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PDF Thread

Let's have a PDF thread going. Going to dump some stuff I have.


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Welcome to /k/

If you're looking for gun history, terms, the basics to gun laws, or what gun you should buy next, go here: http://amagicalplace.wikia.com/wiki/Sticky#

Other board of interest:


Rules: https://8ch.net/k/rules.html

Check the sticky before posting.

All random questions about guns go in the QTDDTOT thread.

Please check the Catalog before posting and avoid duplicate threads.

Tripfags need not apply; see rule 7

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Reinventing standards RP thread

Suppose that you went back to 1000AD and invented firearms, given the ability to utilize any modern manufacturing method how would you standardize firearms? Examples:

>No meme calibers, have ~5 extremely versatile calibers, sizes 2-4 have shotshell variants with the smallest size being similar to 22LR and the largest being 50BMG (yes there would be larger ones for heavy weapons but I don't know much about them)

>Universal platform like the AR-15 but with even more variety. Swap in a bolt-action receiver, put a stock on the back of a pistol and swap out the barrel to make it a carbine, swap out the barrel of a shotgun with a rifled one to make it a rifle, etc.

>Every screw is a phillipshead actually I haven't encountered any weapon where this isn't the case

>Use a consistent naming convention for weapons that conveys caliber, length, and receiver type. Examples:

>Carbine ->L(ight bullet)M(edium barrel)S(emiautomatic) -> LMS

>LMG -> H(eavy bullet)L(ong barrel)A(utomatic) -> HLA

>Survival rifle -> T(iny bullet)L(ong barrel)B(reak-action) -> TLB

>Pump shotgun -> M(edium bullet)M(edium barrel)P(ump-action) -> MMP

Of course you would probably change some of the words for receivers that start with the same letter, like B for bolt-action and break-action.

What other things do you wish you could change, /k/?

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>How the gun industry is putting public safety at risk by manufacturing extremely

lethal firearms designed to skirt the federal laws established to keep us safe.

>DAVID CHIPMAN Senior Policy Advisor at Giffords, former ATF Special Agent

LINDSAY NICHOLS Federal Policy Director at Giffords Law Center

As can be expected, the bumpstock ban has emboldened the Left to new heights, now Giffords (sounds like a fucking department store) is targeting binary triggers, trigger cranks, "high capacity shotguns", AK and AR pistols, pistol braces, blade braces, .50BMG ammo and rifles, muzzleloaders, and "specialty ammunition: tracers and incendiary rounds". This being one of the many, many hilariously bullshit pieces of propaganda in this fire;

>Armor-piercing ammunition, rounds composed of heavy metals that can defeat heavy military equipment such as tanks, has been regulated by ATF since 1986, if it can be fired from a handgun.

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/k/ goes to South Africa

Alright boys, the world is watching and sitting by while good people are being butchered by their government. They have virtually zero assistance from any outside forces, no media coverage, anything. South Afri/k/a anon could chime in here but you get the gist. I recall frequent threads back in the old days about joining in active combat zones and staking our claim, making a difference. I unironically think this could be our chance.

>apply as PMC firm

>market ourselves exclusively to white Africans

>do our jobs at extremely low rate in exchange for housing/ammunition

>eventually gain enough capital to buy land

>create /k/ompound, train locals in self defense and covert operations

>become militarie sans frontiers

Fucking foolproof plan, we just have to figure out how to actually get there.

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Medic thread

Hello /k/ ive noticed that we dont have a medic thread. So post anything relating to medical stuff here.

(pdfs, images, history, etc)

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SWISS ARE CUCKS ! Switzerland voted in popular referendum to get stricter Gun Control.

Switzerland voted in popular referendum to get stricter Gun Control, to please the (((Soviet))) European Union.

Three articles on that.

RT: Gun-loving Swiss agree to harsher firearms control to avoid Schengen tensions


TheLocal.ch : Swiss vote to tighten gun laws, safeguard EU relations


Swissinfo.ch: Gun lobby looks set to miss its referendum target


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Creative Guns thread

Title says it all, post your wild, wacky, and wonderful boomsticks that some crazed machinist dreamed up in his garage and somehow made without killing himself.

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Zion Don strikes again

>President Donald Trump said he’ll "seriously look" at banning gun silencers after last week’s mass shooting in Virginia.

>“Well, I’d like to think about it," Trump said in an interview with Piers Morgan on ITV’s Good Morning Britain. “I’m going to seriously look at it."

>While Trump said he didn’t "love" the idea of a ban, he also was unhappy to see the frequency and severity of mass shootings in the U.S.

>Trump’s comments represent a potential crack in Republican opposition to stronger gun control measures.

>They follow a shooting last week at a municipal center in Virginia Beach, Virginia, in which a gunman killed 12 people. Police recovered a high-capacity magazine and a silencer mechanism from the scene.

>Virginia’s Democratic governor, Ralph Northam, said Tuesday he will summon lawmakers back to the state Capitol to consider a package of gun-control legislation. Republicans control the state’s legislature. Northam’s proposals include a ban on silencers and high-capacity magazines.

>The Trump administration earlier this year banned bump stocks, devices that let a semi-automatic weapon fire like a machine gun.



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Strait of Hormuz tensions

Reports coming that Japanese tankers have been supposedly been attacked off the coast of Iran Smells like False Flag; reports are in chronological order, all in JST (+9 GMT). Will add stories as they develop, here are some basic facts.

>Ship carrying oil attacked off Iranian Coast

>Japanese company owned ship sailing under Panamanian Flag manned by Pinoys

>Attack was most likely either shells or torpedoes of unknown origins

>Kokuka Sangyo is a subsidiary of Mitsubishi Group

Reports of "Tankers Attacked" to US Navy


2019/6/13 18:14 (JST)

>According to US Navy 5th Fleet stationed in the Middle East reported on the 13th, two tankers reported to have "received attacks" in the Gulf of Oman off the Iranian coast.




Minister of Economy, Trade, and Industry reports that Japanese related ships attacked in Strait of Hormuz


2019/6/13 18:14 (JST)

>Minister of Economy (etc) Hiroshige Sekō released to journalists on the 13th that "There is information pertaining to Japanese related ships being attacked off the Strait of Hormuz".




Tankers attacked over two incidents


2019/6/13 18:19 (JST)6/13 18:28 (JST)updated

>According to Kokuka Sangyo, the tanker was attacked twice first in midday, and around 1500 all Japan Standard Time.




Sailors comprised of 21 Pinoys, all evacuated


2019/6/13 18:26 (JST)6/13 18:29 (JST)updated

>According to the Ministry of Transport and Kokuka Sangyo, the ship attacked off the Strait of Hormuz was manned by 21 Pinoy sailors who all escaped on lifeboats. All are headed for the United Arab Emirates.




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Lessons for next time?

>Unified command structure between nations, clear cooperation and goals.

<To make sure things like Greece don't happen.

<And have a Japan pull a pincer move.

>When bombing Britain, go for all targets possible instead of just military. This counts for all bombing efforts.

<Increase the pressure on the population.

>Have your logistics be clear cut and straight, no SS debauchery.

>When starting the war till it's end, full war economy.

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Harbour Freight knife for BOB

I am getting a cheap Harbour freight survival knife for my BOB.

I know they are not the most reliable because they can break after using for batoning a couple dozen limbs without tightening its placement screw. But would it hold up as a cheap knife for innawoods or general BOBs?

Btw does not have to be from Harbour freight, just these shitty $10 knives

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Old thread will no longer bump back up to the first page, creating a new one.

Old thread >>530956

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Updating Guns for Poor People

This image is almost 2 years old. It has aged fairly well (compared to its predecessor), but there's stuff that needs an updating, primarily due to some really good new options having come out. I'd like to do a new version when the new Hi-Point comes out and has had a month or so to make sure it's not somehow worse than its predecessor

>add Ruger EC9s, M&P Shield 2.0 (mention original can be found for 50 bucks less) and CCP2, drop Kel-tec and/or SCCY

>ETS QC is slipping, drop them from recomended mags

>drop Surefirewaytogivemoney to anti 2A politicans from light recommendations

>clear quislings from recommended Youtube list

Anything else to change or add? Thinking maybe Hi-Point carbine as a long arm, but it uses Hi-Point mags which I've heard really bad things about (and mag malfunctions are ones that racking the charging handle/slide isn't going to fix, which really sucks). Thoughts on that?

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Video game thread

So we don't have multiple threads made /v/irgins asking what guns to put in their indie game or multiple threads about the HECU Marines from Half-Life let's have a cyclical thread for contained vidya discussion.

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You're sitting in front of /k/, feeling a bit bored. Your guns are cleaned after a shoot, you've had a bat, drunk your night-cap, and now for the lull of the night.

Until suddenly, a magical portal appears. A wizard steps out and says they need you to operate inside of a DnD dungeon with all kinds of dumb-fuckery and monsters inside it. He says he can only keep this man sized portal up for two minutes from now- you have to grab all your shit and go in. There's no gunsmiths on the other side, but all your ammo will randomly drop from monsters on your kills, but only one type of ammo at a time. If you die, you'll get tossed out of the portal, a little bruised but otherwise OK. If you win and kill the BBEG with your party, you get a huge bag of 24 carat gold bars and a loyal qt nympho succubus with big tiddies.

What do you grab? Doesn't have to be in your possession.

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Ration Thread

What makes a great ration? And why are MREs so shit?

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Crosspost - A Firearms Company

Mostly crosspost from >>13377008 since thread is dying down - same OP

Tl;dr(since this is /k/ and strelo/k/s are already smart to the 'how to make a firearms company' shit), I want to put forward the suggestion of anons, from /k/ and /pol/, working together IRL to create a legal firearms manufacturing company. We already have plenty of machinists, engineers, and garage tinkerers around, we have hordes of CADs, blueprints, and instructions relating to the manufacture of a wide variety of firearms at our disposal. I at least know how to manage the business side of things and would be 100% shocked if there weren't any other anons here who knew the same, and there's also inevitably money to be found on here as well. Following US law, we can all benefit the community through our success, make money, and perhaps revolutionize firearms while we're at it one way or another.

Email is muhthrowawayaccount@protonmail.com - will gladly answer any questions regarding this.

As said before:

>inb4 “glownigger”

Nothing I'm suggesting is illegal or otherwise against US law, so glow accusations are 100% paranoid autists or (((schlomo))) interference.

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Travelling through Sewers

In an SHTF/Insurgent-type scenario, how effective would it for Insurgents to be travelling through sewage lines to avoid police/military above? I'd imagine that if you're able to map out the sewage lines you can do all sorts of hit-and-run guerrilla shit without anybody noticing your movements. I'd also imagine it'd be hard to track where you've been considering you're trudging through shit and piss the entire time.

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Webm Thread

The old ones have problems due to the great crash. And since my computer got fucked and had to be factory reset I'm asking for everyone to dump their full collection here so we can have a source of webms to last the ages here I have little to start with though.

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Mexican soldiers dissarm US solders on American soil



Why did these fucking cucks lay down their weapons? Would you be allowed to shoot them in this situation?

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First time at the firing range

Hi /K/, went to the firing range for the first time with girlfriend's brother who's in the Military. Had a great time, really happy to have learned the basics of firearm safety and how to properly aim and load a weapon. What was the first gun you fired?

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What's your favorite camouflage pattern?

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/k/ patrols the border



Armed civilians are detaining migrants at the border. The (((ACLU))) wants them (((investigated)))

>In the middle of the night Tuesday, United Constitutional Patriots, an armed civilian group patrolling the U.S.-Mexico border in the Sunland Park area, detained more than 300 migrants who illegally crossed the border.

>The group, who claim they are at the border to “uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America,” is patrolling the desert near Sunland Park searching for migrants.

>In a video livestreamed April 16 on Facebook by one of the United Constitutional Patriots' members, the group is seen detaining a group of about 300 migrants, including children. The video starts in the middle of the incident with U.S. Border Patrol vehicle and agents already at the scene.

>In the video, the member repeatedly says, “This is an invasion … and it is never, never ending” referring to the large number of Central American migrants crossing into the U.S. to seek asylum.

>The group claims on its website that it is not violating any state or federal laws.

>The (((American Civil Liberties Union of New Mexico))) disagrees with the group calling their actions, “unlawful.”

>In a letter sent to New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham and New Mexico Attorney General Hector Balderas, (((ACLU))) officials request they “investigate an armed vigilante group currently engaged in the unlawful detention of hundreds of migrants near New Mexico’s southern border.”

>The letter states, “an armed fascist militia organization describing itself as the United Constitutional Patriots arrested nearly three hundred people seeking safety in the United States, including young children, near Sunland Park, New Mexico. Other videos appear to show arrests in the past few hours. The vigilante members of the organization, including Jim Benvie, who posted videos and photographs of the unlawful arrests to social media, are not police or law enforcement and they have no authority under New Mexico or federal law to detain or arrest migrants in the United States.”

>It continues, “Their actions undermine the legitimate efforts of our state’s law enforcement officials to keep New Mexico families safe and they erode community trust. The Trump administration’s vile racism has emboldened white nationalists and fascists to flagrantly violate the law. This has no place in our state: we cannot allow racist and armed vigilantes to kidnap and detain people seeking asylum. We urge you to immediately investigate this atrocious and unlawful conduct.”

>ACLU concludes their letter stating, “The Trump administration’s vile racism has emboldened white nationalists and fascists to flagrantly violate the law. This has no place in our state: we cannot allow racist and armed vigilantes to kidnap and detain people seeking asylum. We urge you to immediately investigate this atrocious and unlawful conduct."

>United Constitutional Patriots leaders could not immediately be reached by phone or through social media for comment Friday. United Constitutional Patriots members have posted dozens of videos of the group patrolling and detaining migrants they find in the desert.

>The videos show men and women wearing camouflage military-like uniforms with assault rifles “scooping the border” looking for migrants. The group records videos on its Facebook page in order to document the situation with migrants at the border and to “show the truth to the American people,” United Constitutional Patriots New Mexico Border Ops spokesman Jim Benvie told the El Paso Times in a past interview.

>“The truth isn’t being told about this crisis," Benvie said. "A lot of people are accusing President (Donald) Trump of manufacturing a crisis and I think the videos we are down here producing, which isn’t left or right, is providing evidence that this is a crisis.”

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AR-15 General

I didn't see any kind of AR General thread so I figured I'd make one. Also wasn't aware of a copypasta info either.

I'm making this thread to discuss configuration, accessories, paint, ballistics, brands and whatever else relates to the assembly, use, and culture of Stoner's magnificent rifle.

AR-10 discussion also welcome.

>Pic from a YouTube video

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Asia Defence General - Strait Pride Edition

Defying China, U.S. to sell new tanks, anti-aircraft missiles to Taiwan in $2B deal

By Carlo Muñoz - The Washington Times - Friday, June 7, 2019

>In a deal that has drawn the anger of mainland China, Taiwan has signed a multibillion-dollar weapons deal with the Trump administration for hundreds of new tanks, rockets and surface-to-air missiles, defense officials in Taipei confirmed this week.

>The Taiwan’s Ministry of National Defense said the nation’s military will receive 100 M1A1 Abrams battle tanks, 1,240 BGM-71 TOW anti-tank missiles, 409 FGM-148 Javelin anti-tank missiles and 250 surface-to-air Stinger missiles in the estimated $2 billion arms package.

>The new Abrams tanks, built by U.S. weapons maker General Dynamics, will replace Taiwan’s aging American-made M60A3 battle tanks and the Taiwanese-manufactured M48H CM11 tank, defense officials in Taipei said. The publication Jane’s Defence first reported details of the arms deal.

>The deal falls in line with defense Taiwan Relation Act, which legally binds the United States to provide arms and material to support the Taiwanese military. The announcement also comes amid rising tensions between Taipei and Beijing.

>But Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said that China, which views Taiwan as a renegade province, firmly opposes the arms deal.

>“We urge the U.S. to fully understand the high sensitivity and serious harm of the issue of arms sales to Taiwan and abide by the one-China principle,” Mr. Geng told reporters in a Beijing briefing Thursday.



US under Trump takes step towards recognizing Taiwan as a country

Recent trends suggest a change in Taiwan's official status may be on the horizon

By Duncan DeAeth, Taiwan News, Staff Writer

2019/06/08 13:52

>TAIPEI (Taiwan News) – Over the past several months, and especially the last few weeks, it appears that the United States under the Trump administration is taking a much clearer stance on relations with Taiwan.

>Specifically, the Indo-Pacific Strategy Report published by the Department of Defense (DoD) on June 1, along with a few other notable events, and the recently reported US$2.6 billion dollar weapon’s deal to provide Taiwan with new tanks and missiles, suggests that the Trump administration is taking its obligation to ensure Taiwan’s defensive capabilities seriously.


>Beyond referring to Taiwan as a “country” with no mention of the “Republic of China,” the report also emphasizes that the U.S. military is committed to upholding the provisions of the Taiwan Relations Act (TRA), and states that a “strong, prosperous, and democratic Taiwan” is in the interests of the United States.




I didn't see a thread specific to our Taiwan or the tension in the Taiwan strait. It's for sure an interesting turn of events especially within geopolitical and power balance contexts.

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Today marks the 325th anniversary of one of the worst spankings in military history; the battle of Hodów. I unfortunately can't find any English non-wikipedia sources, so without further ado;

From Wikipedia:

>The Battle of Hodów was a battle between the Kingdom of Poland and Crimean Khanate forces, fought in June 1694 in the Ruthenian Voivodeship of the Crown of the Kingdom of Poland, near the village of Hodów (now in Zboriv Raion, Ternopil Oblast, Ukraine). Often it is called the Polish Thermopylae, like the Battle of Wizna.

>In June 1694 Tatar Muslims forces raided Polish territory with the aim to pillage the countryside and capture prisoners for ransom. The Polish forces sent to stop them consisted of 7 chorągwie of hussars and pancerni from the Trenches of the Holy Trinity (Okopy Świętej Trójcy) and The Redoubt of Virgin Mary (Szaniec Panny Marii) strongholds, approximately four hundred men in total; historian Mirosław Nagielski estimates 100 hussars and 300 pancerni. Tatar numbers were estimated at twenty-five to seventy thousand, with forty thousand being the most commonly quoted figure. John III Sobieski, the king of Poland at the time, also mentioned the figure of forty thousand.

>The first encounter took place on the fields near Hodów. The 400-strong Polish cavalry charged the 700-strong Tatar vanguard and made them withdraw. Shortly afterwards Polish forces retreated to Hodów village due to overwhelming enemy numbers, and proceeded to fortify themselves using heavy wooden fences left there from earlier Tatar invasions. For the next 6 hours Polish troops resisted relentless Tatar attacks. Even after the Polish ran out of bullets, they continued to fire at the enemy, using Tatar arrowheads as improvised ammunition for their guns.

>Unable to defeat the Poles, Tatars sent Polish-speaking Lipka Tatars to convince the Polish troops to surrender. When the Polish commander replied "Come and get us if you can", the Tatars withdrew to Kamieniec Podolski and gave up on the entire raid, having gained nearly nothing despite large troop losses and vast numerical advantage.

>King John III Sobieski made use of this outstanding victory to raise army morale: he paid generous compensation to those who lost their horses, financed treatment of wounded and rewarded those who captured enemy soldiers. In 1695 he also commissioned a statue commemorating the battle. This monument survived into modern times and was renewed in the summer of 2014, then officially unveiled during the celebration of 320th anniversary of the Battle, on 25 October 2014.


I guess it's fitting that Europe's plumbers destroyed a bunch of mudslime shitters.

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Homemade .32 ACP semi-auto pistol

So, first I’m going to tell you about how this thing works. It’s a .32 ACP semi-automatic handgun (closed bolt) that uses a nail gun that is small and compact enough to fit in the magazine well to act as the striker. The trigger is a thin, sturdy metal rod that extends from inside the nail gun in a kind of button trigger thing that it clicks into with tightened springs, so that it’ll be strong enough to pop the primer of a bullet traveling at the right fps speed to hit it through a hole in the bolt face. There are two extractors, one for the nail, one for the spent cartridge casing (nail gun goes behind the bolt face, magazine goes in front). Although I might’ve gotten the length for the extractor for the nail wrong, since I’m using short and thin nails, and since it has some ways to go to hit the primer, I might need to make the nail extractor longer. Or I could use the back of the bolt to push it back or have it at the right fps so that it’ll fly back in the right direction under the recoil and come out the short extractor that is just big enough to allow it to come out. On the back of the rear barrel, there is a semispherical shaped piece that connects to an inner slide that goes over the bolt, which is attached through the frame using two large pins. There are two horizontal lines cut into the inner slide/bolt on the right of the right pin and on the left of the left pin, with a thermometer head shaped piece at the end with some rubber or putty-like material in it that will hold it when the slide is back without getting it stuck in place. The bolt is like that of an AR-15s bolt carrier group (or BCG) so that it can fit in the rear barrel. I drew inspiration from the Ruger MK I/IV handgun designs for this pistol. I might separate the holes in the inner slide and bolt about a millimeter to a centimeter in from the holes in the frame that they line up with under recoil to eject the nails and spent cartridge casings. The forward and backward action of the inner slide/boot is powered by two recoil springs, which are attached to four nipples (two on the inner slide face and two on the rear bolt), which use two long, thin springs to strip the nails and cartridge casings from the firing chamber under the recoil of each shot.

To push the bolt back, a magazine is inserted into the bottom, with the follower facing backwards to allow you to insert a clip through the top as the bolt/slide is held back. There is a pointed sight at the end of the front barrel and two wooden pieces that are screwed into the sides of the grip for aesthetic purposes (and to provide a grip, as this guns grip was designed for that). The nail gun and magazine are both facing forward diagonally, as is the grip/mag well, to not only provide a better grip at the top around the trigger, but to also hold it better in the gun. The slot that the magazine goes into the feed is a tight fit for the magazine, which is thin, but just thick enough to accept a .32 caliber cartridge. The nail gun is also thin to provide more space in the mag well without taking up too much to where your grip is too large.

The barrel is rifled with a quarter inch piece off a drill bit with a custom rifling pattern dremeled into the drill bit (after using the sandpaper bit to remove the drilling pattern) on a drill press with a drilling rod long enough to push it all the way through the barrel, using an allen wrench c-clamped and held underneath the table, the barrel is also drilled out using a drill press, the crowning and chambering is done with a dremel, and I’m not too sure what I would use to ream it and lap it.

The bolt and inner slide have a total of 7 holes in them (two underneath to accept the magazine and nail gun into the feed, 2 on the sides at the back for the pins, two on the right side for the nail and cartridge casing extractor and one on the top for inserting the clip, which is also closed when the slide/bolt is at rest).

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Virginia Special Session of Legislature

The Governor of Virginia is calling a special session of the state's legislature over gun restrictions following the shooting at Virginia Beach.

>Likely plans include magazine capacity restrictions and suppressor bans

>The legislature has a small pro-gun majority, so the new policies may not make it through


>The state legislature recently shot down a capacity bill with no grandfather clause

>While it didn't pass, Republikikes have said they're now willing to show up to a negotiating table with Democrats

Between this, the anti-gun ATF pick, and Trump's suppressor comments, some real gay shit is coming down the pipeline

>captcha "PRC"

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Blackpowder Munitions Thread

>Cap & ball


>Classical cannons


>modern guns?

Law-fags, history-fags, and timetraveling-fags

Wherever you're from, welcome to the BMT

Whether you make black powder at home, buy it, or even if you use Pyrodex & 777, its all an important staple in guns, whether you know it or not

Black powder has been used longer than smokeless, but has almost been completely forgotten bar from those that can only use it

Even though black powder has still killed more than smokeless, it is only seen as a harmless sporting good & passed away by many fuds from it's true potential

>Have any of you anons made blackpowder at home? If so, would you share your experiences & recipes?

>Whats you favorite weapons that use blackpowder?

>Do any of you own a fucking cannon?

>How do you get around the time constraints of reloading?

>Have any of you made your own powderflasks?

>Whats your favorite piece you own?

>Tyrese give these niggas a volley ?

>What types of caps do you use?

>Conical or ball?

Affix bayonets & get to discussion

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Missouri to pass a bill to lift all Federal Gun Control in the state


>Missouri may have just made the most monumental step towards freedom and individual liberty since the signing of the Bill of Rights. In an upcoming vote by Missouri’s state senate, the state is expected to pass a bill that would nullify ALL Federal gun laws and regulations, and make enforcement of those laws by federal officers within the State of Missouri a criminal offense. Republicans control both U.S. Senate seats and more than two-thirds of the seats in both the Missouri House and Senate.

>Like it’s predecessor, SB613, Bill SB367 and it’s companion, House Bill HB786, would prevent all state agencies and their employees from enforcing any federal law that infringes the Second Amendment in any way, including gun registrations, fees, fines, licenses and bans. Originally authored in 2014, a former version of the bill was also passed, but vetoed by then Missouri Governor Jay Nixon.

All federal acts, laws, executive orders, administrative orders, court orders, rules, and regulations, whether past, present, or future, which infringe on the people’s right to keep and bear arms as guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States I and Section 23 of the Missouri Constitution shall be invalid in this state, shall not be recognized by this state, shall be specifically rejected by this state, and shall be considered null and void and of no effect in this state.”

>For added measure, SB367’s authors went into great detail on what federal laws will be “considered null and void and of no effect.”

<(a) Any tax, levy, fee, or stamp imposed on firearms, firearm accessories, or ammunition not common to all other goods and services which might reasonably be expected to create a chilling effect on the purchase or ownership of those items by law-abiding citizens;

<(b) Any registering or tracking of firearms, firearm accessories, or ammunition which might reasonably be expected to create a chilling effect on the purchase or ownership of those items by law-abiding citizens;

<(c) Any registering or tracking of the owners of firearms, firearm accessories, or ammunition which might reasonably be expected to create a chilling effect on the purchase or ownership of those items by law-abiding citizens;

<(d) Any act forbidding the possession, ownership, or use or transfer of a firearm, firearm accessory, or ammunition by law-abiding citizens; and

<(e) Any act ordering the confiscation of firearms, firearm accessories, or ammunition from law-abiding citizens

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Scale models of the coolest weapons

Scale modeling is the art of being nerdy enough about cool things to make bits of plastic look awesome. From full scale dioramas to single pieces the time and effort put into some of these things is beyond belief.

Pay your respects to your favourite weaponry and the autists who wanted a tiny version of it.

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/k/ music/poem thread

Post and discuss your favorite military tunes, cowboy ballads, etc etc. To also include poems, like it says on the tin.


Another favorite excerpt of mine from 'Horatius at the Bridge' to go with the webm:

With shield and blade Horatius right deftly turned the blow.

The blow, yet turned, came yet too nigh;

It missed his helm, but gashed his thigh:

The Tuscans raised a joyful cry to see the red blood flow.

He reeled, and on Herminius he leaned one breathing-space;

Then, like a wild-cat mad with wounds, sprang right at Astur's face.

Through teeth, and skull, and helmet so fierce a thrust he sped,

The good sword stood a hand-breadth out behind the Tuscan's head.

And the great Lord of Luna fell at that deadly stroke,

As falls on Mount Alvernus a thunder-smited oak.

Far o'er the crashing forest the giant arms lay spread;

And the pale augurs, muttering low, gaze on the blasted head.

On Astur's throat Horatius right firmly pressed his heel,

And thrice and four times tugged amain, ere he wrenched out the steel.

"And see," he cried, "the welcome, fair guests, that waits you here!

What noble Lucumo comes next to taste our Roman cheer?"

But at his haughty challenge a sullen murmur ran,

Mingled of wrath, and shame, and dread, along that glittering van.

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Alternate history meme thread

This a bread to discuss silly alt-history scenarios that would be nigh impossible from a physics standpoint but could still be fun to shitpost about for their sheer absurdity.

Anyhow I've been wondering how WW2 could've turned out if Thule society memesters had used ancient Annunaki magicks to open a 3x3m Stargate between Königsberg and Hsinking by pure luck just prior to the fall of France, allowing for the instantaneous transfer of men and materiel between Japan and Germany over a distance of some seven thousand kilometers.

How deeply would the German and Japanese militaries have cooperated in such an event?

At the minimum I can see the Nips abandon their plans to attack burgers in the Pacific assuming Nippon still gets sanctioned in favor of creating german-trained Tank battalions equipped with license-built Pz. IIIs for the purpose of doing a joint Barbarossa.

Ideally the Luftwaffe and IJN/IJAAS would conduct joint trials and arrange for Japanese aircraft to escort german bombers deep over British territory during the BoB, leading to Nips abandoning their turn fighter autism in favor of cannon-armed high speed energy fighters.

The Kriegsmarine could speed up construction on the Graf Zeppelin and train its crew on Japanese carriers in Asia while the Nips would get german aero engines amid a host of german aircraft designs to directly compare against their own.

Germans could import centimetric Radar from Nips while in turn fixing Japan's crappy AEW doctrine, Nips could sell Type 91 torpedoes to Germans in return for the J1N and Ki-45 getting FuG radar equipment and so on Mussolini would hopefully be too distracted by all the autism to invade Greece.

If word got out to the Allies would they try and stage a joint UK/US/USSR/Free French assault on East Prussia ASAP?

Would Burgers attack Nips preemptively in the Pacific and would Chinese civilians in Nip-conquered areas be less inclined to turn to Mao and other allied scum if the local japanese rape administration were swapped with friendly germans?

How long would german and japanese intelligence even be capable of hiding the Gate from glow in the darks?

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/k/ino thread

Post films you either enjoy or approve for gun-related reasons.

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Someone's playing Hitman in Germany

Target got no-scoped in a garden when he's in vacation, discovered after one day.

Suspect unidentified so far.

Props to whoever did this, I thought this kind of assassination has become myths now.

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New Atomhoneypot video of them magdumping and posing tough

What would you guess about their marksmanship level?

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Hypothetical Scenario

>Civil War

>Communists,Government Remanants and the Centerist-Right wing union are fighting

>You are a Captain of a fleet of 2 destroyers 1 frigate and a troop transport ship

>you have gathered some troops and civilians and you set up a base

on an island 45 miles form mainland

>you found your own nation with you as the dictator

>the island has one small dockyard capable of maintaining the existing fleet and mabye building a corvette or two if you gather up enough resources

>the island has to factories one making guns and ammo and the other making spare parts for aircraft

>there is a small airfeild on the island you have 11 F-16s,3 black hawk helicopters and 20 F-14s that were in store unmaintained and need to be refurbished to be usable again

>what would /k/ do next inthis situation

No allying with any of the factions allowed you stay neutral

Trade with other factions allowed

*pic urelated*

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Listen up fist nuts. I grew up around fists. I am a fist owner and a die hard fists amendment supporter. But it's time to ban semi-automatics fists, fully semi-automatics fists, proteins, assault fists with too many fists clips, shoulder things that go up, and fists designed to kill people. That's just common sense. After that you can have all the fists you want! After a thorough psychological evaluation, of course. And you can even go down to the local precinct to visit your fists under strict supervision whenever you want if you have a valid reason. Don't get me wrong. I'm all about the fists amendment. The right to bear fists is extremely important to me, but isn't time we abolish the fists amendment? Isn't it a little outdated? Well regulated martial arts. Why does anyone even need a fist? I'm not saying we ban fists. Fucking Christ you fist obsessed psychopaths, get a grip. Calm down, no one is coming for your fists. No one is saying ban all fists. I'm just saying that we ban the fists that can kill people. No one, and I repeat no one has ever suggested that we ban fists or abolish the fists amendment. I don't even know where you evil baby killing monsters come up with that one. No one is a bigger supporter of fist rights than me. Common sense. Why won't you compromise?

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510 days remain

Florida will ban assault weapons in 510 days

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Patriot has been developed in 70s, it's being improved coutless times and is still sold for millions.

The only relevant competition is the S-400 and Iron dome, which was developed in less than 4 years (but using same rockets as Patriot (it's all about sensors, data processing, and automated decisions))

I'm wondering: If I have friend who can print chips with wafers, another who does radar electronics and guidance systems, another who does propulsion, etc,

foregoing the $20m of R&D, what is stopping me from making my own AA system?

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Air Guns

I bought this .177 Stoeger S4000 for 99 bucks and got two things of pellets free (for purchasing with cash). Next gun store on my circuit had acquired an estate (they're still sorting through it) and they just gave me a box of air rifle pellets for free after I expressed interest when I was buying something else (it was in a big box, they were primarily reloading supplies and presumably needed room for the rest of the collection). Not all of them are sealed, and one container was empty.

Anything I should know? Never did air guns before, but I saw the rifle went for 160 online and wanted something suppressed without a stamp.

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USN cruiser and Russian destroyer nearly collide

No longer content to hit simple cargo vessels, the US Navy has advanced to attempting to use other militaries' ships to sink its Ticonderogas.


>Russia and the United States blamed each other for a near collision between their warships in the East China Sea on Friday with both countries accusing one another of dangerous and unprofessional behavior.

>Russia’s Pacific Fleet said that the USS Chancellorsville, a guided-missile cruiser, had come within just 50 meters (165 feet) of the Russian destroyer Admiral Vinogradov which had been forced to take emergency action to avoid a collision, Russian news agencies reported.

>They cited a Russian Pacific Fleet statement as saying the incident took place in the early hours of Friday morning in the eastern part of the East China Sea at a time when a group of Russian warships was on a parallel course with a U.S. naval strike group.

>“The U.S guided-missile cruiser Chancellorsville suddenly changed course and cut across the path of the destroyer Admiral Vinogradov coming within 50 meters of the ship,” the statement said.

>“A protest over the international radio frequency was made to the commanders of the American ship who were warned about the unacceptable nature of such actions,” it said.

>That version of events was rejected by the U.S. Navy, which said the behavior of the Russian ship had been “unsafe and unprofessional”.

>“While operating in the Philippine Sea, a Russian Destroyer…made an unsafe maneuver against USS Chancellorsville,” U.S. Seventh Fleet spokesman Commander Clayton Doss said.

>“This unsafe action forced Chancellorsville to execute all engines back full and to maneuver to avoid collision.”

>He described a Russian assertion that the U.S. ship had acted dangerously as “propaganda”. The Russian destroyer came within 50 to 100 feet of the Chancellorsville, he said, putting the safety of her crew and the ship at risk.

>The incident comes days after Washington and Moscow sparred over an allegedly unsafe spy plane intercept by a Russian fighter jet near Syria.

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Patch Thread

old thread finally died. Post your collections, make new designs and circlejerk about how rare your patch is (if you're into that sort of thing.)

pastebin of patch merchants: https://pastebin.com/cXZTGafD

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>Flecktarn or modox gear

>Steel/Kevlar helmet with "/k/" on sides or front

>/k/ related patches on carriers, hats or pauldrons (a la peace walker/mgs5)

>Visible 8 of diamonds or 4 of clubs

>Nationalist paraphernalia and flags

>Green, blue and/or purple tape/cloth around bicep



>STALKER memes

>"What time/day is it?"

1488/Day of the Rope




>Get a Baofeng Handheld Transceiver

High value radios with models to choose from (try to only use genuine units and accessories)

>License free band considerations:

"Lowest bandwidth and power settings possible"

No repeater use, antenna height and length restrictions


>MURS Ch3 151.940Mhz

US, Good from rural to urbanized locales

>FRS Ch3 462.6125MHz

US, Better for cities with tall buildings

>FREENET VHF Ch3 149.050Mhz

EU, use sparingly before SHTF as only fully legal in Germany

>PMR446 Ch3 446.03125MHz

EU, Basically FRS for Eubros.

>CB Ch3 26.985Mhz

HF freq, almost guaranteed daytime long range comms with proper setup.

>Get into /hamradio/ and get licensed.


Getting at least a tech license will remove the aforementioned limitations and allow for some HF, repeater use, and data tx


Everything you need to know for the tech test in video format with pdf in description

>Ham Test Prep

Free android test prep app from tech all the way to amateur extra if ya want


Find out what grows where and how, use farmer's markets for income and intel

>No land?

Grow small crops and herbs in pots

Find someone with land and sharecrop for a share of harvest.

>Grains, legumes, corn, potatoes, squash, roots, yams

Last longest when stored properly




>First aid

Dressings, rolled bandage, non stick gauze, petrolatum jelly, nitrile gloves

>Paper plates and cups


>Gold, silver and copper

>Water filtration and storage

amzn.com/B00QFXGSIY is high value, iodine, metal canteens.


Baby wipes, soap, bleach, iodine, detergent


batteries, solar cells, candles, charcoal, fire starters (dryer lint/sheets work)

>Construction aids

Shovels, full tang knives, pocket saws, etc

>Pots and pans for cooking

>Comfort items

Coffee, cheap liquor, cigarettes


Dessicant packs, Salt, vinegar, canning gear.




Start the breathing


check for breath, clear airway, seal airway, 2 breaths, 30 pumps

Stop the bleeding

clean, close and apply tourniquet if limb

Protect the wound

jelly, nonstick, dressing, bandage

Treat for shock

evac, legs/wound above heart, prevent sweat/chill, calm victim


>Get >>>/fit/: 2 mi/3km for time; calisthenics (push ups, squats,abs, etc) to failure at least 2x/week at minimum

A strong mind and body are the only weapons that can't be taken from you

>Get what you can afford and works for you.

Better one .22LR/NATO/combloc caliber gun, 10 mags and 1000 rounds than 100 meme caliber unicorns

>Live somewhere cucked?

Get sturdy sports equipment, construction tools and improvised firearms.

>High value, US MADE armor plate and carrier options



>Solvent Catch kits

Legal for weapons cleaning and eventually for wrol surpression.



if the bs "frozen site" jew pops up, just manually make the url match the above to bypass it


Don't say we didn't warn you

>Get to know radio operators in your area, check channel 3s at 9pm local or use the amrron soi

>use this thread to find nearby souls

>learn to use MGRS, android app "GPS Status" will convert to it

mytopo.com for custom high value 1:50k (6digit) maps


Ability to save local GZD, 100km^2 grid, and 2/4 digit maps, just set to MGRS/US Grid

>Learn a martial art or join a local sparring club like a boxing/mma gym

>Join or establish a militia or "survival clubs" depending on legality

aim for #s if can't into guns

>discuss different survival strategies to check personal readiness level

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Is the PAK army any good? When I was in the AF I did some training with the PAF and they seemed pretty squared away

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David Hahn’s “nuclear reactor”

So, I’ve heard many outlets refer to David Hahn’s “nuclear reactor” as a “breeder reactor” when it was more like a pile (second pic related), bevause in order to make a breeder reactor you would need a massive industrial project that would be worth the economy of an entire nation to afford and wouldn’t be possible for someone like him to hide from the authorities. But one part that confused me was the “gun” he made for the device. It was made from a Beryllium Copper strip (like a piece of film) with tritium waxed over it. First of all, I don’t see how this would work for many reasons, secondly I doubt that it even would work even if you somehow got the right amount materials in a sufficient enough quantity, because Beryllium copper is like 0.5 - 3% Beryllium and the Beryllium that nuclear facilities use is pure non-alloy Beryllium. And the fact that Tritium is a gas, not a wax. Does anyone know what the hell these media sources were talking about?

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Saber, and saber fencing thread

Sabers, saber fencing, sharpening, storage.

>Which fencing school is superior, and why it is Polish-Hungarian,

>Why (((they))) killed Laszlo Borsody in 1939 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/László_Borsody,

>Is gamey sports fencing actual fencing,

>Why Potop has the best fencing scene (you're swinging it like a flail), and why the fuck is movie so long holy shit,

>Is Cold Steel polish saber worth it, or a piece of 1.15kg 1055 trash,

>What to buy then, and why everything but chink shit is so expensive,

>Why moulinets are no good unless you are mounted, and is parry-repost a valid overpowering tactic,

>Is it better to have a sharpened saber (ready to go, can easily slaughter bottles, rolled mats and chalk zombie heads) or dull (good and safe for training, only need to invest in 350+N power mask for you and your sparring buddy), or two different ones,

and other interesting questions in this time's


Feel free to swing by.

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Jihadi John was killed by US drone strike after gait and angle of his beard gave him away

>A documentary being broadcast on Monday reveals for the first time details of how Jihadi John, whose real name was Mohammed Emwazi, was hunted down and killed in 2015 with the help of state-of-the-art tracking and identification technology. Colonel Steve Warren, the Pentagon spokesman at the time, tells the programme: 'Because of the conditions — it was night — we were using infrared. 'You can't see his face but we could sort of see how he moved, the cut of his jib, so to speak. The angle of his beard, these things we could see. 'Eventually we were convinced that this is Jihadi John. And so the floor commander at the time orders, 'Take the shot.'

>Drones had been searching for the ISIS terrorist for a year but any attempt to wipe him out was made difficult because he always surrounded himself with women and children and made sure he was in crowded areas. General Richard Barrons, former Commander Joint Forces Command, who was involved in the operation, told us: 'We identified Emwazi very quickly after the execution videos he appeared in but finding him was much harder because we did not have any people on the ground in Raqqa. 'The tracking was all done electronically but eventually, it was his beard and the way he walked that gave him away.'

>He first appeared in August 2014 when he killed American journalist James Foley. Officials at GCHQ knew within a matter of hours that it was Emwazi, establishing his identity through voice recognition technology and comparing the pattern of the veins in his left hand in which held a knife pointed directly towards the camera with images of him in archive photographs. GCHQ used recordings of his voice from previous wire taps taken during a three-year surveillance operation and compared it to the disguised voice used in the ISIS video. Emwazi's identity was not publicly confirmed until February 2015.

>Once the hunt for him was underway, Emwazi used his background as a former computer science student at Westminster University to evade American and British authorities. He used encryption programmes, private networks and wiped clean every computer he ever sent messages on. He was eventually discovered after he contacted his wife and child who lived in Iraq, kicks staring a year-long hunt. Douglas Wise, who helped oversee the CIA's Middle East operations, compared the mission to locate Emwazi to searching for a 'needle in a haystack full of needles.' He said: 'If he had any hope for survival he had to blend in to the citizens of Raqqa. He had to look from a distance just like them.'

>The programme also traces Emwazi's life in Britain after arriving as a six-year old from Kuwait and shows rare footage of his time at school. He attended Quintin Kynaston Community Academy, in St John's Wood, North London, where he was bullied for having bad breath and is filmed constantly holding his hand over his mouth. Emwazi had been under surveillance by MI5 until he disappeared in 2012, before emerging as the ISIS executioner dubbed 'Jihadi John' two years later. MI5 even made an unsuccessful attempt to recruit him as an informant before he fled to Syria.


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Automation thread

It's been a while since we had one, what would be the ideal build for a utilitarian vehicle preferably easily capable of recon and stealth for the civilian market.



>can go from 0-100km decently quick




>can haul a decent load


>easy to maintain and repair

>at least 10 or 11 kilometers per liter


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FBI Here

You are all under arrest.


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/K/ommando kills qouta during confiscation

The gunman who shot and killed Davis Police Officer Natalie Corona Thursday night has been identified as Kevin Douglas Limbaugh, a 48-year-old man who was ordered last fall to surrender a semiautomatic rifle after he was convicted in a battery case.

Yolo County Superior Court records show Limbaugh was charged in September with battery with serious bodily injury, a incident that a source said stemmed from him punching a co-worker at Cache Creek Casino in the face after a dispute.

The case was resolved as a misdemeanor conviction, and California Department of Justice records show he agreed to surrender a black .223-caliber Bushmaster AR-15 rifle in November.

Court records also show Limbaugh did not possess any other weapons, and authorities have yet to determine where he obtained the two semiautomatic handguns he is believed to have used in a Thursday night rampage that killed the 22-year-old officer and shot up a surrounding downtown neighborhood.

Davis police had refused to release the name of the gunman, but the Yolo County coroner confirmed his identity Saturday after The Bee published Limbaugh’s name.

Leftover Halloween decorations still hang on the gate outside his front door – a green and black “Beware” sign and a plastic skull.

Kevin Douglas Limbaugh documents 011219


An unsightly brown tarp was pulled tight across the fence in the front yard Saturday, and potted plants that have long been neglected sit below the front window. A calico kitten could be seen moving around inside the home, but there was no sign of other occupants.

“It’s a good group of people who live there,” said Grace, another neighbor who asked that her last name not be used. “It’s unfortunate what happened.”

Down the block, within eyesight of the small house, the Corona family gathered at the shrine marking the spot where Corona was shot and killed Thursday night, crying and holding on to each other.

Volunteers walked down Fifth Street early Saturday tying blue ribbons around every tree, including the old, gnarled tree that stands directly outside Limbaugh’s home.

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Aesthetic Uniforms thread

Hello /k/ in your opinion what uniform is the most aestheticly pleasing? In my opinion I say that the uniform of the katanga gendarmerie and the uniforms that the u.s wore during the vietnam war.

So post cool looking uniforms and explain why they look cool.

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Nigger knockers

Post and discuss blunt force weapons

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Shotfun thread

Post and discuss modern blunderbusses, shotgun tactics, recommendations, etc.

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Homemade weapons thread

Last thread reached bump limit. Post homemade weaponry, instructions and projects. This is not limited to just firearms.

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2019 Summer Infinity Cup


The Infinity Cup is returning once again, and 8chan's boards will be fighting it out on the pitch to claim divegrass supremacy. As a board that has participated in the Cup at one point or another in its history, you are invited to the reveal stream for 2019 Summer edition of the Cup. On Saturday June 22nd, at 3 PM EDT/7 PM UTC, on cytu.be/r/8cup I'll be giving you guys an early look at the Cup's 5th edition, which will include revamped aesthetics, team stadiums and other quality of life improvements I've figured out how to do in PES 17. Hopefully this will get anons back on board with the Cup, considering it has struggled mightily since its 2nd incarnation.

So how is it going to go down? I'll be staging a couple of exhibition matches between teams using their rosters from the last Cup, and we'll shitpost our merry way through the stream. Once the stream ends, entries will be open for the Cup, and boards can start putting together/editing their rosters and kits. Entries will close in early July, the field will be determined, and the Group Draw will take place approximately a week before the Cup kicks off in August. I'm also hoping to possibly introduce managers for the Cup, although I'm still working out the details to keep this from devolving into a namefag dick measuring contest. I hope you all will tune in, and in case you aren't caught up on your board's history, I've provided some links below to get you caught up:




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Can we talk SHTF rations, /k/? The standard meme prepper go-to is MRE's or canned goods but these have their own flaws. Are they decent options with downsides, or is there something far more versatile and worthwhile for SHTF?

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Canadian Gun Grab by Executive Order Incoming



>party that put its own citizens in concentration camps at gunpoint wants to ban guns for "your" safety.

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/k/ NBC

There are some good bits of NBC weapon information scattered throughout 8 /k/. This thread is to collect it all into one place. Ideas and concepts for weapons are also welcome.

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The Knife Thread.

A hub for people with a taste for knives.

Will answer questions and give insight on knives, since I've been collecting for a long time , using knives in the outdoors and practicing knife-related martial arts.

Will not bother with the retarded sub-types and mall ninjas and teens like those found on cuckchan.

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Karl LARPing as a comedian again

>it's another Karl thinks he's funny episode again while Dugan is forced to half-heartedly join in because he doesn't want to upset Karl and get hexed

CarniK Con died for our sins

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We discuss what he did wrong

This dude's kill score was dismal. What could he have done differently? Better training? Better guns? More than one gun a la Tarrant?

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Helicopter Cruisers

Does a business in the front party in the back helicopter cruiser have a place in a modern navy? Bringing a fuck ton of coventional firepower and 8 medium helicopters seems like it would be useful for supplementing a fleet and gives it a flexible mission plan.

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Romanian coastguard opens fire on Turkish fishermen

>3 fishermen were injured and 5 others were detained after the Romanian coast guard opened fire on a boat that was allegedly fishing illegally in the Black Sea, according to the Romanian border police, the Hürriyet Daily News reported on Wednesday

Even the fucking romanians are shooting at them. Why the fuck haven't we done anything yet? This is pissing me off, /k/.


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Questionable endeavours in military technology

This is a bread to discuss military concepts, prototypes and final products apart from everyone's favorite 5th gen multirole fighter following questionable theories/doctrines with great investment put behind them only to end up as massive wastes of time, money and resources for everyone involved.

What was the RLM thinking when they not only wanted to make a strategic bomber, but make it an dive glidebomber so it needs to be twin engined because drag except we don't have any engines powerful enough so let's put two DB601s in each nacelle sharing a single propeller through an autistically complicated gearbox while negating any potential advantages regarding engine redundancy on top of creating considerable difficulties in engine cooling.

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Boeing should give 737max lemons to Pentagon! :)

No one is every gonna wanna fly commercial on these things, ever.

But Boeing is locked into churning them out for next decade or so.

Most of the problem is "weight balance" issue, so if modded for US Govt use, that would be solved by addition/subtraction of various equip.

737 is currently being used as our newest anti-sub aircraft.

Boeing owes US Govt big time, and I'm sure the Pentagon could always find lots of use for even stock commercial version of 737max.

MAYBE, after a few years of military testing and few thousand takeoffs and landings, civilian airliners might re-consider.

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Conceal Carry Style

Hey /k/, what style do you guys usually conceal carry with?

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Thinking about buying my first lever action

I've been looking at getting a henry .22 but I am considering henry purely because of the name brand and I don't know other manufacturers. What other companies are good that also make .22 lever actions. I want that 'old west' look so no synthetic stocks or ugly woodland cammo. No I am not buying a larger caliber because I plan on using this for fun range days and for squirrel hunting. Henry is selling pic related for $283. Is this reasonable?


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Proper gun age for children

A couple of minutes ago I watched a video of a Demotard gifting his barely 5yo son a fucking .22lr bolt action. Which has upset me, a pro-gun Strelok, and also a father, on a very deep level. While I like the idea of "Getting them early" and whatever other shit may be falling out of someone's mouth, I have considered 5 to be a little fucking downright head-into-woodchipper retarded.

In the video, the kid is clearly faking interest and excitement. When asked "what do you like the most about gunshops?", poor boy responds "Puppies". While they have managed to hit quite a few shots (the demofaggot didn't even give his son the first shot - just a small detail , but hints that he probably bought this for himself when his 5 (I repeat, FIVE) year old boy eventually drifts off his goldfish attention span on to something he can safely take and fuck off playing in the corner, without supervision), and the boy expressed mildly enthusiastic desire to shoot more, it's clear as day that this was not what he expected on his fucking 5th birthday.

<So what the fuck do you suggest, 18?

No. For the normal child, without excessive interest in funs, 12. For a very enthusiastic child - maybe 8-10, depending on interest and discipline. At this age boys, to my experience, start being interested in gun roleplay with nerfshit / audiovisual gun toys, and the age is perfect to forge a long lasting interest. While giving a gun to a boy of 5 will only make him get tired of that gun very soon, as most kids lose interest in their toys overtime in the 3 to 8 period, and we will get a boomer / fudd in the making, with at most, a mild interest in funs, with no will to fight for it, or git gud even.


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The absolute state of the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria

>SDF can't conquer the remaining 2.5 square centimeters of ISIS territory for months on end

>burgers unwilling to give much support beyond botnetting and political posturing ever since Assad managed to grab Bukamal

>Russia pulls out of 5 ceasefire+protection deals regarding Afrin back in january

>Kurds deny all of them as the purveyors of global democracy will surely aid their greatest proxy warriors against any insect incursions

>The Roach invades, burgers do nothing

>Afrin falls into Roach hands within a month

>Kurd gorilla warfare still ongoing there

>SDF decaying internally as incompetent Arabs with no promise of American gibs can't capture the last bit of ISIS territory

>burgers still do nothing outside of rambling about fighting ISIS and protecting democracy or some shit

>Russia negotiates angry Roaches into not liberating Idlib in exchange for a DMZ

>Deir ez Zor military council Arab "soldiers" still haven't captured the last few ISIS villages

>ISIS counterattacks and drives them off the Syria-Iraq border, burger air support is nowhere to be seen

>King Roach shells border towns and is beginning to hire TFSA niggers for an operation east of the Euphrates

As retarded as the DFNS may be I can't really see them side with the US any longer if Erdogan goes through with an invasion of the Syrian Kurd "mainland".

How does /k/ expect this shitshow to end?

Personally I expect the YPG/SDF owned territory to descend into its own civil war if they don't side with Assad at some point in the near future, the Arabs there only remain docile through US financial injections and would be more than willing to change sides once those dry up.

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Gun Confiscation

what will actual, real life gun confiscation look like if/when the 2nd amendment is removed from the constitution?

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Technical Thread I Guess

Alright /k/unts, so I acquired a belt fed semi auto to supplement my RPK as a support weapon. I was wondering what you fags thought would be the best setup for a technical. First pic related shows my incredibly basic technical setup. Standard UK59 mount in AA configuration in the bed with sandbags to stop recoil from moving the gun back. Benefits are that it has a 360 degree free hand traverse range and 110 degree free hand elevation range. Downsides are that it takes up the whole bed, leaving little room for other guys in the back and its not a quick detach mount, so I would have to expose myself to fire to dismount the gun.

My plan involves attaching a ladder rack or tube frame (both front and back) to the truck and then having the UK facing forwards and the RPK facing rearwards. The traverse and elevation range would be harmed but there would be more room for men, since the center of the bed is now freed. There would also be no need for sand bags to stop the recoil as the rack wouldn't move like the mount does. Two or even three men could sit in the central area between the two gunners. Overall, what do you think I should do to improve the concept?

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Spiritual War and it in the Modern World

This is a thread to discuss the spiritual side of war, war as a spiritual path.

I know a little about this subject, so to kickstart discussion I will post Evola's take on the value of war in the four ages. If I get anything wrong or I don't enter in enough detail please explain further or correct me.

In the Golden Age, war is seen as a path towards transcendance, a way to reach the divine, it is seen as a positive. It is waged for such reasons on top of material ones. Similar to the Jihad of muslim thought. Honestly this stage is the least I know of so if someone can explain it better please do so. Tying in to this, I remember Evola explaining how through aproaching death, or other extreme conditions (though only in a specific way) one can reach Transcendental Realism, which I really can't explain either.

In the Silver Age, war is degraded from spiritual to more material concerns. It is fueled by loyalty to the King, or to the Nation, and such things. It may retain in this stage a semblance of spirituality.

In the Bronze Age, it has fallen down to defending the population of the state (only), to bring prosperity to it, and is seen as a tragedy, a "necesary evil", and while serving is still a honor, many would see it as a negative and to be avoided (iirc from this stems the implementation of compulsion in it, where in past ages, while compulsion still existed, the view on it was very different). Still, it remains within a nation and still retains some sort of loyalty to something, though the loyalty has shifted to a more mundane thing.

In the Iron Age, Evola predicted the complete abandonment of the idea of nation and it centering on purely economic matters. He gave the example of the communist revolution being such a war, though it has turned out that the iron war didn't manifest in such a way. While it did exist for a while as the communist revolution, a much better example would be the complete mechanization of war, removing Man from it, together with the waging of them for economic reasons (e.g. USA and Oil Wars). War shifted from being for the prosperity of the people to the stable existance of the economic system, or for the interests of corporate magnates.

All of this is accompanied by the constant devaluation and degeneration of military institutions (a modern example would be the forcing of women into the structure).

The use of "Age" might be confusing. There isn't a sharp boundarie between the ages, but as a constant existance (though periods can be roughly spearated), rather a "state" than a period of time. It being so, one can find events of one Age in a time where there is other, in the shape of renmants of a previous age -the crusades very much had a spiritual part to them- or of "pioneers" of a coming one -the communist revolution, of Iron, which happened on the Bronze Age, and, argueably, the Fascists/NS, which could be seen as a remnant of the gold age or a pioneer of the coming one-.

Another point is that War having one aspect doesn't bar it from having a lower one too, as such, Golden War has a national, an economic, and a material angle. (I'm not really sure about this though, how does fighting for the Race or for the Nation tie into this? Perhaps there is a spiritual component to such that I'm not aware of)

Now given this, it becomes obvious that one cannot come to War as a Path in modern, mainstream institutions -all of them being bronze or iron-. One can either follow it individually inside one of these organizations, or forming or joining of a sort of "traditionalist warband".

This is only one aspect of spiritual war though, so as not to give the thread tunnel vision.

While it would be nice to see the Murder/k/ube discussed in this topic, I would prefer it to be aproached seriously so the thread doesn't become shitposting.

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Based Regiments?

I'll list a few

The Don Cossacks during Ivan The Terrible's reign

Prussian Deaths Head Hussars

The Italian Arditi (Likely The First Special Forces)

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Complete Firearm Blueprints

There is a fuck ton of firearms blueprints on the net, but there seems to be few complete blueprints. So lets start a thread for Anons to post complete blueprints in.

Lets start with the Browning 1919A4 Machine gun.

Please note that there are 26 sets of blueprints for this weapon, not including the 11 different sets of blueprints for the M2 .30 cal tripod.

This will take a while to upload due to the anti-flooding feature.

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Russia military

How is Russia even military relevant in the world? Their economy is trash and their tech is horrible. It is truly an amazing thing that they are still a major player in world militarizes today. They must be the most militarist country, of size, in the world, since they have nothing but their military going for them. The resources are good, but resource based economies are not strong anymore.

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Bring GPMG back to fireteam level!

Just to shit on America even more, Russians came out with a 7.62 NATO general purpose machine gun that's better than M60.

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Trump picks anti-gunner to lead ATF


After William "Ruby Ridge" Barr, I'm not surprised.

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what's /k/'s favourite army doctorine

let's have a discussion about modern land army doctorines

(pic unrelated)

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Cartel raiding a rival mechanic shop

So, they certainly won the engagement by all means, but what went wrong and what went right? And how would you defend against this kind of attack?

Whatever enemy they were facing, they weren't able to counter anything of the attacker, which makes them lucky.

They should have while the supressive fire is still ongoing, have their spiclets dismount and immediately go into the compound as staying in their vehicles for this long could have spelled disaster for them were the enemy to be in better shape.

To defend against this kind of attack would be intelligence, a guy standing somewhere on the streets which go toward the compound with means to communicate that there is a bunch of bandidos incoming.

I say this as you can't have armed guards standing around on the rooftops, the authorities would notice and take you on.

Those are my thoughts on that, it looked like a slaughter. If the defenders would have any means of defence the attackers would have been in serious trouble.

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Need advice

Recently the government in my country is lifting gun control a little bit, these are the ones they allow right now, that being said, can the /k/ experts tell me about the ups and downs of them? of course I will be doing my research too but I also trust your experience.

Glock 9x19

Jericho 941F

Semi P2226 Tacops


Pietro Bereta 92FS

Herstal FNP9

SIG SAUER P250 Small

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First Handgun Ideas?

So, recently I've become old enough to purchase a handgun and I'm looking for some advice on a good model. Right now a few that I like are

>M9 (of course)



Any thoughts on what I should try as my first? I want something that'll last a good few years and preferably either 9mm, .380, or .40

Also I'm not very much an expert on handguns at all so any advice on parameters like ergonomics, consistent firing, sights, durability, etc. is much appreciated anon

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Say you were in Canada and you wanted to purchase a large number of guns for your hunting group. What would be most efficient?

In general I'm seeing that the SKS is the cheapest gun in Canada (I am in NS). At my current wage I could probably purchase a single SKS each month.

Is there any cheaper way? Say, old shitty bolt actions for 100$ a piece or a bulk order?

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ATF Hate Thread

Has any /k/unts ever met an ATF agent or have any friends that work for them? At this point the ATF is one of the universally despised and useless federal agencies and even normies are starting to become aware of this. The only normies that still hold on to the ATF are the CNN watching pedo libtards and bi-sexual dumb cunts that see the darling stars of the liberal media bust into an illegal mexicans drug house where he likely has firearms that would warrant the ATF to also be involved.

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Flintenweiber for the 21st century

It is well-known that Soviet female soldiers were capable of fighting a war, following rules of engagement, etc. It is not easy to confirm that they were as good as men for surviving a harsh battlefield environment, carrying heavy packs, etc.

Oddly, the USA, the PRC, and the CIS all follow a "modern" mindset and thus believe that women should be available as warfighters. Why have modern female warfighters failed to produce results as good as the Flintenweiber of World War 2?


With 12 air victories, fighter pilot Lidya Litvyak was the best female hotshot not only of WWII, but of all times. She was killed in action on August 1, 1943, when she was only 21.

Yekaterina Budanova was female ace number 2, and a friend of Lidiya Litvyak. She is credited with 11 victories. Budanova never saw the end of the war, since she was killed in 1943 at the age of 26.

Shortly after the start of WWII, Maria Oktyabrskaya sold all her possessions to donate toward acquiring a tank for the war effort. She christened the tank “Fighting Girlfriend,” and received a personal allowance from Stalin to become its driver mechanic, the first woman in the world who became such. Maria Oktyabrskaya was fatally wounded in northern Belorussia in 1944, when she was 38.

The first woman decorated as a Hero of the Soviet Union during WWII, Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya acted as a saboteur in the German rear. She was caught, tortured and hanged on November 21, 1941, when she was only 18. Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya became one of the most popular symbols of the Nazi resistance in the Soviet Union.

Natalya Meklin was a link commander in the famous 46th Guards Night Bomber Regiment, widely known as the “Night Witches.” She completed 980 combat missions. Successfully surviving the war, Meklin died in 2005 at the age of 82.

Credited with 309 kills, Lyudmila Pavlichenko is regarded not only as sniper number 1 among women, but also as one of the best snipers overall. In 1942 she visited the USA as a part of a Soviet delegation and met President Franklin Roosevelt. Pavlichenko died in 1974 at the age of 58.

A link commander in the “Night Witches” regiment, Tatyana Makarova was killed in action on August 25, 1944, in the skies over Poland. She was 23 years old.

Female tank operator Alexandra Samusenko was a T-34 tank commander and the only woman deputy commander of the tank battalion. The 23-year-old Samusenko died of wounds on March 3, 1945.

Soviet sniper Roza Shanina was known for her capacity of […] hitting two targets with two rounds fired in quick succession. Before she was killed at the age of 20 on January 28, 1945, Shanina eliminated 59 enemy soldiers and officers.

The most senior female sniper, Nina Petrova was 46 when the Great Patriotic War started. She voluntarily joined the army and managed to eliminate 122 enemy soldiers during the whole period. She died in a car crash on the very eve of victory – May 1, 1945.


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leftie salt bread

Post Christchurch salt.

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New Zealand fugged

Press F for respect

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Bolton: US deploying carrier strike group and bomber task force as warning to Iran

>Move aims to send a clear message to Iran that any attack on U.S. interests or its allies will be met with 'unrelenting force,' U.S. national security adviser said

>Amid rising tensions between the US and Iran, Bolton said the decision was 'in response to a number of troubling and escalatory indications and warnings'

>'The United States is not seeking war with the Iranian regime, but we are fully prepared to respond to any attack, whether by proxy, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps or regular Iranian forces,' Bolton said in a statement.



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What guns did the shooter use?

What guns did Brenton Tarrant use during the shooting? I found a pic of one of them.

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/k/ Spook Digging Thread: Northern Nevada Edition

Archive of previous thread- Anon's uncle provided a bunch of info, very well worth reviewing.


There are three stories from Northern Nevada, two within rather close proximity of one another. I've done some digging and I think I've narrowed it down quite a bit.

Based on the description, we should be able to find a few abandoned mine shafts on the eastern side of the Ruby mountains.

>Per one UNR source, there should be two abandoned shafts in the vicinity of, both for tungsten.

>Cross-referencing that against their database for documents involving tungsten mines/claims in Elko county produced quite a few results.

>One definite tungsten mine location is by Battle Creek. The Battle Creek location is ~20 miles south of where we were looking, but it does have the crook in the road as described E Zed. The trees are there as described, but I can't see a structure or a giant rock. The topography isn't an exact match either.

>A website that tracks mining claims, places 4 potential entrances within a few hundred yards, but not at the particular location that E Zed indicated.

> There is also a second hook in the road on the other side, but it doesn't exactly match the description either.

If OP wasn't 100% accurate in his recollection, I would argue this would be a good place to start. The Northern location has proved much harder to locate, which will be addressed in the next post.

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Home Fortifications

>civil war has started

>antifa,alt-right and the remnants of the government are fighting

>you are neutral

>you have ak 47 and 5 30 round mags

>you have enough mre's tolast you 3 months

>plenty of materials to fortify since there's rubble evreywhere

>you have to fortify your house

how will /k/ fortify it's house in this situation

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Mass stabbing in Kawasaki leaves 14 injured and at least two feared dead

>At least two people, including a child, were feared dead after a mass stabbing in Kawasaki on Tuesday morning left an additional 14 people — including 13 elementary schoolgirls — injured, with five of them seriously hurt, the local fire department said.



>"Look at Japan where they banned guns! No dead kids!"

t.Stacy Soccermom (IL)

Let this serve as a reminder that banning guns won't stop madmen from wielding knives and killing primary school aged girls. The Japanese government should feel ashamed for not allowing citizens the basic god given right of defending oneself and his family. This could have been prevented had there been at least one guy with a handgun, willing to take a shot to save the children.

Also post incidents where the presence of a law abiding citizen could have saved lives.

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Psychological warfare

With the onset of the newfriends from the FBI and those who watch the news,

I find it fitting we have a thread where we post redpills, infographics, gun control and the such.

Perhaps even flip a few agents in the process. That young guy in the news video had a very smug look on his face. He knows.

First of all,

The holocaust didn't happen

Just wait for our resident jew to get in here

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you've been organizing the operation for months, now its time for shit to go down. what song plays in the background?

>music thread


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Is there a point to having an army in western europe?

1) Basically all of western Europe is in NATO, meaning none of the countries there neighbour any potential aggressor. Russia would first need to barrel through Poland in order to get to Germany and France, for example.

2) Most of european militaries are a complete joke that wouldn't even slow down the enemy.

3) All of them count on US to do the fighting.

4) Despite the sad state of the military, it still manages to eat up massive amounts of money every year as well as features one of the most corrupt sectors in almost any country.

With these facts in mind, is there even a point for a western European country to have any army whatsoever? Their armies are incapable of doing anything useful (except maybe pretending they're doing something in Afghanistan and syria so that the US can pretend it's not there alone), they are irrelevant when it comes to combatting foreign aggression, they are not threatened by any of its neighbours and they have the US to do any fighting for them should Russia try getting there through Poland. So why not ditch the army entirely? Just dissolve all of it and use the money more constructively, send all the troops into the private sector to fuel the economy, and sell all the left over hardware for a quick buck.

Alternatively, they could increase military spending to actually make their army useful for something, at which point it might be worth keeping, but they don't seem too keen on doing that.

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gunstore owners

Why are gunstore owners such pricks? I have yet to walk into a gunstore where the owners aren't humongous assholes for no fucking reason. They ignore customers, they get indignant when you ask questions, they get pissy if you want to compare, even asking for basic fucking directions elicits groans. All the shops near my house are like this, I thought it was just a WA thing, but I got o OR and it's the same fucking thing.This wouldn't be a problem if they didn't charge outrageous fucking prices on their shit.

How do these places even stay business?

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jk lol

it's been 2 months since they've given an update, with still no ship dates or confirmation of completed rifles. Last time they crawled out of their hole and started posting again was because Commie Ian called them out and they had to damage control. Then they said they'd be reaching out to pre-orders to confirm FFL's, but they are still "waiting on parts".

Now it's 2 months later and not a peep.

But rest assured, it's coming Soon

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homemade chemical weapons

do you guys know anything about making improvised chem wepaons i already know about bleach and amonia to get chlorine gas i'm just asking out of curiosity

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Any gunsmiths on here?

So I’ve been interested in impro-guns for a while and came up with some patents for gun mechanisms and designs that are so crude that anybody with even the most basic of knowledge of guns would be able to understand. In California and Europe, many gangs are making guns, but the most disarmed group of people are the average population. Only a very tiny amount of Europeans (outside of Switzerland) even own a gun, thanks to their governments. So what I’ve decided to do is come up with a few designs and see what you guys think of them.

>a .32 ACP semi-automatic pistol that’s modeled after pic related (Ruger MK IV), but with a nail gun that’s small and compact enough to fit inside the mag well to act as both the striker and to attach your trigger into through a small hole in the frame/nail gun with a flat, sturdy metal rod that’s silver (the desired gun I have in mind is all silver) that’s bent downwards at the front end with a semicircular groove going upwards to provide the trigger grip, with the trigger action being a backward pull into the hole in the nail gun that connects to the inner trigger mechanism which will shoot a nail into the primer of each bullet, with the action of the extractor slide going upwards, as a backwards action could result in the nail becoming shrapnel to the shooter, and also so that the nail and spent cartridge casing will be projected downwards, falling to the ground after each shot.

>a .22 BB/CB (possibly .22 short?) semi-automatic pistol made out of a staple gun, that is made by soldering a screw in front of the metal plate housed within the top of the staple gun that pushes each staple through the hole in front (the staple gun should be metal, preferably silver in color) to serve as the firing pin, tightening the springs and pins so much to where the trigger on the back when pushes barely moves more than an inch, as that should be enough to strengthen to snap into the forward action so that you don’t have to push it all the way in with each shot and still have a comfortable, steady grip around the trigger/frame, and loaded with a thin tubular magazine that’s small enough to fit inside the metal slot where you insert the staples in (this is why I’d recommend using .22 BB/CB ammunition), and attaching a barrel through the hole after widening it enough so that it fits and the barrel is chambered for the right kind of ammunition you’re using, and since the part where the staples come in and out are so close, you should have no problems with chambering each round.

>a simple flamethrower made out of a caulking gun. Use an aerosol can spray, take off the plastic cap so that you only have the needle nozzle, place it in there, tighten the plunger to the rear of the van, push it up tightly to the front, take a piece off a wire coat hanger with an elbow shape bent into it and attach it to the frame of your caulking gun with either electric tape or perhaps a hose clamp, attach a cotton candle wick to the coat hanger piece that will hold the flame (because they burn slower), and then light the wick and pull the trigger to shoot the flame (NOTE: I’d recommend using anything with paraffin in it since that shit is highly flammable and should give you a pretty healthy sized flame, also I’d advise against using matches since they’re unpredictable, and if you have a spool of it, you could tie the cotton candle wick around the metal wire piece instead of taping it).

Any other ideas?

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Healthy meals on the go

We all know MREs exist but they're full of preservatives and shit, nothing you really want in your body long term. If you were designing some on the go meal packages for a SHTF scenario what would you make?

Assume you have a week to prepare. You have access to any ingredients you can find in your local super market. You need to make a months worth of food or at least a breakfast and evening meal.

<Spaghetti and minced beef with cheese and tomatoes x 1 month is not a viable answer. You need multiple options

Hard mode : Vegan or Vegetarian options

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F35 lost over pacific ocean

A Japanese F35-A has been lost over the pacific ocean.

Right now it is unknown where the plane even is. A crash is the most likely outcome at this point, as no airbase has reported an F35 emergency landing anywhere.

This is the second time an F35 was lost. Last year an F35-B of the USA crashed in Beaufort SC due to a failure in the fuel flow system.

Source: https://theaviationist.com/2019/04/09/japanese-f-35-lightning-ii-stealth-aircraft-reported-missing-over-the-pacific-ocean/



RIP Nip-bro.

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outsmarting atf and tsa

Question for Anons. I was planning on going on a vacation to eastern Europe next year and I wanted to know the ins and outs of getting a firearm sent home if i found something neat. I am aware of how the FFL6 works and the crap I would need to do.

I was thinking of sending the parts separate and the receiver in some metal trash antique i can find. Both to a PO Box in a alias.

Any ideas on how to mail a broken down rifle home without much risk? I have no interest in anything that would illegal to own and what i could find. Finding some milsurp from WW2 would be neat. Everything in the US costs a fortune.

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USAF Light Attack aircraft Program thread

USAF Light Attack aircraft Program thread


Sounds like USAF weenies are stalling, probably because they feel this is now beneath them, and they are all wanting to join Trump's new Space Farce. I say take that part of the budget and give it to US Army and USMC (light attack should be able to land on USMC helicopter carriers).

Maybe USA should just buy Su-25/28 from Georgian FSU factory! First time in history airplane bombs factory where it was built! :)

" In early August 2008, Russian Su-25s attacked the Tbilisi Aircraft Manufacturing plant, where the Su-25 is produced, dropping bombs on the factory's airfield.[47]"

SU-25/28 from Georgia, USSR today probably cheaper than a Cessna "light attack" will be after USAF weenies get done padding the expenses with US based factory.

How about ULTRA-light attack? http://www.sunflightcraft.com/en/paraplane_whatis1.php sure beats humping that backpack on foot. I'm pretty sure these can land on any terrain no problem as well as any paratrooper with the added advantage of being able to pick you spot and take-off again almost anywhere. Cheap, too.

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Drones in Guerilla Warfare

ITT we discuss the application of civilian/commercial tier drones in guerilla tactics against conventional armed forces. Known uses, potential uses, device types and configurations, what would be the ideal set up under $X dollar amount etc.

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ITT: things you predicted in /k/ before they existed/were publically announced

>maritime strike MiG-31

>launching hypersonic anti-ship missiles

Called it before 2015. The moment hypersonic anti-ship missiles were confirmed MiG-31 seemed like an ideal launching platform and as a matter of fact I was dumbfounded that an anti-ship K variant for the MiG-31 haven't existed for the last three decades.

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Hey /k/ anyone know of good semi-auto shotguns, I've been seeing a lot of AR style shotguns and I'm wondering if there are any reliable platforms with available parts/mags?

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International Orange - X Planes and Early Spacecraft

I miss this era so much. There was constant experimentation with different aircraft designs- lifting bodies, flying platforms, hover saucers, inflatable aircraft. Not to mention the space race itself.

Why can't we have this sort of experimentation now days? Why are stuck funding shit like the F-35 Deathtrap?

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Boots Thread

I'm getting a bit of heel lift with my current pair (Swiss KS90s)–can't go next size down, it's too small. Are there insoles, or some special lacing technique, I can use to mitigate this?

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Aus General - /k/angaroos

>Want you get your firearms license, but don't know how?


>/k/angaroo recommended firearms:


>/k/angaroos honeypot:


(Remember to post your State/Territory - Kiwis are welcome too. No internationals at all)


>GCA and Medics for gun control host circlejerk panel


>Police Sniper suing NSWPOL


>Duck Shooters in NZ will be barely affected, go kill those little bastards


>Lobby group wants transparency and an actual say, instead of being shit on and ignored



>What you've been shooting

>Going on the hunt/Innawoods

>S.S.A.A. and the Fudd Conspiracy

>As usual, fuck Melbourne and may it be hit by nukes

We encourage our Kiwibros to take part in the discussion. After all, you lads were hit hard, just like we were in 96.

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Was the united states lacking good artillery during the Vietnam war? I seen all the talk about the m14 and m16, but I don't hear about the main killer in wars.Also do you think we should have used actual chemical weapons for the jungle

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China and Vietnam

Does anyone have any insight on how China and Vietnam size up to each other militarily? Just looking online I found

>China has 2,035,000 active military personnel (510,000 reserve)

>Vietnam has 482,000 active military personnel (5,000,000 reserve)

I've also heard people claim the Chinese Coast Guard alone could successfully take on Vietnam's Navy, and I'd assume the PLAN is leagues ahead of Vietnam in terms of Naval power. Just how would a conflict between China and Vietnam play out? How further ahead is China in terms of military technology? Does Vietnam get any support from the US nowadays?

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Alright /k/iggers

Whats the best bolt action rifle?

I see a lot talk about bolt actions as one of the perfect guns, and with reason too

Nugget, SMLE, Kar98, Remington, ArcticWarfare, CheyTac, etc

In you opinion, whats the best?


If you could make the perfect bolt action, what would it be?

Would it have a fixed mag? If it had a mag, would it be a rock in, or a straight? Would it have a stripperclip guide, or would it not even need one? Would you have rails for optics & mall-ninja shit? Would it have a bayonet or would it have bayonet? You have no choice in having a bayonet or not

My opinion?

I don't really have one

I do really like bolt actions for how simple they are, so I don't like how most can't be taken down & totally stripped easily, no tools is the best in guns

I like the SMLE, I wish the stocks were longer though, fucking stubby brit arms, I know chickenwings were popular, but god damn, gimme an inch

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Looking for Polack anons

I'm interested in translating gun statistics and propaganda into Polish with the intent of distributing it into Polish online communities and raising support for more liberal(liberal meaning unrestricted, why are we letting the kikes control the language we use?), but being an ameriburger I don't speak a word of Polish.

Would any Polish anons be willing to help?

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Vigilante Loadout

You want to fight crime but you dont want to increase gun crime statistics. What do you use?

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/k/ and the paranormal/weird things

What weird experiences have you had while adventuring in the night hours /k/? Met any mysterious wooly creatures or had unknown noises spook you while camping? Every run into something you don't think bullets could kill?


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BB gun against car vandals

I park my car right in front of my apartment and there are always drug addicts slashing my tires, keying my car, breaking my windows etc. If I got a CO2 BB pistol and shot these guys in the face from inside my apartment, would I go to prison? I don't really want to kill anyone, I just want them to GTFO of my driveway and not come back. I live in AZ btw

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ATF raid in L.A. 1000 firearms


still no thread for this so fuck it making one myself

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/ak/ thread: Rally is White Now


>Only one /ak/ thread allowed at a time. No exceptions.

We haven't had one for quite some time and there's no duplicates. Containment thread for animated /k/ material; no chinks allowed.

Starting with some winged fusiliers art from @asterisk_kome

*: White as in how Michael Jackson was white

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Cheap Chinese Rockets Obsoleting US Assets in Asia

>At November’s biennial air show in the southern city of Zhuhai, the biggest state-owned missile maker, China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation Ltd, screened an animation showing a hostile “blue force,” comprising an aircraft carrier, escort ships and strike aircraft, approaching “red force” territory. On a giant screen, the animation showed a barrage of the Chinese company’s missiles launched from “red force” warships, submarines, shore batteries and aircraft wreaking havoc on the escort vessels around the carrier. In a final salvo, two missiles plunge onto the flight deck of the carrier and a third slams into the side of the hull near the bow.

>The fate of the ship is an unmistakable message to an America that has long dominated the globe from its mighty aircraft carriers and sprawling network of hundreds of bases. China’s military is now making giant strides toward replacing the United States as the supreme power in Asia. With the Pentagon distracted by almost two decades of costly war in the Middle East and Afghanistan, the Chinese military, the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), has exploited a period of sustained budget increases and rapid technical improvement to build and deploy an arsenal of advanced missiles. Across almost all categories of these weapons, based on land, loaded on strike aircraft or deployed on warships and submarines, China’s missiles rival or outperform their counterparts in the armories of the United States and its allies, according to current and former U.S. military officers with knowledge of PLA test launches, Taiwanese and Chinese military analysts, and technical specifications published in China’s state-controlled media.

>China has also seized a virtual monopoly in one class of conventional missiles – land-based, intermediate-range ballistic and cruise missiles.

>Under the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, a Cold War-era agreement aimed at reducing the threat of nuclear conflict, the United States and Russia are banned from deploying this class of missiles, with a range between 500 and 5,500 kilometers (3,418 miles). But Beijing, unrestrained by the INF Treaty, is deploying them in massive numbers. This includes so-called carrier killer missiles like the DF-21D, which can target aircraft carriers and other warships underway at sea at a range of up to 1,500 kilometers, according to Chinese and Western military analysts. If effective, these missiles would give China a destructive capability no other military can boast. China’s advantage in this class of missiles is likely to remain for the foreseeable future, despite U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision in February to withdraw from the treaty in six months. China is also making rapid strides in developing so-called hypersonic missiles, which can maneuver sharply and travel at five times the speed of sound (or even faster). Currently, the United States has no defenses against a missile like this, according to Pentagon officials.

>China’s growing missile arsenal hasn’t yet been proven in a real-world clash, and some Chinese officials play down their advances. But under the Trump administration, Washington has come to view China as a rival determined to displace the United States in Asia. This modern-day missile gap, the administration believes, is emerging as one of the biggest dangers to American military supremacy in Asia since the end of the Cold War. The Pentagon is now scrambling for new weapons and strategies to counter the PLA's rocket arsenal.

>“We know that China has the most advanced ballistic missile force in the world,” said James Fanell, a retired U.S. Navy captain and former senior intelligence officer with the U.S. Pacific Fleet. “They have the capacity to overwhelm the defensive systems we are pursuing.” Fanell was sidelined by the Pentagon ahead of his 2015 retirement, after warning about the Chinese build-up at a time when President Barack Obama was seeking cooperation with Beijing. Today, Pentagon policy hews more closely to his views that China intends to displace the United States as Asia’s dominant power.



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So in a hypothetical self defense situation

What say Tyrone(s) breaks in my house, a goose just pisses me off, or whatever

Is something like this effective for self defense?

Chinks are making them but they're shitty and made for mass production

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The point of modern manned plane

Can anyone tell me the point of modern fighter planes that cost billions?

Bombers are still worth something because they can be quickly put to use.

But something like an air drone can do whatever the fighter jet can:

- recon for infantry/tank/artillery

- shoot missiles

And it's completely cheaper and safe since you don't waste billions on the plane or millions on training pilot.

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The Absolute State of the British Army

British Tank Force Falls to the Lowest Level Since WW1

Defence chiefs have expressed anger that Britain is to mothball a third of its tanks, leaving it with fewer than Serbia, Cambodia or Burma.

The military is planning to revamp only 148 of its 227 Challenger 2 tanks because of cost constraints, The Times has learnt. That would send the armed forces down to 56th in the global league table of number of tanks available.

The remainder of the Challenger 2s, which entered service between 1998 and 2002, are expected to be used for parts. It is possible that some could be patched up for deployment in an emergency.


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Dick’s Sporting Goods Loses $150 million On Gun Control Crusade

>Dick’s itself estimates the price of its anti-gun advocacy at $150 million in lost sales in 2018, or almost 2% of the company’s annual revenue.

>While anti-gunners insisted they would reward Dick’s with increases in their own business, the same article mentions a new Stanford University study that casts doubt on that premise. According to that research, “Respondents said they were more likely to buy a product to support a CEO’s political stance than they were to boycott in disagreement, but their actions revealed the opposite.” The article continued, “When asked for specific examples, 69 percent could name a product they’d stopped buying, and only 21 percent could recall a product they started buying.”

>Nevertheless, CEO Ed Stack remains defiant. “It was worth it,” the article quotes him as saying.



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Terror/Partizan Wave Thread

Let's have a thread on Partizancore and terror core

Also what's the most iconic and best looking russian/eastern bloc camo trousers to mix with an addias camo track top and shoes and a 1983 AKS-74 for tiger valley (gotta get them asthetics)

Also whats the camo pattern the guy kicking in the door is wearing? Is that VSR-93 or Flora or something else

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EDC/Hiking First Aid Kit

What the title says just putting together a list of things I can slap in a first aid kit that's not too bulky for hiking, won't be getting in the way of me moving around too much and will mostly sit in the car while I'm not hiking. I have a separate first aid kit for camping/innawoods I may ask about later but for now I just wanna hammer this out.

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Venezuela coup

Venezuela coup just started. Are we gonna see a proper spic civil war, /k/?

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On McVeigh

Was it truly a real attack and not something that was already set up from the start? Look at how the building was ravaged, all the floors had the same grade of damage. If the IED was laying on the ground, roof floors would have less damage than the bottom, yet here all floors are equally fucked. That could be excused on gas pipes laying in the building, but I still doubt that a truck with a bunch of explosives could do this much havok.

I know that a propane tank would have a blast radius of around 10-20 meters but the damage would just come from the gas combusting and not from the inside force of the explosion. It could make some damage but I doubt it could ravage walls in the same vein this event had.

So was this for realsies or not?

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Revolver and cowboy gun thread

Because we all like to be a texas res or a ranger with a big iron on our hips every so often.

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Mr. and Mrs. New Zealand, turn em all in

Please fill in this form to surrender your firearms to the crown


This is for New Zealanders ONLY. Non-kiwis please do NOT visit this url

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Don’t mind me ATF just a art collector.

Could you sell suppressor cores as modern art pieces? if you label them as such, and told people to never ever even think about putting some piping over it and attach it to anything. Wouldn’t that be protected by the first amendment, cuz who is to say the cores themselves aren’t just art.

Ive seen people online get v& for selling cores as muzzle breaks “with good tones” (lel) pretty stupid, i know… but selling them as art is not as dumb as that because you’re government certainly can’t set legal lPrecedents for a harmless piece of art, as far as what matirals you can an can not use as a work of art. The libshit comunity would lose there shit if there was a Legal precedent that could possibly be used to prevent them from using dirty tampons an vomit in there edgy feminist art. Right?

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Haftar's LNA is attempting to coup the shit out of NATO's government.


LNA's 106th Batt. controls South Tripoli's International Airport. - Being contested by GNA forces as I post this.

>8 hours ago - Pro-Haftar forces have announced Western Libya military zone as no-fly zone, any aircraft will be engaged, airfield targeted

>10 hours ago - LNA Airforce begins to carry out operations as part of Tripoli operation

SLIMY JEW TWEETS NEAT IMAGES - https://twitter.com/Oded121351/status/1114401197644046336

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Borderline insane heroism

I am talking about combat situations in which soldiers or officers use morale as their main weapon. Or even use morale as their only weapon.


So there have been occasions where, officers or even generals didnt take cover. I also heard that there has been at least one attack by the white army in the russian civil war, that was basicly a march towards the red army position by the white army.

They went in marching formation and decoracted uniforms which caused the reds to simply surrender or run away.

Does anybody know something about this? I couldnt find anything myself.

Or any other compareable battle.

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Hypothetical German technological development in a post-WWII scenario

Hypothetically, Germany pulls off a victory in WW2. Bongs peace out after Battle of Britain, Americans still declare war on and win against the Japanese, but Hitler never honors the tripartite pact and declares war on America. By 1946 the Soviets are pushed back east of the Urals and what's left of Russia breaks up into a myriad of China-esque Siberian warlord states and claimants to the former Soviet Union. Chicoms annex Vladivostok, but are beaten by Nationalists with German, American and British support. Central Asian countries break off from the failed USSR to become German-influenced states. The world prepares itself for a Cold War between the democracies and the fascists. But what type of technology will the Germans pursue? Jets, Flying wings, nukes? Will they ever finish that aircraft carrier?

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Red flag bill up for Senate vote March 26

>While Senate Bill 7 named Extreme Risk Protection Order and Violence Prevention Act of 2019, it is actually a Red Flag Gun Confiscation Order. Red Flag Gun Confiscation Bills call for 2nd Amendment rights to be stripped from law-abiding Americans without due process based largely on unsubstantiated accusations from disgruntled family members, neighbors, coworkers, and/or current or ex-romantic partners, or roommates.

>Sen. Rubio’s bill goes further by incentivizing states to confiscate firearms through a $100 million 5-year federal grant program. This means that states that pass Red Flag Laws will receive federal funding and states that do not will be punished by not receiving that funding. This is quite literally a pay off by the federal government to push states to create gun confiscation laws.


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Aesthetic hats and helmet thread

Lets have an aesthetic hats and helmets thread going. Post images of aesthetic hats and helmets here.

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Brenton Tarrant and John Earnest


Why did their guns jam? What did they do wrong? What could they have done to avoid what happened? Tarrant appears to have recovered and cleared his weapon, but Earnest did not. Please compare the two. Even if Tarrant was more competent than Earnest, was he still relatively unskilled despite the supposed 2 years of prep?

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Nuclear War and everything related

Everything nuclear war related goes here. Desired discussions include, but are not limited to:

1. How will nuclear war(s) be fought? Carpet bomb everything with nukes, or would the use of nuclear weapons be limited?

2. How can Strelok survive a nuclear war?

3. Where in the world would be the best place to be if the bomb(c) drop?

4. What happens after a nuclear war? Atomic winter/autumn or something else?

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How can Russia & Iran make the invasion of Iran so painful that the overthrow of the Iranian government would basically be the sunset of the American empire?

See those Ingots?

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Best Recipes For Beans

How would /k prepare beans for the whole family? Post your cookout gear and favorite utensils.

Completely unrelated link


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The Bug Out Bag

So let's say hypothetically I have myself stuck in a major city in a blue state for a little while with no vehicle for familial reasons beyond my immediate control, and I want to construct a bugout bag in case there is a SHTF scenerio Or I just get disgusted by city life and want to walk away.

I understand the basics of emergency prep but I am looking for the ideal loadout for an urban kit tooled for escaping a city on foot and I know you guys would have some good ideas. I am especially interested in food/water suggestions, as lugging around a rucksack of beans and plastic jew bottles of water do not strike me as ideal when trying to quickly gtfo one of these hellholes.

tl;dr - Post bugout bag loadouts

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Estonian Defence Force + Baltics

Being the only Balt poster here, I just want to post news about the EDF without bothering other threads.

Can serve as a hub for Baltic defence and such in general.

If you want to catch up on the major things that have happened past 4 years in the EDF, I suggest reading the EDF thread on The Mess.


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CHINA PANIC??!?!!??!?!

Let's say in another timeline, China is not the benevolent, peace loving country that it is today.

China's enormous population, lack of ethics, massive industrial base and debased-atheist mindset could make them a hard enemy to deal with.

How would a war against China play out in the modern day?

<Larp on>

Please try to go beyond just simple things like attacking the ports and roads. How would you sew dissension in the ranks? Make use of the minority groups? etc.

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>shitty 22lr carbine pistols aren't legal in my country

>fucking 12g shotguns are

Explain this shit, /k/. Why are lawmakers so retarded?

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Foldable Pistols?

Are there any blueprints for pistols that can be folded in half, just like you can fold the grip of machine pistols sometimes. I am looking for a design where even the pistol itself can be folded, so that it can be carried in a very compact form. Is it even possible to fold the barrel, or would inserting a hinge result in a loss of functionality? I think a pistol that can be folded to max 15cm would be ideal. Preferrably, it is folded so that length and width are minimal (staying flat, not bloating all 3 dimensions). This would make it fit into clothing pockets much better.

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SMG thread

What SMGs are actually good? Most modern models seem like simple plastic shit that's good only for getting money from mall ninjas. Post your favorite models, discuss mechanisms and features you like in them, etc. What calibers would you wants them in?

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Describe to me your perfect range.

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fixing US weapons r&d

If you were elected president(or appointed secretary of defense), how would you fix the US military's r&d woes?

I would start designing things in the military and putting out contracts for manufacturers, not weapons designs. It seems really simple that the military would produce a design for a weapon and take bids for producing said weapon.

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Military Grade Sauropod Mounts

Cretaceous Titanosaurs were not only the largest land animals to ever live, not only greatly surpassed their, previously thought as the biggest, late-Jurassic sauropod relatives in terms of mass but also had extremely convenient flat-back and broad flanks.

What would you mount on them?

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Sol Pais arrested by FBI for bringing rifle to forest

teen v& for bringing raifu to woods

I'm sure she'll be just fine.

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/k/ builds a gunship

When /k/ finally does go to war, we're going to need air support.

Problem is that we're poorfags and this isn't going to change anytime soon, so lets explore the viability of CAS, Aircav, and medivac on a budget so we can live out our Rhodesian Fireforce fantasies IRL.

As actual helicopters look mad complex to build and maintain, and fixed wing aircraft come with the need for infrastructure, I propose heavy autogyros.

They're far simpler to maintain and there's less to break than helos, they can autorotate allowing for safer engine-out capability than most aircraft, and depending on the design they are only slightly harder to fly than regular fixed wing craft.

The downside is that they are not high-performance in any respect, which is why they are never chosen by organised militaries given the choice between them and conventional aircraft.

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The quest for the cycling subsonic .223

I have Hodgdon Trail Boss powder and 70gr .224. When loaded I believe that it is subsonic under 6.3gr of powder, even though quickload says otherwise. However, even at 25000psi it still wont cycle. I have a carbine sized buffer spring in a rifle size rifle, the gas tube is not adjustable, with this BCG https://www.brownells.com/aspx/search/productdetail.aspx?sid=158736&pid=75003

What can I do to get it to cycle?

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Clusterfuck battles

Post battles that were almost impressively fucked. Starting off with a personal favorite of mine, the Battle of the Crater.


>inna siege of Petersburg, war of Northron Aggression

>Yankee officer has a pretty good idea of setting off a mine under Rebel trenches to break the siege

>spend months digging a hole under Confederate lines

>place powder, light fuse

>bomb goes off, bluebacks charge in

>end up just fucking around in the crater because no one really prepared for this part

>Johnny Reb bounces back and starts shooting at Yanks, who are still in the crater

>union general sends in more soldiers, who get killed even faster

>Melanated gentlemen who charged in earlier shouting no quarter for rebels and started killing anyone they saw are massacred not only by the Army of Northern Virginia but also by white federals fearing a reprisal

>between this and the previous battles of Fredericksburg and Spotsylvania Court House, the reputation of Major General Ambrose Burnside is forever destroyed and he is never again placed in command

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Ackerman-McQueen is getting sued


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Space and Extraterrestrial Warfare General

A thread to talk about the various applications of weapons, surveillance equipment, and exploration beyond our atmosphere, and defences and countermeasures against such weapons. Starting with some fresh news that filthy kikes have littered the moon with their shekelcraft.

Israeli spacecraft crashes during moon landing, says mission control



If a hypothetical war were to break out in the next decade or so, would it be possible that there would be limitations or good-will agreements among the warring parties not to intentionally litter by destruction or obstruction, the orbit paths of GPS satellites, given that they have become prevalent and key to all major military hardware developed in most major nations in the last 4 decades?

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Is power armor a vidya joke or does it actually have potential?

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>Marines' F-35B took its first flight

>Crashed in South Carolina the next day due to a fuel leak, right after taking off

It keeps getting better.


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Post your planefu.

Mine pic related


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Habbening: Shooting on Toothpaste Tram



Man fires on passengers in tram in Utrecht, Netherlands, several injured, attacker at large - media



> Multiple shots were fired in a tram in a Dutch city of Utrecht, leaving several people injured, police said. Emergency services and anti-terror teams have arrived at the scene.

>A square around a tram station outside downtown Utrecht is on lockdown following the shooting, local media reported. Police have cordoned off the area and adjacent streets, but the perpetrator managed to escape.

>Ambulances and emergency services are also present although the number of injured is yet to be clarified.

>BREEK - Volgens getuigen heeft een man in een tram op weg naar Utrecht CS een wapen getrokken en meerdere personen neergeschoten. Hulpdiensten massaal aanwezig en bezig met eerste hulp in de tram. >pic.twitter.com/eQOWF2e5Ze

>— Yelle Tieleman (@YelleTieleman) 18 марта 2019 г.

>Medevac helicopters have been send in to airlift the wounded, Utrecht police have said. they also urged drivers to make way for medical vehicles.

>U-OV, a local transport company, said tram services were suspended all around the city.

>Slachtoffer wordt terwijl medewerkers hem/haar in ambulance leggen nog steeds gereanimeerd. >pic.twitter.com/73aOZx2Qrz

>— Yelle Tieleman (@YelleTieleman) 18 марта 2019 г.

>A shooting occurred on the #24oktoberplein in #Utrecht. The incident has been reported at 10.45 hour. Multiple people have been injured. The surrounding area has been cordoned off and we are investigating the matter.

>— Politie Utrecht (@PolitieUtrecht) March 18, 2019

False flag, or angry mudslime, or saviour of the white race. Place your bets! Also how are the gun laws in Netherlands like, and are there many illegal firearms coming in via Eastern Europe?

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Here is the deal. I am getting pic related to use as armor against attacking animals. I know it is not leather or chain mail, but every little bit off extra fabric is useful and being that it should be loose fitting, the robe has potential to bunch up while being attacked. Also better for an animal to attack a dangling piece of cloth than going straight for my legs.

My question is what would be the optimal way to cut the bottom of the robe to give my legs mobility, but without sacrificing coverage of my legs? While Geralt's robe has a lot of mobility, a lot of his legs are exposed from the front. So I don't know. The drawing I have put together is what I would ideally like to have, but I don't know.

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On this sad day of His passing, let us pay respects to the warrior known as Simo Häyhä, Patron Saint of the Almighty Moist Nugget, and Eternal Champion of the Noscope.

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Why is it such an awful fucking rifle?

Its a galil clone which is a valmet clone which is an kalashnikov clone I get it but still

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elcan spectre tri-role 1/3/9 or march 1-10x24?

i've heard that elcans are incredibly durable,

but i've also heard that march optics are pretty durable,

although probably not to the same extent.

it's much easier to get a sight picture when looking through the elcan,

but i've heard that the reticle can get lost at higher magnifications.

the march has variable magnification, and it goes a power higher.

the march seems to have better glass quality, and the elcan weighs almost 2 pounds.

apparently they both have a low field of view at their highest magnifications.

do any of you have experience with these optics?

durability is a dealbreaker for me, i'd rather have something heavy that works than something light that doesn't.

that said, the march might be durable enough, even if it's not AS durable.

having higher magnification, less weight, and variable magnification are also very appealing.

but.. a quick sight picture can make the difference when you need it most.

i'm also curious about what the field of view is like at lower magnifications on these optics.

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Innawoods thread

>inb4 kraut space magic


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So, in the prepping general thread a new Zeemaps was created just for /8/k/pol/ (old one was cluttered as fuck). Tag yourselves with a codename and a secure email, get to networking.

Other options include joining state constitutional militias (PA State Militia is unironic and legit, look into yours or start your own).

Avoid any group that advocates 'first strike' or violence as it is likely a honeypot.

Also /meadhall/ isn't dead, yet. Though they are more likely /pol/ than /k/.

Nuggetfests are good to get to know your fellow /k/ommandos.

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Happy Birthday friends.

Remember to study all the fun stuff on the internet for educational and entertainment purposes only.

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home made fire based weapons general

any home made fire based weapons you know about

spray can and lighter,basic molotolv not allowed

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Washington sheriffs refuse to enforce new gun control laws.



Sheriffs in a dozen Washington counties say they won’t enforce the state’s sweeping new restrictions on semi-automatic rifles until the courts decide whether they are constitutional.

A statewide initiative approved by voters in November raised the minimum age for buying semi-automatic rifles from 18 to 21, required buyers to first pass a firearms safety course and added expanded background checks and gun storage requirements, among other things. It was among the most comprehensive of a string of state-level gun-control measures enacted in the U.S. after last year’s shooting at a Florida high school.

The National Rifle Association and the Second Amendment Foundation have filed a lawsuit in federal court alleging the initiative is unconstitutional. They say its purchasing requirements violate the right to bear arms and stray into the regulation of interstate commerce, which is the province of the federal government.

Sheriffs in 12 mostly rural, conservative counties — Grant, Lincoln, Okanogan, Cowlitz, Douglas, Benton, Pacific, Stevens, Yakima, Wahkiakum, Mason and Klickitat — along with the police chief of the small town of Republic, have said they will not enforce the new law until the issues are decided by the courts.

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Ban-Proof Firearms

Since semi-automatic firearms will probably be banned in the U.S within the next 10-20 years tops, What are some good ban-proof guns to consider?

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German KSK operator up to no good



Media report German KSK special forces commando suspended for right-wing extremism

Germany's Bundeswehr has suspended a lieutenant colonel in the elite Special Forces Command (KSK) commando unit on suspicion of right-wing extremism, according to the military's counterintelligence service MAD.

The KSK, a unit of about 70 soldiers, made headlines last year after a farewell party for a company commander featured a soldier demonstrating the Hitler salute and right-wing rock music.

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This is a thread where we talk about France and their military achievements, or lack thereof.

Some worthwhile topics of discussion

>France being killed by Europe in 1815

>French being killed by Chinese in 1850s

>French being killed by Mexicans in 1860s

>French being killed by Koreans in 1860s

>French being killed by Germans in 1914

>French being killed by Germans in 1930s

>French being killed by Vietnamese in 1945

>French being killed by various gooks in 1946+

Other topics of discussion include

>The incompetent management of French small arms in WW1

>The incompetence of the French military in WW2

>Laughing at French military incompetence in general

>Making fun of French food and culture

>Colonial wars, where France lost

>Congratulating Napoleon for making the nation somewhat relevant (debatable)

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SHTF Best Bork Bork, Nom Nom?

Alright /k/, what is your choice of breed/breeds of good boy for when SHTF? Bonus points for location and purpose.

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This started out as a response to a picture in a thread, then quickly barreled out as a rant. As a preface, I am pro liberty as hell- rothbard is my spirit animal and you cannot overwhelm the leyonhelm.

But I can't understand owning that many guns.

I get it, there's an appeal to having an arseload of pretty guns. Can't imagine cleaning day being anything less than a giant pain in the arse. For the amount of money you'd spend on all that though, you'd get objectively better value out of a few REALLY nice, good guns that you're going to shoot the everloving shit out of and learn the manual of arms blindfolded and know which loads shoot the best out of which guns and to what degree. You can only shoot many different guns before the skills you can train on one gun get divided among the many.

The best thing about the AR platform is the fact that there is stupid amounts of customization involved- it is entirely possible to have but one lower and a couple uppers in, say, 5.56, .300blk, 308, or any of the many .308 derivatives. If you reload you should, you flaming homosexual you benefit from only having to buy a few components across different platforms, like using the same bullets and powders in .300 blackout or .308, or 5.56 and 22-250. You could even simply down-load the .308 to .300 blk levels and get the same performance, enabling you to focus on getting the loads exactly right with more brass for the same cost. Ideally, all of your guns should be able to share components- say, a person who carries .327 federal has a .30 caliber as his fighting rifle and his long ranged kebab remover is a shit-hot .300 magnum. This means only two bullets, two powders, two primer types, three brass types, three die sets on quick change bushings. 3, 2, 3, and 4 if you include a good shotgun (use a powder like universal in the pistol and shotgun).

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/K/ Wallpaper thread

Post any /K/ wallpapers here

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Interesting, secret and unknown operations

This thread is for the discussion of interesting and largely unknown military and intelligence service missions. I will start with an example.

Operation Sommerregen(Summer Rain)

Operation Sommerregen was a covert operation conducted by the BND=Bundesnachrichtendienst(Federal Intelligence Service) in Afghanistan during the Soviet Intervention in the 80s. The task of this mission was to capture Soviet equipment so it could be transported to Germany for analysis and testing. The Operation started in 1981 and most likely ended with the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan in 1989. Accompanied by elite soldiers the agents entered the county via the Afghanistan-Pakistan border as humanitarian workers. To actually get their hands on Soviet equipment the soldiers and agents were working together with the Mujahideen but obviously had to disguise their identity as German military personnel. Agents that took part in the mission reported to have worked closely together with the Mujahideen or otherwise they would have denied the cooperation. This close relation led to various engagements where German soldiers were fighting alongside the Mujahideen against Soviet soldiers. During the course of the Operation various equipment such as guns, ammunition, grenades, anti-tank weapons, radio devices, navigation devices and (parts of) armored vehicles/tanks/helicopters/planes has been secured. The Operation has ended without any German soldiers/agents missing or dead and is regarded as a huge success for the BND. A lot of information about Operation Sommerregen is still classified and is likely going to remain for some time.

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U.S. "Gets Its Ass Handed To It" In World War III Simulations: RAND

"We lose a lot of people. We lose a lot of equipment. We usually fail to achieve our objective of preventing aggression by the adversary,"

>In simulated World War III scenarios, the U.S. continues to lose against Russia and China, two top war planners warned last week. “In our games, when we fight Russia and China, blue gets its ass handed to it" RAND analyst David Ochmanek said Thursday.

>RAND's wargames show how US Armed Forces - colored blue on wargame maps - experience the most substantial losses in one scenario after another and still can't thwart Russia or China - which predictably is red - from accomplishing their objectives: annihilating Western forces.

>"We lose a lot of people. We lose a lot of equipment. We usually fail to achieve our objective of preventing aggression by the adversary," he warned.

>In the next military conflict, which some believe may come as soon as the mid-2020s, all five battlefield domains: land, sea, air, space, and cyberspace, will be heavily contested, suggesting the U.S. could have a difficult time in achieving superiority as it has in prior conflicts.

>The simulated war games showed, the "red" aggressor force often destroys U.S. F-35 Lightning II stealth fighters on the runway, sends several Naval fleets to the depths, destroys US military bases, and through electronic warfare, takes control of critical military communication systems. In short, a gruesome, if simulated, annihilation of some of the most modern of US forces.

>“In every case I know of,” said Robert Work, a former deputy secretary of defense with years of wargaming experience, “the F-35 rules the sky when it’s in the sky, but it gets killed on the ground in large numbers.”

>So, as Russia and China develop fifth-generation fighters and hypersonic missiles, “things that rely on sophisticated base infrastructures like runways and fuel tanks are going to have a hard time,” Ochmanek said. “Things that sail on the surface of the sea are going to have a hard time.”

>He said "$24 billion a year for the next five years would be a good expenditure" to prepare the military for World War III.

>With the defense budget stuck around $700 billion per annum for the remainder of President Trump's term, America's Warhawks are inciting fear through simulated wargames with one purpose only: demand more taxpayers' money for war spending.



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/k/ designs weapons

>styrofoam wing

>single small plank of wood across the length of the drone

>small prop and a pair of flaperons attached on the back

>computer board in the middle

>battery in the middle-front

>gps/glonass + solar (fisheye camera on the pcb) + inertial navigation

>wide angle camera on the bottom pointed down-forward for target spotting

>narrow angle camera on the bottom on a servo for aiming

>aluminium film attached to the bottom with spacers

>launched from a catapult

>lands on plastic sleds at the wingtips

>drop small HEAT bombs on enemy ships

>sent in swarms of thousands at a time

>nearly impervious to small arms fire

>cheaper than enemy AAA ammo

>laser defense has to melt through aluminium sheet that deflects 90% of the beam and is heavily air-cooled

>HEAT bombs instantly disable anything they hit, deny aircraft carriers ability to field any airplanes


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What was Napoleon thinking when he invaded Russia? He understood why Charles XII failed to defeat the Russians yet he made the same mistakes himself. The nigga didn't even have the excuse of incompetence. Did his head just grow too big for his small, portly, body?

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New Zealand man refuses to give up guns, gets killed in standoff with police

Man wanted after guns found at Christchurch home dies during standoff with police

Police say a 54-year-old man is dead after a overnight standoff with police, following the discovery of guns at a property.

In a statement this morning, Police Commissioner Mike Bush said a search warrant was issued yesterday at a St Martins address where police found a number of firearms.

Police then sought a 54-year-old man over the guns, but he died during a subsequent standoff with police.

Police located the man inside a stopped vehicle in the Richmond Park area about 12.30am today, but he refused to get out of his vehicle.

A police negotiation team spoke with him over a number of hours, and a police helicopter was called in, as well as Armed Offender Squad members.

About 3.40am, police approached the vehicle and found that the man was critically injured with what looked to be a stab wound - a knife was found in the vehicle.

Members of the public reported hearing gunshots, but police said that was the sound of gas canisters being deployed.

Mr Bush said a high priority investigation is underway to find out whether or not this man posed a threat to the community.

Further searches of properties and interviews with family and associates will be carried out.

Mr Bush said that, at this time, there is no evidence to suggest the man was connected to the March 15 terrorist attack, but that they are looking at any potential link.

Police will remain in the area of Richmond Park and St Martins as scene examinations continue.

Mr Bush said he was grateful to the members of the public who had reported the suspicious activity of the man.



Repostan by request of >>>/pol/13031968

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I did not used to believe in love at first sight, but she has me steloks. This spanish maiden has captured my heart like she captured 55% of my ancestors. However I heard they had some terrible CQ issues in spain, please tell me the american made ones fixed that and are of high quality. The MARCOLMAR CETME-L in particular. Or even the Hill and Mac gunworks made ones. I don't care that she's $1400, I just wanna know if she'll last.

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Aussie Kebab Remover Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

Old thread hit post limit, continue discussing JC Brenton's actions.


>News and Updates

<Kill count up to 49: http://archive.is/3ynYF - CNN

<New Zealand Prime Minister vows to change country's gun laws: http://archive.fo/AbCow - The Guardian

Manifesto is embedded, still have not confirmed if the shooter was the BO or not.

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lol, california AG xavier becerra is super fucking salty


>Plaintiffs offer no evidence that there are any Californians who have either ordered or are currently in possession of LCMs in reliance on the Court’s ruling. And even if such residents exist, that does not

militate against a stay. To the contrary, an immediate stay is necessary to prevent further irreparable harm to the State and to avoid potential harm to individuals acting in reliance on the Judgment before the request for a full stay is considered.

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I need to know the max dimensions (size and weight) of airdrop AND non-drop normal mode for the various major transports such as C-130, C-17, that new Airbus with the curved props, whatever Slav-tier stuff is used in 3rd world, etc.

Also helicopters, especially craft with internal carry and rear door drop ability.

I'm guessing there is a "max, but it takes a week to set-up" and a "max that we can do fast without thinking".

Anyways, IMO this should all be on one spread-sheet, along with common ground vehicles/pallet sizes.

This will be for designing new ground vehicle concepts IRL, but I guess the data would also be useful for gamer faggots and game designers.

Yes, the pic is not technically an "airdrop" but an "extraction". Include that data too, if you got anything.

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19th century naval warfare


Let’s talk about the change in naval tactics and technologies through the course of the second half of the eighteen hundreds.

Quick rundown for anons not knowing what I mean:

The transition from mainly wind driven ships to steam engines (paddle/screws), the change from classical cannons to breechloaders and the conversion from wooden hulls to iron/steel hulls.

Of course the mishmash between all the above welcomed, that’s what made that period so special.

Share stuff you have read, maybe what your country did to adapt to the frenetic changing times or about wars that took place in that very time period and where the changes of naval warfare were felt (Crimean war or First/Second Schleswig war for example).

Happy posting.

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Europoor Buying His First Raifu

Sup /k/.

FInally got round to getting a firearms permit and would like you gents' thoughts on first acquisitions.

No prior experience with funz save for lurking this forum and bingeing hickok45 videos.

I was planning to go for a .22lr Walther P22 (300 Eu), but given that I can't afford to buy too many of these things because of financial constraints (make good $ for a europoor but saving for gradschool) I thought maybe I'd be better off getting a more fun calibre straight away.

I always planned to get a bolt-action rifle also and thought a Mosin-Nagant would be nice since it's not too expensive (400-450 Eu where I live. Just about twice what it is in the US lol) and the 7.62x54R isn't too expensive unlike some other rifle calibres where I live, also you guys seem to talk them up a lot.

Guns we're allowed to own where I live: Basically anything you can own in the US save for snub-nosed revolvers and hollow point rounds. Lots of cheap and cheerful Cugir and Norinco stuff going around.

Things I intend to do with them: Range shooting. Not allowed to use them for anything else or anywhere else.

Budget: <1000 mandatory gunsafe included (about 380)

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US missile defense system takes out ICBM threat in first salvo test

WASHINGTON — The Missile Defense Agency is deeming the first salvo test of its homeland missile defense system against an intercontinental ballistic missile threat a success, according an agency statement.

>The MDA conducted the test Monday. It last tested the Ground-Based Midcourse Defense System’s (GMD) Ground-Based Interceptors (GBI) against an ICBM target in May 2017. At that time, the MDA’s director said the agency was next shooting to conduct a more complex salvo test involving two GBIs against an ICBM, because firing off two GBIs against one target is more operationally realistic and important in proving out the effectiveness of the overall system.

>In the Monday test, the lead GBI destroyed the ICBM’s reentry vehicle “as it was designed to do,” according to the agency’s statement. The trailing GBI “then looked at the resulting debris and remaining objects, and, not finding any other reentry vehicles, selected the next ‘most lethal object’ it could identify, and struck that, precisely as it was designed to do,” the statement adds.

>The ICBM target was launched from the Reagan Test Site on Kwajalein Atoll in the Marshall Islands, which is over 4,000 miles away from the GBI interceptors buried in silos in the ground at Vandenberg Air Force Base, California. “This was the first GBI salvo intercept of a complex, threat-representative ICBM target, and it was a critical milestone,” MDA Director Air Force Lt. Gen. Samuel Greaves said in the statement. “The system worked exactly as it was designed to do, and the results of this test provide evidence of the practicable use of the salvo doctrine within missile defense,” he said. “The Ground-based Midcourse Defense system is vitally important to the defense of our homeland, and this test demonstrates that we have a capable, credible deterrent against a very real threat.”



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Hudson Manufacturing Files for Bankruptcy

Guess the Glockteen 11 with a chamber full of empty space wasn't so popular.


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US Army's New SMG

>The American subsidiary of Swiss gunmaker B&T has won a multi-million-dollar contract to supply the U.S. Army with a variant of its 9mm APC9 submachine gun. For almost a year, the service has been evaluating a number of proposed weapons as part of an effort to give personal security details added firepower.

>The Army quietly announced that it had awarded B&T USA the deal, worth more than $2.5 million, on the U.S. government’s main contracting website FedBizOpps on Mar. 29, 2019, but did not specify which weapon specifically it was buying. A trusted source familiar with the contract confirmed the gun in question was a version of the APC9 PRO series, but could not say which model specifically. The Army now expects to purchase at least 350 of what it officially calls the Sub Compact Weapon, or SCW, with additional options to buy up to 1,000 of the guns in total. The order also includes unspecified accessories, spare parts, and services.

>The Army initially kicked off the SCW competition in May 2018, before canceling the project and quickly rebooting it in a revised form two months later. Along with B&T USA, its Swiss-headquartered parent company had also entered the SCW competition itself in partnership with Trident Rifles. The Army passed on that bid, along with other offers from Angstadt Arms, Global Ordnance, Shield Arms, and Sig Sauer all of which submitted entries, as well.

>Reports in 2018 had indicated that B&T, through Trident Rifles, had initially offered a variant of the company’s MP9 machine pistol. However, this gun has a side-folding stock, which would have disqualified it under the Army’s revised requirements.

>Though we don't know the exact configuration of the guns the Army is now buying, the APC9 PRO family of guns already includes a variant, the APC9 PRO K, that meets a number of the Army’s requirements, such as a barrel shorter than five and a half inches, a weight under seven pounds, and a stock that retracts and extends rather than folds to the side. B&T presently offers this gun with only a semi-automatic fire option, while any Army version would have a fully automatic mode.



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Attacking infrastructure

As an addon to the helicopter thread, infrastructure will be very important for the enemy. As they need to use it to transport their fuel, ammunition and other resources to their troops. Industry that supplies the enemy will also need to be cut off.

The electrical grid is the most important in that infrastructure system.

I assume that most military is not hardcore and only there for a paycheck and benefits, and will desert as soon as things look even a tiny bit bleak.

As to how things look at this time, taking out infrastructure is not terribly hard. As Metcalf showed:


Information I seek:

>How do military bases get electrical power and how is the security?

>Where to do damage substations for a critical failure?

>Damaging train tracks to derail enemy supply trains

>Where and how deep are underground lines/pipes placed for supplying water and electrical energy to the enemy?

>How to effectively take out transmission towers?

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>Innawoods Gear

>Tactical for long range Goings

>Custom made armor, sewing Water Packs into the Coats,

>Hidden Pockets Sewn In for Gun Holsters


Elite Riot Gear is Very Sexy!

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Someone is Trying to Govern the Internet Again

/k/, a group of Swedish internet vigilantes are trying to govern the internet. More specifically, websites that host 3D printed weapons, like the Liberator and Songbird pistols. They're doing this by spamming the websites with phony uploads, claiming to be one of the pistols, but instead, is a model of that goddamn knotted-barrel revolver thing. Of course, this is useless against websites that show CAD previews, but it's still fucking annoying. Leave our goddamn physibles alone, Sweden. You can't stop humans from arming themselves.



Of course, there are plenty of websites that only host the files (such as http://herohog.com/GunBuilds/), and can't have anything uploaded, and websites that have file previews, but websites like The Pirate Bay are going to be hit pretty hard by this.

The only thing that annoys me more than the project itself is that they constantly refer to 3D printed gun file distribution as "the 3D printed gun market", which is so obviously wrong, it pisses me off. The 3D printed gun community (actually, the entire 3D printing community) is literally the most open source community next to Linux and GNU.

This will be crossposted to /tech/ in a little while.

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The Boomer Cowrd rides again.

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Defence against laser weapons

How would /k/ defend against Dazzlers with a limited budget?

Dazzlers are fucking dangerous to civilians, especially if more powerful versions are developed which could permanently blind. The fact that they can fire over a large area and change frequencies quickly means there would be no way to take cover from an attack before it hits you. Although these weapons are illegal for governments to make, the fact that improvised versions wouldn't be hard for terrorist/rebels/whoever to jury-rig means defending against them is important. Pilots and other airmen are especially vulnerable, owing to the fact that the attack doesn't really suffer fall off when aiming up.

The most total defence I could think of was basically a pass through VR headset, but this would be impractical as the vision inside is not accurate and lag free enough for use in combat and would cause vision issues if worn constantly. Simply wearing an expensive pair of thermal googles would also work, but the issues of limited vision and constant use still apply, with the added problem of cost. Sunglasses, ski-goggles and even shooting glasses would be basically useless as dazzlers could change power and frequency quickly, unless /k/ knows some special gear for defence against this.

Some sort of compound in a smoke grenade which refracted all frequencies in and near the visible range and infra-red would be useful, but in practice it would only be useful as cover if you already knew you were under attack.

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Stock and scope advice?

This monstergrip is fucking ass and thanks to the gimped barrel the recoil impulse is worse than a palmetto state patriot.

Whats a decent scope and stock for this shit?

RUGER AR 556. Also is it fine to shoot steel cased wolf with it?

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Benchmade is cucked

I know we have a knife thread, but new thread for visibility:

If you wanted to get a new knife, you can safely rule out Benchmade. If you have Benchmade knives already, you can hurt the company by flooding the used market with cheap sales of your knives.

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Colombian poverty grenades.


*Potassium chlorate


* Aluminum powder

* Aluminum foil

* Smooth stone

You add 70% potassium chlorate (7 tablespoons), 10% sulfur (1 tablespoon) and 20% aluminum powder (2 tablespoons). Remember, the spoon with which you are going to throw the ingredients has to be the same with which you are going to prepare the potato bomb. Then add the products to a jar of Nescafe or similar, the scramble and on the aluminum wall you add the scrambled, then on the mixture you place the smooth stone and on this add more of the mixture, then wrap and begin to tighten it well (Hazle con the sides of a marker to tighten it better, then throw it and READY …

Note: If you want to make more quantity, try to make the same amount for all the ingredients

some recipe.

You can also add nails and screws as make it a fucking fragmentation grenade with poverty shards.

We can them potato bombs in my thirld world shithole.

This shit can get u killed, so don't be stupid and carry 20 of them on your backpack while running.

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>pic related blocks your path

>"you are a swine!"

>kicks you in the groin

What do, /k/?

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>In November, alarm bells started to ring about the National Rifle Association’s finances. At the time, the gun rights group was reportedly unable to afford coffee for its employees. At the time, the news was just another financial hit for the organization that had been suffering from declining revenues and membership dues.

>Now, in a fundraising letter sent this month, Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre has kvetched that the NRA could shut down forever, blaming fellow Jew and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo.

>“Right now we’re facing an attack that’s unprecedented not just in the history of the NRA, but in the entire history of our country,” LaPierre wrote. “And if this attack succeeds, NRA will be forced to shut down forever.”

>Currently, the gun rights group is entangled in a lawsuit against the state of New York and Gov. Cuomo. The lawsuit alleges that the governor in his capacity has pressured financial institutions and insurers to stop working with the NRA.

>Insurance company Lockton provided personal liability insurance for members of the NRA’s Carry Guard program, which provides training for self-defense and other resources. According to the Carry Guard website, “without insurance, lawful self-defense can cost you a fortune.” The insurance is no longer available in New York after Lockton was hit with a $7.5 million fine in May 2018. New York’s Department of Financial Services said the NRA is not licensed to conduct insurance business in the state.

>“Cuomo’s tactics are already working,” the NRA says in its letter. “One by one, more and more banks and insurance companies across the country are knuckling under to Cuomo’s threat — and telling NRA they won’t do business with us — because they don’t want to be targeted and crushed by Cuomo’s strong-arm tactics and the vast power of thousands of New York bureaucrats.”

>“Unless we can force Cuomo to break off this attack, NRA will have no choice but to cease operations after 147 years of fighting for freedom.”

>According to a Daily Beast report, LaPierre then compared Cuomo’s efforts to government efforts to crack down on dissent in China, Cuba, and North Korea.

>“You and I have seen how the power of government has been used in China and Cuba and North Korea to stamp out opposing views and silence political opponents,” he wrote. “But never in my life did I think we’d see these tactics brazenly and openly deployed by government officials, right here in the United States, to destroy people and organizations they disagree with.”

>The NRA then makes a final plea for contributions, saying that the group cannot “survive without your help.”

Reminder that Wayne LaPissant makes five million shekels a year off the NRA(not counting bonuses) and then complains that the group can't afford coffee for employees. All while refusing to take a pay cut, of course.

Friendly reminder that the NRA made no significant gun rights pushes in the two years that Republicowards controlled all three branches of government.

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ITT: Armies you would serve in

1. Nationale Volksarmee as T-72 Tank commander blasting "Unsere Panzerdivision"

2. Wehrmacht

3. VDV in 1980s Soviet Union (Afghanistan)

4. Serb Kebab removal army (Yugoslav wars 1992-1993)

5. ROKMC in Vietnam (1968-1970)

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>California Penal Code § 32310 is hereby declared to be unconstitutional in its entirety and shall be enjoined.


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Colorized Photos

Post /k/ related photos that have been colorized or are in real-color. Early to mid 20th century only please.

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Underwater rifle blueprints

Anyone have any APS blueprints, such as dimensions and all, was looking at supercavitating rounds, and the the ADS.

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I often hear people talk about the Constitution. People speak of the law and make claims that the Constitution guarantees our rights. Few people are aware of what the Constitution is or how it works. The Constitution is not a law, it does not bind the government or grant any rights, it never has. Furthermore, the Constitution is not a physical barrier or a magical parchment that guarantees rights of any kind. The Constitution is a blueprint that free men can follow in order to remain free if they so choose. The entirety of the blueprint depends on the 2nd amendment and it’s true meaning. The only thing in human history that has ever held rulers in check is the threat of death. The 2nd amendment does not mean that the government must allow you to own guns, nor does it exist to ensure your personal protection or amusement. What the 2nd amendment means is that if you choose to be free, then YOU MUST keep weapons in order to overthrow your rulers if it becomes necessary. Nobody can, or will give you permission to do this, it is your responsibility as a free man. The 1st amendment, likewise, is not a right, but a demand. The function of the 1st amendment is to allow non-violent communication between the government and the governed. Without the option of non-violent communication, violence is the only possible solution. All historical precedents show us that our modern beliefs about how society SHOULD or COULD work, do not stand up to reality. The laws of nature are in fact, the only true laws, all else is fantasy. So, when you hear people speak about how the “Constitution grants us rights” or the “Constitution guarantees” or “The Constitution protects me”, understand that they have no concept of what the Constitution means, or what it is. The Constitution has never protected you and it never will. The Constitution is a blueprint by which you can protect yourself. The Constitution does not grant you rights, it presents you with responsibilities that you may or may not accept.

Do not attempt to read between the lines of what I have written. Do not look for a hidden message or other such wizardry, for you will find none. Furthermore, do not fantasize about how my comments may pertain to some current issue that others are making a fuss about, nor assume that it relates to something that you saw on the television. My words were very basic and simple and their meaning was not hidden by parable or rhetoric. Although, you may assume that I am making a call to arms or violence, I assure you that I am not. I would not bother to make such a call, as I know exactly what you will do. In reality, your offspring WILL inherit the yoke of slavery and you will make yourself as comfortable as possible as the world burns around you. Enjoy your sportsball, your television shows and your cheap food. Continue to recite your magical incantations about “Democracy”, “America”, and “Shall Not Be Infringed”, if it makes you feel better. Whether consciously or by deception, this is the fate that you have chosen. Nobody is coming to save you. If you gleam nothing else from what I have written, understand this, by choosing slavery, you have allied yourself with the enemies of free men. If a free man thinks for one moment that you are his enemy, then he will kill you without hesitation and in your fantasies of freedom, you don’t blame him.

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Air Force Gearing Up for Next A-10 Re-Winging Contract

Air Force Gearing Up for Next A-10 Re-Winging Contract



2 Apr 2019

Military.com By Oriana Pawlyk

>The U.S. Air Force is preparing for the next A-10 Warthog contract to re-wing more of the close-air support aircraft.

>The next contract for the "A-10-Thunderbolt II Advanced-Wing Continuation Kit," known as "ATTACK," is going through source selection and is expected to be awarded this fall, Air Force spokeswoman Ann Stefanek said Monday. The service has $267 million set aside to buy "about 20 total wings," she said.

>The service last year said it had begun searching for a new company to rebuild wings on the A-10 after ending its arrangement with Boeing Co., even though officials have not committed to re-winging the entire fleet. The Air Force has 281 A-10s in its inventory, but it has decided to maintain wings for only six of its nine A-10 combat squadrons through roughly 2032.

>Boeing is on track to complete its re-winging agreement, known as the "Enhanced Wing Assembly," for 173 aircraft by this summer, Stefanek said. So far, 169 aircraft have been re-winged under the contract, with the remaining four to be completed in the next few months.

>But work on the next few close-air support mission planes is changing as the Air Force moves forward with new acquisition and research and development techniques.

>Dr. Will Roper, assistant secretary of the Air Force for acquisition, technology and logistics, said "digital engineering" sometimes allows the service to bypass the regular manufacturing process for parts.

>Digital engineering is unlike 3D printing, which produces a physical part. If the service owns the rights to manufacture specific components of a plane or weapon, digital engineering lets developers see how to make the part and, in some cases, allows maintainers and engineers to create it themselves if they have the right tools and materials.

>That's been working on the A-10, Roper said.

>"I think new technologies like digital engineering allow us to change how production and design are done, and I think … [digital engineering] will allow us to not raise the cost of sustainment for very heterogeneous Air Force," he said last month during the annual McAleese & Associates conference.

>"We don't have nearly enough [digital engineering programs]," he said, adding that it is also being used on the Ground Based Strategic Deterrent program to replace the Minuteman III intercontinental ballistic missile system.

>With digital engineering, the Air Force "can make smart choices" in very early stages, Roper said. In addition to potentially giving aircraft a few additional flight years, "we can completely change the game on how we do aircraft development and fielding," he said.

I for one welcome the continuation of a decades work and input from great CAS pilots such as Hans Ulrich Rudel, and the A-10's inspiration from the Ju-87 and Il-2; it's a beautiful plane and I envy the Americans for being able to see these things up close.

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First the pastafarians, now the Conquistadors



>Madrid – The leader of Spain's far-right Vox party has said it should be much easier for law-abiding Spaniards to own firearms for self-defense, and use them for that purpose without legal consequences. In an interview published Wednesday by a website specializing in weapons, Santiago Abascal said that "the concept of legitimate defense needs to be widened" in Spain.

>Abascal is Vox's candidate in the upcoming general election on April 28. He has bragged in the past about carrying a handgun himself because his family was for years a target of the Basque militant group ETA.

>Under Spain's current law, that threat qualified Abascal for a firearms license which most of the nation's residents can't get.

>Guns ownership is tightly regulated in Spain. According to the U.S. Library of Congress, firearms licences for personal security are only granted to those "who can prove that a real danger to their security exists." All fully automatic weapons are "strictly forbidden to civilians," as they are in the U.S. and most other Western nations.

>Abascal, the 42-year-old leader of a party that only came into existence in 2013 and has yet to get a member elected to the nation's congress or the European Parliament, said the laws should be eased.

>"We need an urgent radical change in the law, not only so that the Spaniards without criminal records and in full use of their mental faculties can keep a weapon in their house… But so that they can use it in real life-threatening situations without fear of facing a judicial nightmare, prison sentences or even the prospect of having to pay compensation to the relatives of criminals who assaulted them," he told the "armas.es" website.

>Official statistics show that Spain's rates of homicide and burglary are lower than most of its European neighbors.

>Similar changes to those Abascal's party is pushing from the fringes of Spanish politics have are also being espoused by his European neighbors in Italy, but the Italian right-wing has already risen to power, and is getting the changes into the books.

>As CBS News reported last week, Italy's Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini and his League party, which became part of a coalition government in 2018, has already eased restrictions on how many firearms – including assault-style weapons like the AR-15 – Italians can own, and the size of magazines permitted.

>The government is also currently supporting a "legitimate defense" bill that would, among other things, decrease penalties for Italians who kill someone perceived to be a threat in their own home.

>Abascal's Vox party has thus far only got a handful of politicians elected to a regional legislature in the country's south. However, party membership jumped significantly in 2017 after a terror attack in Barcelona, and his stance on firearms is clearly aimed at framing the Vox party as tough on security ahead of the April elections.


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New Volunteer

Ladies and Gentlemen, we now have a new volunteer, Constantine the Great will now be moderating while im gone, he has usual volunteer powers and will be able to look after it while im gone.

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Destroyed tanks thread

Post some epic destroyed tank rares

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Longest lasting firearms

What are the absolutely longest lasting guns out there in terms of round count and ease of repair without specialized parts or equipment?

What guns are you buying right now so that your descendants can tote them around the wasteland circa 2220, blasting mutants with their ancestral firearm passed down through 10 generations of your family? What guns do you have that will outlive you?

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>The Italian Senate passed the new legitimate defence bill this week, liberalising the previous self-defence code and allowing citizens more options to protect their homes from burglars and other intruders.

>The reform, which modifies article 52 of the Italian penal code, now allows Italians to use “a legitimately held weapon” to protect themselves and members of their household, making it far less likely individuals will be brought up on charges for defending themselves, Il Giornale reports.

>The new changes were welcomed by populist Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior Matteo Salvini, who has previously pushed hard for self-defence reform.

>“It is a beautiful day for the Italians in which the sacrosanct right to self-defence is sanctioned,” Salvini said.

>Previously, the Lega leader had even offered to pay the legal expenses of those brought up on criminal charges for using force to protect their homes.

>“A thief comes into your house, company or store, and you defend yourself? It will be your right to do so, and the thug (and his relatives) will not be able to ask for a euro of compensation,” Salvini vowed.

>“Besides, you won’t end up on trial for years and you won’t pay your own pocket: the state will cover any legal expenses of those who defended themselves.”

>“From today the criminals know that to be a robber in Italy is more difficult: it is an even more dangerous job,” the League (Lega) leader observed

>Around 4.5 million homes in Italy have access to firearms, according to figures released in June of last year.

>33 million Italian homes have anti-theft doors, while 10 million or so have alarms and often video cameras as well.

>The new policy marks a stark contrast to the United Kingdom, where it is alleged that home defence policies have made British homeowners easy targets — to the point where Chilean criminal gangs have been known to fly in to rob British homes in what has been dubbed “burglary tourism.”

Thus proving, definitively, that gun rights can be pushed for, even in the wake of a mass shooting. The (((NRA))) has no excuse.

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Cleaning tips for some old guns?

Hey guys, I've obtained some old Mausers. I don't care to divulge anymore info than that, but they have some old dried oil inside of/on all of the steel components and it's driving my OCD crazy. Would acetone harm anything on them? Obviously I won't be dunking it, I'll be applying it carefully with q tips and I'm not a moron so I won't be taking a metal brush to anything. Is there any harm in this? I don't want to risk damaging anything, but I'd like to make them as clean as they were the day they left the factory.

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Bump Stock Ban

Ban is only a few hours away. Will Mr. and Mrs. America turn theirs in? Will ATF start kicking in doors and shooting dogs? What will happen?

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"Missing" Army Manual

I was looking through the US Army Publishing Directorate site for cool spook manuals that I hadn't heard of, and I found pic related. The interesting thing about this one, TM 31-210-2, is that as far as I can tell, there are no online versions of it. This is in stark contrast to the other two "Unconventional Warfare Devices and Techniques" publications, which are both widely available as physical and digital copies (.pdfs related)

The only library I could find that had this "missing" publication is the Australian War Memorial Library in Canberra


Have any streloks heard of this book? Why is it seemingly so unpopular compared to other similar Army manuals?

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My Congressman's district director is calling in a few hours to finalize a meeting with my new Congressman on NFA repeal. Are the any pro-2A organizations that explicitly support repeal of the National Firearms Act beyond Gun Owners of America, Second Amendment Foundation, Florida Carry and NFA Freedom Alliance? Anything you should I should bring up?

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What does /k/ think of Expedient Firearms? Any of you faggots make one?

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Texas Open Carry Swords thread

Been looking online for people walking around in Texas with swords and there's an alarming lack of pictures of autists exercising their rights. give me all the pictures you can find

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Interesting documentary

I stumbled upon a documentary about how the commander of the Serbian SAM battery met with the American pilot of the F117 downed during the Yugoslav war:



Fun facts:

- Zoltan Dani (the SAM battery commander) was offered by "the great force in the East" a service in the rank of general and a lot of money. And during the Iraq was the offer was repeated with even more money but Zoltan refused.

- In the documentary Dale (the pilot) shows the exact place where he landed and the exact ditch where he was hiding after landing.

- Dale Zelko has Slavic roots, his grandparents are from Slovenia.

- Both Dale and Zoltan visited each other's homes and families in their respective countries.

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Britbong Soldier reprimanded for not playing a "training sim" correctly



>An Army rifleman has been reprimanded after going on a ‘killing spree’ in a virtual battlefield exercise.

>In the computer game, he shot dead one of his comrades and destroyed vehicles to kill several others.

>According to defence sources, the furious squaddie from 3rd Battalion, the Rifles, got fed up with ‘playing soldiers’ on a computer screen and decided to go rogue.

>His actions amused fellow soldiers, but commanders accused him of lacking professionalism.

>A Rifles source said: ‘We’d spent two weeks sitting in front of laptops pretending we were in a really hostile urban environment – I’d challenge anyone to take it seriously for that long. All this was taking place in an office at our headquarters, when we’d rather be doing real-life soldiering outside in the fresh air. But there’s less of that sort of exercise these days because the Army has committed to Unit-based Virtual Training.

>‘We were supposed to imagine we were travelling in armoured vehicles through a really hostile built-up area; one of the lads just lost his rag and “opened fire” as it were, killing the soldier next to him. He then drove down the street deliberately smashing into cars. It’s safe to say the officers in our battalion did not find it as funny as we did.’

>After Exercise Urban Strike, the unnamed Rifleman received a dressing down from top brass and was formally charged with disobeying orders. His punishment was to spend a weekend carrying out guard duties at the 3 Rifles base at Redford Barracks in the Scottish capital.

>A Ministry of Defence spokesperson said last night: ‘We take the training of our service personnel very seriously and anyone who is disruptive to this training will receive disciplinary action. Virtual reality training programmes are able to deliver greater flexible training and replicate complex scenarios allowing for rapid experimentation, development of tactics and ability to test new vehicles in multiple environments.’

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/Vietnam Weaponry Thread/

This is a Vietnam Weaponry Thread as stated at the very top, we will be discussing the types of weaponry used by both sides(preferably the American side), be it from the smallest ounce of Napalm to the largest rounds ever launched at 120 mph toward a zipperhead's skull. Weaponry is very much wanted but equipment like type of food, clothing, communications, mobility, etc will also be accepted and pushed forward.

Debates are to be encourged, discussion to be lurked, and information to be scramble and dispersed among this thread. Any off topic ideas that has nothing to do with Vietnam will hopefully be ignored by fellow anons, or berated with the go to "faggot" diminishing as is tradition. I have not much to give as I am very new to the topic of Vietnam so I am mostly using this as a way to be more knowledgeable about the war for politicia- I mean the war to end Communism in the Southern Asian sphere of influence.







Feel free to add your own songs to the list.

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United States Space Command Commander Nominated

The President has nominated to the Senate Gen John W. "Jay" Raymond as the Commander, United States Space Command (USSPACECOM).

>If confirmed, Raymond will lead the soon-to-be established USSPACECOM, which will focus on conducting all joint space warfighting operations, and ensuring the combat readiness of global forces.

>Establishing USSPACECOM is a critical step that underscores the importance of the space domain and its strategic contributions to U.S. national security. The USSPACECOM establishment will accelerate our space capabilities to address the rapidly evolving threats to U.S. space systems, and the importance of deterring potential adversaries from putting critical U.S. space systems at risk.

>If confirmed, and upon establishment of USSPACECOM, Raymond will remain dual-hatted as Commander, Air Force Space Command, Peterson AFB, CO. Further information on the establishment of USSPACECOM will be provided when an establishment date has been determined.



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German CDU leader propose EU Aircraft Carrier-

Angela Merkel backs plan for EU aircraft carrier

Angela Merkel has voiced support for some major aspects of CDU leader Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer's EU vision. The proposals include a joint European aircraft carrier and a permanent EU seat on the Security Council.



>German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Monday endorsed some of the key European reform ideas put forward by her successor to the Christian Democratic Union leadership Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, including a joint EU aircraft carrier.

>Kramp-Karrenbauer, who succeeded Merkel as leader of the CDU in December, etched out her vision in a weekend response to French President Emmanuel Macron's proposals for European Union reform.

>Her essay included a call for a stronger EU border force, a pan-European climate pact and a common market for banking.

A joint European aircraft carrier

>In her essay, Kramp-Karrenbauer had noted that Germany and France were already working together on a future European combat aircraft and said that "the next step could be to start on the symbolic project of building a common European aircraft carrier" to underline the EU's global security role.

>Merkel, who has previously spoken in favor of greater European defence cooperation, said that a joint aircraft carrier would be a good idea in the future, but added that the bloc does "have to do other things as a priority."

>"It's right and good that we have such equipment on the European side, and I'm happy to work on it," Merkel said.

A single European seat at the Security Council

>Merkel also backed Kramp-Karrenbauer's thoughts on a single European seat in the UN Security Council, saying it was "a very good concept for the future" and would help "to gather the European voices."

>Germany has for years campaigned for a permanent seat on the UN Security Council alongside World War II victor nations the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France.

>"The fact that France is skeptical about a European seat at the UN is well-known," Merkel said.

Some divergence from Macron

>Kramp-Karrenbauer also made some proposals that diverged from Macron's vision, suggesting that the European Parliament should only sit in Brussels and remove its second seat in the northeastern French city of Strasbourg.

>She also disagreed with Macron's idea for Europe-wide coordination on minimum salaries, arguing that the "Europeanization of social services and the minimum wage would be the wrong way."

>Merkel's spokesman Steffen Seibert stressed at a news conference Monday that Kramp-Karrenbauer's plans for Europe "harmonize with the thoughts of the chancellor."


>german (((politicians))) dismantle and destroy a beautiful and perfectly functioning armed forces

>CDUcunts expect everyone to chip into a big floating joke that can be taken down with a single cruise missile from Kaliningrad/Occupied Konigsberg.

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Lockheed F-35 Dinged as Boeing's F-15X Wins in Air Force's Plan

Five-year plan calls for 48 F-35s per year, down from 54

>The U.S. Air Force outlined a five-year plan that showed the extent of the Pentagon’s push to bring back Boeing Co.’s F-15 fighter in an upgraded version, a $7.8 billion investment that would jump from eight of the planes next year to 18 each year through 2024.

>While Lockheed Martin Corp.’s newer F-35 would get $37.5 billion over the five years, the more advanced plane would still take a hit. The service now plans to buy 48 F-35s each year from fiscal 2021 through 2023 instead of the 54 previously planned.

>A week after President Donald Trump presented his proposed budget for the fiscal year that begins in October, the Air Force spelled out a longer-range five-year plan on Monday that’s sure to set off fierce congressional debate, including over the plan to buy 80 F-15X models and slow the trajectory of the F-35. That debate already has begun.

>“As our nation’s only fifth-generation stealth fighter being built today, an investment in additional production and support for the F-35 fighter fleet is critical to ensuring the U.S. maintains air superiority,” five senators said in a letter last month.

>The letter to Trump and Acting Defense Secretary Pat Shanahan was signed by Republicans John Cornyn and Ted Cruz of Texas, Lisa Murkowski or Alaska, Susan Collins of Maine and Marco Rubio of Florida. The F-35 is built in Texas, and some will be based in Alaska.

>General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the Senate Armed Services Committee last week that Pentagon officials decided to buy the F-15X partly because it’s “slightly less expensive for procurement than the F-35, but it’s more than 50 percent cheaper to operate over time and it has twice as many hours in terms of how long it lasts.”

>Among other major elements of the Air Force’s five-year plan sent to Congress:

<Northrop Grumman Corp.’s new B-21 stealth bomber would get $20 billion over the next five years, with funding jumping from $3 billion in 2020 to $5 billion in 2023. Of the $5 billion, $2.3 billion would be for the first year of major procurement.

<Boeing would get $19 billion through 2024 for purchase of 66 of its KC-46 tankers, fewer than the 75 previously planned through 2023. The new plan calls for 15 in 2021 but 12 each in 2022 and 2023, instead of the 15 previously planned each year.

<The service plans to spend $12.4 billion through 2024 procuring space systems.

<Research on the Next Generation Overhead Persistent Infrared early-warning satellite would total $11.4 billion through 2024.

<Lockheed’s F-22 fighter could see as much as $18 billion in spending for upgrades and support.

<Air Force spending on setting up and running the new Space Force is budgeted at $363 million through 2024, averaging about $72 million annually.

<Space investments for fiscal 2020 include $1.67 billion for space launch and ground service agreements pitting Elon Musk’s SpaceX against the United Launch Alliance that’s a joint venture between Lockheed and Boeing; $1.3 billion for Lockheed’s GPS-III satellites and Raytheon Co.’s OCX ground control station program; and $1 billion for satellite communications programs such as the family of “Beyond-Line-of-Sight” terminals.

<The five-year plan calls for spending as much as $8.7 billion on precision-guided weapons made by Lockheed, Boeing and Raytheon. That includes $1.4 billion on the new Small Diameter Bomb-II that can attack both fixed and moving targets in bad weather, $2 billion for the GPS-guided Joint Direct Attack Munition and $2.2 billion on the extended-range stealth Jassm missile used last year against Syrian military targets.