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d178de  No.3958[Reply]

Hello everybody. I remember when /christian/ used to allow these threads, but now they don't anymore. Well, since this board seems to becoming the new Christian board on this wonderful website, I suppose we ought to have our first Christianity vs Islam debate thread. I sent an invitation over to /islam/. Debate anything concerning our respective faiths, just be civil. Attack the argument not the person arguing. Since this is being hosted on a Christian board, any attempts to proselytize from our Islamic friends are not acceptable. Debate.

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d178de  No.4111

>This is a paradox, not a contradiction

How is this a paradox? Have you read the Cappadocian Fathers? One ousia, three hypostases; three distinct existences within the divine Ousia, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It's not that hard to understand. The idea that the Trinity is somehow a paradox that is cannot be understood at all and we must just accept it by faith is just a meme.


40ffa4  No.4114

>>4111

I am using paradox in philosophical terms. The Trinity has classically been referred to as a paradox.


f3baf8  No.4119

>>4028

Funny Sunan Abu Dawud 3991 says:

Abu Dharr said: I was sitting behind the Apostle of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water.


0f44e6  No.4124

>>3958

I just don't see how this would be productive. I like watching actual apologists debate, because its moderated and the participants are identified and held responsible for their intellectual honesty by all those observing. Neither of those crucial aspects are present on an anonymous message board. I think that's why you won't find any debate-oriented boards; they are all themed according to the interests and identities of the userbase.


5bc97e  No.4230

Muhammad was a murderous thieving pedophile, and anything taught by such a "prophet" is worthless. That's all there is to it. You do not debate with evil.




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a069a5  No.22[Reply]

Every day they ban in the name of the lord.
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148145  No.4041

>>4036

Sowing disunity and being toxic. Absolutely warranted.


4531ba  No.4045

>>4041

Debatable, but if so there's obviously a double standard.


719226  No.4067

File: 90f771024bef445⋯.png (160.61 KB, 877x743, 877:743, 5-6-2019 christian ban.png)

Falseflagging from /leftypol/ on a /christian/ board? The asshurt and insinuations that one is attacking gay marriage, race-mixing, and gommunism for asking simple questions is also a nice indication before ban. What a bunch of queers.


880d26  No.4122

>>4067

Calvinism is as heretical as Islam and Catholicism. You know Jesus literally died the gay punishment? Gay is worthy of death. Deuteronomy says those that sin a sin worthy of death and are hung on a tree are cursed by God. Galatians says Jesus hung on a cross by God. If you want to call forgiveness of sins an X sympathizer, then God's an X sympathizer. Replace X with forgivable sins.


880d26  No.4123

>>4122

>cross by God.

hung on a tree and cursed by God*




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f0ac63  No.2779[Reply]

Most historians agree that there is no reason to believe that Jesus even existed, do you want to know why this is happening? Why it seems that the secular world is conspiring against Christ?

IT IS BECAUSE WE LET IT HAPPEN! WE CHOOSE TO BUILD A SECULAR KINGDOM INSTEAD OF BUILDING GOD'S KINGDOM.

We all want to work nice jobs and help build the infrastructure that is necessary for a secular society to function; quit building this earthly kingdom; build God's kingdom instead. Quit trying to work for money; store up treasures in heaven instead. Quit facilitating all the scientific research that supposedly disproves the bible. At one point the earth was probably a flat disk with a dome held up by pillars but that all changed when us humans decided to go out and look instead of trusting God.

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c79434  No.3830

>>3828

Here is the invidio link to the playlist, this should cover every "copy" since i've had people call out the image because of the ugly sources.

https://invidio.us/playlist?list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TVOYpPpjYhTUHXycJrY6P2I


c79434  No.3831

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>(1)

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04a86f  No.4038

>Anno Domini 2019

>There are still people who believe in Zeitgeist meme

Authors of that managed to both falsely accuse Christianity AND mutilate ancient pagan mythologies.


e1d816  No.4062

>>2779

>Most historians agree that there is no reason to believe that Jesus even existed

This is a myth. That faggot who runs History for Atheists does a pretty thorough demolishing of the ideas of the mythcists and he's an atheist who publicly rejoices when he convinces people to apostatize.


266c86  No.4121

>>2779

Atheism: skeptical of Christians but not anything else




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e4f14f  No.4064[Reply]

What does /christianity/ think of Westboro Baptist Church? In 1999ish I was much younger and thought they were "crazy evil." In 2019 after all the bizarre and sad clown world type shit going on…Fred Phelps and his rants seem more sane than the MSM trash you see on a daily basis. What gives?

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27ff8b  No.4068

>>4065

Hmm interesting. The only thing I don't agree with you on is the whole "be kind and your sworn enemies wont use every trick in the book against you!" type of fallacy-think. Cunts are cunts till the end, so why play with kid gloves or contrived "mercy?"


9b92b6  No.4071

>>4068

When did I say that?


dd2d5c  No.4081

didn't anonymoose hack them or something?


2c8c9f  No.4088

They're a family of lawyers who try to provoke people into assaulting them so they can sue them.


e63854  No.4120

>>4088

This. It's how they make money.




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7a1278  No.4000[Reply]

I'm curious, is there any correlation between MBTI types and faith, are certain types drawn more to certain denominations? I know I've seen that in general the chans have a lot of the rarer MBTI types, but I'm interested in seeing if this board attracts a different group than others. For me it's

>INTJ/ENTJ

>Baptist

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dad043  No.4002

>>4001

^This. It's basically the secular equivalent of an astrological sign. Not to mention that it tends to breed narcissism and navel-gazing.


126185  No.4005

>>4000

I'm INTP Catholic. I also believe some Christian Identity stuff if that's relevant.


51114e  No.4039

Enough with this MBTI stuff mates. Let's focus on bloodtypes and their correlation with behavior!


9a0c11  No.4042

I don't know what any of that means but that art looks hideous.


6e9fe6  No.4113

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>>4000

I'm ENFP Anglican, can relate to that pic. I'm also libertarian if that matters.




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5ae766  No.4046[Reply]

https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/ pizzagate exposed. People need to wake up ! i cant put images on this thread because there so many images and 8ch have limit photos uploads . i cant post in other platform because ban accounts so i post here to show the people

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d7bf97  No.4061

>>4060

Well the truth in context there is the gospel of Jesus, but I have no objection to you exposing pedophile Jews. Keep it up.

I only ask because threads here ought to be related to the board topic, and maybe you know a good deal about this topic and can summarize to us


5ae766  No.4069

>>4061

Hi all the pornhub,redtube etc have connection with pedophile here is the proof link:

<[Direct links to porn sites removed]

proof link : https://dcpizzagate.wordpress.com/ and video proof https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBPzGSc8IOo

Think why those people are not in jail ?why us and other countries allow this? why fbi,cia,nsa allow this ? think think hard?

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5ae766  No.4074

>>4061

For all people who think that are christians who watch porn please stop watching porn movies and please repent your sins follow GOD and JESUS CHRIST and read the Bible KJV

YOU KNOW THAT IS SIN TO WATCH PORN MOVIES LOOK WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD


654443  No.4075

>>4069

Did you have to post links to ACTUAL PORN SITES!?!?!?


fb763d  No.4112

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>>4074

I think I know you, were you on discord before?




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e7f1c1  No.3104[Reply]

Does this matter to Christians?

Acts 17:24

God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples made by human hands. 25Nor is He served by human hands, as if He needed anything, because He Himself gives all men life and breath and everything else.…

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cfeeeb  No.3390

>>3389

The Jews are not the covenant people of God, whom that text is about. The oblation described is Christian worship, made to cease for three and a half years by the beast in the tribulation of the Church.


2f420c  No.3394

>>3390

what are you talking about?

"The Jews are not the covenant people of God" - where are you getting this idea, I'm guessing you're into replacement theology

"The oblation described is Christian worship, made to cease for three and a half years by the beast in the tribulation of the Church." – why would the church be in the tribulation doing sacrifices lol. can you show me some scriptures? or are you just making up whatever interpretation you want


2f420c  No.3395

>>3390

Christians are in the tribulation and that the phrase " he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease" AACTUALLLY MEANS "stop playing worship music". get real…. the text means what it means. its simple hes talking about the Jews, and they have started doing sacrifices and oblations IN THE TEMPLE, then he stops that. it's beyond me how you can start to reach so far just to make it say what you want it to


cfeeeb  No.3399

>>3394

You must be new here. Welcome, dispensationalist fren, I encourage you to read scriptures about Christians and not Jews are Abraham's true sons

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians+3

God bless :)


21af0e  No.4072

>>3389

So am I reading Daniel 9:25-27 wrong or are you calling the Messiah the Antichrist?




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3c359c  No.3789[Reply]

It doesn't matter how many times i explain how Jews worships another God, or how they're not God's chosen ones, there is no shortage of ignorant opposing belief systems with their own ancient and false theosophy approved interpretations of Christianity.

The (modern) Jews did not believe in the Old Testament that is why after Christ's crucifixion happened those ancient "Jews" did not become christian, and modern Judaism is born from the Kabbalah and the Talmud, not the OT or NT.

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008fef  No.3923

>>3917

Isn't it God's promise to Abraham?


54eb42  No.3924

>>3923

Yes, but the timeframe isn't explicit


008fef  No.3925

>>3924

I don't see how that is Christ not fulfilling the OT?


01bceb  No.3928

>>3917

>>3924

It's called 1 AD because Christ came, not the other way around. There's no skirting this undeniable fact: the foundation of modern Judaism is the rejection of Christ.


593867  No.4070

>>3795

>The jews are a physical entity.

Matthew 3:9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.




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460124  No.4034[Reply]

….is it really so bad to skim through the Grand Inquisitor portion?

I love this book so far, and I'm aware that it has a reputation for inspiring atheist philosophrs, probably based on the story within a story, the Grand Inquisitor. I figured my faith is strong enough to withstand a monologue by a fictional atheist denouncing God, so I plunged ahead, but now that I'm about a half dozen pages in I'm finding it difficult because I think it's seriously interminable.

Dostoevsky was amazing, a man ahead of his time, perfectly able to depict the kind of whining badly catechized Christian breakaways are still doing to this day. Misunderstanding God, free will, the love of Christ, etc etc etc. It's all there, angst and all.

How badly will it diminish my experience if I just skim to the end where Alyosha tells Ivan to shut his blasphemous mouth?

[Or so I hope he will]



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f31a73  No.3879[Reply]

What does it mean when you want to die even in your dreams?

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6631ea  No.3980

>>3975

>I honestly don't believe that.

And there is your problem.

>>3976

>There's nothing that works in doing and not doing.

Because it's all works, what you're trying.

Jesus told us, that you are healed and saved by FAITH.

1. Open your Bible, First Book of Moses, choose a translation, which is close to the Textus Receptus.

2. Read Genesis chapter 1 to 11.

3. See and accept the truth in the Bible.

This is your first step. You need to get past this first or all the other stuff is moot.

4. Then go to Gospel of John and it the whole of it.

5. With the faith build by Genesis you should be able to believe that Jesus Christ is the Lord, did do miracles and healed people, died at the cross, resurrected three days later and is alive. It's not a story, it really happened.

6. Now submit your life to the Lord and promise Him to do His will.

Now at this stage, carefully listen to the Holy Ghost, what He tells you to do next. Then execute the Lords plan for you.


394d5e  No.3988

>>3980

>And there is your problem.

More correctly, I did believe that and I lost the faith. I did have the faith.

I've always been KJVO, and a believer in free grace rejecting lordship salvation. Hence why I said in light of works:

> There's nothing that works in doing and not doing.

>not doing


49733a  No.4019

>>3988

>More correctly, I did believe that and I lost the faith.

So you lost the faith and believe that listening to Christian music 24/7 somehow solves your problems?

Anon, the Father might have left you, but He forgives and takes you back, if you repent.

But you have to make a deliberate choice to put your life into His service. There is the actual issue. It's not about

>Please God, now that I'm feeling bad, please help me and give me free stuff!

It's about

>Dear Father, from now on I only listen to what YOU want, even when not feeling depressed.

By going along with what your Father wants, you are helping yourself, and then the Lord helps you. But nothing of this works without faith.


f31a73  No.4026

>>4019

>>Please God, now that I'm feeling bad, please help me and give me free stuff!

What a gross misrepresentation.


49733a  No.4030

>>4026

God has a will, you realize that?




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0c30ba  No.4006[Reply]

Does this mean he's watching me masturbate? Does he avert his eyes, or does he watch til finish? Is privacy too much to ask?

d30314  No.4016

Yes, he can see you masturbate. You're grieving the Holy Spirit. I think a lot of us struggle with it :(


0ecdb7  No.4020

>>4006

God doesn't "watch", like a human would. He is aware of anything His creation does, without having to explicitly watch it.

Though strictly speaking masturbation was never mentioned in the Bible. It's your porn usage, which is adultery and sin. Stop it and fapping falls to the wayside with it.


4ccf1e  No.4023

>>4006

Your projecting anthromorphisms onto God.




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49c3a7  No.3938[Reply]

(Pic unrelated)

You guys on here are so worried about being "anti-/christian/" and rebelling against their policies that one day this board is going to end up becoming the worst version of itself i.e. letting /christ/ tier gnostics in and go way too far on the other side of the spectrum. I support what you guys want to achieve (because the mods on /christian/ have become too authoritarian), but I also think you might be going about it the wrong way. Just a heads up. That's all. Peace.

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0ee04f  No.3987

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>>3985

The reliability of the translation of the other 66 books isn't impacted by the choice to not translate the apocrypha retard


512b69  No.4021

>>3938

gnostics, mormons and non-trinitarians are not a threat, even on /christ/ the gnostics were a minority, albeit a vocal one, heck not even JW's or Mormons post on /christ/ even when they're allowed to.


a90128  No.4022

>>3938

>/christianity/ will become /gnostic/ like how /christian/ is /catholic/.

That is what you're saying, which seems unfathomable. This place doesn't have a rule that only Nicenes and those we accept chalcedon are christian like /christian/ does. This board would literally have to make a rule saying that only christians are those who accept the demiurge is evil are considered so.

I think you are to eager to bring down the hammer on those who are perceived as heretics, why don't you do that in a debate instead? This is a forum after all.


0fd9d4  No.4025

>>4022

>and those we accept chalcedon

and those who accept chalcedon*


ec39fb  No.4117

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>>3953

<faithless pebble boi confirmed for messiah




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1a02e2  No.3377[Reply]

There were no atheists mentioned in the bible yet most Christians act like atheism is the biggest threat to Christianity(it's not). The biggest threat to Christianity is worldliness and there is an all-encompassing word for worldly people, pagans! All these supposed atheists are just pagans, people in bible times would call atheists pagans. Pagans are worldly people and worldly people are pagans meaning most supposed Christians are actually pagans.

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c611b6  No.3476

>>3377

>There were no atheists mentioned in the bible

I love when (((atheists))) who never read the bible lecture me what is or isn't in the bible:

Psalms 14:1 - (To the chief Musician, [A Psalm] of David.) The fool hath said in his heart, [There is] no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, [there is] none that doeth good.

Psalms 53:1 - (To the chief Musician upon Mahalath, Maschil, [A Psalm] of David.) The fool hath said in his heart, [There is] no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: [there is] none that doeth good.

Ephesians 4:18 - Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

1 Corinthians 2:14 - But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.

Colossians 2:8 - Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.


56df33  No.3510

>>3476

>I love when (((atheists))) who never read the bible lecture me what is or isn't in the bible

Reading God's word turned me Christian, they avoid it for reason.


39242d  No.3802

>>3377

>There were no atheists mentioned in the bible

That doesn't mean atheists aren't covered just because they're not explicitly named.

>yet most Christians act like atheism is the biggest threat to Christianity(it's not).

It's not the biggest threat, but it's a common subculture, among many other edgy anti-christian subcultures.

>The biggest threat to Christianity is worldliness and there is an all-encompassing word for worldly people, pagans! All these supposed atheists are just pagans, people in bible times would call atheists pagans. Pagans are worldly people and worldly people are pagans meaning most supposed Christians are actually pagans.

atheists =/= paganism, paganism has it's own set of beliefs, which includes worshiping the gods.


e4ab66  No.3888

>>3377

unbelievers go to hell


cca3bd  No.4014

>>3377

All the Christians killed under Marxism would beg to differ.




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bd80f7  No.3927[Reply]

I'd like to get your guy's opinion over this interetsing Christianity vs Atheism debate, i hope the corny thumbnail, half an hour length, or destiny's e-celeb status don't scare you away.

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727200  No.3994

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seems legit


a0d0b0  No.4008

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727200  No.4009

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a045de  No.4010

>>4009

Does that make anon a master baiter?


727200  No.4011

>>4010

yes and that is sinful




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f8acbb  No.3102[Reply]

https://youtu.be/J3buuoEV1qI

They shut down Steven Anderson's bank of America account right before he was doing a big soul winning thing before Easter.

This sermon is relevant again

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54a993  No.3673

Based


9421a9  No.3840

>banks

Should have joined a credit union.


c14552  No.3897

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>>3102

how can he follow teachings, if he's opposed to flat earth?

if you are not able to follow even the very first book, what about the rest.

jesus christ.


4e7447  No.3922

>>3897

>hurr durr

<blasphemes the name of Jesus

Opinion discarded.


c075b2  No.3949

>>3897

The bible is neither for nor against the flat earth, it can go either way.

https://www.gotquestions.org/flat-earth-Bible.html

>>3922

>hurr durr

Is this because he mentioned the flat earth? either way it's pretty uncalled for anon.




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