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44a6da No.14645855

It's still alive, I just kinda burned out. Anyway, the fully updated submissions so far are: HOMM3, Duke 3D, the GTAs, Skyrim, Mugen, and Generally. I didn't get to the other submissions yet but I have comments on some of them:

Perfect Dark: Too much praise for what is a graphical update of a 10 year old game (at time of the launch of the remake?). Seems like a cash grab to me.

Dragon's Dogma: The same except it also lacks some content?

Sonic, Hollow Knight: good submissions I just didn't get to yet.

Silent Hill: Probably should be resubmitted with the comparison section added, since when anon submitted it, it wasn't there yet. Or I might fill it but it will be from my own research (rather have someone who played the game).

Next coming is a way to modify existing submissions without writing a new one. And with that, the technical shit will be over.

44a6da No.14645906

>>14645895

Well I was more offensive in my first submissions, but was criticized, so moved the offensiveness to Gamer's Opinion section. I don't mind offensiveness in general.

dfd630 No.14645931

>>14645895

>you know what a good way to get popular support is? Why, donning this iconography that has been vilified for 70 years. Genius! I'll take my check now!

32dba9 No.14645987

Updated Sonic submission, but from the comparison section it does not seem that bad compared to mods / originals, so I would suggest adding more stuff there, like the lightning problems etc.

32dba9 No.14645993

>>14645987

And if the original submitter doesn't want to do it, I will (by lifting all the info from the blog he linked).

32dba9 No.14646003

>>14645993

Actually, I understood it wrong. Dreamcast DLC is not in the remake, but can be added through mods (the "vanilla game" threw me off). But still there should be more stuff listed.

828246 No.14646018

File: 9134ccd93e00834⋯.png (498.27 KB, 861x877, 861:877, 9134ccd93e00834c89eb163bd3….png)

>>14645895

921a4a No.14646031

>>14645895

Shame this looked interesting.

0d7962 No.14646126

>>14645912

>>14645915

>>14645931

>>14645931

>>14646018

>Unironically being this blatant about samefaggotry

>>>/reddit/

e6d74d No.14646401

>>14645855

Don't forget to mention that the Silent Hill "remaster" was done without the source code, because Konami fired the creator of the series and lost the source code after that.

This practice of not keeping the source code is a cancer that must be eliminated, and reason enough to boycott companies that are still incompetent and lazy as to not keep their source codes.

>>14645906

Be offensive ALL THE WAY.

Ignore the complains. Those are made by shills and SJWs that already want to infest your site.

>>14645915

Reported for being a leftist.

>>14645931

Redditor exposed. Talking about "muh popularity". The only thing that matters is exposing the kikes, women and shitskins ruining the industry for all to see and without receding. "Popularity" or acceptance does not matter. People will see the information, regardless if they like it or not.

32dba9 No.14646419

And of course I forgot the link again.

0efdcf No.14646968

>>14646401

>popularity doesn't matter

well it was a nice effort OP but your website will die in 4 months like onlyonconsole did.

de1a3e No.14646975

>>14646968

he's not op you cuckchanning fucktard

0efdcf No.14646981

>>14646975

where did I say he was? learn to read you idiot

52d363 No.14647001

>>14645895

>>14645906

What? Should OP have slipped in nigger faggots to sound more professional? What level are we talking about here?

de1a3e No.14647010

>>14646981

you are quoting him directly then telling him his website will be dead, if you did not mean to call the person you are quoting OP then you should have specified it, learn to speak english

0efdcf No.14647047

>>14647010

how new are you to imageboards? I'm replying to the post, summarizing his statement, and providing commentary. Lurk the fuck more you cuckchan faggot

2e6652 No.14647223

>>14645855

Well, OP, you dirty faggot, I see that you're at least no longer using the "why drm is bad" website. That shit was retarded. As for your complaints:

>Perfect Dark

This game is the definitive version, though. You get full analog stick support on a title was originally released on N64 and that had a controller configuration that was shit. You also get updated textures/graphics and online multiplayer support. Cash grab? Maybe, but at least the remaster came out 10 years after the original release, long after the original has ceased to be relevant.

>Dragon's Dogma

I don't consider it a cash grab, only because the game was never released on PC prior to being ported. They could've just ported the game with shitty textures and all, but it features full mouse and keyboard support, 60fps gameplay, all of the DLC content of the original (Dark Arisen is DLC content and they bundled it, including those fucking rings that give you special abilities), and you have access to online pawn trading. The only thing they removed were the Guts and Griffith items, but that was likely for licensing issues. The game has some modding support, so it's possible to acquire a Japanese voice pack and use it in your game.

96f9f7 No.14647338

>>14646968

There is such a thing as having principles in the face of ameliorating your output to suit the whims of the herd you know. Honesty doesn't appeal to normalfags anyway, they want some non-existent anodyne experience on the tubes when what they need is unfiltered raw voices so they're aware of actual reality. Dumbing it down and shaving off the edges does no-one any good, just make sure the entries are up to some kind of reasonable standard of writing and not just some retard shouting 'fucking shitter tits' every other word.

aed109 No.14648391

I think you got enough entries to start considering a search function. It shouldn't be hard to implement if you are using SQL for you database.

>>14646401

>This practice of not keeping the source code is a cancer that must be eliminated, and reason enough to boycott companies that are still incompetent and lazy as to not keep their source codes.

That's a common practice for Japanese games. Nips don't really care about preservation that much.

e9e412 No.14648638

Nice to know the project isn't dead. Once technical stuff is complete we can start shilling the site to normalfags to see how it does.

>>14646401

This faggot is back.

>"Popularity" or acceptance does not matter.

How hard is it to understand that the aim of the site is to be popular and show normalfags that the industry doesn't care about them so they'll look for more info on their own?

e8f4d9 No.14652224

>>14645895

Please go back to >>>/pol/ kid.

455df6 No.14652291

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>>14648638

Normalfags should be the one compromising with us, not the other way around. If you want to see what compromising with normalfags looks like, just look at every Republican president in the past 30 years (Donald Trump included). Simply put, nothing gets done and usually the biggest problem(s) is/are overlooked.

You can also look at Gamergate. PRFaggotry kills everything - that is a fact at this point.

Want my advice, OP? Keep the cold hard facts. Call out the kikes and whatever agenda they're pushing in whatever game is being reviewed. That includes race-mixing and other poz-topics.

424d79 No.14652382

File: df558683c6d7e1d⋯.png (1.55 MB, 1237x918, 1237:918, Untitled.png)

>>14652291

>Call out the kikes

I don't really blame the OP for not want to get negative attention from ((powerful people)) for calling out jews. I think just labeling the agenda game would have would good enough.

32dba9 No.14652568

>>14647223

>Perfect Dark

So…analog stick support, updated graphics and online multiplayer for a 10 year old game. Is that impressive? What if it didn't have online - could it then be shat on? With your criteria, probably every remaster ever should be praised by the site…

>Dragon's Dogma

Same as above. Of course it has mouse and keyboard support, it's on fucking PC. And no, there's zero modding support:

“There will be no official mod support for the PC version, but modding is possible at a user’s discretion and based on their rig,” Capcom told GamesBeat.

Clearly the site needs more specific policy for submissions. Especially since the Perfect Dark submission is inconsistent with SA:DX, but the remakes are not very different. SA:DX also updates graphics, increases FPS, and adds online - but it's shat on.

e9359b No.14652583

OP, listing the games on the front page with images is going to lead to really slow loading once the list is well-populated. Make it alphabetical by page, with no images.

f1c396 No.14652596

youre gonna fail to reach a wider audience and fade into obscurity

just like niche gamer

32dba9 No.14652604

>>14652583

That's how it was before, but anon's thought it was ugly. I will have both formats available, or maybe a "next page" button.

>>14652596

641c33 No.14652607

File: 817ea70783abded⋯.png (50.65 KB, 235x326, 235:326, Gthit me wit dem drills po….png)

>>14652596

Having an internal list for /v/irgins would be nice tho, wouldn't it? It doesn't need wide audiences.

32dba9 No.14652669

>>14652568

Wait no, SADX doesn't add online, just local. But the point stays.

424d79 No.14652697

>>14652596

>obscurity

>niche gamer

Wasn't that the point?

641c33 No.14652707

>>14652697

I don't like these shitters that constantly try to push the Nirvana fallacy that if you're not WOW MASS APPEAL MASS AUDIENCE you're not worth doing. Even if only /v/ knows about the list, that's good enough.

2e6652 No.14652730

>>14652568

>So…analog stick support, updated graphics and online multiplayer for a 10 year old game. Is that impressive?

>Same as above. Of course it has mouse and keyboard support, it's on fucking PC. And no, there's zero modding support:

<c-can we shit on it now guise?

I'm curious, what exactly do you want? Is it that you just want to convince other people to adopt your complaints and opinions? If that's the case, then why the fuck are you asking people to submit entries with their fucking opinion in the first place? Why not just make the website about your own opinion and without asking others for their input?

641c33 No.14652746

>>14652730

This seems like the kind of conflict that sprouts the idea of putting a voting system on the site.

d4a48b No.14652780

>caving in and making criticism normalfag friendly

OP just fucking call it like it is.

8a33c1 No.14652879

The only thing this site needs is to focus on the anti-consumer practices and convince the consumer to pay attention to the bullshit happening behind the curtains which would require the site to "seem as neutral as possible.

OP is aiming for objectivity which requires clear, concise, and professional language. Swearing, slang, and politics often undermine the appearance of objectivity which would hurt the actual goal which isn't to target Jew or Political Correctness but to inform the consumer of the anti-consumer practices that most sites ignore.

However the biggest problem with this site is the lack of content which need to be address first then we can focus on correcting any problems. We need at least 100 games on it to get normalfags to actually consider using it if they are games that came out last or this year even better.

e9e412 No.14654372

File: ae14692d214a4f6⋯.jpg (169.03 KB, 711x1000, 711:1000, ae14692d214a4f62e5de4df829….jpg)

>>14652291

>>14653005

>hurr durr fuck normalfags

>popularity shill, fuck everyone that isn't a literal KKK nazi

You fucking niggers, do I need to spell it out for you?

This is an attempt at making a purely unbiased informative site.

If it works we could get normalfags to be more aware of shitty business practices, and by normalfags I mean the big masses of normalfags, the ones that buy shitty games and then go full consumer bias to defend them, not the three normalfags that are already redpilled.

If you want to redpill people on DARPA SJWs or whatever go contribute to the GamerGate wiki.

If not then just get the fuck out, you can make your own fucking site, there's literally no reason why you should shit this one up with your ideologies.

Stop trying to subvert the site like the controlled opposition nu-/pol/ you faggots are.

dfd630 No.14654385

>>14654372

>replying to a D&C shill who is trying to tank this project with his edgy redchanit attitude

>one who is replying to everyone in the thread to bait them

nigger just report and filter.

30857c No.14654418

File: a8a4eb8a7690b2c⋯.png (118.22 KB, 664x645, 664:645, [faint Jewish laughter].png)

>>14654385

>just report

>on /v/

I bet you actually expect something to happen, holy shit.

Just call him a nigger and watch him cry and then go back to talking about the thread's topic.

641c33 No.14654509

>>14652291

The flaw with this argument is that you're assuming that if GG hadn't done PR, then anything would've been different.

What, exactly, would've not compromising language accomplished? Do you think the media and Twitter celebrities wouldn't be still shitting on GG to this day if they had been more blunt? Do you think their bluntness wouldn't have made the backlash even worse?

6c88be No.14654522

>>14654372

Anyone who neuters themselves for mass appeal is a huge fucking tool or a kike trying to pull some strings. Which one are you, Anon?

dfd630 No.14654531

>>14654509

if GG didn't do PR we wouldn't have the ethics meme which there hasn't really been anything good to come out of except sarg'n is happy now.

641c33 No.14654542

>>14654531

Fair enough, but what would we have otherwise? Even worse shit. At least GG don't get called antisemites and literally KKK.

dfd630 No.14654546

>>14654542

>At least GG don't get called antisemites and literally KKK.

you been living under a rock?

641c33 No.14654554

>>14654546

Have you? They don't get called nazis any more than the average person who talks about politics that are anywhere to the right of the far leftists.

e9e412 No.14654569

File: cc95b958c26566c⋯.jpg (35.27 KB, 727x411, 727:411, cc95b958c26566ccade1fb648a….jpg)

>>14654385

If reporting shills worked /pol/ would still be good.

>>14654522

>neuter themselves

Except that's not what I'm doing retard. I'm just presenting ideas in another way.

Give a baby a book and see what happens, the baby won't even bat an eye and, at most, will dislike it, however he'll react with glee to a simple key.

If you think there's only one way to present ideas and you are failing at spreading it because the whole entire world is dumb, you're a complete retard. To present ideas to brainwashed masses you must first introduce them in a more simple, friendly manner, like the key, to then, in time, proceed to the book.

Besides, you completely missed my point which is "why don't you fuck off and make your own site instead of subverting this one?".

e9e412 No.14654581

>>14654546

I get his idea, but he expressed himself badly.

>at least normalfags don't think GG is literal KKK nazis

would've worked better, and it is true.

ormalfags are getting more aware of stuff, even if only slightly. That wouldn't have worked nearly as well if it was just 5 guys screeching about jews on twitter before getting banned.

sage for doublepost

c4aa1a No.14654757

>>14645855

Change the gta san andreas comment, the "Hot Coffee minigame" was never enabled in the game, it was simply unused and present in the game's files.

A mod (named Hot Coffee after how CJ's girlfriends ask if he wants to come in for coffee) caused a ruckus which led to rockstar taking the blame, Rockstar then issued an update which completely removes the game files related to the nameless and unused minigame which was never officially enabled by Rockstar.

609c65 No.14654758

File: 91cefb19768344b⋯.png (5.06 KB, 1489x21, 1489:21, typo.png)

>>14645993

OS here, fix your shit mang.

609c65 No.14654813

File: ffb6d5ac49c7bd5⋯.jpg (89.28 KB, 640x500, 32:25, absolutelybarbaric.jpg)

>>14645987

Also there's no multiplayer in SADX, you're probably thinking about SA2's multiplayer. The only way to have multiplayer in SADX is to mod it in.

Holy shit get your fucking act together anon.

32dba9 No.14655178

>>14654813

? "A shared-screen multiplayer mode is included in SADX" - that's your quote.

609c65 No.14655196

>>14655178

Nah m8, I wrote "A shared-screen multiplayer mode is included in BetterSADX."

bd4f25 No.14655220

>>14654813

>>14655178

>>14655196

>A shared-screen multiplayer mode is included in SADX

This is referring to the fact that player 2 can control Tails during Sonic stages right? "shared-screen multiplayer mode" while the correct term, sounds a little more complicated then it really is, that's probably where the confusion is coming from.

c261a2 No.14655242

What's the fucking point of all this? And I'm not just talking about OP's retarded website for niggers. Why is anyone talking about this? If anyone here had a single testicle in their scrote, they would be plastering 8/v/ and 4/v/ with antisemitic rhetoric constantly. This is baby shit, and has absolutely no worth.

32dba9 No.14655259

>>14655242

>they would be plastering 8/v/ and 4/v/ with antisemitic rhetoric constantly

and that accomplishes what exactly?

e9e412 No.14655795

>>14655259

I'm 90% sure he's being ironic.

e6d74d No.14659736

Keep informing the public about the kikes and leftists, OP. Their goons are panicking here already, trying to prevent you from spreading the correct information about them.

>>14654372

This anon >>14654522 gets it.

There is no such thing as unbiased information when dealing with corrupts. The information is either incorrect/misleading, to benefit the corrupt, or correct and pointing the corrupt as the source of the bad practices.

>>14654569

Nobody is subverting the site. Exposing the truth about kikes and leftists ruining the the industry is the only way to inform the cause of the decline in services and products.

Go project somewhere else.

9b54f3 No.14661218

>>14652596

Nichegamer is doing fine though.

2626ac No.14661254

>>14659736

HelioHost (or any other free host for that matter) is going to take the site down if he exposes the leftists and the kikes. These free web hosts have very strict terms of services and I doubt OP can afford a paid host right now or run his own server.

8a33c1 No.14661271

>>14653005

"Seeming neutral" does not mean the same as "being neutral" dumbass.

That's differance between "pointing out that the Jews complaining about the NRA being anti-semitic doesn't make sense since the NRA has done nothing to warrant being called anti-semitic, they only pointed out congressmen that were supporting gun control and they happened to be Jewish" and "[SCREECHING AUTISTICALLY ABOUT JEWS]."

e9e412 No.14661360

File: 2771707cc07d4fb⋯.png (3.71 MB, 3164x3000, 791:750, 2771707cc07d4fb7897a578ae6….png)

>>14659736

>There is no such thing as unbiased information when dealing with corrupts.

How much of a fucking bizarro-SJW do you need to be?

Not everything is politic. You can expose truth and fact without having an underlying motive or agenda.

>Nobody is subverting the site. Exposing the truth about kikes and leftists ruining the the industry is the only way to inform the cause of the decline in services and products.

>Nobody is subverting the site. I just want to completely change the site to spread my agenda.

Exposing the ones behind changes was never the focus of the project, we already have GG for that or you could create an entire new project (and you still haven't explained why you don't do one of these instead of trying to change this project completely).

The focus of this site is to expose shitty business practices to get normalfags to be more aware of the game they were thinking of buying and possibly jewry in future games. It will link companies, publishers and the main figures with their products, but that's not the focus.

There's no reason why OP should go out of this way to change the project to expose literal conspiracy theories, which you already proved won't work last thread, and there's no reason why you shouldn't create your own project separated from this one.

Also, >>14661254 brings up a valid point you've never answered to.

1c4afd No.14661441

>>14646401

You are fucking retarded. In the real world, people are put off by words like nigger, kike, or even plain swear words. Get out more.

Being respectful to your audience doesn't mean you have to back down on your argument.

Would you give a public speech by screeching like a shitty brat fresh out of middle school ?

455df6 No.14661789

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>>14661360

>not everything is politic

True, but current business practices make EVERYTHING political. Case-in-point, the latest Wolfenstein game, Subnautica, Assassins Creed, Battlefield One, etc. If there weren't an organized agenda then I wouldn't call for organized resistance. We can expose the truth by telling normalfags that these games were made with the agenda in mind. It's not even a 'conspiracy' as you put - most foolishly, mind you. To write off these claims as simply 'conspiracy' is a shill tactic most foul.

>>Nobody is subverting the site. I just want to completely change the site to spread my agenda.

What the fuck are you on about? It's not completely changing the site. If anything, it's making sure the site delivers on the promise it had from the start - to expose shitty game developers. It's just as you say, we are exposing the truth. Just 'cause the truth implicates some Jewry or other leftist fuckery doesn't mean it should be thrown out of the window because 'some normalfags might get offended'.

>the purpose of this site is to expose shitty business practices

Is shoving in completely unnecessary agendas a good business practice? I think not. Like I said, exposing agendas is part of the site's original purpose.

>Why don't you create your own project separated from this one?

<Why don't you make your own movie/video game/tv show if you don't like x or y?

Obviously making a website like this is a daunting challenge indeed. Few have the resources to create it or manage it, but OP here is one of the rare ones with that opportunity. I'm not going to let it pass by without adding in my own input as to how it should be done. I want to make sure it's done right, and I want you faggots to see why.

>>14661441

Nobody is saying we need to use the words nigger, kike, or even swear words (though I think swear words are on a different, much less serious level altogether). What we should do is make sure to expose the truth. If there's a Marxist, Zionist, or other kike agenda in-game, we should let it be known. We'll let the reader decide whether or not to include slurs. You can still get the message across without using them.

2626ac No.14661826

>>14661789

>We can expose the truth by telling normalfags that these games were made with the agenda in mind.

How about we have a political bias category. It's either Yes or No and if yes, it should be explained what they are promoting (LGBT, communism, etc.).

759d0e No.14661836

>>14661826

That's a fast way to get everyone to do nothing but bicker about whether x means y or not.

e9e412 No.14661852

File: 91e8bbf163feedb⋯.jpg (28.5 KB, 500x265, 100:53, 91e8bbf163feedbd00e53e87b4….jpg)

>>14661789

>True, but current business practices make EVERYTHING political.

So? You want to fight against kikes injecting politics in everything by injecting your politics into everything?

Are you aware that there are some people who dislike kikes because, among other reasons, they inject politics into everything? Doing the exact same thing that causes hate for the other side isn't going to help your side that much.

>It's not even a 'conspiracy' as you put - most foolishly, mind you. To write off these claims as simply 'conspiracy' is a shill tactic most foul.

Conspiracy Theory as defined by Dictionary.com (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/conspiracy-theory)

"A theory that explains an event as being the result of a plot by a covert group or organization; a belief that a particular unexplained event was caused by such a group. "

Saying that leftists, marxists, kikes or whatever group caused something, e.g. politics in games, is by definition a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory means a group caused something, it has nothing to do whether it's true or false. The US government has caused the word to be, incorrectly, associated with falsehood, by spreading that definition you are either the most nigger useful idiot or the true shill.

Besides, you just proved my point. People have a knee-jerk reaction to conspiracy theories. What is your excuse now?

>Is shoving in completely unnecessary agendas a good business practice? I think not. Like I said, exposing agendas is part of the site's original purpose.

There's a difference between "they shoehorned characters in the sequel for for political reasons, effectively ruining the story with plotholes and various inconsistencies" and "THE GAME WAS MADE BY NIGGER KIKES XDDDDD". The former is telling facts in an unbiased manner, the second one is no more valid than an SJW's "you're racist because I said so".

<Why don't you make your own movie/video game/tv show if you don't like x or y?

>Obviously making a website like this is a daunting challenge indeed.

>Few have the resources to create it or manage it, but OP here is one of the rare ones with that opportunity.

Nice false analogy.

A movie takes time, recording and resources, no one would want to help you do it for free, a game is easier, but it's still harder and can be quite shitty if done incorrectly.

A website, however, is really fucking easy. OP himself said he had little to no experience in the first thread, but he decided to learn and use a free tool and the free help of anons to make the site.

If you're too fucking incompetent to learn basic html and css in five fucking minutes, you can also try wordpress or any other site like it where it literally handles you the html and css for free and all you have to do is write.

The only resources it takes is time, electricity and a computer or phone. If you're posting this you already have all that's necessary.

Besides, I'm not telling you to do it alone, I'm telling you to make a fucking thread so interested anons can help you. This fucking project started the same way, with an idea and anons willing to help. If you stop fucking bitching for a second and fucking do something instead of telling people to do it for you maybe you'll fucking achieve it, you nigger.

>I'm not going to let it pass by without adding in my own input as to how it should be done. I want to make sure it's done right, and I want you faggots to see why.

I can see you called everyone who disagreed with you a shill, but I still haven't understood why your way is the only correct way.

>You can still get the message across without using them.

That's what I fucking said, but everyone who disagrees with you is a boogeyman shill, so "hurr durr neutered speech".

e9e412 No.14661876

>>14661789

>What the fuck are you on about? It's not completely changing the site.

Is it. The message the site was made to send was "this game is bad because it does this and this", not "this game is bad because this guy is a leftist".

>If anything, it's making sure the site delivers on the promise it had from the start - to expose shitty game developers.

Not specifically game devs, but rather shitty games, telling people why they are bad and mentioning who made them. Shitty devs is not the focus.

>Just 'cause the truth implicates some Jewry or other leftist fuckery doesn't mean it should be thrown out of the window because 'some normalfags might get offended'.

When did I ever say it should be thrown out the window?

I'm not saying that we should hide that "2+2=4", I'm saying that there's no reason to put that in a fucking history book, even more so if it's a controversial fact that'll alienate readers..

The site's objective is to have a quick information about whether a game is good or bad and why, not to expose intricate conspiracies in the industry, there are other sites for that, like, again, the GG wiki.

accidentally posted too soon

- In the comparison section, you had "AI stupidity", but for consistency with the other entries, the first column is supposed to be about what the game lacks and the second about what mods have over it. So I changed it to "AI improvements". But I don't know what to do with the Russian bias.

- No Swastikas! Well, that's exactly what the censorship category is about, but I don't know if it fits "Language". Probably needs a new option. And the stuff about forums should probably go into Gamer's opinion, or perhaps the Moderation (online) section.

Thanks for the submission!

Others: Well, I will include Political Agenda category if you guys want to. So what should be the options? Feminism, homosexuality, transgenderism (?), what else?

>>14661927

Wait, the "you can't gas kikes" is about the fact that Holocaust isn't in the game, right? And it's supposed to be historical. That's definitely censorship or worse.

4842ee No.14661963

I'm having trouble understanding what the problem is. /pol/ and gg mad that not everything is about them?

4842ee No.14661968

>>14661927

>Well, I will include Political Agenda category if you guys want to. So what should be the options? Feminism, homosexuality, transgenderism (?), what else?

Ignoring my thoughts on any of that, adding the category will guarantee you won't get anywhere. Pick your battles. DRM, always online, etc. are great targets. Once you get into politics the site itself will become a politically biased mess.

>>14661957

Probably will be adding political agenda category tomorrow, and this submission will be modified. Since this is very political.

>>14661968

I don't know then. Should issues with Hearts of Iron III (for example), be ignored? Or just shove them into censorship. That's a possibility too, I guess.

>>14661971

I then need an additional option for censorship, for things like "no swastikas". Maybe just "political".

6080a6 No.14661978

>>14661971

Censorship is censorship whether it is political or not. Just don't say "kike" or HelioHost might take the site down.

>>14661978

You're right, deleted the kike shit.

455df6 No.14661998

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>>14661852

>Are you aware that there are some people who dislike kikes because, among other reasons, they inject politics into everything? Doing the exact same thing that causes hate for the other side isn't going to help your side that much

I'm not saying to put right-wing agendas in video games either, faggot. On that note, I can't think of any video games with clear right-wing agendas. You can go out on a limb and say Deus Ex: GOTY, but I feel like that game's political affiliation was ambiguous despite the relevance of politics in the story. That's how a game regarding politics ought to be done, but I digress.

I wasn't in the last thread. How can I be expected to know what happened? Got an archive, perchance?

>Saying that leftists, marxists, kikes or whatever group caused something, e.g. politics in games, is by definition a conspiracy theory.

You're missing my point. The words "conspiracy theory" carries negative connotations these days. It's usually associated with tinfoil hats, chemtrails, moon landing, etc. In other words, stuff that people don't take all that seriously. We should refrain from using the words 'conspiracy theory'. That's all I have to say on that note.

>There's a difference between "they shoehorned characters in the sequel for for political reasons, effectively ruining the story with plotholes and various inconsistencies" and "THE GAME WAS MADE BY NIGGER KIKES XDDDDD". The former is telling facts in an unbiased manner, the second one is no more valid than an SJW's "you're racist because I said so".

That's a strawman if I've ever seen one. First of all, I never said we should call out a game for being bad simply because it was made by niggers, kikes, etc. It's when those niggers/kikes/etc shove in their agenda that we need to call it out. And even then, I'm not saying we refer to them by their slurs, that's just you putting words in my mouth again, fuckin' faggot. I mentioned Subnautica, Wolfenstein, Assassins Creed and Battlefield One last post so I'll mention some more:

>Call of Duty: World War 2

>Overwatch

>Witcher 3

All I can think of off the top of me head.

>Nice false analogy

It's not false at all. Just because the workload is a little bit different doesn't mean it fails as an analogy.

>I can see you called everyone who disagreed with you a shill, but I still haven't understood why your way is the only correct way.

Again, putting words in my mouth. The only time I ever mentioned the word "shill" was because of the conspiracy theory thing, which I already covered. And my way is the only correct way lest we end up in the same pitfalls that GG did.

>That's what I fucking said, but everyone who disagrees with you is a boogeyman shill, so "hurr durr neutered speech".

Again - words are being put in my mouth. Clean up your fucking act, because you really are starting to sound like some low-effort bait poster faggot. Or maybe that was the intention all along, I don't know.

455df6 No.14662009

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>>14661968

>>14661963

>Once you get into politics the site itself will become a politically biased mess

>Adding the category will guarantee you won't get anywhere

Why the fuck is that, then? Explain to me how pointing out a game's obvious political agenda will hurt the Honest Gaming project? The objective isn't to call out an agenda and say why it's wrong - it's merely pointing an agenda out.

Plus, man, I gotta say you popping into this thread immediately throwing shit accusations at /pol/ and /gg/ really isn't helping your case.

>>14662009

Yeah, I don't see much wrong that adding a simple "political agenda" category do. Also, not having it would let slide turds like the new Baldurs Gate that pointlessly shoved in a transgender character. I will see tomorrow I guess.

c92177 No.14662027

>>14662009

Cause agendas are subjective things to determine. Look at FC5. Even anons here were buying into the "SJWs btfo" narrative for that game, when I bet anyone from /pol/ would tear it a new one and label it kike propaganda. It's not as cut and dry as censorship, shitty DLC, lootboxes, etc. And any sophist can interpret anything to mean anything else. If you really wanted to argue hard enough you could claim gone home is a true fascist game. It's just gonna bring pointless debate.

>>14662027

I don't know then. What about turds like Baldurs Gate where the dev pretty much admits it was political?

c92177 No.14662042

>>14662039

Then put it in some category like "dev bullshit". If it has some archive link to the dev spouting off about something then fine, cause that's concrete. Otherwise it's just counter productive.

6080a6 No.14662058

>>14662039

Censorship for political and social justice reasons should be included because it is still censorship. You should also include employees getting fired and voice actors getting removed from games because of political reasons (i.e JonTron being removed from Yooka-Laylee).

4842ee No.14662077

>>14662009

You can retrofit political bias onto almost everything. A subjective line has to be drawn, and it is not obvious where to place it, especially since the ideologies and beliefs of individual characters don't necessarily tell you anything about the writers. Yes, you can find obvious extreme cases, like Mass Effect, where the main characters go on about privilege and gender, but then there are borderline cases that are very muddy, unlike everything else the site is doing. Even censorship is cut and dry. Either something that was meant to be there was cut out, or it wasn't. But does a game have a political bias? Now you potentially have a very big debate on your hands, and no consensus.

I stand by what I said. Is this website going to muddy itself with politics by the advice of /pol/ or is it going to dedicate itself to objective description?

e6d74d No.14662153

OP, see the desperation in those in league with the leftists and kikes, and know that exposing them all with names, info and pictures, is the right thing to do.

>>14661254

Keep backups and change logs to reup the site or even change to another free host whenever it gets shut down. Use even onion for that matter, if things get ugly.

Not exposing the truth is the only unacceptable action.

>>14661360

Again, exposed as a D&C shill. This anon >>14661789 already explained it better than i could.

The purpose of the site IS to expose the truth and point out the anti-consumer practices. And that con only be done by exposing the groups behind them.

Alerting consumers can only be done by getting political. When the companies started getting political, so must the consumers and any informative outlet, including Honest Gaming.

e9e412 No.14662190

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>>14661927

>>14661977

Political fits, I think, since it's pretty much what it is and doesn't fit any other category.

>>14661963

>/pol/ and gg

Nah, /pol/ isn't retarded and GG mostly stays to it's own projects, it's just nu-/pol/.

>>14661998

>I'm not saying to put right-wing agendas in video games either, faggot.

I never said in video games, I said on the site. I said we should make it unbiased, you literally argued against that with

>True, but current business practices make EVERYTHING political.

On that note, I can't think of any video games with clear right-wing agendas.

Noah's ark :^)

Shitposting aside, I don't remember any that was clearly right wing on purpose. Though there's probably some indie games like that.

>I wasn't in the last thread. How can I be expected to know what happened? Got an archive, perchance?

No archive. Though, if you aren't actually just "t-that was another anon", pretty much the same thing just happened. I said people have knee-jerk to conspiracy theories, the retard had a knee-jerk reaction to the word "conspiracy theory" and it followed with me giving the definition.

>You're missing my point. The words "conspiracy theory" carries negative connotations these days. It's usually associated with tinfoil hats, chemtrails, moon landing, etc. In other words, stuff that people don't take all that seriously.

You are missing my point. It is literally a conspiracy theory. How are you going to defend yourself when kikes go "it's just a conspiracy theory site"? Will you just "i-it is, b-but don't use that word" like you are now?

People will still access the site, but a literal conspiracy theory will alienate the masses, which is the people we aim to inform in this project.

>We should refrain from using the words 'conspiracy theory'.

How much of a little pussy bitch can you be? The government is fucking your vocabulary by attributing meanings to words to get them out of use, so you'll just let the kikes win and stop using the words? Fucking nu-/pol/ faggot.

>That's a strawman if I've ever seen one.

It's obviously exaggerated on purpose, but the point still stands.

>First of all, I never said we should call out a game for being bad simply because it was made by niggers, kikes, etc.

That's what you implied with "Keep informing the public about the kikes and leftists" and I argued against that.

>It's when those niggers/kikes/etc shove in their agenda that we need to call it out.

How are you going to call it out?

If it's just with "X was done for political reasons. Most likely done by Mr. Y push for politics since the first game he's been involved with: Z", then I have no problem against it, I'm arguing that it should be done that way. The masses will be aware of shitty practices and the smarter ones will notice how many last names end in "berg".

Now, if you want to inject literal conspiracy theories "X was done because Y, a jew, entered the company", then we have a problem. If you have such a fucking knee-jerk reaction to a a word, a representation of an idea, how do you imagine the masses of brainwashed normalfag masses will react when faced with the idea itself?

>And even then, I'm not saying we refer to them by their slurs, that's just you putting words in my mouth again, fuckin' faggot.

So you want to write "X, who is a jew,", "Y, who is black", "Z, who's a leftist" after each name? Because that loops back to the same fucking problem.

>I mentioned Subnautica, Wolfenstein, Assassins Creed and Battlefield One last post so I'll mention some more:

Games have political ideologies shoehorned in, I know that, everyone here knows that. You're preaching to the choir.

>It's not false at all. Just because the workload is a little bit different doesn't mean it fails as an analogy.

It is when you're using it as a comparison of workload. You can write a paragraph and start a free site, a game, as shitty as it can be, needs actual work.

>Again, putting words in my mouth. The only time I ever mentioned the word "shill" was because of the conspiracy theory thing, which I already covered.

>Again - words are being put in my mouth. Clean up your fucking act, because you really are starting to sound like some low-effort bait poster faggot. Or maybe that was the intention all along, I don't know.

Not trying to do it on purpose, I just mistook you for this retard >>14662153 , since I don't usually check ids.

>And my way is the only correct way lest we end up in the same pitfalls that GG did.

What do you mean by that?

>>14662153

>So? You want to fight against kikes injecting politics in everything by injecting your politics into everything?

>Are you aware that there are some people who dislike kikes because, among other reasons, they inject politics into everything? Doing the exact same thing that causes hate for the other side isn't going to help your side that much.

e9e412 No.14662200

>>14661927

Also, wasn't the swastika only censored in the german version, or did they remove it on all versions on a latter update? You might want to mention it if they removed it post release or only in one version.

I remember my game having actual nazis.

6080a6 No.14662279

>>14662153

How do you think you can expose every kike, fag, shitskin, leftist, etc in the industry? Not everyone is going to disclose their ethnicity, politics, and/or sexual orientation. There can be someone who looks white and has a white last name but is actually mixed race, and not every developer has their picture available to the public. Also, what about people who publish their games (pseudo)-anonymously? They can publish their game without giving a single detail about him/herself.

>Keep backups and change logs to reup the site or even change to another free host whenever it gets shut down. Use even onion for that matter, if things get ugly.

That's not going to work. Haven't you notice that web hosts, domain registrars, and other internet infrastructure companies are trying to censor alt-right and neo-nazi sites? Hell, people are trying to get sites like InfoWars off the internet. And moving to a tor hidden service or some P2P network like ZeroNet just defeats the purpose.

3f0e28 No.14662304

>>14645855

Stop appealing to normalfags.

File: 6a24e376492a5c8⋯.gif (765.45 KB, 350x249, 350:249, tony stark sees a bottle o….gif)

>the people ITT are acting like my political strawman from the very first thread

e9e412 No.14662370

>>14662279

>And moving to a tor hidden service or some P2P network like ZeroNet just defeats the purpose.

This. Plus, didn't TOR got that ebil white power site off the air or something?

That said, OP should still keep backups.

60d84c No.14662379

GTA SA has many graphical effects cut out which can be returned via a graphics patch.

>SAMP

Nigger list MTA. It has a far higher player capacity and allows for mods.

2cbea8 No.14662413

>>14662322

Enlighten us. Got a screencap?

e9e412 No.14662425

Just noticed there's no publisher option, how about adding it in since sometimes publishers are what fuck the game over?

113c6d No.14662433

>>14662425

There is no benefit whatsoever to making a distinction between the developer and the publisher. They work together, as a unit, and both are equally guilty at the end of the day.

e9e412 No.14662508

>>14662433

>There is no benefit whatsoever to making a distinction between the developer and the publisher.

There is. Take these two games I just took of wikipedia since I'm too lazy to look for a better example, for example.

>World Series of Poker (video game)

>Developer: Left Field Productions

>Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning

>Developer: Mythic Entertainment

90% won't even know who the hell those devs are and buy the game thinking it must be good, but then you take a look at the publishers, the first one was published by Activision and the second one by EA and that information is valuable. You are now aware that it's from a company with top jew tactics, as opposed to some no name new company.

When you attack devs, you're only attacking the hydra's head. A company can simply make or purchase a new studio, even more so in the case of EA and its aggressive takeover tactics.

When you know the devs who made it, you can compare it with the recent games to see how the gameplay will end up. When you know the publisher's studio, you know what sort of dirty kike tricks they'll try.

I'm not saying one is guilty and the other is not, they're both cunts, but both are equally important to the consumer to know.

>>14662413

>got a screencap

>of my own posts

Fuck no, I'm not a nigger.

6080a6 No.14662513

>>14662370

>didn't TOR got that ebil white power site off the air or something?

No. Someone made a pull request to the tor repository that allowed exit nodes to blacklist hate speech sites, but it got rejected. The only thing the tor project did officially was tweet that they were against The Daily Stormer and that they celebrate diversity.

e9e412 No.14662775

>>14662513

>The only thing the tor project did officially was tweet that they were against The Daily Stormer and that they celebrate diversity.

Oh, I must've mistaken it for something then. It was probably a joke I took seriously.

f35f4b No.14664168

>>14664129

3e7857 No.14666949

Nier submission added. Thanks! Changed Hearts of Iron pic to a sane size. Added "political" option in Censorship category to all current submissions (now got an automatic way of doing that). Option modifier is coming soon. Also, couldn't find a Nier cover with a sane size. This one loads long.

e6d74d No.14667737

>>14662190

It will. It is not "injecting politics" that is hated. It is leftist politics. You are trying to cover for the kikes, leftists, feminists and minorities while they are the reason for anti-consumer practices.

The cause must be exposed, always.

>>14662279

By digging information relentlessly. and even if some can't be exposed, those that can MUST be exposed. The point it exposing the responsible and making the direct connection between them and the downfall of the industry, not how many of them can be exposed or not.

You talk like if we can't get all culprits, we should not pursue their crimes at all.

Expose the kikes and leftists (with names and photos) in the industry as being the direct cause of the industry going to shit.

As for censorship, KEEP REUPING THE SITE. No matter how many times it gets taken down, keep it up by whatever means. There is no point in hiding the information about kikes and leftists just to keep the site up. If companies are trying to erase those sites, fight back until THEY cease and desist.. That is how it is done.

As for Tor, if every other option becomes unavailable, it is the only way, for a short time. The objective is to make the site be kept alive, no matter how many try to censor it. It will be talked about, spread among normalfags, and accessed sooner or later.

72b609 No.14667743

>>14667737

Fuck off nigger.

e6d74d No.14667748

>>14667743

Reported for covering for kikes and leftists.

72b609 No.14667765

>>14667748

Oh wow, you sure showed me. Better make it a global report for the severity of my crimes.

1e7a73 No.14667811

>>14646401

>People will see the information, regardless if they like it or not.

lol no they wont. Not without publicity. There's more information on the internet than people can look at in their entire lives if they tried. If no one wants to share what you're sharing then it just becomes a memetic dead end at you.

e9e412 No.14668820

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>>14667737

>It will. It is not "injecting politics" that is hated. It is leftist politics.

So you are trying to inject your politics into shit?

How about you just get the fuck out and make your own project if you are so much of a little bitch that everything that doesn't pander to you offends you?

>You are trying to cover for the kikes, leftists, feminists and minorities while they are the reason for anti-consumer practices.

How exactly am I covering for them?

>As for censorship, KEEP REUPING THE SITE. No matter how many times it gets taken down, keep it up by whatever means. There is no point in hiding the information about kikes and leftists just to keep the site up. If companies are trying to erase those sites, fight back until THEY cease and desist.. That is how it is done.

>As for Tor, if every other option becomes unavailable, it is the only way, for a short time. The objective is to make the site be kept alive, no matter how many try to censor it. It will be talked about, spread among normalfags, and accessed sooner or later.

>just keep changing the site URL and go to TOR if needed, normalfags will magically find their way into the site and get redpilled

How delusional can you be?

e6d74d No.14672087

>>14645855 (OP)

See, OP. The shills are on full force trying to prevent you from exposing their allies as the responsible for the decline of the industry.

Expose the jews, leftists, women and shitskins with names and photos, as the responsible for the anti-consumer practices.

Create a database that can be checked whenever some anti-consumer practice is cited, and link it to the individuals and groups responsible for that.

>>14667765

>>14668820

It is not just "my" politics. It is exposing the groups responsible for ruining the industry for consumers. No amount of derailing will change the fact that jews, women, leftists and shitskins ARE the reason that the industry is falling appart.

Exposing them is the only right thing to do. Not exposing them is hiding the cause of the decline. Simple as that.

You talk about other projects or being delusional. Like a shill covering for the interests of whatever group you depend upon.

The site, and ANY informative outlet, must always be about exposing the truth about those groups responsible for the industry's fall.

And what is delusional about maintaining the site even by onion if needed, if it gets censored? What is it? Tell me. What can't be done by reuping and keep pushing until the censors tire out?

e9e412 No.14672602

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>>14672087

>It is not just "my" politics.

>just

So you are injecting them regardless, that's what I'm against.

>No amount of derailing

You say that, but you are the one derailing the thread.

>will change the fact that jews, women, leftists and shitskins ARE the reason that the industry is falling appart

No one is contesting that, you don't need to keep repeating the same thing, what we're arguing is whether the site should shift it's focus towards exposing politics and be a GG wiki copy, which only you and the other anon seem to agree on.

>Not exposing them is hiding the cause of the decline.

Again, I'm not saying not to expose them, I'm telling you two things, one: don't have a literal blacklist, have pages that connect people to the games they've made and let people see the shitty practices they pushed in the past, so people can't complain we're ebil nazees pursuing them for no reason or whatever they might try to use to discredit the site.

And two: don't go out of your way to link people to groups, if a jew did a kike thing, for example, smart users will notice the recurring "goldstein" and more brainwashed normalfags will just think of the same as "guy who did shitty games". Putting "X, who is a jew", "Y, a nigger", etc, after every single name is going to alienate normalfag masses, give SJWs massive target to attack and possibly get the site off the air as hate speech or whatever gay shit they come up with.

>You talk about other projects or being delusional. Like a shill covering for the interests of whatever group you depend upon.

You say that, but I could also claim you are a shill for pushing things that would obviously be the downfall of the site.

Besides, you still haven't answered why another project is such a bad thing. It would end counterproductive discussion and possibly generate another site which, according to yourself, would be a good thing.

>The site, and ANY informative outlet, must always be about exposing the truth about those groups responsible for the industry's fall.

Except that's not the objective of the site. The objective is to show normalfags, with empirical evidence and a language that won't scare them, the kike shit the industry is doing. Eventually some will seek more knowledge and fall upon places like the GG wiki.

Calling everyone a kike, nigger, leftist or whatever is going to completely kill any chances you had of reaching the masses instead of a small group who, most likely, are already aware of the shitty practices the site seeks to expose, regardless of the validity of the information.

How so?

Steam has some groups like "denuvo watch", "uplay watch", "microtransactions watch" and others with equally creative names, that simply tell a subscribed user whether that game has or not any of those anti-consumer practices in a single sentence, it does not need, at any time, to expose anyone responsible for it, though it's users may get curious and find that out on their own.

>And what is delusional about maintaining the site even by onion if needed, if it gets censored?

Literally nothing wrong with that argument I didn't say. I said that wanting to change the site around and go to TOR is delusional if you want to reach normalfags.

Government disinfo has progressed to the point where TOR is nothing more than the "portal to the darkweb where there's only porn, drugs and hired guns", anyone willing to touch is most likely not a normalfag, and therefore not the main cash cow of the industry, and therefore not someone we want to specifically reach to if we want to really hurt the industry.

>What can't be done by reuping and keep pushing until the censors tire out?

You're implying they'd get tired, they wouldn't. That said, simply by removing a single link we'd lose a considerable fraction and cost them nothing. When we eventually move into the danknet, the site would lose all credibility with normalfags and would most likely be forgotten by many and only accessed by a small number of people, most of which are probably in this thread.

If you want to fight kikes in kike territory, you need to, at the very least, make they believe you are playing by their rules. Being that blatant about it is going to be the downfall of the project.

5a0863 No.14675797

>>14645895

Grow up.

e6d74d No.14677149

>>14645855

Again, OP. See all this "cease and desist' coming from the allies of the corrupt companies. See their desperation in trying to shift attention away from the groups that they are allied with.

Expose the jews, leftists, women and shitskins as the responsible groups for the declining of the industry.

>>14672602

Yes. I am injecting them, as it must be done when dealing with the industry falling apart because of the other's politics.

Why are YOU trying to hide those responsible for this?

And exposing them is not shifting the focus. Is adding to it. Expose the practices AND the responsible for those practices.

Why do YOU want to hide the responsible groups?

Getting the exposure of those groups to be repeated every single time that a new anti-consumer practice IS working well with normalfags. Their association capability is only possible by repetition.

As for attacks, fight back.

Why the hell YOU want the site to "shut up and don't mention them, or they will attack"? SJWs and jews will attack regardless of being mentioned or not. Might as well expose them constantly, and again, making backups to keep the site alive by any means, whenever it is taken down.

Other projects are already being enacted. And every single one of them, including this very site, must expose the groups behind the anti-consumer practices. Hiding amounts to nothing, unless you are covering for one of those groups cited.

As for alerting, what is achieved by exposing the practices and not the responsible? The jews, women and leftists simply move to another project, and the consumer is left in a endless "report and avoid" situation, when they could do better by knowing (by name and photo) who enables those practices, and avoid the individuals altogether, all at once.

As for Tor, disinfo did not affect normalfags. It made them want to know more about TOR and onion. The mindset of normalfags is to search for what they perceive as "the cool new thing", and TOR and all the disinfo associated with it only made it be more desired by normalfags. Even 8chan itself is atracting normalfags, as most of them are exposed to 8chan via the SJW hate, and thus, made curious about this place.

And about tiring out the groups: they ARE getting tired and failing every single time.

Again, you expose yourself as one of them, by claiming that "we need to play by their rules".

We don't. What must be done is the exact opposite: play by any rules that ruin THEIRS, and expose them.

>>14675797

We will keep exposing your allies, impotent leftist.

Your corrupt companies of choice will be ruined. And there is nothing that you can do about it.

e9e412 No.14678179

File: a8b650607e96868⋯.jpg (318.3 KB, 1280x837, 1280:837, a8b650607e968688b9ebe52467….jpg)

>>14677149

>See their desperation

If anything, you seem like the desperate one in here.

>Yes. I am injecting them, as it must be done when dealing with the industry falling apart because of the other's politics.

Then it loops back to my original argument.

>Are you aware that there are some people who dislike kikes because, among other reasons, they inject politics into everything? Doing the exact same thing that causes hate for the other side isn't going to help your side that much.

>Why are YOU trying to hide those responsible for this?

I'm not. There's a difference between hiding the truth and not fucking a chance you have by autistically going on about conspiracy theories.

Other methods aren't working as well as we need them to, there's literally nothing wrong with trying another different method simultaneously to see if it works better and complements the faults in the other.

>And exposing them is not shifting the focus. Is adding to it. Expose the practices AND the responsible for those practices.

Or we could not be a jack of all trades and focus more on each point, being more effective at both. You are adding to the focus, but you're spreading our resources.

It's best to let people who want to expose shitty practices on the shitty practices site and people who want to expose kikes on the exposing kikes site.

Also, if plain repetition is enough for you, you still haven't explained why you are trying so hard to change this project instead of just making yet another project or simply mirroring the GG wiki.

>Getting the exposure of those groups to be repeated every single time that a new anti-consumer practice IS working well with normalfags.

How so?

Project Downpour or whatever it was called was effective because gamergate showed the normalfags empirical proof that something was happening and gave them the bare minimum about who did it as to not alienate the people who were supporting it: "the translation group". At no point did they need to sperg out about leftists and kikes or incite a witch hunt by plastering the pictures of anyone tangentially involved with the translation all around twitter, and I can guarantee you that if they did, it wouldn't be as effective.

When was the last time nu-/pol/ achieved anything positive with normalfags?

>Why the hell YOU want the site to "shut up and don't mention them, or they will attack"?

Your straw man might, but I don't.

There's a difference between mentioning "X, the CEO of the company" and "X, a fucking kike". You mention them when needed, just in a seemingly innocent manner.

>SJWs and jews will attack regardless of being mentioned or not. Might as well expose them constantly, and again, making backups to keep the site alive by any means, whenever it is taken down.

They will attack us regardless, so you want to justify their attacks? How much of a retard can you be?

It's better to speak softly, but speak of truths that will hurt them so normalfags will notice the censorship than to sperg out like a retard and have normalfags think "well… they did deserve it.".

>Other projects are already being enacted. And every single one of them, including this very site, must expose the groups behind the anti-consumer practices. Hiding amounts to nothing, unless you are covering for one of those groups cited.

Are all of those projects combined enough? If not, what is it you have against trying a different project simultaneously to see if it complements the others?

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e9e412 No.14678180

>As for alerting, what is achieved by exposing the practices and not the responsible?

We get normalfags aware of these practices so they'll be more vocal against anti-consumer practices the next time they spot them. They don't even need to know who did it, just what was done.

However, that's only if you don't name the responsible, which I'm not proposing we do. Name people involved if they're important enough and, most importantly, name publishers.

A publisher can't be remade in a day. By having the normalfags aware of shitty publishers, a few key personnel and shitty practices, the industry should suffer a heavy blow.

>The jews, women and leftists simply move to another project, and the consumer is left in a endless "report and avoid" situation, when they could do better by knowing (by name and photo) who enables those practices, and avoid the individuals altogether, all at once.

If the product suffers, they won't get funding, and eventually it'll be a money drain for kikes. Besides, you're implying pseudonyms don't exist and people always throw all of their info around all the time, which, while true for normalfags, isn't true for kikes .

>As for Tor, disinfo did not affect normalfags. It made them want to know more about TOR and onion. The mindset of normalfags is to search for what they perceive as "the cool new thing", and TOR and all the disinfo associated with it only made it be more desired by normalfags.

You're talking as if it drove people in masses to TOR. It didn't.

Normalfags want to know about TOR and ask anyone remotely tech savvy about it, however, they make no attempt and resist any thought of actually accessing it by themselves, and might even be hostile towards people who do.

>Even 8chan itself is atracting normalfags, as most of them are exposed to 8chan via the SJW hate, and thus, made curious about this place.

>around 2k users

Wow, look at all those normalfags! Redpilling all of these would certainly destroy the kikes XD!

Stop being a fucking retard. If you actually think some random no gf normalfag loser that stumbled upon r9k is the representative of all normalfags you are completely delusional.

Normalfags flood to the neutered PC safe space that is halfchan and pat themselves on the back for accessing the dark net.

>And about tiring out the groups: they ARE getting tired and failing every single time.

They aren't getting tired, they're getting impatient, and, as far as I am concerned, they are still winning.

Sitting around screeching about kikes and saying anyone who rejects your propaganda isn't worthy to be redpilled isn't going to accomplish you shit.

If you want to do anything you need to try different methods, continuing the ones that succeed, but never stopping trying new ones. Lest your methods grow stale and are quickly destroyed or subverted by the kikes.

>Again, you expose yourself as one of them

>'If I keep calling him a shill hard enough, maybe I'll win the argument"

>by claiming that "we need to play by their rules".

What part of "make they believe you are playing by their rules" didn't you understant.

I'm not saying we should bow down to kikes, I'm saying we should write in cursive so niggers can't read it.

>We don't. What must be done is the exact opposite: play by any rules that ruin THEIRS, and expose them.

And how exactly do you plan on doing that if you keep making yourself an easy target to straw man and making it seems like their censorship is justified?

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4f1cdf No.14678495

>>14645895

>>14647001

>>14652224

It seems like a guy, or a group of people are derailing threads on this and other boards, using this same script:

Shill 1 says something extremely dumb; shill 2 replies with a "go back to /pol/".

Seems like we are having a shillwave trying to divide the boards

8a33c1 No.14678739

>>14678495

Very likely.

169e3c No.14678768

>>14678180

>>14678179

Stop replying to him, you fucking idiot.

8a33c1 No.14682837

f41a97 No.14682846

File: 20f37e7375b3267⋯.gif (416.65 KB, 380x298, 190:149, cia and bane dance.gif)

>>14682837

WITH NO SURVIVORS

4f67d2 No.14683203

File: 57ec73416f6a6d6⋯.png (359.42 KB, 951x1143, 317:381, who is.png)

e6d74d No.14683779

>>14678179

Your argument always boils down to "hide the groups responsible for anti-consumer practices".

Again, you exposed yourself by calling it "conspiracy theory", when it is already proven that jews, women and minorities, as well as any leftist, work in game companies for the sole purpose of spreading leftist agenda and to take away as many money as they can without delivering on their promises.

Massive exposure always work. You have the most recent example of the whole Battlefront II fiasco, where normalfags actively went against the company responsible AND the people responsible, without backing away because of some (perceive) fear of being ostracized that you claim so much that will happen.

Exposing the jews, women and leftists involved in that fiasco worked then, it will work now and it will work from now on.

As for "spreading resources", you are already trying to cover your own actions. The shit practices go hand in hand along with kikes, women and all else. Exposing one IS exposing the others. There is no "expose only shit practices" separated from "exposing kikes, women, leftists, etc". The exposure is one and the same. Unless, again, you are trying to hide the groups responsible for the practices, to cover for them, as it is becoming clear.

Exposing the groups is REQUIRED to expose the shit practices. You call it a change, when it is part of the same goal. They are not opposite, they are not separated aspects and they are not a change in focus. They are part of the same goal, and required to be done together.

As for me, i am doing a similar project that hopefully, will be opened soon for contribution.

About project Dounpour: another example of the "endless awareness and coming back". Exposing the practices only made normalfags avoid those particular companies and groups. Then, the corrupt moved to new groups and started over. By exposing the individuals, their names, their photos, and any other personal information, they can be avoided altogether and never be able to come back to ruin the industry.

And if you think that /pol/ does not achieved anything, you are either deliberately trying to do a cease and desist, or aren't even reading the news about all the recent attacks on mainstream media and kikes, made by normalfags themselves, after /pol/'s influence on them.

As for mentioning, it is simply a matter of doing both: "X, the CEO of Y company, and he is a kike/leftist/shitskin" or "X is the responsible for the anti-consumer practice, and she is a woman" whenever some practice is exposed. simply adding (with minimal effort) the information about WHO is responsible, at the end of the sentence, is already good enough to make normalfags avoid those groups, which IS the goal of information regarding the practices initiated by said groups.

As for "justifiying" attacks, again, covering for your allies, right? What the hell "justifying" or not amounts to? Nothing. They will keep creating entirely false justification for it, so the right course is ALWAYS to fight back. Not to hide. Unless, again, you are one of them. Why are you so scared of meeting resistance? Or why do you concern so much about a (perceived and false) notion of normalfags not liking the exposure of individuals, when it is already happening and the same normalfags are embracing the exposure instead of being repelled by it?

I don't have anything against different projects, when they ARE different. Exposing the anti-consumer practices is NO different than exposing the kikes/leftists/women/shitskins, and must always be done together. You are the one that is trying to present them as different actions, when in reality they are reqired to be done together in any instance.

"They don't even need to know who did it…"

Confirmed for covering for them. Normalfags DO need to know who enabled those practices. Not only that, they WANT to know and they are are starting to fight against those groups. What informational outlets must do is to expose even more, so not only more normalfags become aware of the groups responsible, but become enraged at those groups as well as they hate the practices themselves.

e6d74d No.14683781

>>14683779

As for funds, they always receive funds. The government of some countries are directly funding leftist products, no matter how failed and costly they are. Only by making the normalfags hate the groups themselves as much as they hate the practices, can the practices be eradicated, for the enormous backlash that the normalfags will generate against the responsible for them. Pseudonyms are irrelevant. Expose who is already known to be responsible, with photos AND names. Whenever some shaddy individual pops up without his or her real name and picture, normalfags will already be on alert as this being a possible kike/leftist/woman trying to sneak into the industry again, after being exposed. Again, your agurment amounts to "if there is a way for then to hide, nothing must be done against them". Typical of someone trying to cover for his friends.

And about Tor, you are agin, misinformed. Or do you live in some echo chamber? Normalfags are using Tor en masse already. They just don't abandon other means. They keep using both. And most importantly, they AREN'T avoiding it or being hostile to those that use it. They are embracing and inviting more normalfags to use it. 8chan included.

As a side note: why are you so concerned about "destroying the kikes" to say this this way, when all the argument was about exposing the kikes and attacking their companies? Kike in disguise, i presume.

And exposed again, when said that the leftists and kikes are winning. They are losing everything and becoming impacient exactly because of that. And that is precisely why massive exposure must be pushed even faster and harder than before.

As for the method and your final question, it was already answered: the method of exposing kikes/leftists/women/shitskins is the one that produced the best results, and is the one that i am proposing since the beginning for this new site, and it is the one that always win against those groups' subversion. It is never destroyed. It always increases. And those groups are shrinking and getting tired for their constant failures. Pushing them harder is the right way to completely eliminate their influence on the industry.

e9e412 No.14689241

File: ce4c2a07d3b7866⋯.jpg (404.65 KB, 1527x1080, 509:360, ce4c2a07d3b78665663abb40bf….jpg)

How should we go about writing multiple versions of the same game?

I was thinking of writing about the MGS Legacy collection, since it's pretty good for it's price, but also about the games themselves since 4 is an interactive movie.

Is the title redundancy fine, since it's talking about different stuff, or should entries be more centralized?

>>14678495

>script

I'm guessing it's either just paid retards or nu-/pol/ retards.

>>14678768

But it's fun.

>>14683779

>all these straw men

>my special brand of normalfags browses TOR, 8ch and wants to gas kikes, therefore everyone is like this

>nu-/pol/ is /pol

>battlefront 2 worked but downpour didn't

>d-don't destroy jews, just yell about kikes, that'll work, fellow anonymous

>don't do anything, ignore the rapefugees, le alt right is winning

Wew.

Do you hate kikes? If so, why?

Do you think current tactics are enough?

If they are already enough, what is your problem with other people trying another tactic, regardless of what it is? If not, then what is your problem with trying a different tactic that might compliment it's faults?

3e7857 No.14689346

OP here. I didn't do anything on the weekend. Will work on the option modifier today. Anyway, I've added Touhou submission - thanks!

>>14689241

Well, I don't know anything about Metal Gear, but probably the collection should have an entry, and if you want to write something about the individual games, that goes into Gamer's Opinion.

Also, since it seems I have to get into this…the site won't be a "kike database". Forget about it.

3e7857 No.14689358

>>14689346

But actually, I'm not sure if being an "interactive movie" should be held against a game. We're entering game review territory then…and you know, some people like interactive movies.

3e7857 No.14689364

>>14689358

If that's something that SHOULD be held against a game, then I guess many more things could be added. Causalization, etc…for now Gamer's Opinion is the place, I guess.

3e7857 No.14689465

>>14689364

Anyway, updated Silent Hill submission. Deleted "DRM-free" since the consoles have DRM (as the submitter admitted).

e9e412 No.14689504

>>14689346

Alright, I'll try writing it today then.

>>14689358

It's not "interactive movie" as in quicktime events in cutscenes and all that, by "interactive movie" I mean there's literally 6 hours of cutscenes and about 20 minutes of gameplay.

Each mission is in about 5 short maps that doesn't last long and is prefaced by a 1+ hour long intro.

The gameplay is still good, the story is a really good ending to snake's story and the boss fights are some of the best in the series, but it's still fucking retarded.

I'll keep it to gamer's opinion though.

>>14689465

>since the consoles have DRM

You mean the default console DRM or did the slit eye kikes throw in a DRM on top of that?

e9e412 No.14689518

>>14689504

>You mean the default console DRM or did the slit eye kikes throw in a DRM on top of that?

Is the site under high traffic right now or is the serb fucking up?

e9e412 No.14689540

>>14689346

>Cut content: graphic

Shouldn't graphic be about graphic content(e.g. violence) as opposed to literal graphics?

Also, I think gameplay doesn't fits, since you're not taking gameplay itself away from the game, just character and their attacks.

4ce55f No.14689607

>>14689504

If you think it's appropriate, I can add a category "Cutscene amount", or "Cutscene / gameplay ratio".

e9e412 No.14690504

>>14689607

I was just going to talk about it in the gamer's opinion, but that sounds good.

Average playthrough time | Total cutscene time?

A 60 dollars game having 3 times the gameplay isn't much if it's 15 minutes total.

42af62 No.14690782

Reddit-halfchan's here

6d62fe No.14690970

>>14690504

Maybe it's cleaner to split that into two categories. Either way, I'd need to update the other submissions with the gameplay times, and I can't do that with anon's submissions (unless I just lift the data from somewhere else). Maybe "Cutscene percentage" would be better.

Anyway - new feature is in! You can now change the amount of games displayed in a page, and move through the pages. This should be useful when the amount of submissions increases. Default is 15.

e9e412 No.14691178

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>>14690970

>Either way, I'd need to update the other submissions with the gameplay times, and I can't do that with anon's submissions (unless I just lift the data from somewhere else).

Howlongtobeat.com has a good average of time to beat something, you could just take the amount of time for the main story and subtract it from the cutscene time (you can usually find it easily on youtube) and there you go.

>You can now change the amount of games displayed in a page, and move through the pages.

Nice.

Change the previous to before next though, that shit is triggering me.

6d62fe No.14691251

>>14691178

Well this is actually tough. If we're holding low gameplay time against a game, then probably we should give the game the benefit of doubt. For example, Hitman: Contracts is listed as 10 hours on that site, but if you try to get Silent Assassin in all missions, or even just beat the missions in more than one way (which is actually FUN), then it's much, much more than 10 hours.

6d62fe No.14691261

>>14691251

And what do you think the options should be - less than 10 hours, 10-20, 20-50, 50-100, 100+?

e9e412 No.14691425

>>14691261

Since it's going to be divided in category, how about just average time to beat the main story, according to the site, as well as gameplay:cutscene ratio?

I'm too lazy to look it up right now, but from what I remember about average times right now, that seems like it'd work best.

<1 for extremely short games

1-5 for your average shit AAA

6-10 for a slightly more packed modern AAA

11-25 for a relatively decent game

and the others for more complete or possibly grindy games, separating them in large chunks to show just how large they are without cluttering the category.

6d62fe No.14691481

>>14691425

But again, that would harm games like Hitman, where you can easily beat the story in 10 hours on Normal while not caring about ratings. But the true potential of the game is unlocked while playing on Pro aiming for SA…

6d62fe No.14691509

>>14691481

I thought about it and I'm not even sure about including gameplay time. I mean people can just go to that site if they want to, and short time is not necessarily bad. Not every game needs to play long, and it would penalize some genres heavily. So I think I will settle for Cutscene amount - none, insubstantial, moderate, heavy. Is that alright?

e9e412 No.14691535

>>14691509

You could just explain extra routes or replayability in the Gamer's Opinion, though I guess that's fine.

How about cutscene in percentage of game time: 0-10%, 10-30%, 30-50%, 50-75%, 75-100% ?

6d62fe No.14691566

>>14691535

Okay, so the category has been added to the submission form, but the current entries have not been updated yet. Thanks!

d4a48b No.14691728

>site is called honest gaming

>provides no source for allegations (cut content, evidence of sjw tampering)

OP you're a fucking retard. You better cite your sources or you won't be taken seriously.

d4a48b No.14691732

Also

>calling Perfect dark a cashgrab

Time to check my doubles

6d62fe No.14691775

>>14691535

Thanks for the Metal Gear submission, it's been added. Seems to lack a lot of content, but I don't know anything about Metal Gear, so just leaving it as you wrote it.

>>14691728

Adding sources is in the submission guidelines, but I can't control what anons submit. My own submissions have sources, but I don't have the time to provide them for all anon's submissions.

Anyway I'm going to sleep, see you tomorrow.

6d62fe No.14691782

>>14691775

I mean the collection lacks content, not your submission by the way (might be interpreted this way, now that I look at it).

e9e412 No.14691811

>>14691728

Being able to source shit would be nice.

How about asking submitter to put a [1] in the text, then having a source box at the end, where each line is a different link, linked to the line number.

E.g. "Sexy outfit removed[1]"

Then you put the link in the source box and it appears as

[1] www.youjustlostthegame.com/no_sexy_outfit_what_the_fuck_kon.html

I have no idea how to that though, since I can't into web scripts

>>14691732

>only perfect dark submission is about the 360 edition

>only says the port is a good one

>cashgrab not mentioned one

Are you talking about the wrong game?

>>14691782

It's mostly just joke content like joke cutscenes and the ape escape minigame, though most of it was removed for no reason in the HD remake.

7f2e9a No.14691884

>be offensive you faggot

>back to reddit/cuckchan

Isn't the idea behind this site about informing normalfags about the shady shit their favorite (((publishers))) do? Being toned down enough for a 5th grader is a requirement for conveying information to your average fuckwit. Someone put together a modern looking concept of what the interface could look like with current web design, which despite looking like bloated shit, is exactly what the site needs to get the message across.

Decide who this site is aimed at, and if it's /v/, what the fuck is the point since people here already know about this stuff.

e9e412 No.14692012

File: 480780081f36429⋯.png (513.32 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Untitled.png)

>>14691884

>Someone put together a modern looking concept of what the interface could look like with current web design, which despite looking like bloated shit, is exactly what the site needs to get the message across.

10 minutes in GIMP.

Kids like their "minimalistic" meme sites with icons and transparent shit. Something like pic related would work.

I can't draw icons for shit, but you get the idea.

A nice logo favicon, a bar with all pages (games by alphabetic order, publishers page that takes you to the games by that publisher, dev pages that takes you to games by that dev, info that shows the text on the intro screen, submit game and whatever), le minimalist front page and some transparent shit that makes it looks modern despite ruining the minimalist aspect(e.g. the last three games or some shit).

It doesn't need to be bloatware or web 2.0, it just needs to look like it's web 2.0 with spaghetti barely functional pajeet code.

e9e412 No.14692033

File: df4a8d54bacafee⋯.png (512.76 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Untitled.png)

>>14692012

Also, you can throw in le rounded edge images that look fucking disgusting (i.e. modern).

Gimp's circle tool doesn't work as well, so I just used my mouse.

e6d74d No.14692174

>>14689241

Don't distort my words.

I am not against only kikes, but the whole GROUPS responsible for ruining the games industry.

Leftists, women, shitskins AND kikes. Not ONLY kikes. Those groups must be named and exposed, always.

And my "problem" (that is, the problem with all outlets that won't name those groups) is that by not exposing those groups (again: women, leftists, shitskins and kikes), it enables them to move from company to company, eternally putting their anti-consumer practices into action, while the consumer is bound to a never ending state of being screwed, reporting, boycotting and moving on, only to see the next company be infested again.

By exposing those groups with personal infor and photos, the consumer can end this cycle, and definitively end their influence on the industry. Again, ALL THE GROUPS' influence. Not only kikes.

>>14689346

Read again what i posted, or the text above. I am not promoting a "kike only database". I am proposing a database to ALL grops that ruin the industry. Not only kikes. Women, leftists, shitskins, AND kikes.

If you won't inform the groups responsible for the anti-consumer practices, you will enable those groups to keep pushing for them, and to spread to many companies, while the consumer will have less and less space to complain and the industry will have even less companies that won't try to scam the consumer.

e9e412 No.14692243

>>14692174

Stop dodging the question.

So you do hate those groups(kikes, leftists, women, etc.)

Why, exactly, do you hate those groups themselves?

>>14692174

>Not only kikes. Women, leftists, shitskins, AND kikes.

So by your logic, we should boycott Japanese games because they're not white.

dd57a0 No.14698916

>>14691509

Gameplay time in and of itself is unimportant but worthless padding is worth pointing out. A lot of "open world" games have a hard-on for unnecessary travel-times, for instance.

>>14691811

The brackets are unnecessary with this kind of superscript.

>>14692174

Anon, and I mean this sincerely: you're a fucking moron. Like, you are legit actually fucking dumb. You are actually using racist, sexist, and even political discrimination as your barometer for what makes games good or not. Sure, it's well and good to expose the talentless hacks ruining the industry and make them take responsibility for the damage they inflict, but that is best handled on an individual basis, not through the insane stereotyping you employ.

Please stop acting like an autistic /pol/tard.

9fccc8 No.14699149

>>14692174

OP, keep doing what you're doing. It's refreshing to see people doing stuff around here.

>>14698916

>You are actually using racist, sexist

And people say SJWs don't know how to use TOR.

d1c284 No.14699162

>>14692250

The Japanese are not shitskins.

dd57a0 No.14700679

>>14699149

>hears the words "racist, sexist"

>[brain short-circuits]

>SJW! SJW! SJW!

Except that's wrong, you fucking moron. The hallmark of SJWs is that they screech those words in circumstances when it's bullshit to drown out criticism and dialogue as part of their disgusting virtue-signaling, hug-boxing circle-jerk (something a number of nu/pol/tards are also guilty of). This guy is an idiot who is promoting genuine discrimination on the basis of race, sex, and political affiliation because he legit believes in stereotyping the entire groups as undesirables and considers those people a stain on the industry and likely humanity in general. That is real prejudice and discrimination. News flash: Just because people like to call each other nigger and other shit 'round these parts doesn't mean folks are into actual racism. There's a difference between being offensive and being retarded, and shitting on retarded folks has always been a time-honored tradition here.

I really shouldn't have to explain any of this crap to you, but I guess you're just special that way.

abdc60 No.14701322

>>14700679

Buzzwords: the post

SJWs, every time. I guess this is the new standard for /v/. No energy left to care that an SJW has decided to TORpost and shit up the board with its buzzwords and charade of pretending to have a point.

dd57a0 No.14701468

>>14701322

>pointing out genuine racism and retardation is SJW shittery now

>has no counterargument, just says "buzzwords"

Kek. /pol/tards, not even once.

Polite sage for OT.

2bb224 No.14701505

I think there should be a category on whether or not source code is available. I was thinking something like this:

-Unavailable

-Leaked (source code was leaked to the public)

-Available (code is available for personal use only)

-Open (people are free to fork the code)

Though I think this should just be a bonus and closed-source games shouldn't be written off as bad. (Unless you want to go full freetard)

e9e412 No.14701581

>>14701468

>/pol/

Just nu-/pol/. /pol/ was once decent, then it got ran over by retards and controlled opposition that further influenced the retards.

>>14701505

That sounds good.

>Though I think this should just be a bonus and closed-source games shouldn't be written off as bad.

I don't think anything is written off as bad in the site, it's mostly just facts for the player to form his opinion (e.g. existance of free dlcs, DRM or whatever) with a plus that is the subjective gamer's opinion thing.

dd57a0 No.14701620

>>14701505

It's not a bad thought. I think we should also list if the game has a demo or not.

>>14701581

>Just nu-/pol/. /pol/ was once decent, then it got ran over by retards and controlled opposition that further influenced the retards.

I completely agree. But old /pol/ is dead now. It died the moment Jim stole the site from hotwheels and the /pol/ mods resigned in protest, leaving imkampfy and that other dumbfuck free to run the board into the ground. Most of the old /pol/acks don't post on /pol/ anymore either.

>I don't think anything is written off as bad in the site, it's mostly just facts for the player to form his opinion (e.g. existance of free dlcs, DRM or whatever) with a plus that is the subjective gamer's opinion thing.

Agreed.

e9e412 No.14701645

>>14701620

>I think we should also list if the game has a demo or not.

>I completely agree. But old /pol/ is dead now.

I guess, but I just like to make the distinction as to not give these faggots the satisfaction of being called /pol/acks.

dd57a0 No.14701730

>>14646419

I wouldn't recommend using PHP like that. It will slow down the website unnecessarily.

Also, the Duke Nukem page mentions that the Red Cross symbol was removed from medkit, but that's because the Red Cross organization has been going trigger-happy on suing all unauthorized uses of their trademark (the red cross). They had to do that because that shit is their personal trademark and the Red Cross symbol is actually protected by the Geneva Convention as only being permitted to signify Red Cross organization and its aid workers and facilities which enjoy a protected status from war crimes. It has to be immediately identifiable as a symbol of humanitarian medical aid and therefore is not allowed to be used for other purposes. Its recognition as a symbol of safety and healing was nevertheless widely abused for unapproved commercial and noncommercial purposes, but you actually are in violation of the Geneva Convention by misusing the red cross symbol for videogames. Since the Red Cross stepped up its efforts to get everyone to stop using the symbol (and absolutely will sue you if they have to since the consequences of the red cross no longer being considered a reliable symbol of the Red Cross organization aren't funny in war-torn areas), these symbols have been vanishing from games.

>>14701645

Ah, beauty.

>I guess, but I just like to make the distinction as to not give these faggots the satisfaction of being called /pol/acks.

I never call the newfags /pol/acks. Just /pol/tards.

e9e412 No.14702065

>>14701730

>I wouldn't recommend using PHP like that. It will slow down the website unnecessarily.

It does get really fucking slow at times, I could barely access it yesterday, though I don't know if it's PHP or the host.

How does wikia work? I just remembered there's a lot of sites like GG and PCGaming who use it plus it leaves a clean nifty URL(e.g. "honestgaming.wikia.org" as opposed to the unknown heliohost domain ), it's fast and the style is mostly already done.

I don't know if it's free or how their policies are, but if it's good we could try migrating to that.

>the Duke Nukem page mentions that the Red Cross symbol was removed from medkit, but that's because the Red Cross organization has been going trigger-happy on suing all unauthorized uses of their trademark (the red cross).

Removed content is removed content. Though it might be nice to explain what exactly happened further in the gamer's opinion thing.

OP said he was planning on doing an edit feature, so that might be a thing soon.

>I never call the newfags /pol/acks. Just /pol/tards.

I just don't call them /pol/ at all, just nu-/pol/ to have a clear distinction that they are not the true /pol/.

dd57a0 No.14702192

>>14702065

>It does get really fucking slow at times, I could barely access it yesterday, though I don't know if it's PHP or the host.

PHP mostly, I imagine. Especially since I'm guessing he's using a database too and it's a free host so anything server-side runs at a crawl. Honestly what he should be doing is write a PHP admin panel for himself if he wants and have it generate plain old static HTML pages for all the games with all the information. That way the server isn't strained just because you have a lot of people reading pages when none of those pages needed dynamic content generation to begin with.

>How does wikia work?

Wouldn't recommend it. Wikis don't have the best user interface. Their layout in general stinks, it's plastered with ads, not a fan of wiki shit or wiki drama, and the wikia admins own your shit. I wouldn't leave it up to them when they might go "OMG IT'S GAMERGATE QUICK BAN EVERYONE AND HIJACK THE WIKI." I strongly discourage it. There are other ways to collaborate anyhow.

>I just remembered there's a lot of sites like GG and PCGaming who use it plus it leaves a clean nifty URL(e.g. "honestgaming.wikia.org" as opposed to the unknown heliohost domain ), it's fast and the style is mostly already done.

Heliohost is just a temporary host.

>Removed content is removed content. Though it might be nice to explain what exactly happened further in the gamer's opinion thing.

That was pretty much my point.

>I just don't call them /pol/ at all, just nu-/pol/ to have a clear distinction that they are not the true /pol/.

Eh, I call 'em nu-/pol/ too.

e9e412 No.14702249

>>14702192

>Honestly what he should be doing is write a PHP admin panel for himself if he wants and have it generate plain old static HTML pages for all the games with all the information. That way the server isn't strained just because you have a lot of people reading pages when none of those pages needed dynamic content generation to begin with.

That sounds good, it's all static and OP is going through every individual submission after all, but I have no idea how easy it is.

Oh, nevermind then. Admins of such sites are generally faggots so I don't doubt they'd actually screech about gamergate and take the site over.

>flood

FIX THE SITE MONKEY KIKE

bfbd40 No.14702257

>>14701505

99% of games would end up "Unavailable". I don't think there's a point - you can mention that in the comments of Mod support section.

>>14701730

Well, it can be lawful but still be censorship. Many games don't care about it and keep it in.

But I will put that in the comments.

>>14702065

It's the host, not PHP.

>>14702192

I agree, wikia sucks (and any ready-made layout, anyway). If I did the static pages thing, style switcher wouldn't work, or the random game feature…or a future search option.

c255d7 No.14702273

>>14702192

>Wouldn't recommend it. Wikis don't have the best user interface. Their layout in general stinks, it's plastered with ads, not a fan of wiki shit or wiki drama, and the wikia admins own your shit. I wouldn't leave it up to them when they might go "OMG IT'S GAMERGATE QUICK BAN EVERYONE AND HIJACK THE WIKI." I strongly discourage it. There are other ways to collaborate anyhow.

Wikia sucks, but taking the Wiki software (mediawiki) and hosting it yourself is fine, though.

It's open source and highly customizable.

Most of the stuff OP is trying to painstakingly do by hand, he would get for free if he were to use the wiki software.

He could even replicate his whole page layout with some simple Wiki templates.

Collabarotion is a big factor, if he wants to keep the site going and growing.

Having some random autists submit stuff through some retarded submission form with OP being the only one to check what is a valid submission and what isn't (being essentially the only gatekeeper) just won't scale.

Heck, changes to the page layout itself could be collabaroted, without anons having to even touch the backbone of the site. All with already built-in tools in the Wiki software.

20f0bc No.14702280

File: f71971857002cdf⋯.jpg (111.34 KB, 1000x979, 1000:979, flat,1000x1000,075,f.u1.jpg)

>>14701322

>Buzzwords: the post

>SJW!

04a19d No.14702284

>>14702280

not an argument is a buzzword phrase though

bfbd40 No.14702285

>>14702273

You think giving everyone approval abilities is good? I can't see that end well…

e9e412 No.14702312

>>14702257

>99% of games would end up "Unavailable". I don't think there's a point - you can mention that in the comments of Mod support section.

I guess that's fair. Considering it's mostly about shitty games it'll be 90% AAA anyway.

>It's the host, not PHP.

Welp. No way to fix that, I guess.

>>14702273

>Wikia sucks, but taking the Wiki software (mediawiki) and hosting it yourself is fine, though.

PCGaming actually does this. I thought it was hosted on wikia, but it isn't.

OP could always just rip a few parts off and throw it on the site with credits, depending on the license.

>>14702285

Wikia software allows for accounts and special privileges IIRC.

You could just have everyone be allowed to make pages or edit content, then have a few accounts for selected moderators that choose whether a page gets accepted or whether a change gets accepted (with the server keeping public backups just in case), then OP can look at them afterwards.

It'd speed up process if the site ever gets popular.

dd57a0 No.14702342

>>14702257

>99% of games would end up "Unavailable". I don't think there's a point - you can mention that in the comments of Mod support section.

The point is that you want people to be able to search/filter based on the source code status of the game. Also based on the platform.

>Well, it can be lawful but still be censorship. Many games don't care about it and keep it in.

Red Cross intends to go after all of them, no exceptions. They will contact you if they notice you doing it. They can't afford to let the symbol lose its protected humanitarian status through the misuse. Anyhow I consider it worthwhile to let people know the reason of the censorship, since it's not done on SJW reasons as you might otherwise assume.

>But I will put that in the comments.

Sounds good.

>If I did the static pages thing, style switcher wouldn't work, or the random game feature…or a future search option.

Actually you can implement all of those with javascript, client-side. The style switcher could also be implemented just by creating HTML variations for every style, if you really want to. Or you could pregenerate most of it and leave the tiny bits like CSS stylesheets as PHP (which shouldn't require a DB hit). I like server-side coding, but it always makes me groan when I see people taking it too far and making their site run like ass once it gets popular because they chose to rebuild the exact same page for every single fucking person instead of just serving flat HTML.

Sometimes when I see that I consider mirroring part of your site locally just so I can have it run faster for me.

>It's the host, not PHP.

It's usually both. In my experience, free hosts still serve static pages extremely quick, but add in PHP and (in particular) a DB connection and it slows down horribly.

>>14702273

>Having some random autists submit stuff through some retarded submission form with OP being the only one to check what is a valid submission and what isn't (being essentially the only gatekeeper) just won't scale.

True, but the gamergate wiki doesn't have a lot of contributors either. If you want collaboration, you have to foster a community of participants. Also, a bugtracker-esque system could work for content submission and modification too.

I'm very leery of the lack of quality control on wikis and it's usually addressed in a very haphazard fashion. The amount of bullshit that slips through the cracks on wikis is astounding and we want our website to be authoritative, which is not what I consider wikis to be.

>>14702284

Sometimes it's used as an awful meme, other times it's a valid response. This time it's clearly valid. He was very obviously not presenting an argument in his attempted rebuttal.

99033e No.14702874

>>14702342

By popular demand (heh) the html only version is here!

http://honestgaming.heliohost.org/static/index.html

Some stuff might not work - submission form for sure.

e6d74d No.14704962

>>14645855

OP: read the posts that i marked, and my answers. See for yourself how there are subversive idiots here trying to cover for their corrupt allies and make you divert attention from them. See how they are afraid to expose women, leftists, jews and so on.

Expose them. It is the thing that they fear most, and exposing them can only grow from now on.

>>14692243

Because they are the responsible for ruining the industry. Why not hate them?

And your question is highly indicative that you are one of them.

>>14692250

Goon exposed.

Japanese are not shitskins. Don't distort my words.

Shitskins are niggers, mexicans, pajeets and so on.

Not even ONCE i talked about boycotting the japanese, your SA goon.

>>14698916

Leftist exposed. Using Tor to hide himself, nonetheless.

Sexism, racism and discrimination against leftists ARE good things, and are the best barometer to know that a product or service will be shit.

Anything made by women, faggots, shitskins, kikes and leftists will result in failure. The current state of the industry itself is proof of that. Those groups are responsible as a whole. This is not an individual base case.

>>14699149

I'm not the OP, but thanks.

And yes, redditors and other pieces of shit soyboys and cunts are here trying to divert focus since the beginning of OP's project.

>>14702342

>In my experience, free hosts still serve static pages extremely quick, but add in PHP and (in particular) a DB connection and it slows down horribly.

Then why not store the data in a flat file database?

01b5f0 No.14705074

Sorry OP, I know you've been working hard but this site has recently come up and it's already gotten a lot more traction.

https://microtransaction.zone

ef4e89 No.14705091

>>14705074

And you think it's better? Does not even contain half of the detail this site does.

ef4e89 No.14705122

>>14705091

I've checked it out, it is just about microtransactions and DLCs. Not a word about false advertising, demo availability, modding support and such. The categories and layout in general are very unintuitive. And it's scared of being offensive - "We will not approve entries that include language we deem inappropriate."

ef4e89 No.14705134

>>14705122

And many entries contain just something like "This game has an expansion that adds X and Y", or "This game has many buyable skins". And that's it! For a whole game entry. Terrible site.

e9e412 No.14706457

File: 1f693213b3ce45a⋯.jpg (149.37 KB, 858x1200, 143:200, 1f693213b3ce45ae4ec3924d71….jpg)

>>14702874

I just tried it, it's about the same for both versions, leading me to think the true bottleneck is the server.

It is going fast now though, I'll try again at night when it usually shits the bed.

>>14704962

>Because they are the responsible for ruining the industry.

Is that your only reason? It sounds pretty weak, even for nu-/pol/.

>And your question is highly indicative that you are one of them.

>no critical thinking, listen and believe goy, now wear this KKK robe

Screeching about jews for no concrete reason while inciting others to do the same is a highly indicative you are either a kike or controlled by kikes.

>Japanese are not shitskins. Don't distort my words.

Honorary means honorary.

>Sexism, racism and discrimination against leftists ARE good things, and are the best barometer to know that a product or service will be shit.

Do you seriously think a product made promoting sexism against males or racism against white would be instantly the best thing ever if it was exclusively against leftist whites or leftist men?

Because that's what racism and sexism mean, in case you didn't know.

>Anything made by women, faggots, shitskins, kikes and leftists will result in failure. The current state of the industry itself is proof of that. Those groups are responsible as a whole. This is not an individual base case.

>muh based nips

>doesn't even know about their games

>And yes, redditors and other pieces of shit soyboys and cunts are here trying to divert focus since the beginning of OP's project.

Yet OP himself said he didn't want to make this a kike database.

Just because you're retarded and want to include a few extra groups doesn't mean it isn't a kike database.

>>14705074

I agree with the other anons. That site is nice, but it feels like a clusterfuck blog trying to be a wiki. The information is not as abundant and easy to see as the site.

"Minor DLC" is really subjective, whereas "DLC characters" isn't.

Besides, this site is turning into a all in one sort of deal, where you can easily see if a game has DRM, DLC, microtransactions and all sort of information that is generally spread over a lot of sites.

random cute juri since it was in my desktop.

b6a847 No.14718821

File: dcd5284938e270e⋯.jpg (266.69 KB, 700x920, 35:46, dcd5284938e270e2ef62a36f0b….jpg)

Page 14 bump.

b6a847 No.14718876

>>14702874

The site is really slow right now.

I tried both the static and the PHP version, the PHP seems to take an extra third of a second, but the true problem is the server.

ab8fc2 No.14720102

>>14718876

HelioHost has multiple servers. I know one of them is a virtual server. That could be the problem.

6d3774 No.14720113

fcfdf0 No.14722785

OP here. Can anyone visit the site? I can't and also can't login. Did they delete it?

Still working on the modifier (seems simple but it's an illusion). Have to think about switching hosts.

b6a847 No.14724145

File: a8b8b8996f5cc6c⋯.jpg (116.75 KB, 1009x1087, 1009:1087, a8b8b8996f5cc6c1a4108ab405….jpg)

>>14722785

>Unable to connect

> We reserve the right to delete, change, or edit your account or your content with or without prior notification, including, but not limited to cases arising from abuse of these Terms. (https://wiki.helionet.org/Terms)

>THE FOLLOWING WILL NOT BE TOLERATED: Excessive use of profanity or bad language (https://www.helionet.org/index/topic/4-the-official-rules-guide/)

They took the site down for having "fuck" in a few reviews. I guessed they'd take it town for /pol/ content, but I didn't expect the hosting to go fucking nuclear on curse words.

You do have a back uo, right?

The current options are:

- Switch hosts (only good host I know of is wordpress, though it's kind of restrictive in scripts and html and it's made for fucking blogs)

- Apologize, explain they were user reviews and that you'll enforce SFW language

- Just make another account and another site, changing the entries to not have "strong language" and pretend nothing ever happened

46a5b1 No.14724187

>>14724145

http://honestgaming.nut.cc/ should work for now, but in the end paid is the only option, I guess.

46a5b1 No.14724198

>>14724187

By the way, I think I've tried all the available free hosts, and this is the only one left that didn't suck. Many of them force you to turn on javascript, even if your site doesn't require it. Others need your fucking address for registration. Others need a fucking domain for 100 dollars or whatever (but they're "free", haha).

db5836 No.14724206

>>14724187

Avast just popped up and said that the site's dangerous. Not that I believe it, but that's something that would deter a lot of people.

46a5b1 No.14724209

>>14724198

Oh, and the "famous" 000webhost forces you to specify during which hour your website will be down. What a joke.

>>14724206

Maybe the "nut.cc" triggered it?

b6a847 No.14724229

>>14724187

Redirects me to http://freeavailabledomains.com/blocked/ without script.

I threw it on archive and it led to this spam page, http://archive.is/tQOyM .

Are you sure you registered it right?

>>14724198

Wordpress doesn't need any of that shit and it's free and fast.

It doesn't have much scripting edit but you could manually make a front page with game entries and each of them leads to the entries themselves, complete with tags and search.

Though there's still the catch that I haven't read their terms yet, so I don't know how it is and maybe the site will end up looking ugly because of the restrictive editing.

46a5b1 No.14724231

>>14724198

Fuck, the TOS says they will insert ads into my site after some time? Or I got it wrong. Paid is a necessity then.

46a5b1 No.14724238

>>14724229

Works fine for me. But forget it then, paid is a must.

46a5b1 No.14724243

>>14724238

Or maybe some generous anon would provide a piece of his hosting, if he has it.

6d3774 No.14724250

>>14724187

Sorry, anon. I actually have a domain for my /agdg/ project, but it's name is so fucking specific that it wouldn't accurately represent your site. You'd have to do something like http://honest.[mydomain].net, and that just looks unprofessional, or else associates your website with mine.

What I'm saying is that I'd totally host you if I was competent and had a general server

db5836 No.14724254

File: b78f905291159ea⋯.png (64.84 KB, 935x353, 935:353, ClipboardImage.png)

Disabled Avast. It leads me to http://free-today.com . On Opera, it shows me a blank page, and on IE, since it's the only other browser I have, it shows me this.

>>14724209

I stick to tumblr since it actually lets you use custom HTML code and even some professional companies have those. If you write your own code from scratch, it even hides all the menus that usually pop up when someone visits your site.

b6a847 No.14724264

>>14724254

I haven't used tumblr myself, but some semi-popular people use it and the domain is normalfag friendly enough. How about giving it a try?

10900e No.14724280

>>14724254

Okay I get it. It blocks some proxies, and perhaps even some real IPs. Since I could get there with one of my proxies but not another.

Fuck it anyway. Paid is the only option.

>>14724250

How about yourdomain.net/honestgaming/ ? Well, it would be better than these free shit hosts. But I'd need a real paid one sooner or later.

db5836 No.14724281

>>14724264

It might always get reported if some SJW stumbles upon it and gets too upset, but god knows. You can pay a few shekels to remove the .tumblr part of the URL, as well, if i'm not mistaken.

b6a847 No.14724296

>>14724281

>It might always get reported if some SJW stumbles upon it and gets too upset

But what's tumblr's stance on it?

Will they actually remove you just for offending someone or are the rules objective stuff set in stone?

9a1347 No.14724313

>>14724296

"When you provide Subscriber Content to Tumblr through the Services, you grant Tumblr a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free, sublicensable, transferable right and license to use, host, store, cache, reproduce, publish, display (publicly or otherwise), perform (publicly or otherwise), distribute, transmit, modify, adapt (including, without limitation, in order to conform it to the requirements of any networks, devices, services, or media through which the Services are available), and create derivative works of, such Subscriber Content. "

Forget tumblr then. They can modify the site as they please.

9a1347 No.14724343

OKay fuck it, I'm going to sleep. Gotta hope an anon will lend his host, or else I will have to arrange a paid one. For now the project is on hold…

48c93b No.14728458

>>14724343

By the way, I've put the static site up on https://honestgaming.neocities.org, but it obviously is not a long term solution, because no submissions are possible. Fuck, I would move to neocities forever if only it could do submissions, but it doesn't support PHP…

992005 No.14729481

>>14729364

There is not even a site right now. Stop sperging out, no one benefits from your rants.

b6a847 No.14730109

File: 3b262dd669aaf8d⋯.jpg (68.33 KB, 600x800, 3:4, 3b262dd669aaf8de4c30bb0693….jpg)

>>14729364

> Before anything: /v/ IS /pol/. Get used to it.

/v/ is /v/, /pol/ is /pol/ and nu-/pol/ is nu-/pol/.

>Are you one of them? I'm not. Why do you dodged the issue?

I'm not. I implied I denied your accusations when I turned then back on you, though I guess that's too subtle for nu-/pol/.

>As for sexist and so on products, yes. The mindset of someone that puts sexism and White supremacy unironically (emphasis on that) OR pushing the same against only leftists in his game/product/service is a mindset of one that can make decisions based on not be pushed back by any "backlash" from the whiny leftists. So, yes, what you asked is correct. Not just a belief. A natural fact.

How much of a parody of yourself can you be? You literally just said you're fine with white hating niggers and men hating women if the one they are hating on just happen to be a leftist.

I know nu-/pol/ is full of useful idiots, but you're surpassing SJWs with that forceful segregation there.

>And AGAIN, i did not said only kikes. Nor ' "kike database". Instead, a full "leftists, shirtskins, women AND kikes database".

When OP said he didn't want to make a kike database it's implied he doesn't want to make a kike database at all, even if it is part of a bigger database.

>Don't focus on just one aspect of everything that i said, goon.

> And i do know about japanese games and the worst side of them.

If you knew about nips you know the "women" and "nigger" you pretend to hate are nothing but tools in the hands of kikes. Various good japanese games were made by women, various "sexist" characters were created, drawn and sculpted by them.

It's a wonderful thing when retard groups (e.g. women) aren't being controlled by kikes. You'd know that much if you didn't just dogmatically believed nu-/pol/.

edea28 No.14730116

>>14730109

>Will they actually remove you just for offending someone or are the rules objective stuff set in stone?

Yes, or "No" until they get one of their own on the Mod team then definitely Yes.

d48dbf No.14732410

OK, it turns out one of heliohost's servers (of course just HAD to be the one I used) was simply down. The site is alive!

http://honestgaming.heliohost.org/

Still need a paid host eventually.

d48dbf No.14732422

>>14732410

But also:

"After extensive testing it looks like Johnny has suffered one too many crashes and it scrambled his filesystem completely. The hard drive itself appears to be perfectly intact. It's just the operating system that is corrupt. This means that it is highly likely he will crash again after a random amount of time. We have brought Johnny online so people can try to quickly take a backup of their site. If Johnny continues crashing we will be forced to take the next step in the repair process which will undoubtedly result in data loss from the hard drive. That is why we're going to encourage people to take backups quickly. "

So it will die soon regardless.

d48dbf No.14732528

>>14732422

I've requested an account deletion and will sign up again for a more stable server. But apparently have to wait 18 hours…

cc53cd No.14732572

File: a9cd5c8ba7b3381⋯.gif (29.18 KB, 500x475, 20:19, you_tried.gif)

>>14728458

Site idea is good, but you'll need thousands of games listed for anyone to give a shit about it. You're gonna have to spend years working on it for free, Anon.

e9b220 No.14733113

>>14732572

Anons will help. Then later it will be shilled elsewhere. But first, HOSTING.

72ac50 No.14739677

This site is just some faggot and his opinions…why are you guys supporting this faggot?

fd6379 No.14739914

>>14675797

>grow up and become a cuck

>giving up all standards is what a mature person does

lmao

595579 No.14739933

>>14739914

>giving up all standards is what a mature person does

Yeah pretty much.

62ce03 No.14739994

>>14739933

you sound like a fun person to be around.

d4ca3e No.14740148

>>14653005

>Exposing the industry being shit BECAUSE of niggers, faggots, women, leftists and kikes.

Industry is shit because competition and marketing have pushed games to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Add in that it's easier to market visuals than gameplay. And rehearsing/"remastering" the same formula is safer than trying anything new. Most interesting releases these days come from small studios, who can barely stay afloat in face of massive competition. (See the thread about 100+ FPS being released on steam within the first 3 months alone)

Destiny cost $500 mil to develop and just about managed to break even. 20 years ago even the largest projects didn't pass 1/10 of that, and would be expected to make several times development costs. Add in inflation, and it's clear that DLC and lootboxes are inevitable at this point. >>14739914 There's value in not being completely obnoxious. 6b7b56 No.14740168 File: 0dd555a196c29e5⋯.png (107.41 KB, 281x274, 281:274, 1438543066503~01~01.png) >>14653005 >/v/ is /pol/. db5836 No.14740211 >>14740168 It's true that there's a lot of overlap. Mostly, I just think that /v/ tends to hate the same people as /pol/ but have better things to do than screech autistically about it in every single opportunity. sage for off-topic, but it's fucking retarded how narrow-minded /pol/ is at times. remember the Pulse shooting? Perfect opportunity to make faggots useful and convince them to vote for Trump, and hell, this was when /pol/ was fully on board with him. but instead, all they could do is screech about the bog and the day of the rope, when instead they could have shut their mouths for five minutes and scored some fucking votes for the guy they support. and it's happening again, now. there's a thread about some file hosting guy's house getting raided because someone uploaded CP to his site. they found some sex toys in his house which are illegal under a new law there. instead of being outraged about how bullshit it is and worrying that fullchan could get shut down, they spent the entire thread screeching about degeneracy because of the sex toys. i get not wanting to become another alt-right, but fucking hell, no one's suggesting that. just get your fucking priorities straight. you have great opportunities to redpill even normalfags on your causes and instead you just screech and call that a victory. b6a847 No.14740309 >>14740148 >Destiny cost$500 mil to develop and just about managed to break even. 20 years ago even the largest projects didn't pass 1/10 of that, and would be expected to make several times development costs. Add in inflation, and it's clear that DLC and lootboxes are inevitable at this point.

>implying

Yes, games are really fucking expensive now, but that's misleading. Most AAA games cost about one million dollars to make, but that's with half, if not more, of that fucking money going straight into the blender "marketing".

Companies need to realize that they don't need to spend almost anything in marketing. You're wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars to get a few extra players when you could pay a guy 50 dollars to shitpost on the internet and "leak" the game to popular sites and "news" sites, then "confirming" it a while later in your own social media/site, that's fucking it. That's ten thousand times cheaper and almost just as effective.

Companies don't need DLC and lootboxes, companies push for DLC and lootboxes to support the marketing department because some retard in a suit trusts the marketing department's word that it's needed.

>>14740211

It was fine before though. It really went to shit when the Trump shit started. I'm guessing it's paid shills and underage retards that flooded the place and just stayed there calling themselves "/pol/acks" and being edgy just for the sake of it.

dc832b No.14740319

>>14740211

>sodomites

The gay kike milo has that locked down, why do you think /pol/ wants fags in any capacity?

db5836 No.14740331

>>14740309

>Yes, games are really fucking expensive now, but that's misleading. Most AAA games cost about one million dollars to make, but that's with half, if not more, of that fucking money going straight into the blender "marketing".

Partly this, and partly massively overinflated development teams. When there are studios with staff members dedicated specifically to shit like "cape physics", no fucking wonder games cost so much to make, it's laughable.

>>14740319

Big difference between including fags into /pol/ and getting them to vote for Trump. It's not an all-or-nothing scenario.

dc832b No.14740352

>>14740331

>Big difference between including fags into /pol/ and getting them to vote for Trump. It's not an all-or-nothing scenario.

Fags are like 4% of the population. Go away, bubonic butt blaster. You're not going to get them to vote right because some mudshit gave them fast-acting AIDS. The only solution in their mind to the mudshit issue is more tolerance.

d4ca3e No.14740549

>>14740309

>implying

Main point is not that development costs have gone up, it's that profits have gone down. These expensive projects are the result of having to boost raw income.

>Companies need to realize that they don't need to spend almost anything in marketing.

Marketing budgets haven't nearly inflated as much as development costs have, or even appear stable.

>You're wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars to get a few extra players when you could pay a guy 50 dollars to shitpost on the internet and "leak" the game to popular sites and "news" sites,

Even if this were true, it wouldn't stop the competition from having to go lower. It would be a temporary solution at best.

>Companies don't need DLC and lootboxes

Annual financial reports disagree. Before they could maintain the same level of profit without DLC, lootboxes, e-sports, expansions, seasonal passes, cosmetics, etc. Every time earnings tanked they've boosted it by bringing out another gimmick or finding ways to milk more cash. And yet, companies like Activision have seen their net incomes decrease over the past years. Others like Valve don't even make games anymore. Singleplayer games in particular are nearly dead.

>>14740331

>When there are studios with staff members dedicated specifically to shit like "cape physics", no fucking wonder games cost so much to make, it's laughable.

Useless gimmicks are the result of needing an edge over competitors. Also see the first point about gameplay being less marketable than visuals.

b6a847 No.14743624

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>>14740549

>Main point is not that development costs have gone up, it's that profits have gone down. These expensive projects are the result of having to boost raw income.

But you're misrepresenting the cause. They don't need more money because the prices have gone up, they need more money because they decided to use more money.

>Marketing budgets haven't nearly inflated as much as development costs have, or even appear stable.

Wikipedia link since it's digested and has sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_video_games_to_develop

Most games AAA literally double their budget because of marketing. Do you seriously think that has no impact in the budget?

>Even if this were true, it wouldn't stop the competition from having to go lower.

So? You'd be wasting less money for virtually the same result, it's a win win situation.

>It would be a temporary solution at best.

Compare the number of games you bought because you saw a video/post about it or because you heard someone talk about the gameplay vs the number of games you bought because of a costly marketing campaign.

Spending a fuck ton of money on ads isn't worth it, the sooner companies realize this, the sooner they'll start wasting less money.

It's not temporary, it can safely replace TV ads and whatnot.

>Annual financial reports disagree. Before they could maintain the same level of profit without DLC, lootboxes, e-sports, expansions, seasonal passes, cosmetics, etc. Every time earnings tanked they've boosted it by bringing out another gimmick or finding ways to milk more cash.

Again, you're misrepresenting the cause. You're implying it's because of development costs, it isn't.

>And yet, companies like Activision have seen their net incomes decrease over the past years. Others like Valve don't even make games anymore.

You're pumping your game full of anti-consumer practices like invasive DRM, microtransactions, P2W and whatnot despite it already costing 60 dollars, and not even being a good game, do you seriously think that it's the consumer's fault the product is faulty?

>Singleplayer games in particular are nearly dead.

NieR: Automata, a niche Japanese game made by a dev studio with both foots in the grave and a hand signing the bankruptcy papers and published by a publisher that wanted it to fail and shoved DRM in the PC release, broke a million sales not long ago.

You know why it sold so much, despite the jornos criticizing it, the alien gameplay and the offensive protagonist? Because it was fun, simple as that. It was a complete singleplayer game with new fun gameplay, good characters and it did what it promised to do. There was little to no marketing, yet it got popular by word of mouth and rose up well beyond expectations.

Singleplayer games aren't dying, AAA companies are, and they're kicking and screaming in fear of death.

>Useless gimmicks are the result of needing an edge over competitors.

Useless gimmicks are the result of bad decisions.

You could just make a cape and have it affected by physics made by codemonkeys, there is literally no need to pay someone exclusively for that.

>Also see the first point about gameplay being less marketable than visuals.

Visuals are more marketable on the TV. All you need to do is hype up your game for the gameplay, release a demo that meets expectations and see the cash roll in. Hell, even just releasing a demo is going to make people go ape shit about how you're "muh based dev".

0d8286 No.14743675

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>>14740334

We should be openly hostile to any minorities that wake up and try to come to our side. Alienating them and forcing them back to the other side is a surefire tactic for victory.

75b219 No.14743941

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>>14743675

You are fucking retarded.

beb6ab No.14743971

>>14743675

wow, based!!!

219c95 No.14744006

>>14743941

Lets not make it 100%. A vote is a vote no matter if the voter gets the finer points.

And of course, just because they're "on our side" doesn't give them a free pass for breaking the law.

Now as for boosting the white population, thats another matter that'll require decent governments for several decades, and those 8% saying the other 92% aren't worth breeding with.

c611e6 No.14744519

>>14645855

why can't i submit anything you fucking faggot?

2775da No.14744577

Cool idea and all but unless you do a wikipedia style system where anyone can submit stuff it's pointless and shit.

b6a847 No.14744581

>>14744519

The heliohost server is fucking broken, OP is trying to find a replacement.

>>14744577

You too faggot. Anyone can submit a game, OP just checks to see if it's not bullshit claims or shilling.

000000 No.14746290

>>14739933

There's a subtle but massive difference between not giving a shit and having no standards. You're doing it wrong.

d42fda No.14748529

It's back up! On heliohost again, but this time the stable (we'll see…) Ricky server. http://hg.heliohost.org/ (didn't let me pick honestgaming again…) or http://honestgaming.nut.cc.

d42fda No.14748911

>>14748529

48 hours until domain is changed to honestgaming.heliohost.org again (if it works…)

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>>14748529

>>14748911

OP, what's with the inconsistency here?

first is from silent hill and the second is from NieR.

10900e No.14749211

>>14749079

Oh! I think I've lost the updated version of the silent hill submission for some reason. I'll try to find it, otherwise, I will redo it.

10900e No.14749308

>>14749211

Newer version is up and also fixed a bug with styles. Fuck, I'm sure it was done before. Oh well.

00d9bc No.14750301

>>14748911

I think you should get a real domain instead of a subdomain. It will make it easier for nomalfags to share and access your site. You can get .tk domains for free: http://dot.tk

10900e No.14753046

>>14750301

>"a client with this e-mail already exists"