/christianity/ - Christian Theology & Philosophy

>>11641

By that logic, we should ban mainstream movies that involve animals, since they are under constant watch and have frequent legal tangles with everyone from American Humane to Greenpeace and stuff.

As a sidenote, even if porn was in such a legal grey zone, it would been resolved by now, if only by invoking legal precedents by these supposed round the clock lawsuits.

For crying out loud, i think the porn industry is downright evil and exploitative, and even i think his train of thought is incredibly retarded, from a legislative POV.

Porn should be banned. I'm nearly certain that it never will.

> Jones would create some Saudi Arabia tier totalitarian police state

mhh lets see

>fags dead

>jews dead

sounds based

but you fags love porn,

no sorry

you fags love hentai, despite being the same bulls—

>>11641

Stupid argument since you're appealing to legal formalisms that could easily be changed such that they didn't conflict with the porn industry. If the laws were more biased towards them, they wouldn't be constantly litigated against; some method of proving their legality might easily be devised, and if the legal formalisms of things like "consent" are changed they might not even be problematic for the industry (furthermore, your argument implies that the worst filth imaginable like these porn studios produce becomes morally licit so long as all involved "consent". Did I wander into reddit?). Porn should be illegal because it's an unalloyed evil that damages everyone involved and has no benefit, that would also be extremely easy to limit the reach of.

>>11709

Lolbergs are terminally clueless. YoU wAnT a PoLiCe StAtE??? We already have a totalitarian police state that forcibly prevents people from resisting both invading foreign armies taking over their communities, and also prevents them from stopping gangs of sodomites highjacking main street for their parades of perversion. It's the manifestation of everything negative that there could possibly about an absolute tyrrany, with none of the promised security or order. The "authoritarian" western world was and will be a thousand times better to live in than Saudi Arabia, but even if it wasn't Saudi Arabia >>>>>>>> Clown World.

>>11625

More or less.

>>11625

Gamma means a type of male who exhibits anti social behavioral patterns that make them incredibly toxic to social interactions online and otherwise.

>>11935

>gamma means toxic

Think about how that word is used, and find the irony in all of it.

>>11935

Poor definition. Gamma means a low-status male (usually a midwit) with an inflated sense of intellectual and technical ability, which is only flimsily maintained due to self-conciousness about his lack of actual achievement. Due to this psychology, gammas avoid actually taking chances on doing things with any risk of failure, since any failure would threaten to shatter their fragile self-image of secret unappreciated genius.

They also react extremely poorly to any negative feedback from figures of authority or people of perceived greater status, since negative feedback is a threat to their self-image as infallible intellectual titan. Hence they tend to sabotage any work they are a part of, since them feeling slighted by a superior is inevitable. They also tend to become ankle-biters who attack people they were formerly fans of when their attempts to instruct or become more closely involved with hese higher-status figures are inevitably rejected.

>>12156

No

>>12156

No.

t. Orthodoxanon

>>12156

idk, it makes purgatory seem more impersonal if it can be transposed upon it.

>>12320

>>12320

>more

Less*

>>11769

No schlomo, we don't. This is a dumb talking point that no honest apologist would toss in here offhand. Pot stirrers not welcome.

Here's a Catholic discussing it https://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2017/06/luther-believe-christ-committed-adultery-mary-magdalene.html

Protestant https://wolfmueller.co/did-martin-luther-claim-that-Jesus-was-an-adulterer/

Worst case, a reformer made a bad and even blasphemous comment which none of us are beholden to. This is a situation several popes have also brought upon themselves.

>>11770

This 'reformer' is the one behind your doctrines

>>10199

" disciples were urging Jesus [to have a meal], saying, “Teacher, eat.” 32 But He told them, “I have food to eat that you do not know about.” 33 So the disciples said to one another, “Has anyone brought Him something to eat?” 34 Jesus said to them, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to completely finish His work."

You're telling me Jesus had time to waste on women when he barely fed Himself?

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>>12229

>There's a Catholic flag.

No kidding. I'm not saying

<durr Catholics get out

I'm saying this thread topic belongs on the Catholic board.

>>12218

>Logical position

>Appeal to consensus

That's not how logic works

>>12229

I was permabanned once there for saying that I don't like the Novus Ordo Mass (their excuse was that I was "a /islam/ troll" lol), /catholic/ is dead and half their post were about SSPX drama.

This is the most decent place currently.

>>12234

They can make Catholic specific threads just like we can make Presbyterian or Methodist threads. You don't have to post in them if you don't want.

Wasn't he an arian?

And yes, liberalism is sorta a religion itself which supersedes any creed.

>>12107

>He doesn't tell the Eunuch "God has inerrantly explained this passage through a certain ecclesiastical office", he told him the gospel message of Jesus.

this

>And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. (Acts 8:36,37)

Pedobaptism disproved right here.

>>12223

>Apparently its Christian unity week and we are called to pray for an united Christendom. Lets do so

I don't pray with Muslims, so why would I pray with a Roman Catholic for a holiday made up by Roman Catholics? There can be no theological or ecclesiastical unity between us. Our differences are too great. We have no more interest in submitting to your Pope king than we do the the Prophet president of the Mormon church.

>>12223

You are erroneously oversimplifying everything to say everything in Protestantism is a result of sola scriptura and everything in the RCC is a result of a magesterial concept.

>But in a book of such richness of meanings and symbology there will always be a plethora of interpretations, so how can it be self authoritative

Every argument has to stand on its own merit, and we leave room for disagreement. Remember, Sola scriptura means scripture is the final authority, still using every tool possible like ancient language research, biblical archaeology, early Christian studies etc

>sola scriptura makes that as time goes on the more church splinters

Denominationalism is liberty plus conviction. That conviction to leave can be from a Sola scriptura perspective or not.

>But if that was so protestantism would have been a bulwark of unity and stability but its the Christian group that more divides itself due to new people thinking their interpretation is actually the real sola scriptura one.

If our hermeneutical method was right, there wouldn't be other disagreements? Just dumb

We're also operating on a totally fabricated idea of interpretive authority in the Roman Catholic church. Roman catholic scholars are constantly debating interpretations of texts (as they should be) just like Protestant scholars. Nobody in the rcc has sat down under the authority of his funny hat and given everybody the right interpretation of every passage in the Bible, it just so happens that the over time they've conveniently declared inspiration directly from God on the doctrines that centralize their authority.

In any case, you must agree that this passage does not present any challenge for sola scriptura.

Because it's Truth.

Eternal life

>>12200

you shouldn't. You should follow the Chad Catholicism.

>>12200

>I'm desperate for answers.

Then ask a question.

>>11816

If you have reason to suspect that your wife is committing adultery, you can (and I say SHOULD) divorce her.

>>12094

>divorce on mere suspicion

unacceptable

>>12094

You, uh, got a Single verse for that?

>>12094

This isn't /islam/

>>11868

>11846

11846's post was so good that I was going to just move on but then I saw 11868's stuff and felt the need to ask this question, which implies a very strong answer if he can't answer it: What verse do you have to substantiate that penetrative intercourse = "marriage in the flesh?" In the OT the man /had/ to marry a virgin because virgins were worthless without their virginity in that culture, meaning that the man just destined the woman to live forever unmarried in her father's house. Therefore, so that she would not have to suffer such a fate, the man was /required/ to marry her.

This is not /at all/ the case in most of the world today, nor was it really in Jesus' day, which is why this Law is not brought into the NT. (If you want to get angry about me for dissing the Mosaic Law, then I'd like to ask you if you, "wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together," Levi. 19:19)

Until he finds a verse to substantiate the claim he made earlier (Paul's "You've been joined to the prostitute" verse doesn't count because Paul doesn't say that the men who do this need to marry the prostitute), I'll toss in that you have no obligation towards her, and as our good friend 11846 said above, you've already failed her and trying to save the ship will only drown you both. I.e., if you truly Love her, you'll let her go, get yourself right, and then /maybe/ come back as a proper man.

Now, also keep in mind, all of that has been said completely void of the whole point that you're now dead to your desires and alive to Christ, which means you are to /deny/ yourself, take up your cross, and die daily. Therein, on that verse alone, from Jesus' mouth, your confession of "I have too much affection for her," is actually a statement of idolatry. (My condolences if this hurts to hear this.) Therefore, you /must/ separate from that idol, rather than cling to it and "try to make it right."

>>12073

fyi use two apostrophes to italicize on this site

>>12086

Cheers mate

Lose salvation and that of your offspring over vagina?

Get your priorities straight.

I'm a Turk and let me tell if you a Turkish girl and her family are serious about religion then in most cases they are nutjobs so run away