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389a37  No.1764[Reply]

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19ca72  No.2234

>>1768

Sounds familiar to what Agostino Taumaturgo talks about. Could the BO be studying from him works?

https://thavmapub.com/


19ca72  No.2235

>>2234

his*


6d90ce  No.2391

>>1766

this tbh


42f3dc  No.2481

>>1764

>I mean, seriously…

The mods are catholics and they delete all criticism of catholicism and ban anyone that posts it. I've been permanently banned there dozens of times for criticizing catholicism.


42f3dc  No.2483

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>>1768

>The BO communes with his "guardian angel", which is supposedly a completely orthodox practice in Catholicism

Catholicism is thinly veiled babylonian mysticism. Their "veneration of the saints" is just a way to disguise the reality that they are polytheists worshipping multiple gods. Take their worship of Mary and their "Madonna and child" symbolism. That's just blatant paganism that is seen is pagan religions throughout the world.

The Demons/gods of pagan religions are the nephilim. They are fallen angels that decided to rebel against God and have sex with women. Satanism isn't a real religion, it's just a doorway into Babylonian mysticism that makes it more accessible for a Christian audience. Christians that decide to worship satan find out along the way that there are multiple Gods in satanic religion because occultists worship all of the fallen angels, not just one of them. The Catholics disguise this worship of the host of heaven by giving the fallen angels the names of saints and people mentioned in the bible but they use symbolism that indicates the true identity of the "saints" that they worship, so that those that know the truth of their religion can communicate with each other.




6bd32a  No.2478[Reply]

Please help the Nebraska flood victims @ https://simplyservice.pro

eb5af9  No.2479




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2e271d  No.2123[Reply]

My dad is a free Mason. I'm thinking of becoming a freemason or catholic. Not sure if I can do both.

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c7d21f  No.2352

>>2130

Using old testament metaphor =/= judaism

The overwhelming majority of American freemasons are devout Christians. Also its a requirement to profess belief in trinitarian Christianity in the higher degrees of the York Rite. The Scottish Rite is the weird Albert Pike stuff, but even that has changed a lot over time.


c7d21f  No.2354

>>2134

>He was clear that they perform worship in their special room with a throne

Absolutely 100% clandestine masons, meaning not in good standing with their grand lodge (state level governing body, highest authority in blue lodge masonry).

>expressly relativist because they recognize any faith practice as valid

Good luck not getting blackballed when trying to join any American lodge if you state you are anything other than a Christian. One vote, you're done.


db24c8  No.2368

>>2123

You'll literally worship Satan there.


ae6251  No.2464

>>2123

The freemasons will allow members from any other religion. How else could they infiltrate and control those religions if they don't allow them to become members. Freemasonry is, simply put, a process of forming a moral inversion in the member. They twist your mind with "mysteries" until you become convinced that evil is good and vice versa.


ae6251  No.2465

>>2368

freemason is polytheistic. They worship the whole host of heaven.




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ef02b1  No.524[Reply]

If the pope is a bishop, who are his laity?

Who does the pope pastor?

6a082c  No.530

>>524

The Pope is the Bishop of Rome and the successor of St Peter. According to the Catholics, he is the supreme pontiff (essentially the bishop of all Christendom)

According to the Orthodox, in a scenario where the Church was united, the Bishop of Rome would be the first among equals, but no statements made by the Pope on matters of doctrine and moral law can be considered infallible unless confirmed by a unanimous council of all Church hierarchs.


a9311c  No.592

>>530

The Pope is that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God. According to the papists, he is the supreme pontiff (essentially God in the flesh).*

Fixed


13fd7c  No.2400

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25f5fa  No.2401

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>>524

>Who does the pope pastor?


2b8a7b  No.2450

>>524

His immediate flock are the romans and surrounding area like a normal bishop




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ab934b  No.2408[Reply]

Every culture in the world believes in spirits of some kind. The idea of being surrounded by omnipresent phantoms that could easily fuck with you or kill you is so horrifying that some people are just too timid to function normally with that knowledge. Same kind of feeling for divine judgement. So to cope timid brains switch to atheist mode where only what is immediately visible exists.

7951b9  No.2410

>>2408

Possibly. But I think it's a lot simpler than that. Most Atheists tend to boil down to one of two categories:

a) "Life and the world seem so random and meaningless and mad and nonsensical, that there couldn't possibly be a God."

or

b) "I want to do whatever I want! I don't want no God telling me what to do. So there is no God!

Or some combination or subtle variation of the aforementioned. (i.e. the "Religion is just a crutch for the weak-minded!" meme is basically just a subcategory of a) )


550054  No.2449

well the opposite is usually given as eternal torment in hell so i suppose that is why people react in the opposite direction and is probably a element of why atheism is a more of a thing in the west




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8791e7  No.2348[Reply]

For the longest time even to this day all currency in the United States has printed on it "In god we trust" many point to this as supposed evidence that the United States is a christian nation. The establishment clause of the first amendment in the United States Constitution forbids any superior treatment of any establishment of religion so by definition this god printed on the money cannot be the God of the bible. The bible says the love of money is the root of all evil(1 timothy 6:10) and the bible makes it very clear that covetousness is idolatry.

Who is the most popular god in the world; worshiped by nearly 6 billion? Money! Who really owns this world Satan! As Christians we must distinguish ourselves from the pagans and idolaters around us. The Israelites did so through laws that we might consider barbaric and arbitrary today but God(The one true god) doesen't change and he still calls Israel(The church(us)) to distinguish ourselves from the heathens of the world albeit in a different way.

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cb38a2  No.2376

Saint Tarrant begs to disagree.


fda02a  No.2383

>>2376

>muslim man kills women and children

</pol/: evil Muslims! Go Home!

>white man literally kills women and children

</pol/: what a saint! He is the sabiour the white race needs

The absolute state of /pol/ish hypocrites. BT is a coward and will burn in hell for his crimes.


bc4732  No.2384

>>2383

THIS


b29233  No.2386

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>>2383

>>2384

>call prots cucks and proceed to cuckout themselves

Ironic how you're accusing /pol/ of hypocrisy while being hypocrites yourselves.


d0b062  No.2396

>>2356

Tell that to Abraham.




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adf3e8  No.2022[Reply]

Why was he so based bros

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8a21c0  No.2041

>>2039

Agreed that catholics are wrong but there are dumber and more sinister groups in history


f6d70e  No.2305

>>2022

Papists need Mary and King Daddy to stand between them and Jesus, along with 2000 years of accumulated human error.


1e02a2  No.2342

>>2024

>Nestorianism

It's important to point out that Nestorius himself wasn't even wrong and the Catholics some 40 years later decided he was right, but they couldn't dare say that, so they wordgamed around the problem and claimed that they had a third path in the argument he was making where they literally invented new words that meant the same things he was saying and redefined other words to mean what he was saying.

Aside from the part that he said scripture and faith led to Jesus, not praying to some man on a seat. That would be found correct some ~1100 years later.


477b76  No.2343

>>2342

>It's important to point out that Nestorius himself wasn't even wrong and the Catholics some 40 years later decided he was right, but they couldn't dare say that, so they wordgamed around the problem and claimed that they had a third path in the argument he was making where they literally invented new words that meant the same things he was saying and redefined other words to mean what he was saying.

Could you elaborate? This is news to me.


2f655a  No.2381

>>2342

>It's important to point out that Nestorius himself wasn't even wrong and the Catholics some 40 years later decided he was right, but they couldn't dare say that, so they wordgamed around the problem and claimed that they had a third path in the argument he was making where they literally invented new words that meant the same things he was saying and redefined other words to mean what he was saying.

Not a single thing you just said is correct

>Aside from the part that he said scripture and faith led to Jesus, not praying to some man on a seat.

This was not disputed by Cyril




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9bd6e3  No.2131[Reply]

I was baptized at a young age. Maybe 5 or 6 years old. I am 33 now. My early aged baptizing was more like a "come on kids, you are gonna get baptized this Sunday whether you like it or not" sort of thing by my stepdad at the time (who was a preacher), more than it was a personal commitment of my own. But throughout the years of my early teenage-hood I did ask Christ into my heart. Maybe at 15 or 16? And when I asked, there was this supernatural warmth that came over me. I felt joy within me. It sounds cliche but it actually happened. I stole one of my stepdad's many bibles that he owned and read it almost daily.

Of course with commitment to Christ, you do have opposition. Things like porn and masturbation. Heavy video game playing. Cussing, and all the other worldly lusts of the flesh. Thankfully I am still a virgin. But I do wrestle with the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes even into today. The whole reason for this thread was to post this question: am I supposed to get re-baptized? Especially as a form of personal re-commitment in my adult age? Someone told me years ago that getting re-baptized would be like re-crucifying Christ. What does /christianity/ think about this?

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a81d87  No.2238

>>2151

>Um, no

<so your stance is bullshit, good to know

>telepathy route since your retarded

<didnt know people needed to be telepathic to read their own mind and heart, amazing

>Christ at its head

<FUCKING LOL

>not citing specific sources

<still didnt address Christ's own baptism

<still doesnt change the fact that they were baptised

Still, ascribing spiritual changes caused by physical actions IS sorcery; a sin and something forbidden.


919447  No.2251

>>2238

>bullshit

>your retarded

>FUCKING

I'll wait until you're an adult to reply


deb9f9  No.2296

>>2251

<as if you would have anyways.

Ascribing spiritual changes due IS sorcery; a sin and forbidden.


000000  No.2374

Re-baptism is not a sin. Baptism does not "save" you, and therefor re-baptism does not bring guilt on you. The thief on the cross was not baptized (Luke 23:43) and Jesus promised him salvation. Baptism is an outward demonstration of your commitment to Christ. It is showing that we have died to sin (buried by being submerged under water) and have been raised up in the new life of Christ (coming out of the water). Study Romans 7 and Galatians 2.

Galatians 2:19

19 For through the law I died to the law, so that I might live to God.

We practice baptism because Jesus told us to. It is the first thing that he commands us to do as Christians. We do it because we love him, want to obey him and we want to be a witness to others.

Ideally we should make the decision to be baptized for ourselves (not by our parents). That is why it is called the "believers baptism". If you were not part of that decision years ago, and you want to publicly let others know that you are committing your life to Christ, then go for it and be re-baptized. If you are not worried about it, then don't be baptized again. Either way will not effect your salvation.


e63719  No.2380

>>2374

Baptism isn't something men do of their own authority for their own enjoyment, it is done because God commanded it, only as God commanded it. And since baptism was ordained to represent the circumcision of the heart, we may only be baptized as many times as we have hearts to cleanse.




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de7247  No.1404[Reply]

Why don't you go to a top tier church, /christianity/?

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67a70f  No.2332

>>2330

On it, I would say I am close to Luther, although how I see faith is more closer to Kierkegaard, particularly how Abraham is described in Fear and Trembling. I say Luther because I think he got the best balance between foresensic and christus victor and his concept of faith has an existential feel to it.


3ba5db  No.2334

>>2332

Does it come by faith alone?


67a70f  No.2345

>>2334

Yes. But faith is the resignation to Christ and the enduring trust in God's promises. Faith extends to its expression and the convictions of the believer too. This part is probably where I part ways with Luther since faith comes before love and faith is to be quite different from its expression, although the expression may be rooted in it.


57165d  No.2347

>>2345

Ok, you are Protestant.


914852  No.2371

>>2347

Heh, perhaps but I am high church leaning




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4f1977  No.2205[Reply]

Came across this pamphlet and makes me wonder who is Jesus? What are your thoughts?

bddfbf  No.2207

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Every objection here is answered by the doctrine of the Trinity.

Jesus is man, and God. He is the only begotten if the father, and we become adopted as sons and daughters. Jesus is equal with the father, but a different person and so he talks and prays to the father. The verses of the Bible where we derive these positions are conveniently omitted, while the Bible is used as a source as if authoritative to the Muslim.

If the Bible is to be trusted, Jesus is God. There's no way around it. The Quran is untrustworthy for a host of reasons, but one of the most compelling ones is it's disunity with the old testament which Islam claims to view as scripture. If Jesus isn't divine, but the OT is still true, what can they do about Isaiah 9?


6a2747  No.2208

I love how they tried to use Matthew 15, when Jesus is talking about the Pharisees, and how their worship is in vain. That is sheer quotation out of context.


90e31f  No.2256

>>2205

So the Muslims are like the Scholastics in Catholicism in a way, both setting limits to what God can and cannot do according to human philosophy.


7815af  No.2341

It is interesting to know that Muslims believe in Jesus and they revere him.




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9bcbc1  No.2313[Reply]

+Adjutórium nostrum in nómine Dómini.

Qui fecit cælum et terram.

Confíteor Deo omnipoténti, beátæ Maríæ semper Vírgini, beáto Michaéli Archángelo, beáto Ìoánni Baptístæ, sanctis Apóstolis Petro et Páulo, ómnibus Sanctis, et vobis fratres: quia peccávi nimis cogitatióne, et òpere: percutit sibi pectus ter, dicens: mea culpa, mea culpa, mea máxima culpa. Ídeo precor beátam Maríam semper Vírginem, beátum Michaélem Archángelum, beátum Ìoánnem Baptístam, sanctos Apóstolos Petrum et Paulum, omnes Sanctos, et vos fratres, oráre pro me ad Dóminum Deum nostrum.

Misereátur tui omnípotens Deus, et, dimíssis peccátis tuis, perdúcat te vitam ætérnam.

Amen.

c857d1  No.2314

>Mariam semper virginem

>intercessory prayer from the dead saints

miss me with that heresy




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435e20  No.2003[Reply]

>Therefore be on your guard against the Jews and know that where they have their schools there is nothing but the Devil's nest in which self-praise, vanity, lies, blasphemy, disgracing God and man, are practiced in the bitterest and most poisonous way as the Devils do themselves. Wherever you see or hear a Jew teaching, do not think otherwise than that you are hearing a poisonous Basiliskus who with his face poisons and kills people. (Medieval legend.) Through God's wrath they have been delivered to believe that all of their boasting, vanity, lying to God, cursing all men, are right and a great service to God, something well becoming to such noble blood of the fathers and circumcised saints (no matter how mean they otherwise might know themselves to be in gross vices) which service they think they have rendered hereby.

>Look out for them!

>They brag and boast that they have had the land of Canaan, the city of Jerusalem and the temple from God. Although God has overthrown such boasting and vanity many times, especially through the king of Babylon who led them away and destroyed everything, like the King of Assyria had before led away and destroyed the entire Israel. Finally they were rooted up and devastated by the Romans, now almost 1400 years ago, that they might comprehend how God did not consider, nor will He regard country, city, temple, priesthood and principality, that He should consider them His own chosen people on that account; yet their iron neck (as Isaiah calls it) is not bowed, nor has their iron forehead become red with shame.

>They constantly remain stiff-necked, blinded, hardened, and immovable. Still hope that God will bring them home again and give everything back to them.

Is Luther right, that God ordained the destruction of Jerusalem and the diaspora of the Jews so that they would understand they don't have special status before Him?

JQ Thread

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89a9ae  No.2038

>Is Luther right, that God ordained the destruction of Jerusalem and the diaspora of the Jews so that they would understand they don't have special status before Him?

Is this affirmed in either covenant theology, dispensationalism, or both?


be76d5  No.2076

>>2038

Covenant theology and dispensationalism are hermeneutical frameworks, not perspectives on Jews


f8a4eb  No.2095

>>2076

don't each of them have implications about zion?


be76d5  No.2099

>>2095

Yes, but nothing so specific. There is nothing that would compel or preclude a covenant theologian or a dispensationalist from agreeing with Luther about that.


e055e7  No.2299

Luther also claimed that the Pope of his day was the Devil incarnate. Basically he hated anyone who didn't agree with him.




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a42d14  No.2026[Reply]

How many of you are hear because you were banned on 4cuckchan's /christian/?

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480297  No.2257

I've received about 15 permanent bans for various reasons. I beg forgiveness in the ban reply and it's lifted within 12 hours. They just like to hear people beg for mercy in their little kingdom. LARPing is fun.


28edca  No.2264

>>2257

>I beg forgiveness

That's pathetic


d30815  No.2289

I got banned for calling out their Mary worship


2561fb  No.2293

>>2026

I'm suprised they havn't filtered 'no censorship on >>>/christianity/ yet


480297  No.2294

>>2293

The Vols, even if they could add word filters, are too busy slamming the [B&D+] button on every post and the BO is completely absent outside of Discord.




737c34  No.2167[Reply]

((Some say, “It was the second person of the Trinity Who died.” That would be a mutation within the very being of God)), because when we look at the Trinity we say that the three are one in essence, and that though there are personal distinctions among the persons of the Godhead, those distinctions are not essential in the sense that they are differences in being. Death is something that would involve a change in one’s being.

We (should shrink in horror from the idea that God actually died on the cross. The atonement was made by the human nature of Christ). Somehow people tend to think that this lessens the dignity or the value of the substitutionary act, as if we were somehow implicitly denying the deity of Christ. God forbid. It’s the God-man Who dies, but death is something that is experienced only by the human nature, because the divine nature isn’t capable of experiencing death.

https://www.ligonier.org/blog/it-accurate-say-god-died-cross/

737c34  No.2168

The proof from Cyril of Alexandria:

For we believe in one God, Father almighty, maker of all things both visible and invisible, and in one Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Spirit; and following the professions of faith of the holy fathers that supplement this, we say that the Word begotten essentially from God the Father became as we are and took flesh and became man, that is, he took for himself a body from the holy Virgin and made it his own. For that is how he will truly be one Lord Jesus Christ, that is how we worship him as one, (not separating man and God), but believing that he is one and the same in his divinity and his humanity, that is to say, (simultaneously both God and man.)-Against Nestorius(pg.141)

For (the incarnate nature of the Word is immediately conceived of as one after the union).30 It is not unreasonable to see something similar in our own case too. For (a human being is truly one compounded of dissimilar elements), by which I mean soul and body. But it is necessary to note here that we say that the body united to God the Word is endowed with a rational soul. And it will also be useful to add the following: (the flesh, by the principle of its own nature, is different from the Word of God, and conversely the nature of the Word is essentially different from the flesh). Yet even though the elements just named are conceived of as different and separated into a dissimilarity of natures, (Christ is nevertheless conceived of as one from both, the divinity and humanity having come together in a true union, Against Nestorius in Russell's Cyril of Alexandria, pg.142)


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f565e1  No.2180

>>2173

Sta mad, Nestorian


da2210  No.2290

>>2167

fuq i remeber this thread on /christian/




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653a78  No.2244[Reply]

>be me

>trad Christian

>sick of seeing all these Thots in my old catholic parish

>sick of the pedophile clergy

>sick of latin pope

>begome Orthodox like everyone on 8chan tells me to

>feelsgood.exe

>1 year later

>still alone

>barely anyone in my parish

>all young women already have husbands

>all the bahbis' granddaughters are FAR too young for me

>tfw another year older and still no trad orthodox gf

>tfw papists on /christian/ are married and im not

>tfw I'm starting to regret coverting

Did I make a mistake? Someone give me redpills! Convince me not to go back to Rome!!

Help!

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c37f7d  No.2266

>>2249

Evangelical churches really do have wholesome women, and if you can get past the rock band style music (which is actually biblical, as seen in psalm 150) it's not bad at all.


287dd8  No.2267

>>2266

Or just go to an evangelical church that doesn't do rock band music, win-win. Sometimes there's both: a "traditional" and a "contemporary" service.


c37f7d  No.2272

>>2267

That's fair, I haven't been to a whole lot of evangelical churches and the few I have been to only had the contemporary worship so sometimes I forget that the traditional version exists.


b209a4  No.2286

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>>2249

Bants or not, still not helping and why would I apostatize to a heretical church just to find a wife? If anything I'd try to convert her away from the traditions of man.

and yes as far as I am concerned you are enablers of the Synagogue

>>2250

What I know is that Jesus set up the Orthodox Church for His flock to worship Him in. Maybe my error was I am too focused on finding a wife and not being alone. I'm just tired of feeling alone all the time.

>>2266

Maybe, but why do prots always have to make cringy music? Can't they just make it beautiful like in the East?


e16f30  No.2287

>>2286

What is the gospel?




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