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97a096  No.28803[Reply]

I didn't quite get it as far as I'd hoped it would go, but it's a 'finished' game in that it has a menu, gameplay, and even a credits screen. Gameplay's pretty simple; you have a weapon that shoots flamey blasts of fiery death, but so do the bad guys. Most of them will try to kill you with their fiery death blasts, but you can dodge them, and when your blasts collide with theirs both blasts disappear. Instructions on the itch.io page. Made with Python3, Pygame, the Pymunk physics library, some Open Game Art assets, and a bit of spritework of my own. No .exe yet, maybe not ever because python's a bitch


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18f355  No.28757[Reply]

making an anti fascism game in which you storm the white house and remove the fascists from power and restore the white house to the people


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18f355  No.28795

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Agreed, this is the best timeline.

18f355  No.28796

>/pol/acks gettring this triggered over a tiny jam game nobody will remember 3 months later and spam their thought terminating cliches


18f355  No.28798


>spending all of your time on making a game to trigger a small subsection of people on an anonymous image board instead of doing something productive, interesting, and intellectually engaging.

wew lad

18f355  No.28801






Excuse me?

18f355  No.28802

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>Assuming life has some inherent meaning beyond shitposting

Super triggered over here, gentlemen.

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c2c000  No.28668[Reply]

HELLO /agdg/

As a total complete noob, where should I start if I want to make my own video game?

What languages do I need to learn, or would be most beneficial, or are the most common for 2D, side-scrolling and or over-head view games like Hotline Miami and La Mulana? I have no programming experience besides a little Javascript, so take that into account.

There's an engine I want to use. Its a popular one but I can't think of the name. I read that it allows anyone to use it for free even commercially unless they make $100,000 in a single year. Then they'd have to pay like a monthly fee or something.

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c2c000  No.28679


>learn C++

>open your mind on how the memory works with pointer

>make a bunch of of data structure in c++ such has linked list

>implement your own popular algorithm such has quicksort, radixsort, quickselect,...

>implement first binary tree

>learn a multimedia library(SDL, SFML,...)

>make fun stuff and shit

>realise you require linear algebra

>do your linear algebra

>start writting shitty 2D game

>realise you can't write proper software

>grab a book on design pattern

>start writting your shitty game

>learn other higher level language to boost devlopment

>realise you have absolute no skill in drawing

>learn to draw with pen/paper

>start with perspective(put a box, fruit, stuff in front of you and start to draw them)

>get good

>learn to draw basic human anatomy

>16h a day later for 6 month drawing

>grab a tablet

>slowly get good with it

>1 month later

>finally start doing the 2D game

>realise you forgot the sound



also godot is a pretty nice engine

c2c000  No.28693

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c2c000  No.28740


I thought GameMaker was hated for some reason? Or is it just the licencing fee?

In the same boat as OP, looking into/using Godot. Totally free. Big update made it "viable". But their showreel is some real shit (basic early internet Flash Games on iPhone tier).

c2c000  No.28746


Nodev memesters hate anything and everything.

The people who own Gamemaker are supposedly some kikes, but the engine itself is very good.

Godot is a pretty precarious engine. It appears to be capable but we lack proof in the form of good games made with it, and the next update is going to break compatibility with old versions because of some of coming overhauls, but those overhauls supposedly improve it significantly.

I'm personally pretty excited about Godot, but it's complicated to recommend at the moment for the reasons mentioned above.

c2c000  No.28778


My child, no one other than other devs will know or even understand what your game is made in or what technologies it uses, as long as your game works as intended.

Find a language/library/whateverthefuck, and see if something LIKE what you want to create has already been made in it. This will let you know how feasible whatever the fuck you chose is for your needs.

Then go through the tutorial pages of that technology. Bonus points if you can find a tutorial that makes something similar to what you want to create as the end-product.

If you hate using the technology/language/library as you go through the tutorial, decide if you want to tough it out, or try something else. Rinse and repeat until you find something you enjoy working with.

Pro Tip: Don't write your own engine.

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b91bfc  No.28741[Reply]

Explain something to me.

why do games need years upon years of hundred of people working on them?

What makes the average game to take so much time and effort?

The coding?

The art?

Is the amount of content it has (hundreds of hours)?

b91bfc  No.28743

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>average game takes years upon years with hundreds of people

No it doesn't.

AAA games take a long time despite the large amount of people because the games are relatively much more massive in terms of content and graphic assets and much finer in world design.

Smaller games take a long time because it takes a long time to make something good. You can make a rolling ball in unity easily because you have no plan, you're just doing some random thing. But to design a good game and build all the stories and assets and code and shit for it and make sure everything is good in practice takes time, especially if your team is small.

b91bfc  No.28747


The main timesink depends on genre of the game and scope of the project.

Sometimes it can be level design (including dialogues etc.), code optimisation or anything else really (engines used to be troublesome in the past as well, as many upstarts had to make their own or rework some old ones).

Its usually 3D assets tho. I still remember the conversion from prerendered 2D to 3D boning rpg's for some 6 years, putting an extra pressure on the budgets, rapidly reshaping dev teams and dropping the quality of the gameplay and storytelling into the toilet as publishers rallied to divert all resources and attention to graphics. I'm still waiting for my real Fallout 3.

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5c4c85  No.28722[Reply]

Hello everyone

I am posting the latest build of my team's project


We're making neat little Zelda Hydlide Dragon Slayer clone action adventure game starring a robot boy who's lost his memories.

Post comments, suggestions, etc. either ITT or on our blog (read the readme)

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5c4c85  No.28728


don't ever call your game a X or Y clone

its really bad

Also a list of features (both planned or implemented) or description of gameplay would be appreciated

5c4c85  No.28730


All I see is a generic sprite with generic attacks that can't move until it finishes whatever animation it started.

much as I hate to get defensive, it's a 3d model actually and making it stop until it's done and then actually restarting has proven a bitch and a half

but yeah, he is pretty fucking generic. Haven't fleshed him out beyond being a base model for building characters off of.


actual points here

yes, it's a school project. A great deal of the last few weeks has been checking my game logic, with making sure that the player character cycles animations correctly, walks and idles on command, can't walk when doing something else, etc. Everyone starts learning this shit somewhere somewhere, I'm starting here

I suppose calling it a prototype is inaccurate if you're expecting a brand new mechanic (although the drone is a generally uncommon thing in vidya, even if I don't have anything built for it to interact with yet). It is, however, a learning experience for me and my team


>don't ever call your game a X or Y clone

>its really bad

in what sense for a what is essentially a learning project? La-Mulana freely admitted to starting life as a Maze of Galious clone

>Also a list of features (both planned or implemented) or description of gameplay would be appreciated

fair enough:

it's a top-down action adventure game

gameplay features include: a melee attack with enemy knockback as well as player knockback when damaged (which proved difficult as you can't do that by just applying physics in Unity if the model is using a character controller instead of a rigidbody)

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5c4c85  No.28731


>Everyone starts learning this shit somewhere

That's no fun, falling back on "this isn't real" takes half of the actual learning out of the experience. Figure out how to deal with the flak without passing the buck. Isn't that why you're testing the waters on some obscure forum as the 'Social Media Director'?

>much as I hate to get defensive, it's a 3d model actually and making it stop until it's done and then actually restarting has proven a bitch and a half

get used to not making excuses, no one wants to hear them; just owning up to the problem leaves a much better impression. If you have to say something it should be how you plan to fix the problem or why I should be exited about the results or whatever. It's not like actual game companies don't fuck up all the time.

>if you're expecting a brand new mechanic

You don't need a new mechanic for prototypes to be useful, a unique implementation of existing ones are tricky enough. Most action games probably go through dozens of iterations before finding the right game feel.

>don't ever call your game a X or Y clone

The term clone isn't bad in itself, you're trying to create a memorable image in the potential customer's head, so unless you'll filling it with something else they'll just walk away thinking of that other game. Sometimes just saying you're going to revive a beloved, old franchise is enough to get people exited, but most of the time that's backed up by copying the art and theme of those games as well.

>how does the game play feel?

Shouldn't be asking this until the game works as intended, not limited to the sprite not moving during animations. Fix the obvious stuff first, before burning through fresh impressions.

>Does the character walk too fast or too slow for your tastes?

Too early to ask this question, and it's probably not going to give any useful answers anywPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

5c4c85  No.28732


Incidentally, what is your objection to stopping during weapon use? If I'm replicating the controls in top down zeldas, that's practically a requirement.

5c4c85  No.28736


I was mainly commenting on how unpolished it felt, if it actually played like a Zelda game I wouldn't have said anything about it.

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77393a  No.28593[Reply]

>hours of suffering through XML parsing

>figuring out the thousand little rules like non-deformation bones not allowed, root bone must have weight > 0 and so on by trial and error

>finally no null pointer exceptions

>webm related

End my life violently

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77393a  No.28618

Check all ur formulas, matrix/quatertnion multiplication orders. Start by animating a mesh with a single bone. Child bones have to inherit from parent bones in a hierarchy. Took me a week to do it all the first time.

77393a  No.28621

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It does work with a few other .dae files. It has to be a matter of exporting from Blender. When i create simple rigs myself it works without issues. In webm related, i got the cowboy figure from a tutorial series and created the red things.

It has to be something that happens when you do "advanced" rigs. For the animations in the OP and my first post i created the rigs myself. Possibly when flipping extremities or parenting to non-deformation bones. I suppose i could figure it out exactly with A/B-tests but instead i'll use AssImp instead, a well established library for all of the file parsing and loading.

However to do that i have to migrate from LWJGL 2 to 3 which is a huge pain because they decided to rip out all of the useful bits and replace it with fuck all so i'll have to do that part on my own. >inb4 java

77393a  No.28669


>2nd webm

this should be in /agdg/ banner

77393a  No.28680

Just use MonoGame and Protogame's animation class. It has no anim blending but it just works. Just use binary FBX which you can cross check in Noesis for sanity.

77393a  No.28713



unless you're that thinmatrix dude that does lwjgl tutorials on youtube you should prolly kys my man

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ced2b2  No.28698[Reply]

Consent is an important issue in today's world so this year's Life.Love Game Design Challenge will feature it as the core subject matter for this year's game design challenge.

Make a game design concept based around the idea of consent and the importance of it for a chance to win some great prices.

You can win cash prices for up to $10k for your game idea.

For more information please visit


ced2b2  No.28700

eat shit you faggot

ced2b2  No.28703

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So make a rape game, highlighting how the women being raped are a part of the FetLife scene and consent to everything going on? You could even program in safe words for when the throat fucking gets a little too real.

Alternative idea: a game where you are a straight white male unwilling but forced to consent to the matriarchy (forcing of personal pronouns, mixed sex bathrooms, genderfluid SJW BS) and unable to live a normal, traditional life with a wife that stays home and raises the kids.

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e39085  No.28568[Reply]

What do you guys think about adding voice acting on your games? Would you do little quips and sounds like Banjo Kazooie or actual lines? Discuss.

e39085  No.28572

Bad voice acting is a bad idea. Unless you can get good voice acting in, it will probably hurt your game more than it helps it.

e39085  No.28573


How about so bad it's good voice acting?

e39085  No.28576


Only if your game is an ebin meme game, i.e. a joke.

e39085  No.28579


Of course professionally made assets are better than the generic royalty free stuff, but whether it's worth the time/money is too situational to provide a meaningful answer. Without specifics you may as well be asking what kind outfit the player should be wearing.

fce70a  No.33223

This thread 404'd, bringing it back.

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14a7f8  No.28536[Reply]

This is my and my friend first project. i'm the idea guy and i'm working on learning how to code i study italian literature but want to focalise on informatics editory, he is a programmer.

The game is about Margutte, an half-giant that wandering around found an empty tavern where he ate and sleeped only to find himself trapped and strapped of his most important belonging: his belly.

The game is a boss rush 2D platformer inspired by touhou shoot the bullet and touhou double spoiler. the bosses don't have an healthbar but a countdown and when it reach 0 they die.

almost all the bosses have helpers who throws healing attacks at them gicing them more time. the way to stop them are by incapacitating the healers but in most cases the effective way is by intercepting the healing attack and having it heal you instead of the boss.

Margutte has an healthbar but when it reaches 0 instead of killing him just revive him and gives a time to the boss.

Marguttes moveset consist of:

>Jumping (we have yet to decide exactly how)

>Changing his own gravity metal storm style this has to be slow enough to allow for multiple gravity shift without touching the borders and allowing for strifing left and right

>Hiding in his boots to become temporarly invincible

>Attack with his laugh who have not much of a radius and drain bosses time

As seen that is important for a platformer to have a pen and paper made map i decided that for planning in the material world for our game to make a pretty ugly stage with tokens who represents various phases of the figths and possible movesets.

pics related are those

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the red star where his belly used to be is his hitbox

Also here is the first boss Trevigante, the black shadow with his healer Luna

The second Boss is Faith the money looking vitruvian man thing with his healer Candle.

Trevigante: pretty simple, shoots at you slow projectile or undodgeable ones (so you get to use the boots) while he gets slowly healed by luna who circumnavigate the stage. Trevigante is the only boss that tecnically gets killed just by waiting him out

Faith is the wheel boss that function as any other wheel boss function in any other vidya, candle walks in the map and leaves one to three flames that are stationary who heals Faith but can be collected by Margutte instead

14a7f8  No.28538

The game is being written in unity. we are using basic sprites for it but i found out a friend of mine could make us the art and i know a lot of classic composers who are willing to write OSTs for us

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608e73  No.26012


>does it work out if you just copy other PC games with third person perspective? all the 3D platformers I can think of are on console so I'm not sure what a good example is without a controller.

I'm stuck on that too. I'm thinking of copying Assassin's Creed since that game is the closest you can get to a modern platformer + third person shooter on a PC. Too bad I hate Assassin's Creed.

Thanks for playtesting, I'll probably take down the demo tomorrow so I can implement everything you mentioned.

608e73  No.26108

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apparently there are developers who specialize in dynamic camera movement.

608e73  No.28530

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Is the project dead? Did most /agdg/ anons go back to 4chan?

608e73  No.28533

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>mentioning cuckchan by its name

608e73  No.28534

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why not just make an invisible sphere around the player and have the camera an invisible sphere following the perimeter of the larger sphere, it can dynamically get smaller or larger depending on what direction the camera is facing and how close or far it is to a wall.

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b00c98  No.28453[Reply]

The main question I have about this is if it would be possible to build it in Game Maker. I've used it in the past to make stuff like platformers and top-down shooters, but something like this is obviously way more complicated.

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b00c98  No.28592


Can you link to those threads? I've found stuff for normal RPGs, but if you want to make one of those you can just use RPGMaker.

b00c98  No.28599


the term you're looking for is weeaboo grindan sim tbh

b00c98  No.28605


Only if you play it like a faggot.

b00c98  No.28606


*thinks* oh are you getting weeaboo grindan sims mixed up with tabletop/gestalt role-playing games and/or computer role-playing games

b00c98  No.28622


Using asterisks to denote actions make you a faggot

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654df6  No.28423[Reply]

It is playable at http://tiledbattle.com

It only lacks the players :'(

Here is an old video


I removed fireball since then

I'll use this thread to devlog, we can discuss features and weapons and game modes here too!

Please play my game!!

This week I'm trying to make it run on mobile browser, then maybe later I think I'll go back to making npcs and PvE

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654df6  No.28439

Ok, I might make an mmo, just so I can create lots of content.

654df6  No.28444


I mean why do you want us to play?

do you need QA testers? looking for feedback? is the game almost done and you just want people to play it?

if you don't explicitly ask for help, people aren't going to spend the effort to play a half finished game looking for bugs and then writing up a report.

and also why should we play?

making your game appealing is just as important as making it fun. you have more leeway on a game dev board but you still only get a glance or two before the post is disregarded indefinitely. should be spending the few sentences you have of someone's attention explaining the game's potential and why it's exiting instead of how it isn't finished.

congrats on having something presentable though, more than what most people can put together. what engines tools are you making it with?

654df6  No.28481


He wants you to play his shit game so he can spread his virus around

654df6  No.28502


I'm not an advertiser, but a dev. Maybe I shouldn't have said "please play my game" but still it is playable. In this community we usually play each other's games and give reviews and suggestions, I think, and that's what I was expecting.

654df6  No.28523


>I'm not an advertiser, but a dev

as long as you're a solo dev, you're stuck with all of the jobs. and it's a little counter intuitive but proper marketing can be about as important to the game play as the art or story. as least brush up on communication skills if you're going to write a dev blog.

>In this community we usually play each others games and give reviews and suggestions

It looks like you're just trying to copy the frame work of tibia, which is fine, but that's all it is. with no other players and no objective all I can do is click around and make sure all the buttons work. there isn't a game here to review and I don't think people here are interested in designing other people's games. making progress is fantastic, you're just not at the point to be taking game play feedback yet.

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666b4c  No.28478[Reply]

How do i go about making a game like dwarf fortress where the world and NPC's generates by itself?

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666b4c  No.28516


If you want procgen, just read up on (perlin) noise, midpoint displacement, etc. You need to know about fractals, but it's really not all that hard.

It's just about writing patterns most likely to result in something desirable and having an algorithm to determine whether some result is garbage, in which case you chug it.


He stated multiple times how he can't be bothered to learn about source control and some people actually rewrote the rendering code for him, which was a huge bottleneck. They sped it up considerably, but he said he doesn't understand the code anymore.

So yes, he really isn't a good programmer and DF is supposed to be hell to work on, but he just has this autistic dedication.

666b4c  No.28650


It really doesn't. Tarn doesn't have Computer Science background and the guy writing URR only has like psychology background. What you need is dedication and patience.

666b4c  No.28656


That's like saying you don't need to be educated as a carpenter to build a house. Technically you don't, anyone can lean four walls against each other and put sheet metal over it. But if you want something reliable and doesn't take ten times longer to build than it should, then learning the theory and tools available to programmers is going to save time in the long run.

Also the first two years of CS are not that difficult for anyone already computer literate. The free online tutorials that teach game programming cover most of the same stuff and can be plowed through in a few months.

666b4c  No.28665


you need to study procedural generation

there are many different well documented ways of generating stuff like terrain, but for more specific stuff like items and NPCs you might have to make your own algorithms

666b4c  No.28666



>people unirocally saying "drumpf" and voting on aleppoman


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10e31f  No.28506[Reply]

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51be66  No.27165[Reply]


Here's my collection of vidya books. Let me know if you have any requests (I have memberships in a bunch of piracy sites) or if anything else deserves to move to the Hipster Garbage folder. I work odd hours, though, so it might take me a day to get back to you.

re: https://8ch.net/v/res/9934620.html

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51be66  No.27203


Thanks anon.

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51be66  No.28492

wowee both the links are gone (。•́︿•̀。)

51be66  No.28497

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>to a piracy site

gee whiz, OP, i wonder if they'll even let you suck their dicks for faster download speeds

51be66  No.28822

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