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0fe6be  No.4073[Reply]

Are these people Russian "orthodox"?

Can someone explain what's going on here?

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2c1f40  No.4164

https://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.iv.iv.xvii.html

Chapter XVII.—The Christians are refused Polycarp’s body.

But when the adversary of the race of the righteous, the envious, malicious, and wicked one, perceived the impressive463 nature of his martyrdom, and [considered] the blameless life he had led from the beginning, and how he was now crowned with the wreath of immortality, having beyond dispute received his reward, he did his utmost that not the least memorial of him should be taken away by us, although many desired to do this, and to become possessors464 of his holy flesh. For this end he suggested it to Nicetes, the father of Herod and brother of Alce, to go and entreat the governor not to give up his body to be buried, “lest,” said he, “forsaking Him 43that was crucified, they begin to worship this one.” This he said at the suggestion and urgent persuasion of the Jews, who also watched us, as we sought to take him out of the fire, being ignorant of this, that it is neither possible for us ever to forsake Christ, who suffered for the salvation of such as shall be saved throughout the whole world (the blameless one for sinners465), nor to worship any other. For Him indeed, as being the Son of God, we adore; but the martyrs, as disciples and followers of the Lord, we worthily love on account of their extraordinary466affection towards their own King and Master, of whom may we also be made companions467 and fellow-disciples!


efec46  No.4166

>>4164

What's the connection here


2c1f40  No.4168

>>4166

Early Christians were trying to "possess" a dead martyr's corpse and it is not just for burial either because of the same word for "possess" also means "have fellowship with". That idolatrous practice dates way earlier than you think.


d43f09  No.4217

>>4168

>That idolatrous practice dates way earlier than you think.

how do protes explain the occurances in the bible were miracles are worked through 'relics'?

>God did extraordinary miracles through Paul, so that when the handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were brought to the sick, their diseases left them, and the evil spirits came out of them. (Acts 19:12)

I could cite some more similar passages.


886a71  No.4456

This is some weird necromancy shit.




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2f3be1  No.3475[Reply]

Should Christians say the N word?

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4d0898  No.3504

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>>3475

Yes because it is written that black jesus gave all of his followers the nword pass


586e55  No.3565

>>3475

>Should Christians say the N word?

Morally neutral. Not a good or an evil.

There is nothing intrinsically spiteful towards blacks in the word nigger. It means black.

It's wise to abstain given the controversy it causes, but it's also valuable to resist Marxist redefinition of history.


4f76fc  No.4446

Can I say nigger here?


bbd11c  No.4448

>>4446

Nobody is going to stop you


fdd855  No.4452

nigger

nigger

nigger

nigger

nigger!

100% Nigger!

my dix is bigger!




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6b7a19  No.4102[Reply]

Abortions banned in Georgia after a heartbeat can be detected.

Heartbeats can be detected at 5 weeks:

https://www.babycenter.com/404_when-can-i-hear-my-babys-heartbeat_10349811.bc

Baby murder set to plummet.

Praise God!

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b63fdd  No.4215

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>>4102

This is great. I pray that the rest of the republic follows suit.

This also reminded me that Texas tried to pass a bill that would warrant the death penalty for women and doctors for preforming abortions.


a80d1d  No.4218

No need to worry about abortion when having sex with a dead cat.


3eaa23  No.4291

>>4153

It'd make their evil very transparent, which is probably why they haven't legalized this yet. It'd be plain infanticide. I mean, late term abortion is essentially the same thing, but normies and evil women are able to pretend that it isn't childmurder since it's going on inside the woman.


3eaa23  No.4424

As good as the news are, it's sad to see how white women are responding to this. When they're not lying and claiming that the new law means that any woman that has a miscarriage will be jailed or that all abortions are banned, they're responding with hysterics. It's apparently essential to these people to be able to kill babies with heartbeats inside them.


5ccba4  No.4437

>>4424

I don't think most women are super into murdering their unborn children (though I'm sure some exist), it's more like they want to live the maximum slut lifestyle so heavily promoted by (((them))) and the notion that actions have consequences (sex -> pregnancy), being women, scares the crap out of them.




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764d2c  No.3340[Reply]

"Scripture is infallible but only the passages I like"

How can you keep doing this even though you fully know you are not receiving the Full Word of the Lord? How can you justify it to yourself? Even more how can you justify it to God?

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9d01c3  No.4411

>>4402

http://www.pravoslavieto.com/docs/eng/Orthodox_Catechism_of_Philaret.htm

31. How many are the books of the Old Testament?

St. Cyril of Jerusalem, St. Athanasius the Great, and St. John Damascene reckon them at twenty-two, agreeing therein with the Jews, who so reckon them in the original Hebrew tongue. (Athanas. Ep. xxxix. De Test.; J. Damasc. Theol. lib. iv. c. 17.)

32. Why should we attend to the reckoning of the Hebrews?

Because, as the Apostle Paul says, unto them were committed the oracles of God; and the sacred books of the Old Testament have been received from the Hebrew Church of that Testament by the Christian Church of the New. Rom. iii. 2.

33. How do St. Cyril and St. Athanasius enumerate the books of the Old Testament?

As follows: 1, The book of Genesis; 2, Exodus; 3, Leviticus; 4, the book of Numbers; 5, Deuteronomy; 6, the book of Jesus the son of Nun; 7, the book of Judges, and with it, as an appendix, the book of Ruth; 8, the first and second books of Kings, as two parts of one book; 9, the third and fourth books of Kings; 10, the first and second books of Paralipomena; 11, the first book of Esdras, and the second, or, as it is entitled in Greek, the book of Nehemiah; 12, the book of Esther; 13, the book of Job; 14, the Psalms; 15, the Proverbs of Solomon; 16, Ecclesiastes, also by Solomon; 17, the Song of Songs, also by Solomon; 18, the book of the Prophet Isaiah; 19, of Jeremiah; 20, of Ezekiel; 21, of Daniel; 22, of the Twelve Prophets.

34. Why is there no notice taken in this enumeration of the books of the Old Testament of the book of the Wisdom of the son of Sirach, and of certain others?

Because they do not exist in the Hebrew.

35. How are we to regard these last-named books?Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


6b9563  No.4412

>>4411

Following what John Meade says, there is literally nothing in here that says the deuterocanon arent Scripture. It just means they are not canonical or are secondary to the main canon. All the cathechism does is follow Patristic style of listing the canonical books without destroying the Inspired status of the deuterocanon outside.

For this to work, Meade's thesis must be dismantled. You havent done this. Second, where are the distinction between apocrypha so called and Canon Scripture in the citations of the fathers? None! In fact throughout here, you and Protestants fail to give any adequate explanation for this. The closest is just unwarrented conjecture that isnt proven, which proceeds to claim my description clearly based on evidence of "conjecture" despite not presenting anything to dismantle my claim.

You, being a crypto Protestant should just be honest and abandon tradition. Stop praying to saints. Stop believing in synergism. Stop your eucharist. Stop praying for the dead. Only then you join the Protestants. I bet you hate venerating icons and saints, like a crypto Prot


9d01c3  No.4413

>>4412

>John Meade

You write a lot about John Meade but I know nothing about him so I can't understand you well. Can you recommend some reading about him or by him?

>where are the distinction between apocrypha so called and Canon Scripture in the citations of the fathers? None! In fact throughout here, you and Protestants fail to give any adequate explanation for this.

The Fathers have been taught by their spiritual Fathers that books like Sirach or Wisdom of Solomon are fully Biblical books of the Old Testament. Why shouldn't they cite them? These books have always been integral part of the Orthodox bibles. But I've already written that "authoritative" is not the same as "inspired". "Authoritative"="acknowledged as right by the Church". For example if the Fathers refer to the canons of various councils as authoritative, does this mean that these decisions are inspired biblical texts? On the other hand, most Protestants do not acknowledge that the Holy Spirit can guide the Church to make authoritative decisions, so it is only logical that they don't use as much the deuterocanonical books.

But since you are looking for a distinction in the citations of the inspired and the non inspired books by the Fathers, I can give you such a distinction. The inspired Biblical books of the Old Testament often have a mysterious spiritual meaning. For example apostle Paul says that that Agar/Ishmael and Jerusalem/Isaac are foreshadows of the Old Israel (slaves under the law) and the New Israel (sons under the grace). Or, that the going through the sea during the Exodus is a foreshadow of the baptism and the manna is a foreshadow of the Eucharist. The Fathers also speak about this mysterious meaning. For example Joshua is a foreshadow of Jesus (in Hebrew Joshua and Jesus are two forms of the same name and in Greek the names are identical), crossing the Jordan river is the baptism, the extermination of the seven tribes in Canaan is the extermination of seven of the eight passions (the eighth being Egypt, the gluttony).

On the other hand, the non inspired Biblical books do Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


ffb7dd  No.4414

>>4413

Just look >>4379 where I linked to his blogpost where he explains Patristic Canon theory. That is literally what I had been arguing for all this time.

When you said the Fathers were taught to take this as biblical, you are half right. You are half wrong when you deduce from this that it doesnt mean Inspired. Had you said of lower authority without denying Inspired status, I will let it go as I literally have zero problem with that at all. But you say they arent inspired. That's my issue.

Ok so you say "mysterious" meaning as a criterion for distinguishing Inspired Canon from non inspired Deuterocanon. That could easily be seen as lower Inspired status for the deuterocanon in the first place. This makes sense when they arent exegeted that way and yet are still treated in the same manner of sacred writing. Otherwise we are left with confusion. Worse still we have one key element of OT patristic exegesis for Baruch 3:12 in Athanasius, the presence of the Logos speaking or in the text, as Reformed Protestant scholar Hans Boersma notes in his book about sacramental exegesis. But ok, Baruch is seen as part of Jeremiah so let's use another example, Cyril does similar, paralleling Elias and Christ with Maccabees. John Damascus does similar in using Baruch to prophecize Christ!

A key element of Patristic exegesis of the Bible is also mimesis of Biblical figures and Gregory Nanzanzius does this and apart from the Canonical books, he also quotes Sirach in doing his mimesis. Jerome also. It is all Biblical figures plus Judith he asks one lady to imitate.

So no, I dont buy your argument here, crypto Prot


9d01c3  No.4436

>>4414

>Just look >>4379 where I linked to his blogpost where he explains Patristic Canon theory.

Thank you.

>>4412

>For this to work, Meade's thesis must be dismantled. You haven't done this.

I don't understand. As far as I can tell his thesis is not different than mine. Meade says that

>we may need to consider the probability that an ancient’s canon list does not include all the books which he considered to be Scripture and the ancient’s scope of scriptural books is actually wider than his canon list.

But this is exactly what I say. Only I use the word "Bible" instead of "Scripture" because "Scripture" is ambiguous (there is no such word in Greek or Latin; or rather there is but it means simply "writings"). There is a fixed canon list of books – the list of the inspired books (Meade says nothing about inspiration). However, the Bible (or the Scripture, if you want), is not limited only to the books of the canon list.

>>4414

>That could easily be seen as lower Inspired status for the deuterocanon in the first place.

There are different theories about what exactly "inspired book" means. When I say "inspired book" I mean a book where God and human author unite in such a way that God is the author proper of the whole book and the human author also is the author proper of the whole book. (Such union of God and man may seem absurd, but Christ proves that this is possible – he is fully God, he is fully man and he is still one.) This notion of inspiration does not allow for higher and lower statuses (this would be a Biblical Arianism).

On the other hand, maybe you have in mind some different notion of inspiration. For example Post too long. Click here to view the full text.




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906076  No.3705[Reply]

Ok fellas. Got banned from /christian/ for no reason, so please answer my question. No, this is not bait, and yes, I probably need to lurk more. So please don’t ban me.

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7b3073  No.4422

>>4418

Just come to the South bro

Assuming you're not just a shill


b519cb  No.4425

>>4422

>come to the South to get away from slutty women

You've never been to the South, have you …


8bfa6a  No.4427

Should be promoted. We need more poop colored people since poop is low key sexy.


7b3073  No.4428

>>4425

I am a native


7fea3e  No.4432

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>>4422

>shill

Why would any group of individual bother to shill asian women?




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dafa56  No.4383[Reply]

Say you're a government worker and you witness a moral injustice related to your job. How severe does it have to be before you have a Christian moral obligation to retaliate, maybe at the risk of your own job? In the event that what you're witnessing is legal.

Should a county clerk refuse to authorize state sponsored fag marriage?

Should a water manager refuse to give utilities to an abortion facility?

Pic only vaguely related

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bdd35a  No.4409

>>4400

Based


d296c3  No.4416

>Should a county clerk refuse to authorize state sponsored fag marriage?

I'd say there are two parts to a marriage: the legal contract and the actual marriage. The so-called "gay marriage" is just a legal procedure, not actual marriage. It's no different than any other contract. Now, it should not be called marriage, just like civil marriage should not be called marriage. That's attempt against religion by certain groups who control governments. But fags should be able to sign whatever contracts they like.

>Should a water manager refuse to give utilities to an abortion facility?

This is a trickier one. Gay unions do not harm others, but in this case the government is facilitating the means to do something terrible. The thing is, if you oppose it and get removed from your post for doing so, they'll replace you with someone who'll be quite happy to comply. Should you just obey so you can stay in a post where you can do good? Or should you stand for what is right, even if in practice it won't change anything? I don't know.


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>>4383

>Should a county clerk refuse to authorize state sponsored fag marriage?

It's been done. Didn't change a damn thing.


bdd35a  No.4421

>>4419

Sometimes you can act in civil disobedience even though you know the action will still go through, it's just a question of your personal moral involvement.


d9c6d4  No.4431

>>4416

For me the second question seems more clear. If you are a seller of weapons and a customer comes and he has the legal rights to buy a weapon from you but you know that he surely is going to use it for murder, should you sell him a weapon? I'd say, you shouldn't, or else you become party to a murder. You are not allowed to wash your hands and say like Pilate "I am innocent of the blood of this righteous man. You see to it." (Matthew 27:24)

For me the first question is trickier because, as you've written, this is a legal contract, not really a marriage. But on the other hand, you leave wrong impression and the Christians are not permitted to give bad message to the society.




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e99ade  No.4311[Reply]

Without giving too much detail, there's a low chance I will make it to May 2020. I don't know what to do.

My physical affairs are in order already, I don't have kids, I'm going to leave what I have to my parents

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469155  No.4388

>>4373

Superstition

>>4369

Suicide is sin. Passive euthanasia is debatable on permissibility.


65ae00  No.4390

>>4388

>everything I disagree with is (insert label)


469155  No.4394

>>4390

Ok, let me substantiate myself. I'm presuming you're the same poster with a different id.

>Superstition - a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation.

What you just articulated is a belief in an afterlife that is not only absent from scripture, but counter to it. The Bible says that it is appointed once for man to die and after that comes judgment. Those found unworthy are cast into the lake of fire, those worthy go to paradise.

You also said that the dead have omniscience, and that people exist and are omniscient before conception, counter to the Bible's teaching that life begins at conception.

The basis you provided was "I hear", a classic example of superstition, a belief with many followers but nebulous origins. If you claimed authority from the book of Mormon or some other text you would be a pagan, but that didn't happen.

Are you satisfied?


5400db  No.4406

>>4394

Solomon says we existed before our bodies.

>“Now I was a child of parts, and a good soul fell to my lot; Nay rather, being good, I came into a body undefiled.”

‭‭Wisdom‬ ‭8:19-20‬ ‭

Spirits having omniscience is a Catholic (and maybe Orthodox) belief. The Orthodox see heaven and hell as different conditions after death not places, which I agree with. I disagree with the assertion that having beliefs from multiple sources is superstition.


f3d64b  No.4407

>>4406

Find me a Roman or eastern author who says "the penalty for suicide is your soul is eternally trapped on Earth, unable to rest"




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e91245  No.42[Reply]

Jesus might lose.
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54746d  No.1356

>>182

'But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea, which is moved and carried about by the wind.'


37882b  No.1365

>>182

gnosticism is backwards heresy you stupid faggot


7d9f7e  No.4315

>>42

when you find a god that takes the time out of their day to actually answer you prayers.

here is one of my many true storys about loki.

>Be me

>Be weeb

>Be retard

>Decide that i want a "lamia waifu" after watching monster musume.

>Ask Loki for "lamia waifu" with the expectation of doing some astral lewding and because i know loki delivers.

>Have lucid dream involving a reptilian naga covered head to tail with green scales.

>At the end of the dream she shape shifts in to a human female

>mfw Thanks to loki i now unironicly believe in reptilian shape shifters

>mfw Loki delivered.

Moral of the story even if Loki is an asshole at least he delivers unlike yhwh.

>>182

mfw Your heresy is heresy to you heresy just worship Sophia if you want to be Gnostic.


8f2206  No.4371

If Jesus lost or "might lose," where is the body? Why is the tomb still empty?


967a11  No.4372

you didnt




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0ab956  No.411[Reply]

sinless people go to heaven, e.g. aborted babies?

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>>546

[btw BO pls disable r9k]


89bff2  No.4314

Probably not considering that most reincarnate.


91be4f  No.4316

>>411

At the least they go to Limbo (which is a 'part' of Hell).

>>546

Neoplatonists believe in a form of reincarnation tho


8efc2e  No.4320

>>413

>Within a sound theology it's inconceivable that God would not grant them mercy and allow them in his kingdom.

With a sound theology it's inconceivable that God would not grant mercy even to the worst sinner. The idea of a punishing God is an abhorrent pagan idea. The Christian God is love. (1 John 4:7)

Our sins (that is, our defects) make us incapable to inherit the Kingdom of God. Any sinner is adherent to useless earthly things. He has his passions. When he dies, the sinner loses everything he loves. He is no longer capable to satisfy his passions. Moreover, through the grace of God the sinner is able to see extremely clearly how bad the mistakes he has done are. The presence of God is torment for the sinner. So God sends the sinner away. This "punishment", however, is mercy, it is the best that can be done about the sinner.

>>412

>yes, aborted babies and children go to heaven

This is a wishful thinking. But the fact is that the Bible doesn't say what exactly is going to happen to such children. St. Gregory of Nazianzus says that such children won't inherit the Kingdom of God, they, however, won't be tormented either. St. Ambrose of Optina and St. Barsanuphius of Optina say about such children that they will be in the kingdom but they will be like blind, unable to see face of our Lord.


9af8f5  No.4367

Hm, maybe.

t. Calvinist




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772d71  No.4339[Reply]

Who are they?

Is this the whole Trinity in human form?

What are all the possibilities?

a4bdb7  No.4342

The party must have at least included God, since the same group is the one that decides to destroy Sodom.

That leaves these possibilities:

>The three persons of the trinity

>Pre-incarnate Jesus (christophany) and two angels

>God the Father (theophany) and two angels

>Two persons of the trinity and one angel (doubtful)


95e834  No.4357

John 1:18

No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

The only begotten is the revelation of God

The only begotten is Jesus

Abraham saw these men, so none of them were God the Father. At least one was Lord, so it was Jesus and two other heavenly beings.


c84c0e  No.4364

>Who are they?

>Is this the whole Trinity in human form?

>What are all the possibilities?

Going by >>4342 's and >>4357 's good post, considering the Holy Spirit never appears in some humanoid form that we know of in Scripture, and considering Jesus is usually the one who mediates between humans and the Trinity, probably Jesus and two angels. We see two angels go warn Lot and his family, so they were probably the ones with Jesus.




1cc9ed  No.4282[Reply]

Nihilist here. I don´t believe in God one bit and even if he would exist I still wouldn´t put my faith in him.

I have yet to find something that can truly challenge Nihilism instead of just avoiding it. Very interested in what you have to say.

Just try to give me something that cannot be rendered pointless by the question "why" and the lack of an answer to it.

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9244e9  No.4301

>>4282

There's an entire book of the Bible dedicated to this: Ecclesiastes.


96a091  No.4302

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>>4282

>Just try to give me something that cannot be rendered pointless by the question "why"

"Why" is a wonderful question.

Q.: Why do we live on a small Earth in a vast universe?

A.: In order to know that there is something greater than us.

Q.: Why can we so easily look at the sky but we can't reach it?

A.: To remind ourselves to be more diligent when we work to reach the heavens.

Q.: Why is our life so short?

A.: In order to know that there is something greater than this life.

Q.: Why do we meet financial loses?

A.: To remind ourselves the earthly wealth is transient, just like our earthly life, and that only in the heavens our treasures are safe, where neither moth nor rust consume, and where thieves do not break in and steal.

Q.: Why is there inequity in the society? Why are some people rich and others poor?

A.: To know that the earthly wealth is vanity.

Q.: Why do our bodies suffer from various illnesses?

A.: Because our souls are not healthy.

Q.: Why do we need to go to hospitals when we are seriously ill?

A.: To remind ourselves that our souls are seriously ill and only in the Church we can be cured.


60a9dc  No.4303

>>4302

And from where did you derive your answers?


96a091  No.4307

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>>4303

This isn't about derivation, anon! It's about what you choose: life or death, foolish senselessness or wise purposefulness. If you choose the life, you will see that my answers make perfect sense.

Since we are created in the image of God, we are free to choose whatever we want. We are free to choose that nothing is meaningful, everything is void, our life has no purpose, good and bad are fictitious, etc. I am sad about the people who make such a choice because they will be tormented by their bad choice for eternity.

Please, choose the wisdom, the good, the meaningful life! Follow the Christ and you "will not walk in the darkness but you will have the light of life." (John 8:12) Be reborn anew in order to become what you are meant to be.


e966e8  No.4323

>>4307

I'm not the nihist, I'm a Christian. I was only asking because your questions and answers aren't all directly lifted from the Bible.

Platitudinous, superficial explanations to challenging topics can be unattractive to an Inquisitor in my experience




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8a851d  No.4317[Reply]

Never forget.

3dd86d  No.4322

Thanks, I won't forget




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962b07  No.164[Reply]

I'm not ashamed to tell you, I saw sexual dreams today and a couple days earlier. Both, were caused by the unclean spirits trying to destroy my life. These unclean spirits shall always try to attack you at night, when sleeping, when you are least aware and active. You must will yourself out of the dream that is against God's will for you, to not want it makes the unclean spirits unable to attack you in your dreams. Put on the whole armor of God if you are not born again, be born again. The enemy knows that I know too much, he's trying to get me any way he can. I put my trust in the name of Jesus and in the Holy Spirit to keep me safe from harm's way.

There is little time left, all those who say are Christians, are you really a Christian or are you still holding onto your unclean spirits? You do not need to have them anymore, praise the Lord for the amazing power he gave to man to battle the demonic forces when he gave his own life on the cross! Prayer and commands in the name of Jesus are what scare the demons away, never forget this, brothers and sisters.

And to those who are catholics and of any other religion that bases the chances of getting to heaven through works, your good deeds are filthy rags to God, he doesn't want them, he wants you to believe in his Son who died for your sins and so that you may get to heaven through Him for He is the only way, for others before him have been thieves and robbers.

962b07  No.199

>>164

Do you believe the world will end tomorrow, and this is why you seem so hysterical?

Do you beleive that demonic spirits have power over you, despite you being protected by the love of God? If so, then realize that you have been deceived.

The core of the faith is not the struggle between good and evil, but to resist sin done by our own initiative and to grow in a spiritual marriage with God. There are no spiritual scapegoats, only your own fault for falling to temptation. Seek God not out of fear of his wrath, but out of compassion of his love and you will be freed of you bonds.

Be calm, peace is a fruit of the spirit.

amen


962b07  No.200

>>164

>There is little time left, all those who say are Christians, are you really a Christian or are you still holding onto your unclean spirits?

You seem to fear God's wrath or that he wont forgive you when you sin. You must realize that you are already justified to God through Christ, nothing more is needed, for it is a gift given by God to men. Theoretically you could sin more and Christ would give you more grace. God loves you, he is not a God of wrath.

This is why i find demonsim to be so caustic. Demonism deceives by putting the focus from God's Love and the struggle against sin and turns it into the focus of a cosmic battle between good and evil. But this is simply not the case. Demons have only the power to tempt you, or deceive you as they already have. They are not any more powerful that the water of a river though. They hae no power or freedom of action, they can only do things to you if God loosens their chains, and even then it is not so that God can punish you for being naughty, but so that you can grow in character and learn to have strengthened resolve and spirit.

I plead that you abandon the Good vs Evil dichotomy, it is a lie that removes the truth: that the struggle is in loving God, while resisting the temptation to follow our own earthly desires.

[spoiler]sometimes the truth is harder to believe than fiction, i hope and pray that you find your way to the lord, and may know of his love.[\spoiler]


39d163  No.4313

As someone who jerks off daily and commonly offers my sexual energy to succubi and other such spirits and has plenty of lewd dreams i can tell you that im doing just fine.




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5d1dc4  No.3473[Reply]

A thread dedicated to Baptist discussion and theology.

>The Gospel

>>1 Corinthians 15:1-4__

>"Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

>>Romans 10:9-10__

>"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

>Baptist Confessions, and Statements

>London Baptist Confession of 1689 (Calvinist): http://www.ccel.org/ccel/anonymous/bcf.pdf

>Baptist Faith and Message (Arminian Inclusive): http://www.sbc.net/bfm2000/bfm2000.asp

>Notable Modern Baptist Teachers

>Albert Mohler: https://albertmohler.com/

>James White: https://www.youtube.com/user/AominOrg

>John Piper: https://www.desiringgod.org/

>Leighton Flowers: https://www.youtube.com/user/MrLeightonFlowers

>Robert Truelove: https://www.youtube.com/chaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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29406b  No.4258

>>4195

I feel ya. I think a lot of anons here can relate to falling into the pit of pornography and the kinks that can come from spiraling down that rabbit hole.

If you're not already on NoFap, get on that. Pray to our Lord Jesus Christ with all sincerity, and think about supplementing your struggle by joining a 12 step program like SAA (Sex Addicts Anonymous) or the aforementioned SLAA >>4157 . And don't beat yourself up too hard when you slip up, it'll make things worse. Get back up, repent, and try again. There was a time I couldn't go 5 days without cracking. Now I'm on my 44th day thanks to Jesus Christ. Weird fetishes are supposed to start disappearing as your brain begins to heal after about the 90 day mark. But remember: as with any addiction, take it one day at a time.


eda7bf  No.4265

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>4157

The emotion of love is not addictive. Stop trying to classify every action against one's better judgement as addiction.

Also, don't go to a 12 step program everyone


29406b  No.4289

>>4265

>The emotion of love is not addictive. Stop trying to classify every action against one's better judgement as addiction.

Not every sin is an addiction, but saying that compulsively seeking fulfillment in romantic relationships/sex cannot be addictive is naive and ignorant.

>Also, don't go to a 12 step program everyone

Skimmed the video a bit. I agree that a totally Christian program for handling sex addiction is best…if one can find it. That's the rub. If. As far as I know, in my area, there is no purely Christian equivalent to something like SAA.

The closest thing I can find is another 12 step program called "Sexaholics Anonymous", which is the only 12 step program to have a distinctively Christian definition for sobriety:

>"In defining sobriety, we do not speak for those outside Sexaholics Anonymous. We can only speak for ourselves. Thus, for the married sexaholic, sexual sobriety means having no form of sex with self or with persons other than the spouse. For the unmarried sexaholic, sexual sobriety means freedom from sex of any kind. And for all of us, single and married alike, sexual sobriety also includes progressive victory over lust".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexaholics_Anonymous

If there was one of these in my area, I would go to that instead, but SAA is what I have to work with, so I'm working that. Even the video you posted seems to only tackle drug and alcohol addiction, and subsequently AA. Christian-wise, all I've found online are either Christian programs that are in another state or half-way across the country, or are phone based and cost money that I don't have, and many others may not: https://www.blazinggrace.org/mens-sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


29406b  No.4293

>>4289

Here's another example:

https://faithfulandtrue.com/counseling-for-men/

But once again, I don't live in Minnesota, and I don't have $65 per group session. Are you starting to get the picture yet? This is an area that Christianity as a whole needs to catch up on in terms of providing help and resources.


29406b  No.4296

>>4293

Just to drive the point home further:

https://www.aplaceofhopechristiancounseling.com/get-help-now/

>Financing: In addition to working with most insurance carriers we have other financing options available. We are able to assist most people to get the care they need. There are payment options available and we will work with you.

Here's another program that is located far away, and has it's own at home program for those who can't make it. The cost? $800…

https://www.purelifeministries.org/overcomers

And another Christian resource that recommends the 12 steps:

https://www.nacr.org/center-for-12-step-recovery




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b076f6  No.3905[Reply]

This board is dead as fuck

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b3fd96  No.3918

>>3905

Nope


d3470e  No.3931

Bro this board is in the top 30, its probably alive as ever.


22190e  No.4013

>>3931

this


1b64af  No.4288

How old is the board? I just recently saw it in the popular board-list.


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