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Ya'll need Mises.

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 No.99555[Reply]

can we have a book thread?

I'll get the obligatory charts out of the way

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 No.100340

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 No.100347

>>100337

Mises - Human Action.

>>100340

Ummmm… thanks?


 No.100841

Finished Edward Fesers Philosophy of Mind a while back, all in all a really good book, although not outstanding. I also read Peter Mansfields A History of the Middle East, which focused too much on political history for my taste, while it barely gave such events as the Armenian genocide any space at all, but it was nevertheless quite good. A decent primer if you want to understand this region of the world.


 No.100846

>>100347

the anime nigger


 No.100894

>>100846

Ah yes, sorry. That's Boku no Pico.




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 No.100798[Reply]

Why does socialism keep growing until it reaches a level of starvation and famine in some countries?

Also, it kind of feels like the Holodomor and Mao's famine is forgotten about.

 No.100807

Killing people and taking their stuff works until it doesn't.


 No.100808

>>100798

in poland we had communism but not starvation and famine


 No.100824

File: e5c60d5ee4610fe⋯.png (49.77 KB, 800x418, 400:209, Fire Horse Japan.png)

>>100798

Regarding China's speak in death rates in that one year(1966), was because it was the year of the Fire Horse. Both fire and horses are symbols of freedom and free spirits, so the combination gives you the most free spirited and rebellious person imaginable. The problem is that if a girl was born in that year, she would become rebellious, lazy, never listens to her parents or husband, doesn't cook or clean, spends all the money and nags a lot, basically the worst possible woman imaginable. So no to risk having a girl, many decided not to make babies that year, and does that did, it it turned out to a be a girl, threw them in the dumpster.

Even the Japanese are guilty of this, and it's more regarding superstition, rather than socialism.

http://www.chinabuddhismencyclopedia.com/en/index.php/Year_of_the_Fire_Horse


 No.100838

File: 71226a766fbcb9f⋯.pdf (5.51 MB, Matthew White - Atrocitolo….pdf)

>>100798

>Why does socialism keep growing until it reaches a level of starvation and famine in some countries?

It actually doesn't always do that. Sometimes, it hits a limit in its growth before it causes widespread famine. It always leaves whatever society it infects worse than it was before, like a flu, but also like the flu, it can be the equivalent of a really bad cold (as in Cuba), or it can outright kill you (as in China). Depends on your society, and the socialist ideology penetrating it. Cuba has a sizable Catholic population, and Catholic societies produce rather benign rulers. China, on the other hand, was always authoritarian and totalitarian, so when the communists took it over, they met little resistance in making the worst of it.

>Also, it kind of feels like the Holodomor and Mao's famine is forgotten about.

Yeah, they kinda are. Pdf related is a very good introduction to this topic.

>>100824

Very interesting, I did not know this before.




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 No.100249[Reply]

How do you define 'liberty'?

Is it a dichotomy or is it a continuum?

If the latter, what does it mean for someone to be freer or less free than someone else?

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 No.100788

>>100767

>public education is a mistake

That's where you're wrong. It's doing exactly what it was created to do.


 No.100817

>>100744

>individuals have right of ownership over … goods that they have created

That's communism.


 No.100818

>>100817

except they do not recognize private property rights, so they do not truly "own" anything


 No.100819

>>100817

No. The owners of factories have a valid right to the equipment and infrastructure of that factory, since their suppliers had valid right of ownership over the equipment and transferred it to the owners. The owners of factories are not obligated to let workers use this infrastructure for free. The employment contract that workers, of their own free will, agree to, grants right of ownership over the goods that the workers create (this right of ownership was freely transferred from the worker to the owner) in exchange for payment and use of factory infrastructure.


 No.100825

>>100819

>valid right

>free will

>right of ownership

Feel free to prove that any of these not only exist, but are inherently coherent concepts which can exist.




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 No.100800[Reply]

To what extent do you think that the massive uptick and increase in financial regulation before 2008 caused the financial crisis?

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 No.100803

In this case, I don't think it completely follows that just because one statement is false (deregulation caused the financial crisis) that the inverse statement (over-regulation caused the financial crisis) is true. Over-regulation–namely, limiting the ratings agency market to only two firms through regulation, the Community Reinvestment Act and similar affirmative action ploys, and the federally backed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–may be what caused the collapse to happen within the financial and real estate sectors specifically. However, the root cause of the collapse is the same as it is for every other recession and depression: the Federal Reserve's systematic credit expansion. If you consider bailouts to be a form of regulation, then you can also say that regulations were responsible for the severity of the recession compared to other recessions, as it was the bailouts which allowed the collapse to spread beyond the financial sector into the rest of the economy.


 No.100804

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>>100803

You know what, I'm all for pre-emptively posting with a post that is completely flips around the /leftypol/posts we get on this board all the time even if it is a little wrong. It shows the /leftypol/posts that we know the fucking points they're going to make well in advance: to the point where we're able to make the completely opposite point they're going to make. At the very least, maybe we'll actually hear something original instead of a repost of "le socialist Sweden" thread or "Venezuela is actually capitalist" for the gazillionth time. More importantly, libertarianism actually goes on the goddam rhetorical offensive for once instead of constantly being flooded with defense on every god damn thread on the front page.

But anyways, I think you're spot on. It's the goddam FED.


 No.100805

>>100804

>You know what, I'm all for pre-emptively posting with a post that is completely flips around the /leftypol/posts we get on this board all the time even if it is a little wrong.

I appreciate the cheekiness as much as you do. It's just my autistic pedantry happens to override my appreciation.


 No.100806

Capitalism gets crises. That's all there is to it.


 No.100809

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 No.100759[Reply]

In the late 50s, Sweden used to be very socialistic. Their economy was stagnant, regulations were at a much higher level than today, and taxes and regulations looked like they were going to keep increasing. Intellectually, the scene looked even more dire. The socialist-lite Swedish economist Gunnar-Myrdal had recently won the Nobel prize in economics, and there seemed to be no intellectual light at the end of the tunnel for a more liberal economic theory to be plausible in Sweden.

But then, abruptly, things changed coursed. Sweden deregulated at a massive rate. The size and scope of the government decreased dramatically. Now Sweden is among the top ten in its economic freedom score.

What happened? How did libertarianism win in Sweden?

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 No.100785

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>100759

Swedens success is due to their liberalism, not "muh socialism" like berniebro retards claim. The time the country even tipped its toe into socialism, it was a huge shitshow failure


 No.100791

>>100762

>huge social safety net

wasn't the pension system partially privatized?


 No.100793

File: 476fcc0332de15a⋯.png (547.86 KB, 800x461, 800:461, comfy15.png)

>>100785

Uh, yeah, that's already implicit in OP's question. He's asking WHY Sweden became liberal.

>>100783

This is interesting, great post.


 No.100795

>>100793

the video is all about Swedens history of liberalism


 No.100797

>>100795

Sorry, I didn't even notice the video.




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 No.100709[Reply]

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 No.100773

>>100712

No, you just said whatever words necessary to make the bastards hand over those seeds you just bought. It's like clicking "I Agree" on the EULA for a video game - nobody reads the damn things, nobody cares about the damn things, they're unenforceable, and people just take the quickest route to make it go away and then they forget about it. Information is not scarce, and attempts to make information scarce have always ended in failure (and will continue to end in failure, because the idea is just that ludicrous). If I buy your seeds, they become my seeds, and then I can do what I want with them. That's how buying stuff works. Industries have had almost six hundred years since the invention of the printing press to adapt their way of thinking to a world where only material objects have scarcity, but they refuse to do so because they all want to go back to the time when it was possible to jealously hoard an idea and actually hope to succeed. They keep trying, they keep failing, and they keep looking ridiculous because of it.


 No.100775

>>100721

He's saying that's irrelevant because it's unenforceable. At that point it's too late to get your 10 McBitcoins. You may say "No, because they have goons" but at that point nothing matters because goons.


 No.100776

>>100775

so if i rent someone a bike and he agreed to give it back to me the next day then it is unenforceable so irrelevant and the bike is his?


 No.100781

>>100776

That is a breach of contract which results in theft, and is therefore enforceable. You would have a right to your bike back, and could bring this claim to court. What you can't do is say, "I sell you this bike, but if you paint it red I will take it back" in a contract and expect enforcement, because no theft has occurred.


 No.100782

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 No.100737[Reply]

the tldr is failed economic theories and models.

then libs posting somalia memes

then angry libertarians butchering classical liberal talking points in defence angrily.

thats how libertarian ism works

do yourself a favour red noam chomsky and don't pay mind to conservative economic theories they are all really fucking dumb.

if you like freedom become a normal anarchist/syndicalist and don't play in the kiddy pool of libertarianism to long my best advice

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 No.100747

>>100745

Here's a better question:

If you were a committed anarcho-commie, and decided to mask yourself and begin committing acts of terror, which set of actions would you choose?

>Beat up white working-class conservatives

>Destroy private cars/houses (i.e. not the MOP)

>Terrorize media pundits

>Knock over trash cans

or

>Burn down warehouses and capital

>Blow up Walmarts

>Attack law-enforcers

>Assassinate CEOs and politicians


 No.100750

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>>100745

Because deep down, they're aware there's no such thing.


 No.100758

he tldr is failed economic theories and models.

then libs posting somalia memes

then angry libertarians butchering classical liberal talking points in defence angrily.

thats how libertarian ism works

do yourself a favour red noam chomsky and don't pay mind to conservative economic theories they are all really fucking dumb.

if you like freedom become a normal anarchist/syndicalist and don't play in the kiddy pool of libertarianism to long my best advice


 No.100763

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>>100758

wow very cool


 No.100770

the tldr is failed economic theories and models.

then libs posting somalia memes

then angry libertarians butchering classical liberal talking points in defence angrily.

thats how libertarian ism works

do yourself a favour red noam chomsky and don't pay mind to conservative economic theories they are all really fucking dumb.

if you like freedom become a normal anarchist/syndicalist and don't play in the kiddy pool of libertarianism to long my best advice




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 No.100714[Reply]

I don't know much about libertarism, but I wanted to ask what happens to poor people. Do they get any help? Or do they just be poor forever?

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 No.100729

File: 088dbd190b77f6a⋯.jpg (40.68 KB, 500x500, 1:1, tumblr_mauvphEHb21rpdag4o1….jpg)

the tldr is failed economic theories and models.

then libs posting somalia memes

then angry libertarians butchering classical liberal talking points in defence angrily.

thats how libertarian ism works

do yourself a favour red noam chomsky and don't pay mind to conservative economic theories they are all really fucking dumb.

if you like freedom become a normal anarchist/syndicalist and don't play in the kiddy pool of libertarianism to long my best advice


 No.100731

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>>100729

>if you like freedom become a normal anarchist/syndicalist

>tumblr

lmao, reads like pottery.


 No.100732

Social welfare never existed in America at the level it does today. People literally strved to death not a lot but people did, we should go back to that tbh because we have a system now Breaks up families and incentivizes garbage people having children. Because the more garbage you are the more handouts you get the governments essentially a enabler to maintain the status quo.

We need a sink or swim system where people are forced to swim or sink. It seems strange but in the past it was the reason people had stronger family bonds in poor communities. Because they literally had to rely on their family or die. It’s not a nice way to live but its the best way. Just look at the Ways social welfare has destroyed black neighborhoods


 No.100734

Poor people survive on the benevolence of others, as it has been since before Christ, but in the libertarian ideal there is no forced charity.

Paradoxically, the absence of a welfare state would produce greater welfare for the lower class because the money would be more efficiently handled and people would be more generous, seeing a personal obligation.


 No.100736

>>100729

thanks for my new favorite pasta

the tldr is failed economic theories and models.

then libs posting somalia memes

then angry libertarians butchering classical liberal talking points in defence angrily.

thats how libertarian ism works

do yourself a favour red noam chomsky and don't pay mind to conservative economic theories they are all really fucking dumb.

if you like freedom become a normal anarchist/syndicalist and don't play in the kiddy pool of libertarianism to long my best advice




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 No.100283[Reply]

where does this quote come from

>Only 24% of people who reported sexual fantasies about children also reported sexual contact with children. (This number is not mentioned in the study, but can be easily calculated using the data in Table 1: (38+49)/358.)

?

i saved the quote but i should have saved whole webpage

the webpage was linked in /hebe/ or/and /phile/

im posting in in this board for i think this board is visited by /hebe/ and/or /phile/ anons

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 No.100488

>>100287

>comparing sex to murder

And you have the gall to call anyone else deranged.


 No.100494

>>100287

im a scientist

not a pedo


 No.100502

>>100494

>im a scientist who wants to rape kids


 No.100693

>>100502

>for science.jpg


 No.100706




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 No.100647[Reply]

I feel like he's going to end it

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 No.100665

>>100652

this

he's complaining the fed isnt fed enough but they capitulated now just like peter schiff predicted so say goodbye to dollar purchasing power


 No.100676

Wait. So the Fed finally raised interest rates?


 No.100683

>>100676

The Fed started raising rates awhile back, a baby step at a time.


 No.100692

>>100676

>>100683

and then they said they werent going to until after 2020 so they capitulated


 No.100705

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>>100692

>mfw austrian economics wins again




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 No.100523[Reply]

As we all know, war causes rampant inflation. Should the government intervene and raise the wages of workers with rampant inflation during a war?

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 No.100583

>>100582

Rationing will ensure goods don't end up where they're needed the most. You will always have some people in need of the good who cannot get it because of rationing, because the state cannot reliably estimate where it is needed, and you will have people buying all of the good solely because it is rationed, perhaps to sell it to the first group of people. The latter is actually a very productive acticity, it alleviates the bad effect of a system of rationing.

Besides, how would rationing help deal with inflation and artificial wage raises? It won't.


 No.100585

>>100582

The only rationing that should happen in a market is price gouging.


 No.100610

>>100523

What is that fucking thing? It looks like it's about to burst.


 No.100627

>>100610

My phat dick being cleaned of smegma.


 No.100637

File: 0683db06598fea2⋯.gif (1.09 MB, 234x154, 117:77, that has to hurt.gif)

>>100523

>As we all know, war causes rampant inflation. Should the government intervene and raise the wages of workers with rampant inflation during a war?

Jesus Christ your post reads like a nightmare. No, if the problem are policies of inflation that the state pursues for the sake of funding, the solution is not to create price floors in the form of arbitrary wage growth, that'll just fuck up the market even further and make things far worse for the average person.

I mean you've already started with the scenario of a war, and then the government proceeds to distort the market and essentially cause an inevitable higher rise in price then there already would have been along with other distortions in the market.

>>100627

Lewd.




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 No.100260[Reply]

The Great American Experiment is a fascinating thing to read about in history. The more you read about the founding and early history of America the more it makes sense. In particular the rest of the world see's America as having a truly alien, fetishistic view of firearms. To the rest of the world they are tools or an abhorrent genie let out the bottle it can never be put back in while the view seems to be that Americans view guns in the same way other cultures view religious iconography. But the big deal seems to be a lack of understanding the 'why' of that.

Reading books like 'The Indifferent Stars Above' or Historians talking on the subject really impresses the horrible reality of the colonial times that i don't think the rest of the world understand. Take England for example. It has been inhabited since before the Ice Age. Castles and rudimentary civil engineering has criss crossed the land for over a thousand years. There were bandits and thieves but the land was small and developed to the point that there were sheriffs, town guards, lords and kings and so on for a long long time with things like the Roman invasion and the clans before that. The concept of the vast untamed endless forests of the land are such an ancient memory that England and France were still a joined landmass at that point.

Compare to America 300-400 years ago tops. A mind blowing, endless new frontier. Predators and sicknesses that you have no name for and behind it all? no police. no guards. Especially for the westward expansion settlers. It was an alien continent and the only safety between a man and his family was what else but his Gun. How many families during this period were saved because the family rifle or revolver got them through some form of attack? families that lived through that time, had descendants to pass on their trials and all recent enough for it to still have a special meaning. What was there for them when Natives circled the wagons? The law? no. The bible? no. It was the Gun. The Gun made America and was ingrained as the saviour of it since its comparatively recent inception as a nation.

Now you see the NRA on tv nowadays and they are visibly comparable to preachers, zealous congregations and just as militant and insular. The only major difference betwePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.100589

>>100512

Responsible gun owners are not ass hats.

Leaving a gun in reach of a child is a crime in some States.

Shall we have more laws?

Did you read the entirety of the existing laws?

Read the existing laws.


 No.100628

>>100587

I guess you don't really ""need"" to know why your screen-cap is inherently flawed not even past the first paragraph. And then will continue to elaborate a flawed understanding.


 No.100636

>>100588

woops i meant flash guards


 No.100648

>>100636

Most assault weapon bans define "assault weapon" as this:

A semi-automatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least one of the following characteristics:

(i) a folding or telescoping stock;

(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of

the weapon;

(iii) a thumbhole stock;

(iv) a second handgrip or a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand;

(v) a bayonet mount;

(vi) a flash suppressor, muzzle break, muzzle compensator, or threaded

barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor, muzzle break, or

muzzle compensator;

(vii) a grenade launcher

"Assault weapons" are not assault rifles.

Assault rifles are automatic and require a license to own.


 No.100649

>>100572

Federal Law (Constitution) is above State Law.

McDonald vs Chicago

Caetano vs Massachusetts

DC vs Heller

US Constitution, Article 6, Clause 2




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 No.100123[Reply]

Anarchy: What it is, and what it isn't

For some reason it's really hard for a lot of people to grasp a simple concept.

"The word anarchy comes from the ancient Greek ἀναρχία (anarchia), which combines ἀ (a), "not, without" and ἀρχή (arkhi), "ruler, authority." Thus, the term refers to the state of a society being without authorities or an authoritative governing body."

Nothing more, nothing less. It doesn't mean what leftist cucks did with the term later on, this is what the word means "without authorities or an authoritative governing body".

So unless you think you can change ancient Greek definitions, gtfo with your garbage interpretations of it.

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 No.100526

>>100521

>Proudfag was the first who called himself anarchist, therefore he invented anarchy.

I understand your statement, it's a false statement. I simply disagree with you, can we move on now?


 No.100527


 No.100529

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Larken explains it pretty damn good as well IMO


 No.100566

>>100360

>when the genetically engineered catgirls revolt and turn us into their slave caste, this problem will be solved.

Why is this not an anime yet?


 No.100567

>>100299

>Anarchism, with its own famous symbol

Which was "commandeered" from the scarlet A for adulterer. Leftists, just like with property, cannot operate without stealing another's ideas.




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 No.100380[Reply]

Okay /liberty/ (or any of our visitors), riddle me this:

>/pol/acks don't want a libertarian social order, because in the absence of a state, everyone would racemix and Jews would subvert us

>/leftypol/ does not want a libertarian social order, because in the absence of a state, everyone would discriminate against minorities

In other words, the fascists think that everyone is an SJW unless the state intervenes, and the SJW's think that everyone is a fascist unless the state intervenes. Both assume that people are naturally incapable of doing good, even though both have diametrically opposed conceptions of what is good.

How can that not cause anyone to have a moment of big thunk? Why are fascists not reassured by the fears of SJW's, and vice versa? My guess is, this is another case of the two ideologies of progressivism and slightly more right-wing progressivism being suspiciously close to each other, this time in a more psychological way. Both fascists and SJW's share not just the same authoritarian sentiment, but also the same misanthropic, paranoid streak.

I ignored correct labeling, for the sake of convenience. I don't care if these right-wing authoritarians are actually fascists or not, or if the left-wingers who are afraid of racism are SJW's or black supremacist Maoists.

 No.100390

>>100380

>Why are fascists not reassured by the fears of SJW's, and vice versa?

The mind works in mysterious ways, and statists are notorious for their retardation.

That being said, I dont think people's fears ever reassure other people's fears. For fascists the gov isnt fascist enough, and for SJW's it's not SJW enough. I dont see how SJW's should be reassured by fascists thinking the gov isnt fascist enough.

In the end, statism is built on fear, and voting is just a way of attempting to enforce your will on your neighbors through proxy. It's not just fear what we're dealing with, people think they know what's best for others, better than they do themselves. The ruling class is an extreme example of this, but it's the same mindset I see with pretty much every other statist.

Fascists are also just another form of SJW imo, people just need to focus on themselves instead of constantly trying to change others and impose their will on them.

In poker there is this saying: "Do not try to understand the fish (bad players), because they don't even know what they are doing themselves"


 No.100393

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>>100380

>>/pol/acks don't want a libertarian social order, because in the absence of a state, everyone would racemix and Jews would subvert us

the main argumenta I hear from /pol/acks about opposing libertarianism are these

>monopolies, cartels

>muh Jewish libertarianism

>degeneracy

>free trade = globalism

>immigration

>well being of society

>>/leftypol/ does not want a libertarian social order, because in the absence of a state, everyone would discriminate against minorities

leftypol uses these arguments

>it's a return to feudalism

>capitalism had contradictions

>you can't do capitalism

>muh equality

etc

>Both assume that people are naturally incapable of doing good, even though both have diametrically opposed conceptions of what is good.

that's easily refutable. show them pic related


 No.100482

>>100390

>Fascists are also just another form of SJW imo, people just need to focus on themselves instead of constantly trying to change others and impose their will on them.

Funny you mention that, I am currently writing an essay on this very topic, on how we should not just live for politics. Because, I swear, people these days need to be told how to breath. It doesn't occur to them that they might be depressed and blackpilled because all they ever do throughout the day is to read the news. You have little shits who have never worked a day in their life, never been to gym, and never kissed a girl, but because they read a bit and hang out on /pol/ often, they are confident that someone's going to read their manifesto. Remember "Unionism"? That kind of thing.


 No.100522

>>100482

Yeah, idiots use terms like "the Great Awakening" and axtually think questioning politics is anything new.

People think the masses are getting smarter and are "waking up" but IMHO they are clearly getting dumber by the day. People weren't so incredibly conformist and gullibe back in the day. They all just scream "woke" while being a dependent little statist.




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/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL

This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, right-libertarianism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the Libertarian RIGHT General. Left-Libertarians, Cosmopolitan freaks, Open borders cucks and other assorted libertine degenerates need to fuck off.

>LIBERTARIANISM DOES NOT MEAN OPEN BORDERS, MORAL DEGRADATION, HYPER-INDIVIDUALISM OR LAWLESS CHAOS. /lrg/ IS THE A STAND AGAINST THE LEFT-LIBERTARIAN AND ANTI-MORAL LIBERTARIAN MENACE, DON'T COME HERE PREACHING THAT GARBAGE AND DONT ASSUME WE SUPPORT THOSE LOSERS.

Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking.

THREAD RESOURCES:

>Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/7K1EJYb8

>Discord & Book Club: sXwfD5K

RECOMMENDED MATERIAL:

>Anatomy of the State (Murray Rothbard)

https://mises.org/library/anatomy-state

>For a New Liberty (Murray Rothbard)

https://mises.org/library/new-liberty-libertarian-manifesto

>Democracy: The God that Failed (Hans Hermann-Hoppe) - http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf

>Bump for Life, Liberty, and Private Death Squads

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Based.


 No.100495

>>100404

so i must believe in natural rights to post here?


 No.100498

>>100404

>making a general on a board this slow

Are you retarded?


 No.100821

>>>>>>>>>>/pol/




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