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File: 6fe7666ce737567⋯.jpg (186.02 KB, 1134x491, 1134:491, heaven-or-hell.jpg)

199005  No.1639[Reply]

I have been pondering this question for a while; it keeps me up at night:

Let's say that you are about to enter heaven but behind you are 1, 15, 1000 or infinity numbers of unbelievers doomed to hell behind you except if you are willing to spend the rest of eternity in hell God will let the unbelievers behind you into heaven.

What would you do? The only thing I could think of doing is having to spend the rest of eternity in hell just so they could go to heaven.

90fa3f  No.1640

That would be selfless of you, but that purely an intellectual dilemma. Everyone is either judged righteous or not exclusively on their faith in Jesus.


72cb23  No.1667

>>1639

Jesus made that sacrifice so I don't have to. Those multitudes had their chance.


59075f  No.1722

Christ's sacrifice already overcame their sins. If they weren't willing to accept that they wouldn't be willing to accept anyone else's sacrifice either. Those who are in hell choose it.


8c606b  No.1729

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>>1639

>not depending upon the judgement of God as perfect

tch tch tch, OP. Don't you know that God will have judged them unwilling? He wouldn't let them out of hell even if you did made the offer. And, if He has already judged you as good-by-Christ, He would not allow even one of His holy ones to fall into hell.




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88cba5  No.1719[Reply]

What's /christianity/'s thoughts on Southern Israelite?

http://southernprotestant.com/

see the about section for his theology

4abe37  No.1723

cringe


ee7e0e  No.1728

>>>/christian/

stop spamming every board




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e8e021  No.401[Reply]

> Being me

> 15 years

> All my life be agnostic

> Friend tell me to enter paganism

> Coverting to paganism and going to rituals sometimes

> Making fun of Christians

> In a ritual use a bible and burn it in honor in Thor

> In the sect they were sometimes stripped and latigated or buried in order to obtain the energy of nature

> 18 years

> No longer go to rituals so often but still be a pagan

> Leave the university with some friends and go to dinner in a Subway

> See an Orthodox church

> To have very good architecture

> 5 days later

> Be the celebration of Ostera

> Christians celebrate Easter

> Feel inside me a strange energy

> Decide to go to the Orthodox Church

> Accept and feel better than being in my pagan sect

> Baptize me and be Orthodox Christianity

> 2018

> Be 19 years old

> Go to church often

> Be happy as an orthodox

810cbf  No.1695

Congrats, you're still a pagan.


13eb25  No.1696

>>1695

Based


8143dd  No.1704

>>1695

was it necessary to bump this?


5884e3  No.1711

God Bless, OP.




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ccc50f  No.802[Reply]

Is it ever possible that knocking on doors with the gospel is a bad idea because of the area's culture?

Is it true anywhere in the US?

If so, what's the alternative that brings it to them?

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c44629  No.1697

>>1694

What do you mean? It's still there just like that, but there's additions now


52d2ee  No.1701

>>1697

They took out some of the detail and gave it a pastel color pallet.


6e0ece  No.1703

>>1701

I don't think they did, I've been there


52d2ee  No.1708

>>1703

Oh, well I'm just going off of what I saw on street view.


6e0ece  No.1709

>>1708

That's ok friend




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2fd532  No.1359[Reply]

As I understand it, the "birth control" pill firstly stops conception, but in the event of conception it's an abortifacient and so causes an abortion. This is obviously evil.

I told my fiance about this and so we'll need to plan to NOT use the pill, and she told me about this nuva ring. It releases hormones to prevent eggs from developing, so conception never happens. What do you think?

I'm skeptical of messing with hormones, but that's beside the moral component.

What do you think? I'm not of the opinion that contraception is wrong, but I'm happy to hear if you have a compelling argument.

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4e177b  No.1524

>>1520

Define sodomy and prove it


02f031  No.1536

>>1518

>Do you even GET what God's plan for marriage is, anon?!

God's plan for marriage is reproduction, not making your pee-pee tingle


6cea9c  No.1601

>>1536

>making your pee-pee tingle

Please point to the specific sentence in my wall-of-text >>1518 in which I stated that this was God's intent.

Correct.

You cannot. Check and mate.


76b604  No.1687

>>1524

If it's not vaginal, it's sodomy.


efd2f8  No.1688

>>1687

How did you arrive at that definition




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df4d8c  No.1683[Reply]

Psalm 14:1 says The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."; this sounds less like something from the bible and more like something an apologist might say to an atheist and I'm sure apologists have used this particular verse. During bible times there weren't really any atheists because at the time the only explanation to how the world could be so complex and "masterfully designed" is a god or gods, so did God in his divine foresight saw fight to include this verse for all the Christians in the future to use to stump supposed stupid atheists in their tracks? The truth is that the often overlooked part is "in his heart", what does this mean?

Heart is often used in a more poetic context throughout the bible for instance Pharaohs heart was hardened and where treasure is so to is your heart(I'm honestly not aware if the bible even ever says "heart" in the context of an anatomical heart). We can conclude that heart could mean soul or character or whatever makes you, you; I don't think Psalm 14:1 is talking about atheists who proudly proclaim that there is no god but rather about lukewarm compromises who might say they believe in God with their mouths but with their heart they are wicked, lawless heathens who might as well not believe there is a God because they live their daily lives as if there is not God.

Us Christians are exactly the same as the people at the time of the flood or the people in Sodom and Gomorrah, we say that there is a God but live secular lives trying to make tons of money and not listening to what Jesus said. We hate our enemies and love our friends, we make sure our families are happy and well-fed while ignoring our family members half-way across the globe who are starving and poor. We curse God for calling 20 poor and starving kids home to heaven a minute sitting on our earthly treasures and wondering why he could allow such suffering. Our treasures will consume our flesh and the rust and moths will testify against us on judgment day. We call Jesus Lord, Lord every Sunday just like the people at the flood and in Sodom and Gomorrah. Our hearts need to quit being atheist.

>pic sorta related…

880252  No.1686

tl;dr?




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c6fd3b  No.1577[Reply]

United Methodist Church defies mainline Protestant history by saying no to the sexual revolution

Albert Mohler predicts a schism based on comparison to our own conservative-liberal struggle as Southern Baptists

>Going back to the 1970s, 80s, and 90s, there was a similar dynamic within the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest Protestant denomination. Conservatives won during those decades and the more liberal factions, churches, and even associations of churches eventually severed their relationship with the Southern Baptist Convention. We are likely to see something very similar now in the United Methodist Church, but it's easier for churches to leave a Baptist Convention because we believe in local church autonomy. Local churches, they define their own ministry, they own their own property.

>The Southern Baptist Convention for example, was never numbered among those mainline Protestant denominations, but the United Methodist Church was. The question is for how long now will that be true? That liberal Protestant world is enthusiastically devoted to the sexual revolution in its fullness. The United Methodist Church, by the vote that took place yesterday, is not going in that direction. Thus, it is unlikely that the denomination as a whole will continue to be a part of mainline Protestantism. The church is certainly likely to split with liberals identifying with mainline Protestantism and with conservatives increasingly identifying with historic Christian orthodoxy.

https://albertmohler.com/2019/02/27/briefing-2-27-19/

I don't see why the conservative wing of the UMC wouldn't just begin associating with the already established conservative wesleyan denominations. What's going to happen?

fc9ea6  No.1582

How could any bible-believing Christian stomach being in the UMC?


d5bb2b  No.1587

>>1582

butthurt

>>1577

>United Methodist Church defies mainline Protestant history by saying no to the sexual revolution

We shouldn't be living in times where simply saying 'no' is called courageous, but here we are and I'm glad to see this.

>I don't see why the conservative wing of the UMC wouldn't just begin associating with the already established conservative wesleyan denominations.

It's the other group(s) which failed to capitalize on the decades of freefall of mainstream denominations. If they wanted to shepherd those who reject modernism then they needed to make that outreach any time between the 1960s and today.


fc9ea6  No.1608

>>1587

>butthurt

It's an honest question


e1bc7d  No.1682

File: e1e7f271e26d332⋯.jpg (11.75 KB, 200x275, 8:11, okabe_what.jpg)

>>1587

>How could any bible-believing Christian stomach being in a liberal church

>hurr durr butthurt

what?!




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c38f84  No.1670[Reply]

89b6ec  No.1679

Depends on if you think epistolary messages to leaders imply plurality at one location, or one per congregation




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f52234  No.1618[Reply]

Based

Nobody was more /ourguy/ than Rushdoony

a35ad9  No.1619

somebody make a rushdoony pepe pleas


c86b75  No.1636

What did he do


05d853  No.1642

>>1636

Father of Christian Reconstructionism

Wide influence on the Christian right / evangelicalism through his academic career

Prolific writer


683638  No.1669

>>1618

>aspie larper power fantasy

top kek lad




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9d16b7  No.1614[Reply]

I enjoy penis. Is this ok?

9d16b7  No.1616

maybe




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a0fd55  No.1609[Reply]

I can't imagine any biblical style miracle that doesen't look like some cheap movie special effect.

588c78  No.1610

How do you mean, could you give a few examples? Part of it being a miracle is that it's so unbelievable, yet it still happens because God is so powerful.


4961f1  No.1611

Miracles are supernatural events that attest to God, they have to be fantastic by definition




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dccd9e  No.1317[Reply]

Repost cause some ass-blasted jannie banned me for this on /christian/. When researching various spoops I often come across some Christians objecting (with varying levels of theological support) to some concepts that are popular within the community which discusses the paranormal.

So what do you think, /christianity/? Are all ghosts demons in disguise? Are ayys demons in disguise? Are there theological objections to the existence of paranormal entities, be they ghost, goblin, ghost-goblin, or extraterrestrial? What about bigfoot? Inter-dimensional beings? Occultism? The cult of inter-dimensional bigfoot?

This thread is for discussion of all things paranormal from a Christian perspective, /x/-tier biblical creatures such as demons included.

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ee6115  No.1334

>>1333

I appreciate how you're phrasing this

Assuming it's real, and it can't be a human spirit, it must be a demonic spirit. I think it's interesting, I just don't place a lot of stock as in it compels me to find it believable. The weird video recording a security monitor, it's presence in a "TOP 5" youtube vid, and there's low publicity. I happen to work for the disney company and I feel like I would have heard about it if it were significant.


848ce9  No.1357

>>1317

A lot of these figures are a result of hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations that your mind conjures up. Many who experience them are in sleep paralysis as well and don't know that these conditions they're unaware of arise from sleep apnea, poor sleep hygiene, and being fatigued among other things.


0dcc04  No.1362

>>1357

I don't doubt the phenomenon of sleep paralysis is genuine, but it's become one of the many convenient catch-alls for skeptics to handwave away anything paranormal. Witness an apparition? Sleep paralysis induced hallucination. Witness something terrorizing you in the night while trashing your room? Either sleep walking along with vivid nightmares, or actually you're just a schizophrenic or a liar. Multiple people claiming they witnessed the same paranormal event together? Shared delusions. People who think like this will on principle never accept any evidence as genuine.

And based on the standard that they hold any claim they don't like to, these varied psychological rationalisations haven't even been proven to exist, nonetheless that they're as common as they would need to be to explain every instance of someone witnessing something paranormal. And, to compound the point, to observe that it happens *at all* proves that it isn't in some way caused by a paranormal force (or in principle couldn't ever be), how? It's like saying poisoning can't be real because organs have been shown to spontaneously fail naturally.

And those're just ones that plausibly *might* fit the rationalisations, for things like bigfoot, ufos, or other cryptids, it's barely more than "you just imagined it, lol." Yeah, you're brain just conjured a bear (which as a hunter you've seen a thousand times, or were even intentionally looking for) into a ten foot ape that reeked so bad it burned your nostrils. It also turned a bird into an eight foot monster with glowing red eyes that chased and landed on the roof of your car (also just hearing about it made strangers in the same town see it too lol, firmly established mass delusion again). I'm not committed to believing these things are necessarily monsters or even mundane undiscovered creatures, but strong testimony demands an explanation better than the anemic non-answer of "you just imagined it." If you'll believe that just because it's the supposed "rational" explanation, you'll believe anything.


99727a  No.1364

>>1362

I mean I'm highly skeptical of the phenomena experienced by the witness while in bed which is where the hallucinations I described occur.

>And based on the standard that they hold any claim they don't like to, these varied psychological rationalisations haven't even been proven to exist

The hallucinations (which have both physical and psychological explanations for) occurring in bed highly correlate with physical conditions that the sufferers are not aware of or seek treatment for. I had daily night time hallucinations and they only went away when a doctor explained to me I had sleep apnea among other physical problems associated with sleep. I believed they were all supernatural and not caused by anything physical within me which caused them to keep reoccurring until having a reason to disbelieve them and fix the physical root of the problem. I feel this is mostly the case for hallucinations that occur while out of bed as well and most people who experience such phenomena have a bias towards wanting to believe they're real which makes them not stop reoccuring or are plain out lying.

>strong testimony demands an explanation

The testimonies aren't strong and don't really need an explanation since things like Bigfoot aren't pressing problems other than to those who find it interesting.


d2f701  No.1600

>>1317

>Are all ghosts demons in disguise?

No. Witch of Endor. Bible believes in ghosts and medieval Christians did too. Christian disbelief in ghosts is a form of modernism period.




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1c5bcc  No.1519[Reply]

Simple questions to help settle a debate:

Would (do) you read Christian fantasy novels? I grant you, romance aside, there aint much out there

Would you read a Christian novel that had magic in it?

Would you read a Christian novel that had magic in it if the magic is demonstrably (albeit in the end) demonic in origin and destructive in a user's life?

IF you said "no", final follow-up questions:

Have you read Lord of the Rings?

Did you notice the magic in it?

Why was that "okay" but other novels involving magic are not?

Please use flags for this one, m80s. I'd appreciate it.

6a7aa0  No.1526

I don't read fiction personally, but I'm not opposed in principle.

I'm more likely to watch a fiction film with magic, and have.

Lord of the Rings and Chronicles of Narnia are obviously Christian stories, just fantastic and metaphorical.

I think parents should have their children steer clear of non-christian magic stories like Harry Potter until they're of a high enough age.


0013f8  No.1528

>Would (do) you read Christian fantasy novels?

I've read LotR and one of the Narnia books, but that's about it.

Most of my reading is either Scripture, a Church Father, histories, or something else.

I'm a very dry man, you see.

>Would you read a Christian novel that had magic in it?

Depends on what the author means by "magic".

I think it should be noted that Tolkien didn't consider what Gandalf and the Elves did as "magic", nor did they consider it as such in the books.

Its explained as having a better knowledge and grasp of the spiritual nature of certain things (like how an advanced enough technology can be seen as "magical" by primitive people).

The only group that does anything close to "magic" is the evil characters, and that's entirely appropriate.

On the side of being cautious, I wouldn't.

>Would you read a Christian novel that had magic in it if the magic is demonstrably (albeit in the end) demonic in origin and destructive in a user's life?

Again, depends on how it's being presented and how detailed it is.

If it's to demonstrate how fruitless any attempts at witchery is, sure.

But Scripture tells us that Saul went to consult the witch of endor, part of the series of events ultimately resulting in his downfall as king of Israel. So if I need to share a story of how fruitless witchery is, I'd share that (or how Simon the Magician gets rekt in Acts).


385ce0  No.1586

>>1519

Totally fine with it.


3bed5b  No.1590

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>>1528

>I think it should be noted that Tolkien didn't consider what Gandalf and the Elves did as "magic"

Mmm. (pic related)

Tolkien may use words like "craft" to describe what the Elves and Istari did, that secret knowledge of how the universe works, but that seems to me to be splitting hairs. It's magic. It is not a power that men had, it was … alright, maybe I can't use the term "supernatural" since T would insist that it was plain natural but you just had to be old enough (or imbued enough) to learn how to use it, but even men over hundreds of generations never seemed to master any of it. Either way, it certainly isn't anything we would recognise from our world.

It's magic by another name at the very least. Everyone who reads it sees it thusly. But that comes down to definitions. potato, potAto, etc

>>1526

>Lord of the Rings and Chronicles of Narnia are obviously Christian stories

>obviously

Narnia, sure, but LotR aint. Obvious, I mean. What's Christian about it? That the good guys won? Pretty sure that happens in the Marvel universe as well.

The novels reek of Norse/old Germanic mythology that I'm surprised Gandalf doesn't get called Wednesday by someone in the know and he is followed around by ravens.

Oh, no, that's right, he has eagles instead.

We may "extra liber" know that Tolkien is a cathbro and there's "angels peeking" and so on, but you'd not know it from a plain read of the novels. (I know I didn't on first read, though I was only a couple of years old as a Christian.) Too much has to be foreknown, and always – as I just did – has alternative explanations.

If nothing else, this is what has always disappointed me about Tolkien's writing. But he insisted that mythologies (which LotR is) shouldn't be didactic, but should just "be". I'll respect him as an artist, but as aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




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783366  No.206[Reply]

I'm surprised this didn't happen earlier to be fair.

But now posting the mascot of the board aswell as posting "short texts" or crusader pictures warrant a ban.

Well, there goes a cozy community. Maybe Synagogue of Satan may be more real than people think.

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783366  No.356

Just a heads up, there is an admin on /christian/ claiming the board was reassigned. Still no revocation of any bans and anime is still being actively deleted. At this point it seems like just more despicable lies from the goons to distance themselves from their own actions.


783366  No.357

>>356

Still, it's vexxing to have our biggest board basically stolen and used to promote marxist propaganda (after having dank posting banned).

At least from the good news side, means /christian/ is influential enough to scare a few people

Can't anybody contact Alex?


7824ce  No.377

/kjv/ is dead, /christianity/ is dead …

Still not clear why people keep going back to /christian to get their heinny whooped.

More than half my posts have been deleted because muh rule-3 (apparently reading the bible yourself and believing the Holy Spirit never said he got bored and left goes against some portion of the creed that … talks about the Holy Spirit, and the word of god…)

do we dare try to raid them for members or something? I found this place by looking at the claims list, hoping their BO would get bored and forget to log in for a while.


964f9c  No.378

>>377

>>>/kjv/

new owner over there; might be the place to go now.


1b4566  No.1574

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They also deleted a pagan shill thread, I don't know if I'm banned from that one too, probably.




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2cbcd1  No.1541[Reply]

It seems like sexual predators are overwhelemingly christian, am I the only one who sees this?

d3da50  No.1542

>>1541

I mean there are lots of Christians out there and some will be sexual predators.


6bc56e  No.1543

>>1541

The joke is that they're all kikes, very clever.


29da19  No.1573

Loaded question. Predators are not predators because they are christian.

They are christian because they can larp as wolves in sheep's clothing.

same with male feminists really.




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