Snoy approaching their censorship policy by using the boiling the frog in slow, building hot water trick by letting a few jap games from bigger devs/companies go uncensored first then start forcing said games from bigger devs/companies to comply with Snoy's censorship policy later on?


702434  No.15946516

>>15946173

Bigger devs (like Bandai) or exclusives (Cold Steel 3/4) probably have more sway?

Either that or they're focusing on similar "types" of games, like VNs or beach volleyball.


4d7fa0  No.15946964

>>15946173

They are making a bigger push for VNs clearly. Especially things that have CGs. Senran has the petting mode which they can come down on as an excuse (and indeed was the one thing they attacked). The only lewd thing CS has is outfits (and pantyshots if you work for it) and those outfits are DLC. It's low profile and Japanese only release (for now) also probably helped it fly under the radar. As for SC6, Snoy likely still doesn't have the balls to go against a AAA developer…yet.


36755f  No.15947522

File: 3d3c54762173529⋯.png (174.95 KB, 296x295, 296:295, smug angel of slaugher.png)

I've been meaning to play the Crossbell games for a while now, but I've wanted to replay the Sky trilogy first. Just finished Sky 3rd, Renne still best, 10/10 would protect her smug. I'm going to play the modded PC version that is up on nyaa. I'll let you niggers know how it is as I go along.


4d7fa0  No.15947617

File: db9fac5248813df⋯.jpg (770.04 KB, 1200x873, 400:291, RennePantsu.jpg)


b77381  No.15947715

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15946516

>Bigger devs (like Bandai) or exclusives (Cold Steel 3/4) probably have more sway?

Very doubtful because in the past Snoy forced a few third party games in the past to be self-censored. Also, the third R&C PS3 game was going to be called Clock Blockers but Snoy stepped in and force Insomniac Games to change the title to A Crack in Time. Invidious vid related.

>Either that or they're focusing on similar "types" of games, like VNs or beach volleyball.

And one of them MIGHT be Catherine Full Body because one of the devs weirdly said that "We went as far as we could go without the light shining" as a PR response.

https://gematsu.com/2018/11/atlus-responds-to-concerns-over-sony-regulations-affecting-catherine-full-body

https://archive.fo/6fTdy

>>15946964

Again like I said before, Snoy is slowly boiling the water for japanese devs by not going at bigger devs yet. But give this some more time and Snoy will force their censorship policy on to every japanese dev under the sun be it small, indie, and AAA.


702434  No.15951015

>>15947715

For some reason I'm not bothered by the lewding of Renne.

Proceed.


4d7fa0  No.15951051

File: 4dde4118fce09d3⋯.jpg (370.11 KB, 600x800, 3:4, Renne6.jpg)

File: e9988c8018ec3d5⋯.png (941.08 KB, 1200x1400, 6:7, Renne8.png)

File: 48d411e61967546⋯.png (1004.62 KB, 719x643, 719:643, RenneKeATowel.png)

File: 84fc64c3cc3de86⋯.jpg (118.53 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, RennePanties1.jpg)

File: 1b34d3320348858⋯.jpg (505.57 KB, 1313x954, 1313:954, RenneTita.jpg)


805618  No.15951084

>>15951051

That fourth picture is evidence you need to either get a real girlfriend or go your own way (MGTOW).


4d7fa0  No.15951120

>>15951084

>MGTOW

You have to go back.


36755f  No.15951168

>>15951084

No, the fourth picture shows how much love the devs put into their game by adding hidden details like pantsu that suit the characters wearing them.


805618  No.15951188

>>15951168

I completely agree with you in that character detail is nice, and too many publishers are lazy and force games out from developers before they have time to add polish, but that this anonymous poster would make such a bold emphasis of such a minuscule detail uncovers his unhealthy sexual desperation. Thus, the two recommendations above.


09df5a  No.15951190

>Ys Seven Rapid Snipe

>An absurdly powerful move where the most powerful part of the attack, the ground pound, misses smaller enemies because the launcher doesn't work on 99% of enemies at this point

Genius design here. This game is getting stale at this point(Sea Sanctum) and I want to skip to Celceta already, but I also want to see if the Scias bossfight will be any good.


73e5a0  No.15952265

No faggot mark banned me for telling him to kill himself with his capatcha shit. I asked if anyone knew where to find a .pkg file for cold steel 4 so i could archive it. I think i have 3 but no way to tell if it works cause i dont use a console


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5b590f  No.15953484

Big Xseed sale on GoG for the fag who was planning on buying them


c61685  No.15953563

File: 6e1a7c75f3bacd0⋯.jpeg (35.18 KB, 468x431, 468:431, 620C13C6-5A92-4B26-95B5-B….jpeg)

I just finished FC again after a few years since my first playthrough and I still teared up during Estelle’s confession but I think it was because I knew what was coming after


4d7fa0  No.15953567

File: 126e6e6ad570d8a⋯.jpg (441.95 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, JoshuaEstelleFC.jpg)


a67f55  No.15955632

>>15891157

I think it's worth pointing out that EntertainmentSupport are the ones who ported Ys 8 on both PC and Switch. Neither NISA nor NIS in either case.

https://ent-support.com/achievement.html


5b590f  No.15955635

>>15955632

Didn't NISA outsource the PC port to some mobile company or something akin to that after they fucked up immensely?


a67f55  No.15955659

>>15955635

From what I know, EntertainmentSupport is actually a company under NIS themselves. As for what happened we know they fucked up big times and asked another company to work on the PC port. I'd say this looks grim if they got Nox if they choose to make ES make the port again. At this point I'm just hoping they at least don't make the same mistakes and make a good port. Coven wasn't so bad of a port, I have no clue why Ys VIII ended up being so god damned broken.


c61685  No.15955667

>>15955659

>I have no clue why Ys VIII endedd up being broken

because they rushed it out and it wasn't a game under the NIS name in the first place. They don't give two shits about games not made by their parent company. They have to be put on a tight leash for anything else if the company they get hired by wants any sort of actual quality. Also because they kept resetting any progress made. Namely the work by Durante which they just threw away.


4d7fa0  No.15955675

>>15955659

>I have no clue why Ys VIII ended up being so god damned broken.

Because they didn't care. NISA is the Walmart of localization. They underbid competitors and shit out a substandard product because they don't actually care as long as people buy it, counting on the apathy and settlement factor of their customers, which sadly works because most idiot fans are conditioned to think "w-w-w-well if I don't buy it I'll never get another one!" like it's still 1995 or something. Localization companies encourage this mindset as much as possible. People almost got it with Ys 8 because it was so bad and the community was small enough that it was making waves, but a small token gesture was all that was needed to placate the easily influenced sheep.


a67f55  No.15955678

>>15955667

Yeh it's a big possibility. If you look at the steamdb entries, Coven's PC port has been in the work for years. It's been in the seamdb even before the Japanese PS4 version was announced. I wouldn't be surprised if it was being made for PC/PS4 originally. Ys VIII itself was given very little time to be ported though…


5b590f  No.15955690

>>15955678

>Ys VIII was given very little time to be ported

They kept delaying it and took their sweet time and still put out an incredibly shitty product.

Meanwhile XSEED ported and translated between 3-5 Falcom games in the meantime and handled some other releases and did so with their usual skill. NIS/A and whatever companies they have under them are fucking garbage


a67f55  No.15955702

>>15955690

TBH I think the company in charge of the port is particularly slow which makes senses as they seem to work on multiple ports to pc and switch at the same time. I'm guessing they're still working on 3-4 games at all time, so it really doesn't help.

IMO complaining here is not going to do much, a better case would be to email them in the case they're involved with the PC port and ask them gently to please be careful with the PC port. I mean at least now we know who really worked on the port originally so if they're involved again we know what to do.


5b590f  No.15955748

>>15955702

>complaining to NIS/A or to some tiny nip company under NIS/A

no point in doing that when I can complain directly to Falcom about NISA. I don't want NIS/A to ever touch a Falcom game ever again.

Complaining to some small porting company directly that's under NISA anyways won't accomplish anything. The PC port was ruined (and the Switch port was meh), and only recently was it made somewhat playable with problems but still having a shitty localization and having almost nothing in the way of benefits at all

I'm not actively "complaining" here. I'm stating facts about the shit state of that port and I already did my part when it was more necessary near the date of release. Now its more a matter of waiting and seeing if Falcom avoids these faggots entirely, which hopefully they do as even the nips were angry about this which is pretty much unprecedented for something like this.

Hell, I'd honestly rather send them an email berating those faggots for being incompetent. It wouldn't be helpful, but I despise those people and its tempting to make them feel bad for their gross failure.


a67f55  No.15955812

>>15955748

Dude did you even read my posts?

I'm saying if it happens and let's face it, chances are high it'll happen. Also if you read my posts you'd know the company is directly under NIS, so chances are contacting them might actually work. Or alternatively contacting NIS themselves. But I guess you'd rather complain than try to be constructive, whatever man.

In the end we have to cross fingers and hope XSEED get the game.

I'm not sure what's your opinion on Aksys, but while the PC port was much better (thanks to ghostlight being the ones porting it) the translation was also full of memes sadly.

With XSEED potentially busy With Cold Steel 3 and even 4 as well maybe, we just gotta hope for the best at this point.


ad1955  No.15955819

File: 542d42b8e5e525d⋯.jpg (50.86 KB, 600x599, 600:599, CJ6krRmVAAAGJ2z.jpg orig.jpg)

>>15955678

>>15955690

>Ys VIII was given very little time to be ported

The fuck is this made up shit excuse? They had more than enough time. They had

>Some time between obtaining the license and its announcement

>More than half a year between the announcement and the console releases

>8 months of delays between the console releases and the pc port releases

They had a LOT of time and the day it got released it was a fucking disaster.


4d7fa0  No.15955823

>>15955812

>With XSEED potentially busy With Cold Steel 3 and even 4 as well maybe, we just gotta hope for the best at this point.

This is sadly something to consider. If things go the way we hope for Trails, XSeed would likely be too busy to be a contender for Ys IX anyway. Who else could even step in? Ark Sys? I guess they'd be better than NISA but they still have lots of problems.


a67f55  No.15955843

>>15955819

If you look at how long it took them to port games. For instance Coven took like 3 years? Firefly Diary 2 years. They're not very competent it seems, so the time given for Ys VIII was not enough for them to do a good port at all. This is not an excuse, it's just fact that ES is not really a competent porting team.

>>15955823

You mean Aksys? The Aksys translation would be as bad as NISA translation yes, but at least Ghostlight is a better port team than the nips from ES that's for sure.


5b590f  No.15955876

>>15955812

Your logic is backwards. NIS/A oversees them, and they let them release a shitty product and didn't do anything involving them. In what fucking way do you think contacting them directly would somehow work? Its fucking backwards and stupid and not only that but you would have the incredibly difficult burden of not only informing people about this tiny unheard of Japanese-only company, but to try and convince people contacting them? Good luck with that faggot. Tell me how that works out for you.

>But I guess you'd rather complain than try to be constructive, whatever man

They had all the time in the world to "be constructive" and not fuck up the port. Now is the time to cut NIS/A out entirely as NIS/A kept on receiving continuous feedback for fucking months and this still fucking happened. Contacting Falcom should always be the main course of action going forward regarding this sort of shit. Fuck NIS, fuck NISA, and fuck whatever the hell this shitty small company is.

Aksys is mediocre and their localizations are only one notch above NISA's (Which puts them at "bad" as NISA is on a different level of awful). Ghostlight's ports are usually not good at all, but strangely enough they're at least getting better recently which is shocking to me. Still not good though but I'd rather take them over NISA.

>>15955823

Literally anyone would be better than NISA as nobody fucks up shit like functionality quite like they do.


a67f55  No.15955893

>>15955876

>Ghostlight's ports are usually not good at all

At this point I think you're just retarded. While Ghostlight have made lot of shit on Steam by porting censored games without fixing said censorship, their PC ports have been generally fairly good.


5b590f  No.15955904

>>15955893

Their ports were usually considered lazy from what I've seen.

Either way, your opinion of me is irrelevant. You're clearly lacking some brain cells, coming in with these harebrained half-baked schemes that won't accomplish anything.


c61685  No.15956869

>>15955819

They had the time but due to their inefficiency and their ignorance they bumbled around during that time and forced themselves into a corner where they couldn’t work effectively. Then they fucked up and threw everything they had away close to release. It’s not an excuse for them. It’s more evidence against them needing the license to games. If they only pay attention to their parent company’s games while pulling the shit they did on other’s games, it should quickly kill off interest in other companies using them. What’s strange is, it doesn’t.


09df5a  No.15958113

Done with Ys Seven. The last two hours of the game felt like agony to get through because not enough new shit was being introduced and bosses needed a bit of grinding before they stop dealing insane 1attackobecausenorecoveryframes damage on nightmare. Scias was a pretty meh fight, would have been better using solo Adol. And while I like the idea of the final boss fight it needed some insane grinding or else I would have probably suffered carpal tunnel.

Please tell me Memories of Celceta's boss are more difficult in the sense that their attacks are difficult like Scias/Moon Dragon and not because they have too much HP and require sizable grinding to not fall asleep playing them.


09df5a  No.15964132

Pretty much all the Falcom games by Xseed are on sale on GoG, if anyone cares.

How the fuck is Memories of Celceta?


1117c5  No.15964151

>>15958113

>Please tell me Memories of Celceta's boss are more difficult in the sense that their attacks are difficult like Scias/Moon Dragon

none of the attacks in the party games are really 'difficult' since you can block everything with flash guard anyways, the only difficult part is discerning the timing from the attack animations and trying to guess the attack hitboxes so you can get a Flash Guard in

>>15964132

>MoC

same shit, worse story, dumb focus on filling out a map by hugging as many walls as possible, the most mediocre Ys OST since god knows when as barely any of the new arrangement hold up to the Dawn of Ys arrangements or even the original FM tunes from the JDK Special/Falcom Special Box '95 album

dodging gives you witch time now which makes you temporarily invincible, on top of being stackable with flash guard so you get both bonus damage and invincibility

gear grinding is thankfully non-existent this time around, there's a new system which lets you enhance all your shit as much you want but it is moronically implemented, though it's not necessary and completely ignorable at the very least

party members are slightly more diverse in playstyle through some skills, but not by much

bosses are still damage sponges

dungeon design and enemy design are still total trash


1117c5  No.15964166

File: c5f650e9e18751e⋯.webm (1.8 MB, 200x200, 1:1, Ys - Foliage Ocean in Cel….webm)

File: 1b0e3429d91e05f⋯.webm (1.68 MB, 200x200, 1:1, Ys IV Dawn of Ys - Dawn o….webm)

File: 91dfea95b3323e3⋯.webm (1.01 MB, 200x200, 1:1, Ys IV J.D.K. Special Dawn….webm)

>>15964151

like overall the soundtrack is alright, but then they treat one of the best original tunes with this godawful lead synth


09df5a  No.15964191

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15964166

Well I had heard this remake of Ice Ridge so I thought the music would have been good. Seven had some sick tracks.

I guess I'll try celceta at some point but I know if I try it now I'll just burn out because Seven killed me by the end.


fdafa7  No.15964255

Bout to finish up on Coldsteel 1, and actually thoroughly enjoyed my time with it. A plot centered around warring factions, political maneuvers, actually being about the characters instead of some magic reality-warping whateverthefucks and stoner philosophical nonsense, THIS is exactly what I want more jrpgs to be like. I know it will eventually turn into a Sept-Terrion quest like the rest, or at least I assume it will, but I'm really enjoying my time with it.

Now I just have to choose between Fie or Laura. I started to like Laura again after the contrived rivalry thing with Fie, and Emma fell out of favor since I don't like witches, Fie I actually started to like a lot later on, she's a nice girl who's just kind of quiet.

>>15964132

I only played it on Vita, back when I didn't really know much about Ys. Its was insanely easy on normal is all I remember.


4d7fa0  No.15964355

File: aa669aa048c104f⋯.jpg (611.53 KB, 1205x731, 1205:731, FieSleep.jpg)

File: 7f5b74c3d08f0e2⋯.png (886.11 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, FieRomantic.png)

File: 301a9707876fb59⋯.png (82.68 KB, 200x250, 4:5, FieStare.png)

File: 175183afc023458⋯.jpg (86.02 KB, 600x675, 8:9, LauraValentine.jpg)

File: 307b9d115610c1d⋯.png (711.46 KB, 600x829, 600:829, Emma10.png)

>>15964255

I'm glad you're starting to like Fie, anon. She gets even better in the second game. If you want an actual romance plot in CS2, though, Laura is the better choice. Fie's is a little more ambiguous…at least until CS4. Emma gets better too. In CS1 they spend all their time trying to make her "mysterious" and don't give her enough time to actually be a character, which really starts in CS2, although doesn't really fully get there until the later games.


fdafa7  No.15964526

File: db320cc3063b229⋯.png (206.38 KB, 435x480, 29:32, CS1_battle_portrait_fie.png)

File: b28730e37ffc1aa⋯.png (256.18 KB, 460x479, 460:479, CS3_portrait.png)

File: d8de67f54f450e9⋯.png (170.54 KB, 299x479, 299:479, CS1_status_portrait_fie.png)

>>15964355

my only issue with Fie is that her outfit in CS3 is too outlandish, like her hair having suddenly grown to four times the length as before. I think they went too out there with her design and should have kept it more gradual. In particular I don't like the portrait art having been seemingly based on the CS1 battle portrait art instead of the vastly superior status menu portrait art.

I like Laura but i dunno, she's also rather plain. She looks good and is nice enough, but is mostly just sort of a background character and wouldn't stand out much at all if they hadn't made her look so iconic.

I liked Emma for a while but the secrecy as well as her being a witch put me off eventually. It was specifically the "I'm kind of the opposite (of a nun)" line since I'm a catholic and the game's been pretty wholesome on that aspect.

Them using celtic crosses and calling them "animist symbols" in legram made me reee pretty hard though


4d7fa0  No.15964562

File: 40c3d98e25d1ec0⋯.jpg (265.78 KB, 1509x2440, 1509:2440, Fie2.jpg)

>>15964526

Well that is Fie after a pretty substantial time jump. She's not the only one who changed her hair, though hers probably changed the most. As for the outfit itself, considering what she wears in CS2 it's not that strange. Given what we saw of Shirley it just seems to be pretty normal for jaeger girls. The witches aren't really evil or anything. Just practitioners of old magic. They even start working with the Gralsritter in the later half of the story.


2033a4  No.15966755

>>15964562

I wonder what Sara's outfit looked like.


4d7fa0  No.15966760

File: a3b44e8cb4783dd⋯.jpg (533.88 KB, 1080x2220, 18:37, SaraYoung.jpg)

>>15966755

We actually know.


818d0d  No.15966789

>>15964255

You don't like Fie for her dry sarcastic comments?


e9571d  No.15966860

When is Trails of Cold Steel 3 coming to PC?


09df5a  No.15966983

>>15966860

When Nisa picks it up.


4d7fa0  No.15967026

File: 37b65ca608a16e0⋯.jpg (221.2 KB, 720x1280, 9:16, TitaDeleteThis.jpg)


d08223  No.15967103

I'm finishing my new game+ of CS2, after starting on CS1, should I play the liberl arc or crossbell arc next? Also should I waifu Alfin on this run, she's pretty cute

>>15964255

Fie is adorable, and her CS2 romance is very wholesome.


4d7fa0  No.15967286

File: c11ef7fe0f4ce28⋯.mp4 (Spoiler Image, 15.72 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, FieFinalBond.mp4)

>>15967103

Sky should definitely be played before Crossbell. CS1 and 2 can function standalone even though you miss some things. However. one of the central plots of the first game in Crossbell is tied very closely to Liberl characters and you're going to want that background. As for Alfin, she's cute but her events end up bringing up Elise a lot and because she's not around much there isn't much content you get for doing it. I'd personally recommend doing her events, watching her bond, then reloading. That will unlock it in the theater as well as the one scene she's in for the epilogue which changes exactly one line. You could also just YouTube it.

>Fie is adorable, and her CS2 romance is very wholesome.

Wait until CS4.


fdafa7  No.15967935

File: bf59144773f6adc⋯.png (78.95 KB, 482x427, 482:427, feel.png)

>>15966789

>>15967103

>>15967286

I do like Fie a lot, I'm actually still stuck on deciding between her and Laura. If her line is more ambiguous though, like the other anon said, I am a sucker for romance so I want to lean towards Laura, also because Laura makes more sense as a wife figure, what with her coming from a stable family, being very close to Rean in character, and learning how to cook.

I think Fie might be my favorite character in CS though because of her dry wit, I genuinely enjoy her personality more, though hanging out with her feels a little forced since she's so apathetic.

Help me anons, I'm stuck not being able to decide on a fictional romance in a chinese cartoon game

Last time I mulled over who to waifu in a game it was Persona 4 and that took me multiple real life weeks to decide.


d08223  No.15968230

File: c12093bb55ef395⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 2.65 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, ScreenShot.png)

>>15967935

Fie a cute


c61685  No.15968285

File: a9285684170f584⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 318.37 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, F8CD2D68-833E-4E79-A24B-9….jpeg)

File: 92d7da2bb39ba5f⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 108.35 KB, 221x237, 221:237, 772B2C6E-D6CE-4118-875B-C8….png)

File: 581cc129455cfd5⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 56.08 KB, 324x473, 324:473, 847EE23C-C79A-4833-AE5B-A….jpeg)


4d7fa0  No.15968665

File: f138f151aa9cab2⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 139.71 KB, 400x533, 400:533, Laura1.jpg)

File: 38c488c6014ee0d⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 187.27 KB, 587x997, 587:997, Laura2.jpg)

File: 66a76b3740bb6ae⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 74.66 KB, 400x846, 200:423, Laura3.jpg)

File: dc225dd5b053efa⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 386.58 KB, 800x566, 400:283, Laura5.png)

File: 2726122df1e8cf0⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 92.67 KB, 928x966, 464:483, Laura8.jpg)

>>15967935

Do what I did: do all of their events, do one of their final bonds and then reload and do the other to see which you like better. I ultimately ended up going with Laura in CS2 because I thought it was more satisfying. Fie isn't really ready for actual unambiguous romance until CS4. You can read between the lines and see she likes Rean, but Laura's is much more overt. But you'll have plenty of time to decide once CS2 rolls around. The end of CS1 event doesn't really change much except for like two lines of dialogue and every person's event you qualified for will get unique dialogue regardless.


f24fbd  No.15968993

>>15967286

This is what men really want.


6a81e6  No.15969866

>>15968665

I thought that was pretty much how the game was played anyways. I'm too much of an Emma-fag, but I can definitely admit that Laura won when it came to CS2's romance options.


fdafa7  No.15970451

File: 5e03b1fabdbb2f1⋯.jpg (107.75 KB, 1060x1200, 53:60, metalgetsstronger.jpg)

I went with Fie, because I felt if I didn't I'd regret it later. I had mulled it over for so long every time I would decide on Laura I'd feel not sure about it so I said fuck it and went with Fie.

Also just finished the game like a minute ago. Man, that game goes places. I love this series when it sticks to character centric plot, its so much better than the magic macguffin and motivationless villain mess that was Ao. Might be my favorite one in the Kiseki series so far despite it being just a set up game, which feels a bit weird. I just hope the rest can live up to my hype.

Highly tempted to jump into CS2 right away and give up the next two weeks of my life to Falcom again.


702434  No.15970469


818d0d  No.15970594

>>15970451

One of us! one of us!


fb3ffa  No.15970973

>>15970451

Good job beating the game. Fie's not my cup of tea, but still a good choice. Still trying to decide between Emma, Laura, or Sara in my playthrough of the game.


d08223  No.15970979

>>15967286

You were right, the Alfin route is disappointing, I'll probably go for Laura on the next run.


09df5a  No.15975886

Should I bother with nightmare difficulty on Ys:Celceta?


41ec49  No.15976309

NISA announcing something in a week, probably just some shit no one cares about, though.


09df5a  No.15976707

>>15976309

Define in a week.

inb4 cs4.


fdafa7  No.15977229

File: da19e5ce9691d92⋯.png (453.36 KB, 736x718, 368:359, pukepe.png)

>bring in CS1 save

>accurately depicts Fie being the one that tells me to go

>go find Alisa

>game suddenly shows her as the one that did it

stop pushing your shitfu on my falcom, it's never going to happen


41ec49  No.15977287

>>15976707

>Happy 2019! It feels awesome greeting you in the new year, dood! What’s even greater is that we have a new title announcement coming up January 17th, with a follow-up panel at PAX South on the 18th at 11 AM CST in Falcon Theatre!


52f1f8  No.15977363

>>15977229

It's even dumber if you go with best girl Towa because then you only get these retconned-in romance scenes like with the Alisa one you mentioned. Towa gets a special scene when you leave the school instead, so there is none of that standing and talking into the robot for half an hour while the enemy just stands there. That they retconned that in combined with the fact that it takes probably half the game for Towa to show up at all made me actually wonder if the game had fucked up and given me the wrong romantic interest, or if I had somehow imported the wrong save. Surely it couldn't have been that hard to use a slightly different scene if you didn't go with the highly unpleasant tsundere, Falcom?

>>15977287

>in Falcon Theatre!

>Falcon

>Falcom

It's over, NISA CS3 confirmed.


c61685  No.15978315

>>15977287

>follow-up panel the next day

>more than likely to perform damage control if it is CS3

The darkest timeline is real.


4d7fa0  No.15978382

>>15977287

>>15978315

I still doubt it. NISA would never anticipate damage control because they're too stupid to think ahead.


09df5a  No.15980718

Am I missing something? I'm only level 10 with Adol and as far as I can tell the XP gain would require some insane grinding if I want to get to those levels. Am I playing Memories of Celceta wrong is it supposed to be like this? I'm dealing good damage to enemies but then those really big enemies one-two shot me and take quite the beating, like the one in the very beginning of the Forest of Dawn.


c61685  No.15984923

Just announced: Derk Bramer, former lead editor at SEGA and Atlus, is a new localization editor for XSEED. Scrolling through his twitter it looks like he’s very big on lefty inclusion politics retweeting things about “body positivity” and “how the word trap shouldn’t be used” if you’d like to peruse his twitter for anything, here it is.

https://twitter.com/derkbramer/status/1083898871711821824?s=21


92c463  No.15984941

>>15984923

It doesn't even make sense. Xseed is such a small company that they can't afford to hire useless people but I guess they can't be much longer for this world at this rate.


4d7fa0  No.15985700

>>15984923

Did he localize for Atlus while they did P5?


73e5a0  No.15985728

>>15984923

Learn moonrune and pray these people suicide


4d7fa0  No.15985739

>>15985728

>>15984941

Did you guys forget that Tom was also a major lefty faggot who likely had the exact same opinions? Hatsuu could get pretty leftest herself. The key was that they didn't let it seep into their work. Which is why I asked this: >>15985700

Because P5 had absolutely none of that. It was localized neatly and accurately. It doesn't matter if they're a leftist. What matters is if they're going to put it in their work.


4d7fa0  No.15987308

Upon further examination he was the lead editor for the Yakuza games as well as Valkyria 4. Those are some decent uncucked credits. Obviously don't let your guard down, but you don't have to pull out your torches and pitchforks just yet.


73e5a0  No.15987931

>>15985739

Id still be wary but it seems alright. Honestly, as long as nisa does not touch it ill be happy though im sure by the time it releases ill be able to read the jp versions


e16135  No.15990614

Is michel from zero no kiseki a gay dude or is the fan translation making him that way. All the *teehee* and *giggle* is kinda annoying but it'd fit if hes a fag


2033a4  No.15990682

>>15990614

In Ao he gets a VA, and he sounds like one of those typical manly fags you see in nip media sometimes.


36755f  No.15990685

>>15990614

He's definitely a faggot, if you're using the voice patch from the EVO version there's no doubt he's gay. Later on a little girl says it's odd that he "talks like a woman."


fdafa7  No.15990825

File: 7d27cfb99ab52c1⋯.png (492.38 KB, 639x519, 213:173, KeA.PNG)

>>15990614

he's an okama, more along the older "talks and looks super gay but is clearly a man and doesn't try to hide it" route then the modern tranny route


af7919  No.15992291

someone kindly explain to me why monument warping in memories of celceta is based on color and serves absolutely zero purpose but to waste my fucking time.


e9571d  No.15992318

When is ToCS 3 coming out in the west? Will I have to learn moon runes to play the rest of this series?


fdafa7  No.15992369

>>15992318

honestly, I'm sure in a few years it'll be announced, the issue is who will get it

if for whatever reason it never gets announced I'm sure some people will start up a translation effort since the series has become too well known at this point for it not to, but that would probably take like a decade

a real "never ever" would be "when are the gaghrev games being retranslated"


4de956  No.15992403

>>15984923

That's worrying, but what's his stance on censorship?

>>15985739

Tom and Hatsuu mainly talked about video games, localizations and shit on their twitters, and compared to most leftists in the vidya industry only occasionally got into anything political or retarded

I don't have time to research this faggot though to see if that's the case with this guy


4d7fa0  No.15992456

>>15992318

If we don't get an announcement this year it's finally time to be concerned. It took two years for CS1 to come here. This September will be the two year anniversary of CS3. The only hopeful sign is XSeed doing the PS4 versions of CS1 and 2, the most hopeful part being they bothered to buy the Japanese audio, which they had never done before and would be a weird gesture if it was just for the sake of porting. Those are due out in February and March. If they then announce CS3 in March that'll be six months until September and XSeed usually likes announcing things the same year they will come out most of the time.

As for alternatives, you can learn moon, obviously, which will have many applications, of course, but it's also a very, very difficult undertaking. There is a spreadsheet that covers the game's core plot events, quests and bonding events, but sadly you will miss out on NPC dialogue which is always a very nice part of Trails. If there was a PC version people likely would have already had translation efforts in place, but due to them being PS4 only right now there's not much you can do. There is a spreadsheet for CS4 as well. But again, that's pretty much the most archaic way you could experience the games.

>>15992403

>I don't have time to research this faggot though to see if that's the case with this guy

Well I did. I found the games he worked on >>15987308 and they are uncucked. So while it's a good idea to be vigilant, it's not time to give up all hope yet.


b3ee27  No.15994608

File: 47bf9b0b61bfe30⋯.png (21.65 KB, 593x253, 593:253, a.png)

All is lost. Derk Bramer is now Lead Editor of localization at XSEED. Mr lets ban the term trap and virtue signal every chance I get.

Just check his timeline: https://twitter.com/derkbramer

Besides trying to cozy up with with Jessica Valenti, he retweeted the following:

>Education: Please don't use the word "trap" in order to describe a transperson. If I see you use the term on Twitch you will get reported. We have to treat everyone with respect and that includes EVERYONE

Among other LGBTQMOP pride stuff.

The next few Legends of Hero and Ys games will fall hard. No more jokes or having Joshua Bright cross-dressing, it is offensive.


4d7fa0  No.15994617

>>15994608

You're late. Also if he was lead localizer on Valkyria 4, aka one oft he biggest targets of ire for SJWeebs last year. Tom was also a lefty faggot. He kept it out of his work. So far nothing has shown me he puts his politics in his work. Valkyria 4 was uncucked. So it's best to wait and see what happens. Next time read the thread.


52f1f8  No.15994653

>>15994617

How was the localization for that game handled? If he was forced to make it professional and keep his politics out of it it's not the same thing as being given largely free reign as he likely would be at Xseed. Now that the two (one?) people that at all cared about being professional and faithful to the material are gone, there is very little holding Xseed back from poisoning their localizations with their vile politics. Even filth like 8-4 have managed to turn out acceptable localizations when they were forced to, but when left to their own devices we all know what happens. Perhaps this guy is the same.


4d7fa0  No.15994685

>>15994653

We can't really know how things were handled. I don't know how strict Sega was. Only that the result was localizations free of politics. He was the lead on those, so it's not like he had no control. All we can do now is wait and see if that work ethic continues. But I there's no reason to be as blackpilled as that anon was yet. Not until we have more proof and reason to be concerned.


7ce5e8  No.15994700

>>15994685

You also said he was the lead on Yakuza? If he worked in 0, it was a pretty solid translation. One thing I'm not sure was if the encounters were changed from the japanese copy. What I mean is if Kiryu gets in a fight, the thugs are like

>"We're gonna beat your head in."

I don't think it's a 1:1 from the Japanese so you could say it was 'Americanized' somewhat. But you could also say it gives the characters personality with Kiryu speaking properly and Majima saying 'Yo' and 'Ya wanna back that up?'

I do wonder who this new editor would deal with a trap situation like Joshua was in Trails 1.


4d7fa0  No.15994730

>>15994700

Yeah, I'd imagine he was lead on 0 since it fits the timeframe. As for Majima, that's a pretty standard tactic to deal with something like dialect. XSeed did that plenty in Trails. Becky's Scottish accent was Kansaiban in Japanese. I think they specifically said they went with Scottish because they were tired of the same old "southern accent for Kansai" archetype. As for the trap situation, you can't really write around that. The scene is in the game and it's pretty central so you can't really change it even if you wanted to. Also it's not like it was overly offensive or anything. Joshua cross-dressed and people said he looked good like that. I don't really think that's something people would change. What you'll want to look for are lewd outfits and anything to do with commenting on female bodies. Lucky for us, at least for Trails, the spreadsheets exist. If he does fuck with the game, we'll know it. But I think there's a pretty good chance he won't. I mean he didn't take the ass-groping or hotsprings out of Valkyria 4.


af7919  No.15999367

>Color/Shape warping

>Enemies dealing insane amounts of damage per hit forcing you to stop every time for like a minute so that you restore your health

>Tower of Providence animations on energizing various shit, none of which can be sped up or skipped

>Skill finishes stopping the game just so it can zoom in on the words skill finish

Why is Memories of Celceta so hellbent on wasting my time?


1117c5  No.15999404

>>15999367

The Ys team at Falcom really needs to have their shit slapped


af7919  No.15999410

>>15999404

I'm burning out really fast now after Selray, currently at the tower of providence. Enemies are way too tanky, deal too much damage or have incredibly annoying status effects(heavy/paralysis), the music is sucking hard, Adol's amnesia isn't getting anywhere and I can tell Edeel's a bad goy, Gruda is the baddest of bad goys and has some connection to Duren. All the artifacts have been bullshit items that make me groan whenever I have to use them(Dwarf mode, underwater) and if that artifact screen is to be believed I'm still nowhere near 50% of the game.

Is Lacrimosa truly better?


1117c5  No.15999432

>>15999410

>Is Lacrimosa truly better?

Mildly


24eef7  No.16000687

Bunch of insiders posting some very, very worrying shit hinting that NISA has Sen III on twitter.


5bcbbc  No.16000698

File: 86f1042201c07cb⋯.jpg (23.76 KB, 308x467, 308:467, 86f1042201c07cbefd915b11eb….jpg)

>>16000687

Welp. Time to pretend falcom went bankrupt. I'm fucking done with them if that's true, it's not even worth learning japanese for their games when the PC ports will be complete broken trash.


4d7fa0  No.16000742

>>16000687

Would you mind showing the evidence?


99e238  No.16001025

>>16000687

Faggot, no archives or proof means nothing

>>16000698

These so-called "Insiders" in the vidya localization industry post meaningless garbage all the fucking time. Wait for some actual proof before you give up all hope like some melodramatic faggot


66ac1d  No.16001102

>>16000687

Honestly it wouldn't make much sense for NISA to jump into the middle of CS, I call bullshit.


24eef7  No.16001406

I know it's gay that I don't have a source but y'all have to trust me on this.


4d7fa0  No.16001419

>>16001406

Well I guess we'll see Thursday, anon.


73e5a0  No.16001445

>>16001419

The fuck happens thursday


4d7fa0  No.16001485

>>16001445

NISA is announcing something Thursday, which is how this whole hullabaloo started. Every time NISA says they're going to announce something everyone always panics and says it'll be CS3 and every time so far it's been wrong. Some "insiders" on twitter are claiming they totally have real info this time that they can't share with anyone, so it's basically useless. In the end all we can do is wait and see. It's either true or it isn't. Nothing else for it at this point.


f87048  No.16001490

>>16001485

Another qestion is why would Falcom give Sen to Nisa after fucked over Ys 8? I thought they were aware of how bad it was.


3a6fd4  No.16001491

Breaking news, Ys9 's MC will now be Mustafa from Ys Seven. Adol was never good, Ys is better now.

Sources: Dude trust me.


73e5a0  No.16001499

>>16001485

I tried looking where an announcement was coming from but found nothing. Maybe its earlier in the thread but ill take your word anon. I doubt its cold steel related, it wouldnt make sense to change translations team mid series especially with how complex these games are how dependent they are on one another. And even if they did it would just mean falcom is a garbage publisher and the entire industry is beyond fucked. So either you get to see a publisher and great series fall into nothingness for the western weebs or you get to witness the one good publisher left with a good series continue to produce good shit. Either way, im nearing the point i can read these in moonrune so im not too bothered if nisa gets it. Ill pray for you anons


4d7fa0  No.16001510

>>16001490

Because it still sold fine, sadly, due to NISA having the money to spread it over four platforms. Japs don't care if Westerners are happy as long as they keep buying. Japs are greedy fucks at heart and no company is your friend. They just happen to make things I like better than the pozzed shit they make over here. But it would be a mistake to think they have some kind of integrity. I figured it was possible that the controversy surrounding it and the fact they were not able to deliver what they promised when the promised might be a factor, but in the end we simply won't know until we see what happens next. There are no guarantees for anything.

>>16001499

It was here: >>15977287

He didn't post a link but putting the text in quotes shows this statement is in several news articles.


73e5a0  No.16001515

>>16001510

Thanks for that. Part of me believes them saying a new title is a new title completely but who knows. If falcom does go and hand the series over to nisa id just go to pirating their games instead. I also suspect people would fix the shitty translation as this series has had a lot of fan love


4d7fa0  No.16001530

>>16001515

>I also suspect people would fix the shitty translation as this series has had a lot of fan love

I would hope so. CS3 and CS4 already have more translation work done for them than in the cases of most games, so honestly fixing a shit translation wouldn't be overly hard as long as you had a dedicated team. The real loss, for me, would probably be the loss of the original dub actors, who I really enjoyed. Chiplock wrote a letter with his intent to never work for NISA again after Ys 8 and asking Falcom to give the game to XSeed. If he didn't come back that's the main character gone right there. It just wouldn't be the same. Also, NISA, being the lazy fucks they are, would never put in the extra work XSeed did, like the thousands of extra lines of VA XSeed recorded, removing things like silent Rean entirely. The loss of obvious passion would be the worst of it. XSeed clearly loved what they were doing. To NISA it will just be job #5423 or whatever. They're just soulless.


73e5a0  No.16001534

>>16001530

I personally only played with jp so i never heard the english dub. Always hated dubs in jp media excluding cromartie high. I dont disagree we would see passion gone from the games but what can you do anon. The company's who can translate this game are few and even then, you never know what kind of quality youll get.

While legend of heroes was the kick i needed to learn moonrune, i ended up just enjoying the challenge of it. So even if the future games are shit, i can at least enjoy a huge chunk of them in their original language. I just want to play the last two so i can get them off my mind and be glad the story is over in that arc. Waiting has been a pain


4d7fa0  No.16001542

>>16001534

>glad the story is over in that arc

It's not, though. Many things are still in the air and even bigger plot revelations with large implications for the world going forward come to light. Erebonia is settled but the world's still in turmoil.


73e5a0  No.16001554

>>16001542

Just that arc, as in cold steel, i mean. Regardless if nisa gets the game or xseed, i just want it done with. Tired of waiting to resolve this shit.


4de956  No.16002529

>>16001554

>I just want it done with

I'd rather it be delayed for another year or two if it means XSEED getting it, I don't mind waiting in tension if the non-cancerous/least-cancerous people get it


b843a7  No.16003033

File: dc0f12b41be0666⋯.png (95.25 KB, 512x512, 1:1, Joachim_Guenter_-_Bust_Cul….png)

File: 0164e2bf8a2edcd⋯.jpg (435.18 KB, 600x800, 3:4, Kea.full.765145-1.jpg)

Lloyd Bannings ruined one of D.G. Cult's most valuable proteges. For three years we had her under contract, singing lessons, dancing lessons, acting lessons. I spent hundreds of thousands of mira. I was gonna make her a big goddess. And let me be even more frank, just to show you that I'm not a hard-hearted man, that it's not all mira and blue gnosis. She was beautiful! She was young, she was innocent. She was the greatest piece of ass I've ever had, and I've had 'em all over Zemuria.

And then Lloyd Bannings comes along with his motivational speeches about barriers and guinea charm and she runs off. She threw it all away just to make me look ridiculous. And a man in my position can't afford to be made to look ridiculous.


fdafa7  No.16003154

>>16003033

I genuinely think Zero's smaller, more centralized plot was better than Ao's spread all over the place mess of a story


86b812  No.16004593

>>16001490

see >>15891619

It didn't matter in the end. All that controversy, all those fuck ups, having to re-translate it was so bad, didn't make a noticeable dent for Japs to care.

I keep telling people when it comes to localization: not only do the Japanese not care but they will often encourage dumb localization shit (like censorship) if it means more sales and more western shekels.


0a983c  No.16004797

>>16004593

The Switch release is what saved them is what I read that as


518edf  No.16005706

It happened. CSIII coming this year by NISA.

https://twitter.com/NISAmerica/status/1085899542262894593


41ec49  No.16005715

I am so done.


387092  No.16005722

Fucking damn fuck


846842  No.16005724

File: d757a2bcf77116f⋯.png (656.06 KB, 1063x591, 1063:591, u fuken wat kiddo.png)

>>16005706

That's it. It's all gone. Best we can hope for now is a translation patch for Sen 3 when it's on PC.


24eef7  No.16005729

Warned y'all.


518edf  No.16005730

>>16005715

>>16005722

>>16005724

I propose teaming up and do *something* about it. If some small email campaign forced nisa to retranslate Ys 8 and say how sorry they were, I'm sure something bigger would have bigger consequences.


a0577c  No.16005736

File: 930dde26333a5c5⋯.webm (2.15 MB, 854x480, 427:240, AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH.webm)


846842  No.16005748

>>16005706

They also tweeted it out as Trials of Cold Steel. Off to a good start.


b2107b  No.16005773

File: 5484145be230b26⋯.jpg (19 KB, 210x240, 7:8, renne-ys-vs-trails-in-the-….jpg)

Xseed definitively blown the fuck out.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NISAmerica/status/1085899542262894593

We at nisamerica.com are laughing.


702434  No.16005775

I see people saying that some of the original translation team is working on it

but I see no proof.


b2107b  No.16005787

File: 243126277aec42a⋯.png (135.23 KB, 242x712, 121:356, Shizuku_maclaine_ao-evo(3).png)

>>16003154

Yeah I too actually liked Zero no Kiseki more than Ao.


b2107b  No.16005802

File: 989c754bc38a3d4⋯.jpg (133.28 KB, 960x544, 30:17, 1502577276028.jpg)

Dual audio confirmed? How can Xseed even recover from this…


24eef7  No.16005818

>>16005775

What I'm gathering from twitter, is the person that made the thread on fucking ResetERA talked with NISA on Tuesday, and that's where it comes from.

Apparently the panel will have names?


846842  No.16005820

Apparently there's already a spreadsheet of a translation of the JP copy? So if worse comes to worse, the fans could probably salvage the poor PC port when it eventually does get to PC.


82b955  No.16005823

>>16005820

Sure, like they did with Ys 8.


fdafa7  No.16005825

File: 7b983aa8929cdcc⋯.jpg (17.48 KB, 326x326, 1:1, cryingcat.jpg)

Its over lads

I'm just going to have to pretend the series ends at CS 2 and that Falcom suffered a terrible meteor impact, wiping them off the face of the earth before CS 3 could be released


2033a4  No.16005826

>>16005706

I wonder what wacky adventure Ryan will encounter in this thrilling third part of the Trials of Cut Steel series.


54fe7d  No.16005842

File: 5968ab09d82784d⋯.png (406.24 KB, 680x377, 680:377, 3eee1332069c68d32d7548e821….png)

I can't believe Falcom went bankrupt before finishing the cold steel series guys.


702434  No.16005849

>>16005818

I see Chiplock returned as Rean's VA so did he bend over because he can't stick to his principles or did he join up because some of the original people are working on it?


2033a4  No.16005853

File: 3d8e1dffa564dfe⋯.jpg (49.41 KB, 853x525, 853:525, Capture.JPG)

It got deleted https://twitter.com/NISAmerica/status/1085899542262894593

NISA incompetence strikes again?


702434  No.16005854

>>16005853

It's probably to correct the typo.


8ca1a2  No.16005855

File: 230423830adf31a⋯.png (312.97 KB, 486x419, 486:419, 230.png)

>NISA


387092  No.16005857

So what JRPG series is even left? Between NISA Aksys and Sonys light beams


4de956  No.16005972

Once everyone recovers, you all should go nuclear, and I don't mean screeching at NISA employees (though you can do that if you want to)

I plan on doing so at least.

Post your collections on twitter or somewhere where Falcom can listen, and let them know how you feel, be as brutally honest as you can.

I'm fucking done with them until they drop NISA and I'm letting them know as much.


846842  No.16005979

>>16005972

Get organized. Draw up a list of people to contact on twitter, post e-mail addresses for me to send stuff to.

Give me a target and I'll participate.


fdafa7  No.16006003

>>16005972

I'm not going to buy another Falcom game again so long as this shit-sucking CEO who only cares about money is still around

To think I had been planning on actually buying Gurumin, Zwei, and in the middle of playing Xanadu Next

Fuck this company, NISA is shit and that's their own fault but its Falcom completely ignoring how shit they are just because they're friends and only care about quick cash grabs that's the real issue here

Hate NISA all you want, they only fulfill a niche that would not exist if companies didn't give them business


4de956  No.16006015

>>16005979

To start with, Falcom's twitter:

https://twitter.com/NihonFalcom

Places to mobilize:

(Falcom subleddit)

old.reddit.com/r/falcom

Cuckchan's Falcom general (not linking that one but I assume its on their /vg/)

Gamefaqs

http://gamefaqs.please use archive.is/

https://gbatemp.net/threads/nis-america-to-bring-trails-of-cold-steel-iii-west-this-year.529101/

The JRPG subleddit (be more careful with these subleddits, use gentler tones and show lots of evidence of fuckups since they're generally against action and hostility)

old.reddit.com/r/jrpg

Perhaps the PS4 subleddit

http://old.reddit.com/r/ps4

The (((Steam))) communities

old.reddit.com/r/steam

https://steamcommunity.com/app/251150/reviews/?browsefilter=toprated (Trails in the Sky steam page, you can also let the Ys and ToCS portions of them know)

Siliconera and Gematsu

http://please use archive.is/

http://gematsu.com/

Nichegamer, Operationrainfall, OneangryGamer

http://nichegamer.com/

http://oneangrygamer.net/

http://operationrainfall.com/

A big one is KiA.

old.reddit.com/r/kotakuinaction

I'll find specific-person contacts later, but those are some large general sites that have dedicated Falcom fanbases.

>>16006003

Yep. I was willing to forgive Falcom for Ys VIII if they actually learned from that lesson that NISA is cancer, but they don't fucking care about their western fanbase at all it seems so this looks like the only option.


4de956  No.16006085


4d7622  No.16006271

I'm fucking pissed. Fuck Falcom and NISA.

>>16006015

>old.reddit.com/r/falcom

Even leddit hates NISA. I'm suprised.


4de956  No.16006292

>>16006271

Eh. the Falcom subleddit is half and half. There's enough cucks over there complaining about the people who hate NISA, but there's also a loud contingent of people who understand NISA is cancer.

Unfortunately its basically a crapshoot how they'll react at any point in time


d08223  No.16006302

Does anyone know where to get the translation sheet that >>16005820 mentioned?


c61685  No.16006314

>>16006292

We just need to be louder and continuously debunk the NISA shills arguments. Biggest ones being “you should be happy you’re getting the game at all”, “you should be happy the original localizers are working on it”, and keep bringing up their failures as a company. Don’t hold back. This shit needs to change.


fdafa7  No.16006323

>>16006314

I don't understand the "at least you're getting the game" ideology, personally I'd rather have nothing

If a game is jap only then you learn jap and play it, otherwise you get nothing, its straightforward and easy

if a game is mangled dogshit then now you have something worse than nothing


4de956  No.16006347

File: c842758a0a607dd⋯.png (429.47 KB, 551x860, 551:860, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 08f185b189896b6⋯.png (87.27 KB, 567x727, 567:727, ClipboardImage.png)

File: a46a82053a117ce⋯.jpg (178.38 KB, 1600x900, 16:9, Archeozoic[1].jpg)

File: 44a890ccb9d9dae⋯.jpg (179.09 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, ys-viii-lacrimosa-of-dana-….jpg)

>>16006314

Using memes to spread shit against NISA might not be such a bad idea too. Excellent for the long-term once most of the mobilization has slowed down.

Hell just screencaps of their embarrassment works out pretty well.

Adol Christian, Archezoic Big Hole, and Trials of Cold Steel :^)

NISA is about to take a long and satisfying dump all over this localization.


4d7fa0  No.16006354

File: 0d86981f8efb7ba⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 49.75 KB, 607x339, 607:339, SeanHatsuu.png)

>>16005775

>>16005849

Wait, did Hatsuu get poached by NISA instead of fired by XSeed?

https://archive.is/rJC9U


4d7622  No.16006360

File: 5b74e046912f29e⋯.gif (1.82 MB, 400x225, 16:9, 5b74e046912f29e4d79c1295cd….gif)

>>16006323

Especially in this case. I'm PC only and getting a NISA port means I'll probably have to buy a PS4 and learn japanese anyways. I hope it'll be worth a pirate at least


4de956  No.16006364

>>16006354

Even if she did, it doesn't fucking matter.

Durante wasn't enough to save Ys VIII and he was only brought on for a week. She's probably only there for a short period of time and unaware that NISA is probably just using her to cushion the blow to people that are rightfully angry if that's even true at all to begin with.

They brought Durante on for a fucking week, undid all his fixes and people thought things would be fine. With an even bigger project like CS3, her alone won't be able to save it if she's even there to begin with

NISA is rotten to its core.


4d7fa0  No.16006369

>>16006364

Oh I'm not hopeful. Still, it's weird. NISA typically doesn't even lift a finger in terms of effort.I'll be curious to see exactly who they've got on this tomorrow. We'll have a better idea of a plan of attack then.


c61685  No.16006376

>>16006323

They’ll have an argument for that as well, believe me. Something along the lines of “If you knew/know/learn Japanese you wouldn’t even care about the localization”. Now, I can’t speak for everyone but I still would. Mainly because a shit company is still spreading around their awful work ethic to games left and right and people wouldn’t even know. People deserve the right to know of a game they want has been altered negatively in any way.

>>16006347

Using their tactic against them is good

>>16006364

Those are my thoughts exactly. They’re holding that panel and announced old translators would be coming back as a means of damage control and nothing else. The shills refuse to think critically of their darling and are happy spreading that news around to help with damage control. It’s scummy as fuck.


4de956  No.16006412

File: db08693b465305d⋯.png (48.38 KB, 742x500, 371:250, ClipboardImage.png)

File: cad8982043be3cc⋯.png (28.53 KB, 753x202, 753:202, ClipboardImage.png)

File: f52d1778a9acf9b⋯.png (145.17 KB, 1122x386, 561:193, ClipboardImage.png)

lmao NISA fans


2033a4  No.16006439

>>16006364

>Localization is fine

>NISA programming causes the game to crash at the final dungeon, wiping the save and frying you HDD

It wouldn't surprise me.


4d7fa0  No.16006446

>>16006439

Do we even know if there's a PC version yet? Also, if there is, how easy would it be to mod something like it to not be shit?


a69c94  No.16006484

>>16006323

>personally I'd rather have nothing

Not everyone is you and some of us want to play Falcom games not Xseed.

Jesus Christ its literally Working Design all over again.


a69c94  No.16006493

>>16006446

I bet there will be. Exclusive PS4 means exclusive for 6 months these days.


fdafa7  No.16006502

>>16006484

Everyone should be me then

You're the type of kike that ruins games for others by allowing terrible localization teams to shit on your plate while you happily eat it and then go around telling people lies about how it isn't so bad


4de956  No.16006521

>>16006484

Fuck off NISA shill


518edf  No.16006526

Why don't we just burn NISA HQ and move on?


8a65e9  No.16006851

File: 11e29aa57c0357d⋯.jpg (16.07 KB, 297x353, 297:353, 1419489890672.jpg)

>all these faggots saying you can't tell it'll be shit just because it's NISA

>wait until it's released

I fucking swear, pattern recognition may as well be a super power.


92c463  No.16006995

File: 9a030dd055ab154⋯.jpg (48.97 KB, 746x590, 373:295, 9a030dd055ab154f2da4fd5b1e….jpg)

I woke up and got the news. I came here for a hug. After the ys fiaco Falcom can only blame themselves when this goes tits up.

>>16006851

weebs are the mostly spineless consumers, they should take lessons from the Japanese that they idolise so much. Although I guess most of them are turning into sjweebs these days. The chance of nisa not fucking this up is an even more minuscule chance than normal since sen 3 has such a giant fucking script. My bet is that they rush it like normal because there's no way they can afford to actually give it the proper time.


739606  No.16007479

File: 410bccd48fe69b7⋯.png (1.4 MB, 3584x2040, 448:255, 410bccd48fe69b7eaa37ad4712….png)

File: d5b50eb6282405b⋯.jpg (1.25 MB, 2400x1910, 240:191, d5b50eb6282405b3ee44e4bc01….jpg)

File: 0785a93d6fd354f⋯.png (31.42 KB, 594x500, 297:250, 0785a93d6fd354fb1c2ed6299e….png)

File: dcb1095f5e2f076⋯.jpg (131.33 KB, 960x544, 30:17, 38wKPSZ.jpg)

File: 97c35d84548e64e⋯.jpg (127.06 KB, 960x544, 30:17, T8Tq0WV.jpg)

>>16006851

WE MUST REMIND THEM OF THEIR PAST MISTAKES!

Trying to find more like pic related I saved over the years. If anyone has more, post them to remind other anons.


e49a5d  No.16007522

>>16007479

>>16006347

Anyone who can translate their shitty mistakes into Japanese to show them how they butchered these series.


99e238  No.16007564

OP better be ready to make a new thread as soon as this one hits 13, something needs to happen and fast


4d7fa0  No.16007573

>>16007564

I can do that, though I wish it could wait until tomorrow so we can have the full picture.


7b6b8b  No.16007607

>>16007573

Whatever you think is best, it probably won't hit 13 until tomorrow anyways


16b1c9  No.16007630

Rean's VA seems positive enough about the whole thing, he visited cuckchan and did some small requests of Rean's voice, including some of his ALL OF ME lines form sen4

https://www.dropbox.com/s/al7xui5ql8gebz2/TakeMoreBack.mp3?dl=0


d08223  No.16007634

File: 76f3e2121e3a5c5⋯.jpg (163.03 KB, 861x1045, 861:1045, Nisa Sen 3 bingo.jpg)


73e5a0  No.16007661

Fuck man, this really bums me out. Nisa is shit and anyone who defends them is instantly a shill. I could csre less about speed in translation, i want quality. While i probably could go through this in japanese, i didnt want to because fuck a ps4. But now that nisa has it im not sure what to do because their pc ports are trash


4de956  No.16007832

>>16007661

Yep. Its a bad situation all around.


6a81e6  No.16007895

I'm fucking torn up inside. I've continued to swear off Ys VIII on all platforms (and I'm guessing there's still no reason to change my mind?), so I'm willing to believe I can go without getting Cold Steel 3.

But FUCK, I actually have to wonder if I'd take AKSYS and their "cool hipster meme" scripting with no english dub over this shit. And I LOVED the english cast of Cold Steel except maybe Ashly Burch, yet somehow I think her Millium is the one thing I CAN defend about that talentless whore. And if the game stays PS4 exclusive, that's even more reason to stay the fuck away, because unless Sony gets their Commiefornian head out of their ass, I can't keep supporting their products.

This whole situation sucks.


4de956  No.16007916

File: edcb6ab3dda1c73⋯.png (57.08 KB, 731x545, 731:545, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 0c90df3020197b9⋯.png (10.63 KB, 618x96, 103:16, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 876f9076fb2270b⋯.png (318.21 KB, 565x820, 113:164, ClipboardImage.png)

File: cc66175f96efe3b⋯.png (13.91 KB, 625x163, 625:163, ClipboardImage.png)

This """person""" is infuriating

>>16007895

I'd rather have Aksys than NISA. They fucked up with Tokyo Xanadu, and they're not good overall, but they're still better than NISA and CS3 has a better chance of coming out good under them than NISA

NISA is just so utterly trash, worse than every other option that its frankly unbelievable that they still exist as a company


4de956  No.16007984

File: fbd1c1ec6b252b3⋯.png (139.66 KB, 598x691, 598:691, ClipboardImage.png)

File: f2533d14ac0cd01⋯.png (13.24 KB, 594x153, 66:17, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 48bf542e623fa17⋯.png (1.17 MB, 762x838, 381:419, ClipboardImage.png)

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File: 2432254e7ee4841⋯.png (232.31 KB, 844x517, 844:517, ClipboardImage.png)

https://archive.fo/ml8jm

https://twitter.com/i/moments/876359816150740992

A tranny translator of all people is wailing on NISA pretty hard.

Funny stuff.

That whole "moment" thing is a nice compilation for farming content for mocking the Ys VIII translation, among other NISA games too, by the way.


c61685  No.16008016

>>16007916

Oh yeah, Aliseyun is a known NISA cock gobbler. It’s ironic since she’s supposed to be a lesbian.

>>16007984

It’s nice to see there are some people with brains even if they are trannies.


4de956  No.16008020

File: 47e5b65f5084d70⋯.png (527.83 KB, 682x606, 341:303, ClipboardImage.png)

christ, I think he almost certainly knew it was coming.


08d8ba  No.16008075

>>16008020

>yall have any idea how frustrating it was knowing this happened for almost a literal year and not being able to do or say anything about it, and seeing ys 8 get fucked up in EVEN WORSE WAYS the entire time

NDAs, but I knew it was coming too tbh.


4d7fa0  No.16008093

>>16008075

Anything else you can say now?


c61685  No.16008170

>>16007634

I can tell you the person who made that believes himself to be a “voice of reason” or “I have my head up my ass and want to make sure everyone who follows me parrots the dumb bullshit I say” and it’ll happen too. There are enough gullible idiots in his group who have no critical thinking ability and rely on him to give them opinions.


73e5a0  No.16008205

>>16008170

Im confused anon, are you saying this bingo board is wrong? almost all of it has been seen in previous games


4de956  No.16008214

>>16008170

I assume you're talking about some discord faggotry or something, but there's nothing wrong with the card itself as >>16008205 said


86b812  No.16008217

What people don't get about NISA is that it's not just a case where they fucked up a few things here and there, they have been shit from Day 1 and people have complained about their shoddy localization from the very beginning and it's never let up. Anyone around message boards during those early years know that the complaining began more the a decade ago and NISa has clearly never learned.

Anyone still spouting about "forgiveness" or "wait and see" are clear newfags who haven't play much NISA localized games.

"But [insert other localization group here] has done dumb stuff too" is irrelevant, NISA has a proven track record to be shit and other localization companies being shit too doesn't excuse it.

At this point you have to speak with your wallet, because it's clear all parties involved don't care about you.


c61685  No.16008220

>>16008205

I don’t say it’s wrong at all. I should clarify. The person who made the board really likes playing on both sides of the fence. One minute he dislikes NISA, the next he defends them. At this point he’s playing damage control for them not realizing the pattern that he himself pointed out with that board. He’s a hypocrite is what I’m saying.


4de956  No.16008229

>>16008220

"""Neutrals""" are hilarious, what a bunch of buffoons


73e5a0  No.16008242

>>16008220

I see. I have no reference as to who made that board so the comment didnt entirely make sense. At least the board itself is accurate even if normalfags have no idea why it is so


8a65e9  No.16008270

File: fd69461edc0b205⋯.jpg (865.21 KB, 1280x1024, 5:4, 1408306297998.jpg)

>>16007984

>falcom auctioned it off to the highest bidder and nisa had the most money


4de956  No.16008732

File: d0d3a1908aba013⋯.png (102.91 KB, 1107x793, 1107:793, ClipboardImage.png)

Today's been a pretty bad and infuriating fucking day.

Reminder to dislike any jewtube announcement videos or whatever and raise a general stink about this

youtube.com/watch?v=RyOHt7FSPI8


4de956  No.16008754

File: ef8b209176e961b⋯.png (24.89 KB, 1123x230, 1123:230, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 42efe2c40037cc4⋯.png (113.27 KB, 1070x801, 1070:801, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 77e752d5b9909d8⋯.png (77.48 KB, 1112x811, 1112:811, ClipboardImage.png)

Woops, that was the playstation announcement, the dislike bar on this one is at least a bit higher, but still not fucking enough and people are at least reaming them a little, but I can already see faggots forgiving them or giving them the benefit of the fucking doubt.

Fucking idiots.

youtube.com/watch?v=t6vva9KYRAc


4d7fa0  No.16008755

>>16008732

The comments in the two video I watched were mostly very skeptical and apprehensive.


2033a4  No.16008842

>>16008754

>pls don't mess it up

Like retards asking a dog with rabies to not bite them for the 60th time.


92c463  No.16008844

>>16008755

Yea most of the highly upvoted comments are apprehensive and the generic "wow can't wait XD" comments have relatively few thumbs up. Still I sure hope you guys don't break down and actually buy this shit.


73e5a0  No.16008848

OP or whoever said they would make a thread tomorrow you bettee not forget. Fuck nisa


4d7fa0  No.16008865

>>16008848

I will, but I want to see what they say at the panel first so I can put it in the OP too. If people like Hatsuu are involved that's important information to know. Also I'm going to be busy in the morning so I won't be able to make it until afternoon, but we're just page 11 now so we should still be good by then.


73e5a0  No.16008882

>>16008865

Thanks anon, didnt realize there was a panel for tomorrow. Guess theyll try and damage control as much as possible. Even with her on board it seems fairly late into the translation for such a massive script. What can you do. Fuck nisa.


4d7fa0  No.16008925

>>16008882

>fairly late into the translation for such a massive script

Well we're nine months out and VA hasn't been done yet, I don't think. Sean was just called in to do the trailer. That is enough time to edit a script and produce a dub, but we won't know until we have more info. The trailer had absolutely no footage of anything translated. In fact the menus were still in Japanese which means they were just showing old Falcom footage. We don't know how much, if any, is done yet. The panel tomorrow might give us more info. If the right people are on board I could hilariously see this as being a well localized game trapped inside a NISA shell, which would be the sort of irony that pops up in these types of situations. But it's way too early to be talking about stuff like that yet. We're in the info gathering stage for now. That stage is going to a last a while, probably.


73e5a0  No.16008936

>>16008925

I may just not know translation time frames but considering the scope of the game, the fact its nisa, and its only 9 or 10 months out sounds like it will be rushed. Im keeping my hopes incredibly low and expectations that it will be utter shit. Guess we'll see


41ec49  No.16009361

File: 5d38d5f62b01614⋯.jpg (470.87 KB, 1726x1303, 1726:1303, mgs diamond dogs not laugh….jpg)

This is the worst scenario. Why? Why did this happen? What have we done to deserve this? Why does everything good have to be ran through the mud? It's too cruel, I can't bear it! Take me away from this darkest timeline.


8a65e9  No.16009843

File: 3fbccfceace3de6⋯.jpg (286.04 KB, 766x1024, 383:512, 1384841123097.jpg)

>check gematsu comments

>full of faggots defending it

>Ys VIII is their only fuck up and they fixed it

>NISA haters are a vocal minority

That place has done nothing but degrade since the name change.


c61685  No.16009947

When the new thread is made, be sure to start posting all instances of NISA’s fuckups spread them continuously. Do not let up. Anyone you see saying “Ys 8 was their only fuckup but they fixed it” reply to them with only the facts. Their bias might be strong, but if you can show others around them the fuckups, you might be able to sway opinion to your favor. If they block you on twatter, show that. Make people understand that blocking someone does not make their stance stronger nor does it make the criticism disappear. We need more voices sending their concerns. More people spreading the facts. It’s time for the apologists to stop demonizing the people with complaints and trying to shout them down. This is our Falcom Civil War.


702434  No.16009983


702434  No.16010018

>>16009983

Can't even get the fucking audio right for the stream. Starting off strong.


702434  No.16010034

>>16010018

>>16009983

Calling localizing Danganronpa V3 "daunting" while they're undertaking Cold Steel 3 isn't a good sign.

And now they're pulling out the "outraged people want raw translations" strawman while discussing localization.


702434  No.16010239

Brittany/Hatsuu is working on it and doing editing, casting and recording.


702434  No.16010240

File: afdd6cf1450c8ab⋯.png (117.09 KB, 807x534, 269:178, PAX2 Twitch.png)

>>16010239

Forgot picture


702434  No.16010246

>>16010240

Also Kriss Knigge, and Ryan Thompson (both of whom also worked on ToCS1 and 2)

I don't know these people.


41ec49  No.16010260

>>16010240

>>16010239

Doesn't mean anything if they can't deliver a working product.


702434  No.16010271

>>16010260

I think the translation and casting might be okay.

It's just the technical aspect of it now


c61685  No.16010344

>>16010239

She has until fall to fix everything NISA fucked up while she wasn’t working on it. That’s a year’s worth of work assuming they got it at the tail end of 2017 and actually worked on it in that time. If not, she will have a year working on it if they snapped her up after she was fired late 2018. Either way, that is not enough time to finish something as massive as CS3. Expect another apology when it releases.


41ec49  No.16010350

>>16010271

Even if, NISA isn't getting a penny from me. Not that I could buy it seeing as it's PS4 exclusive, but even if.


0fd1d2  No.16010368

File: e52f44ce179e52f⋯.jpg (484.63 KB, 850x564, 425:282, Ao_soundtrack-mini_kea_and….jpg)

Well that was that, Nisa massacred Xseed.

For those of us who just want to play the series in English the light is green.


0a983c  No.16010371

>>16010271

>>16010246

>>16010240

>>16010239

If you're retarded enough to trust what is, at this moment, lip service then please kill yourself.

As the tranny said here

>>16007984

Its very likely a "too-little too late" situation, and not only that but we have no idea how much autonomy and power NISA will choose to reign over them with their own employees. They could claim seniority or override their changes or ignore everything they've done or fuck everything they've done up, or some combination of the above.

Nothing is proven whatsoever, and we have no idea how long any of them have been working on this or been at NISA. Don't be fucking retarded


0a983c  No.16010376

>>16010368

Fuck off shill


702434  No.16010398

>>16010371

It's true. I just wanted to hold on to a little bit of hope.


192e5e  No.16010400

>>16010344

>That’s a year’s worth of work

Bold of you to assume NISA has done jack shit. Also Hatsuu doesn't translate. She's there specifically to work with the VAs. The ones you actually want to know how long have been working for them are Ryan Thompson and Kris Knigge because they're the ones who would have actually done the script. Hatsuu isn't the key here since she's obviously been brought in to work with the cast as that was basically her old job. In any case, for right now we're going to have a hard time convincing people without more solid proof. Getting these names, regardless of when they got them, is going to be an easy counter argument for shills. Our best play is to keep a close eye on what NISA puts out in the coming months. Ys VIII showed obvious signs of shit well before release, so that's where we should look. The main focus should be looking for lore inconsistencies, obvious memes or Engrish, and anything that represents a sudden change in character. For instance: if Becky isn't Scottish anymore. Things like that.


0fd1d2  No.16010404

File: 38d6e9f978691ba⋯.png (57.09 KB, 220x166, 110:83, Blue_Gnosis_(Zero).png)

>>16010376

No, this isn't Reddit you can't downvote me I am sorry. In a year everyone will have forgotten about this and we can move on and talk about the games again. These things pass.


2033a4  No.16010407

>>16010344

Fixing it wont matter if NISA just throws it out, like they did with Durante's fix.

>>16010400

>if Becky isn't Scottish anymore.

>inb4 she's french.


c61685  No.16010421

>>16010404

Maybe you should go to reddit with your defeatist attitude, faggot.


41ec49  No.16010428

>>16010407

>inb4 she's french.

I can see this happening. And actually, I expect things like Becky to change. Not really the most important, part, though.


41ec49  No.16010429

>>16010404

>In a year everyone will have forgotten about this

Haha, good one, you have no idea what you're talking about, faggot.


9c8fae  No.16010438

>>16010400

>sudden change in character

What are the odds they mix Vivi and Linde up?


4de956  No.16010439

>>16010404

>this isn't reddit

Your shilling proves otherwise, kill yourself immediately

>>16010421

Its the NISA shill. He always shows up randomly, goes quiet for a time after people mock and humiliate him, and returns like nothing's ever happened and he's been doing it for multiple threads

>>15895289

>>15895293

>>15902805


192e5e  No.16010441

>>16010438

Those are the types of things to look for, yes.


2033a4  No.16010442

>>16010428

What if they mistake Vivi for Linde and vice versa?


41ec49  No.16010443

>>16010438

>>16010442

They'll just rewrite them to complete each other's sentences, because that's so funny.


8a65e9  No.16010449

>>16010443

Fucking stop.


192e5e  No.16010459

>>16010443

Vivi and Linde actually aren't together much in CS3 so the gag wouldn't really work even if they did it.


41ec49  No.16010512

>>16010459

Telepathy, then. Everyone knows twins have telepathy, right?

>>16010449

I'm sorry.


192e5e  No.16010572

File: 8284047d13025cc⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 82.46 KB, 593x541, 593:541, BeckyAccent.png)

https://archive.is/90eA1

Well fuck me I guess I look dumb now. I gotta say guys it's getting harder to find angles of attack when we have people saying things like it. I guess all we can do is wait for content to actually start judging.


192e5e  No.16010577

>>16010572

I really wish the window wouldn't remember clicking spoiler.


8a65e9  No.16010624

>>16010572

>there are faggots that hate Becky's accent

Disgusting.

Good news, though I'm still expecting the worst.


702434  No.16010665

>>16010624

>>16010572

Becky's accent was the first thing that endeared me to her, really.


4de956  No.16010677

>>16010572

Reminder not to get complacent.

Likely the only reason they did this at all was because of the intense backlash of Ys VIII. If anything this signals that all that shit had some kind of effect, as I don't really remember NISA doing anything like this before and they must be shit-scared to do this. At least, that's what I'm hoping.


4de956  No.16010686

>>16010677

and someone should make a post warning the falcom subleddit as much. If any large part of the community just "accepts things" we're very ample to get fucked. Hell, we're already fucked with NISA having any control at all ever over Falcom IPs. Right now this almost seems like a test run to see how much appeasement is required before most of the backlash they would normally receive would dissipate if they do shit like this


192e5e  No.16010709

>>16010677

I'm not getting complacent. I just thought it was funny that the moment I floated an idea for how they might fuck something up, a translator instantly said they were making sure to keep that part consistent. It's not really about complacency here. It's about actually having angles of attack.

>>16010686

Sadly, I don't think you're going to get much support. Feel free to do this but don't be surprised if the majority of the reddit/discord side of things is placated by these staff announcements. You might just end up frustrated. That's specifically why I said we need to wait to get our hands on some actual material from the game so we actually have something to work with.


4de956  No.16010722

>>16010709

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the people involved in this whole shitstorm in some way were browsing or lurking here


c61685  No.16010735

>>16010572

During the panel the faggots described Trails as “JRPG Game of Thrones with mechs” and that Cold Steel is the 8th entry. They obviously have no idea what the series even is despite being the publishers for the Cold Steel series in Europe. There is something you can attack with. They don’t even know the product they are trying to sell.


c61685  No.16010738

>>16010735

*that Cold Steel is the 7th entry.

Apologies


192e5e  No.16010791

>>16010735

We can certainly try but I can already tell you how people will counter it: "That's just the dumb staff making a mistake. The XSeed people didn't say that and they'll be the ones actually working on the game." And until we actually see content that can disprove that we're going to have a hard time making headway. I've dealt with these people for a long time and I know how they think.


40ea19  No.16010891

Need I remind you people that Falcom's first big push into the western gaming market ended with a massive lawsuit over copyright infringement. Their outreach to the west has always been a joke.


41ec49  No.16010895

File: 9fadd4df7223097⋯.jpg (45.68 KB, 360x271, 360:271, the face of eautism.jpg)

>>16010735

>described Trails as “JRPG Game of Thrones with mechs”

Bloody hell. Bloody fucking hell.


92c463  No.16010936

>>16010572

When they shit it out half baked it won't matter who's translating it.

>>16010735

What was this faggot in charge of exactly? Because if they're a director of anything or even a producer it means a lot worse.


192e5e  No.16010955

File: 1726961c5138607⋯.jpg (8.52 KB, 480x360, 4:3, NISA.jpg)

NEW BREAD

>>16010948

>>16010948

>>16010948

>>16010948

(I'm the original OP btw I'm just in a different location right now)




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