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e99ade  No.4311[Reply]

Without giving too much detail, there's a low chance I will make it to May 2020. I don't know what to do.

My physical affairs are in order already, I don't have kids, I'm going to leave what I have to my parents

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469155  No.4388




Suicide is sin. Passive euthanasia is debatable on permissibility.

65ae00  No.4390


>everything I disagree with is (insert label)

469155  No.4394


Ok, let me substantiate myself. I'm presuming you're the same poster with a different id.

>Superstition - a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation.

What you just articulated is a belief in an afterlife that is not only absent from scripture, but counter to it. The Bible says that it is appointed once for man to die and after that comes judgment. Those found unworthy are cast into the lake of fire, those worthy go to paradise.

You also said that the dead have omniscience, and that people exist and are omniscient before conception, counter to the Bible's teaching that life begins at conception.

The basis you provided was "I hear", a classic example of superstition, a belief with many followers but nebulous origins. If you claimed authority from the book of Mormon or some other text you would be a pagan, but that didn't happen.

Are you satisfied?

5400db  No.4406


Solomon says we existed before our bodies.

>“Now I was a child of parts, and a good soul fell to my lot; Nay rather, being good, I came into a body undefiled.”

‭‭Wisdom‬ ‭8:19-20‬ ‭

Spirits having omniscience is a Catholic (and maybe Orthodox) belief. The Orthodox see heaven and hell as different conditions after death not places, which I agree with. I disagree with the assertion that having beliefs from multiple sources is superstition.

f3d64b  No.4407


Find me a Roman or eastern author who says "the penalty for suicide is your soul is eternally trapped on Earth, unable to rest"

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e91245  No.42[Reply]

Jesus might lose.
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54746d  No.1356


'But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea, which is moved and carried about by the wind.'

37882b  No.1365


gnosticism is backwards heresy you stupid faggot

7d9f7e  No.4315


when you find a god that takes the time out of their day to actually answer you prayers.

here is one of my many true storys about loki.

>Be me

>Be weeb

>Be retard

>Decide that i want a "lamia waifu" after watching monster musume.

>Ask Loki for "lamia waifu" with the expectation of doing some astral lewding and because i know loki delivers.

>Have lucid dream involving a reptilian naga covered head to tail with green scales.

>At the end of the dream she shape shifts in to a human female

>mfw Thanks to loki i now unironicly believe in reptilian shape shifters

>mfw Loki delivered.

Moral of the story even if Loki is an asshole at least he delivers unlike yhwh.


mfw Your heresy is heresy to you heresy just worship Sophia if you want to be Gnostic.

8f2206  No.4371

If Jesus lost or "might lose," where is the body? Why is the tomb still empty?

967a11  No.4372

you didnt

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0ab956  No.411[Reply]

sinless people go to heaven, e.g. aborted babies?

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10f9c1  No.589

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[btw BO pls disable r9k]

89bff2  No.4314

Probably not considering that most reincarnate.

91be4f  No.4316


At the least they go to Limbo (which is a 'part' of Hell).


Neoplatonists believe in a form of reincarnation tho

8efc2e  No.4320


>Within a sound theology it's inconceivable that God would not grant them mercy and allow them in his kingdom.

With a sound theology it's inconceivable that God would not grant mercy even to the worst sinner. The idea of a punishing God is an abhorrent pagan idea. The Christian God is love. (1 John 4:7)

Our sins (that is, our defects) make us incapable to inherit the Kingdom of God. Any sinner is adherent to useless earthly things. He has his passions. When he dies, the sinner loses everything he loves. He is no longer capable to satisfy his passions. Moreover, through the grace of God the sinner is able to see extremely clearly how bad the mistakes he has done are. The presence of God is torment for the sinner. So God sends the sinner away. This "punishment", however, is mercy, it is the best that can be done about the sinner.


>yes, aborted babies and children go to heaven

This is a wishful thinking. But the fact is that the Bible doesn't say what exactly is going to happen to such children. St. Gregory of Nazianzus says that such children won't inherit the Kingdom of God, they, however, won't be tormented either. St. Ambrose of Optina and St. Barsanuphius of Optina say about such children that they will be in the kingdom but they will be like blind, unable to see face of our Lord.

9af8f5  No.4367

Hm, maybe.

t. Calvinist

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772d71  No.4339[Reply]

Who are they?

Is this the whole Trinity in human form?

What are all the possibilities?

a4bdb7  No.4342

The party must have at least included God, since the same group is the one that decides to destroy Sodom.

That leaves these possibilities:

>The three persons of the trinity

>Pre-incarnate Jesus (christophany) and two angels

>God the Father (theophany) and two angels

>Two persons of the trinity and one angel (doubtful)

95e834  No.4357

John 1:18

No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

The only begotten is the revelation of God

The only begotten is Jesus

Abraham saw these men, so none of them were God the Father. At least one was Lord, so it was Jesus and two other heavenly beings.

c84c0e  No.4364

>Who are they?

>Is this the whole Trinity in human form?

>What are all the possibilities?

Going by >>4342 's and >>4357 's good post, considering the Holy Spirit never appears in some humanoid form that we know of in Scripture, and considering Jesus is usually the one who mediates between humans and the Trinity, probably Jesus and two angels. We see two angels go warn Lot and his family, so they were probably the ones with Jesus.

1cc9ed  No.4282[Reply]

Nihilist here. I don´t believe in God one bit and even if he would exist I still wouldn´t put my faith in him.

I have yet to find something that can truly challenge Nihilism instead of just avoiding it. Very interested in what you have to say.

Just try to give me something that cannot be rendered pointless by the question "why" and the lack of an answer to it.

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9244e9  No.4301


There's an entire book of the Bible dedicated to this: Ecclesiastes.

96a091  No.4302

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>Just try to give me something that cannot be rendered pointless by the question "why"

"Why" is a wonderful question.

Q.: Why do we live on a small Earth in a vast universe?

A.: In order to know that there is something greater than us.

Q.: Why can we so easily look at the sky but we can't reach it?

A.: To remind ourselves to be more diligent when we work to reach the heavens.

Q.: Why is our life so short?

A.: In order to know that there is something greater than this life.

Q.: Why do we meet financial loses?

A.: To remind ourselves the earthly wealth is transient, just like our earthly life, and that only in the heavens our treasures are safe, where neither moth nor rust consume, and where thieves do not break in and steal.

Q.: Why is there inequity in the society? Why are some people rich and others poor?

A.: To know that the earthly wealth is vanity.

Q.: Why do our bodies suffer from various illnesses?

A.: Because our souls are not healthy.

Q.: Why do we need to go to hospitals when we are seriously ill?

A.: To remind ourselves that our souls are seriously ill and only in the Church we can be cured.

60a9dc  No.4303


And from where did you derive your answers?

96a091  No.4307

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This isn't about derivation, anon! It's about what you choose: life or death, foolish senselessness or wise purposefulness. If you choose the life, you will see that my answers make perfect sense.

Since we are created in the image of God, we are free to choose whatever we want. We are free to choose that nothing is meaningful, everything is void, our life has no purpose, good and bad are fictitious, etc. I am sad about the people who make such a choice because they will be tormented by their bad choice for eternity.

Please, choose the wisdom, the good, the meaningful life! Follow the Christ and you "will not walk in the darkness but you will have the light of life." (John 8:12) Be reborn anew in order to become what you are meant to be.

e966e8  No.4323


I'm not the nihist, I'm a Christian. I was only asking because your questions and answers aren't all directly lifted from the Bible.

Platitudinous, superficial explanations to challenging topics can be unattractive to an Inquisitor in my experience

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8a851d  No.4317[Reply]

Never forget.

3dd86d  No.4322

Thanks, I won't forget

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962b07  No.164[Reply]

I'm not ashamed to tell you, I saw sexual dreams today and a couple days earlier. Both, were caused by the unclean spirits trying to destroy my life. These unclean spirits shall always try to attack you at night, when sleeping, when you are least aware and active. You must will yourself out of the dream that is against God's will for you, to not want it makes the unclean spirits unable to attack you in your dreams. Put on the whole armor of God if you are not born again, be born again. The enemy knows that I know too much, he's trying to get me any way he can. I put my trust in the name of Jesus and in the Holy Spirit to keep me safe from harm's way.

There is little time left, all those who say are Christians, are you really a Christian or are you still holding onto your unclean spirits? You do not need to have them anymore, praise the Lord for the amazing power he gave to man to battle the demonic forces when he gave his own life on the cross! Prayer and commands in the name of Jesus are what scare the demons away, never forget this, brothers and sisters.

And to those who are catholics and of any other religion that bases the chances of getting to heaven through works, your good deeds are filthy rags to God, he doesn't want them, he wants you to believe in his Son who died for your sins and so that you may get to heaven through Him for He is the only way, for others before him have been thieves and robbers.

962b07  No.199


Do you believe the world will end tomorrow, and this is why you seem so hysterical?

Do you beleive that demonic spirits have power over you, despite you being protected by the love of God? If so, then realize that you have been deceived.

The core of the faith is not the struggle between good and evil, but to resist sin done by our own initiative and to grow in a spiritual marriage with God. There are no spiritual scapegoats, only your own fault for falling to temptation. Seek God not out of fear of his wrath, but out of compassion of his love and you will be freed of you bonds.

Be calm, peace is a fruit of the spirit.


962b07  No.200


>There is little time left, all those who say are Christians, are you really a Christian or are you still holding onto your unclean spirits?

You seem to fear God's wrath or that he wont forgive you when you sin. You must realize that you are already justified to God through Christ, nothing more is needed, for it is a gift given by God to men. Theoretically you could sin more and Christ would give you more grace. God loves you, he is not a God of wrath.

This is why i find demonsim to be so caustic. Demonism deceives by putting the focus from God's Love and the struggle against sin and turns it into the focus of a cosmic battle between good and evil. But this is simply not the case. Demons have only the power to tempt you, or deceive you as they already have. They are not any more powerful that the water of a river though. They hae no power or freedom of action, they can only do things to you if God loosens their chains, and even then it is not so that God can punish you for being naughty, but so that you can grow in character and learn to have strengthened resolve and spirit.

I plead that you abandon the Good vs Evil dichotomy, it is a lie that removes the truth: that the struggle is in loving God, while resisting the temptation to follow our own earthly desires.

[spoiler]sometimes the truth is harder to believe than fiction, i hope and pray that you find your way to the lord, and may know of his love.[\spoiler]

39d163  No.4313

As someone who jerks off daily and commonly offers my sexual energy to succubi and other such spirits and has plenty of lewd dreams i can tell you that im doing just fine.

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5d1dc4  No.3473[Reply]

A thread dedicated to Baptist discussion and theology.

>The Gospel

>>1 Corinthians 15:1-4__

>"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

>>Romans 10:9-10__

>"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

>Baptist Confessions, and Statements

>London Baptist Confession of 1689 (Calvinist): http://www.ccel.org/ccel/anonymous/bcf.pdf

>Baptist Faith and Message (Arminian Inclusive): http://www.sbc.net/bfm2000/bfm2000.asp

>Notable Modern Baptist Teachers

>Albert Mohler: https://albertmohler.com/

>James White: https://www.youtube.com/user/AominOrg

>John Piper: https://www.desiringgod.org/

>Leighton Flowers: https://www.youtube.com/user/MrLeightonFlowers

>Robert Truelove: https://www.youtube.com/chaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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29406b  No.4258


I feel ya. I think a lot of anons here can relate to falling into the pit of pornography and the kinks that can come from spiraling down that rabbit hole.

If you're not already on NoFap, get on that. Pray to our Lord Jesus Christ with all sincerity, and think about supplementing your struggle by joining a 12 step program like SAA (Sex Addicts Anonymous) or the aforementioned SLAA >>4157 . And don't beat yourself up too hard when you slip up, it'll make things worse. Get back up, repent, and try again. There was a time I couldn't go 5 days without cracking. Now I'm on my 44th day thanks to Jesus Christ. Weird fetishes are supposed to start disappearing as your brain begins to heal after about the 90 day mark. But remember: as with any addiction, take it one day at a time.

eda7bf  No.4265

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


The emotion of love is not addictive. Stop trying to classify every action against one's better judgement as addiction.

Also, don't go to a 12 step program everyone

29406b  No.4289


>The emotion of love is not addictive. Stop trying to classify every action against one's better judgement as addiction.

Not every sin is an addiction, but saying that compulsively seeking fulfillment in romantic relationships/sex cannot be addictive is naive and ignorant.

>Also, don't go to a 12 step program everyone

Skimmed the video a bit. I agree that a totally Christian program for handling sex addiction is best…if one can find it. That's the rub. If. As far as I know, in my area, there is no purely Christian equivalent to something like SAA.

The closest thing I can find is another 12 step program called "Sexaholics Anonymous", which is the only 12 step program to have a distinctively Christian definition for sobriety:

>"In defining sobriety, we do not speak for those outside Sexaholics Anonymous. We can only speak for ourselves. Thus, for the married sexaholic, sexual sobriety means having no form of sex with self or with persons other than the spouse. For the unmarried sexaholic, sexual sobriety means freedom from sex of any kind. And for all of us, single and married alike, sexual sobriety also includes progressive victory over lust".


If there was one of these in my area, I would go to that instead, but SAA is what I have to work with, so I'm working that. Even the video you posted seems to only tackle drug and alcohol addiction, and subsequently AA. Christian-wise, all I've found online are either Christian programs that are in another state or half-way across the country, or are phone based and cost money that I don't have, and many others may not: https://www.blazinggrace.org/mens-sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

29406b  No.4293


Here's another example:


But once again, I don't live in Minnesota, and I don't have $65 per group session. Are you starting to get the picture yet? This is an area that Christianity as a whole needs to catch up on in terms of providing help and resources.

29406b  No.4296


Just to drive the point home further:


>Financing: In addition to working with most insurance carriers we have other financing options available. We are able to assist most people to get the care they need. There are payment options available and we will work with you.

Here's another program that is located far away, and has it's own at home program for those who can't make it. The cost? $800…


And another Christian resource that recommends the 12 steps:


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b076f6  No.3905[Reply]

This board is dead as fuck

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d3470e  No.3931

Bro this board is in the top 30, its probably alive as ever.

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1b64af  No.4288

How old is the board? I just recently saw it in the popular board-list.

8ecc64  No.4294

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561364  No.3603[Reply]

Say something nice.

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e5b180  No.4260


why would that be a good thing

4b05bd  No.4261

The good Muslims I've met don't agree with what Islam allows, so I don't see why they don't convert to Christianity?

Luckily more and more Muslims are converting than ever before in history, so hopefully this pattern continues and amplifies.

Right now Asia is also becoming Christian, people are waking up to the truth.

002254  No.4273


It's a divinely sanctioned loophole. While christians struggle with nofap and adultery stuff muslims just marry a whore for like an hour, do their thing, get divorced and their god doesn't mind at all.

a965b9  No.4280


Their "God" is Satan, of course He doesn't mind sodomy.

002254  No.4281


I know that and they know that but this is the "say something nice about their satanic cult" thread and this was the only thing that came to mind.

000000  No.4203[Reply]

And I don't like it. Have you guys ever noticed how in some churches people don't really do anything anymore other than show up for church and class and then that's it? That's like 90%+ of the churches right now.

I'm getting tired of this. I don't feel anything anymore when visiting church, and people just disappoint in the purposeful sheepishness of their ways. This has directly affected my behavior, as I have begun to do the same things (such as going with the flow instead of being outspoken or asking difficult questions), and it is rather frustrating. On top of this there is little to no interaction with people outside the church anymore. Why is it that people who claim to be a part of a fellowship don't really keep in contact, hang out, or do anything together outside of church? The church has taken a sterile and 'hands-off' approach, which is mildly disturbing.

There needs to be a fine balance between action and prayer.

It's like the church itself is a zombie bumbling around with little direction other than the steering of the pastor and elders that act as the brain.

You will hear little to no talk about the gays, human rights, politics, laws, the knowledge of the bible, or even Apologetics for that matter…

I haven't had a decent conversation with someone about any of these topics without somehow ruining the mood due to its connotations. It's almost as if people are afraid to speak their minds… And rarely, if ever, have a conversation involving these things that we should be extremely concerned about for the church, since it has already dramatically impacted and damaged many denominations, and ruined countless believers lives.

Do u anons have a community where you feel connected? Even having any resemblance of a good discussion is far fetched even online anymore.

481532  No.4204

My church has none of those problems you listed. There is a small group for everyone. The preacher works through the Bible and teaches on every topic as it arises in scripture. At the end of services, he will on occasion bring our attention to a political situation and ask for prayer (abortion, religious liberty, etc)

All medium sized evangelical (non denom and Southern Baptist) churches I've praticipated in are healthy just like this.

964a49  No.4209


From my somewhat limited perspective, I can totally back up that evangelical churches are really good for having a community feel to them. My gf goes to a southern Baptist church and I've been there with her a few times, everyone is super friendly and just genuinely cares about people. Her parents go to some other evangelical type of church and her dad is pretty much the epitome of a Christian man. He keeps his family in line, has a men's group that meets weekly, him and his wife teach Sunday school classes, it's something I never saw as I was growing up catholic. I think that's the one downfall of the catholic church is that it's really easy to attract cultural catholics who want to feel like a part of something bigger without actually doing much on their own, especially with cradle catholics.

728949  No.4277

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Be the change you want to see brother.

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28bc44  No.4132[Reply]

>tfw the world is so degenerate and life overall is so miserable I want Revelation to happen already.

How did the world get to the point where I look forward to what is supposed to be a future massacre of people like me? Is it bad that I feel this way?

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f520be  No.4137

Well, we're SUPPOSED to wasn't it, aren't we?


28bc44  No.4150


It would just speed me up to heaven.

767684  No.4151

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Dangerously close to apocalyptic accelerationalism. Christians are commanded to preserve the old ways, not encourage them to bring the end of the world just because Jesus will show up. Keep in mind that Jesus will arrive after a lot have died.

28bc44  No.4272


I see. I just see all the degeneracy in the world and it bothers me. It makes life a misery.

677159  No.4274

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People who posted posts like yours also enjoyed this. Would you like more recommendations in the future?

6ebed3  No.2944[Reply]

Is it me or is it that Baptists just have no literature that is deep or engaging


>Lord of the Rings

>GK Cherlseton

>Thomas Moore


>CS Lewis

>John Donne

>William Shakespeare




>Ruldoph Bultmann



>Abraham Kuyper

>TF Torrance



So where are the Evangelical counterparts to these?

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34df68  No.3012



Gonna link to these in the Protestant General.

7c2763  No.3051

I like everybody else is called by their name but Tolkien is the Lord of the Rings

34df68  No.3064

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>Did not catch that at first.

>.gif related.

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cd1095  No.4220[Reply]

Did the divine person Jesus suffer? No. Because God cannot suffer

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a87aea  No.4228

Why wouldn't God be able to suffer? that would imply that he doesn't feel anything.

b9c8bb  No.4244


>the divine person Jesus

Christ is true God and true man. As true man he has all human abilities, in particular the ability to suffer or the ability to die. His divine nature, however, remained void of suffering and immortal.

Christ is compound of divinity and humanity, but he is still one Christ. Therefore, we can say that the Word of God itself has suffered in the flesh. We don't say, however, that his divinity has suffered in the flesh or that God has suffered through the flesh. We can say that the second person of the Trinity, the Word of God, has suffered, but we can not say his divinity has suffered.

a5daf3  No.4245


>Did the divine person Jesus suffer?

Yes, in His human nature


He isn't wrong, it's heresy to think God would be subject to something postlapsarian and creaturely like suffering, but Christ did not suffer in His divine nature.

ad5b92  No.4248


Hmmm… so you're trying to say that He lacked the most vital fruit of the Spirit, i.e., long suffering? Derp.

2eeb67  No.4250


I doubt there would be an earth otherwise.

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2e3222  No.3681[Reply]


White Americans really went full retard back in the trans Atlantic slave era. I never knew this existed until today. What was that bit in the back of the book of Revelations about adding and omitting verses?

994b6d  No.3697

A tiny proportion of antebellum Americans were slaveholders and they were not exclusively white.

Yes, that's retarded and unchristian

e26975  No.4241


People twist and delete scripture to justify their own desires.

In other news fire is hot.

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