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Ya'll need Mises.

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>So you disagree with:


>The Communists

Nope. Am one.

>The Marxists

Yup. And in fact Marx was run out of the International for proposing the corporation-as-the-state.

>The Leninists

Yup. Only entered Russia after a successful socialist revolution to overthrow it, disband the soviets, and in his words, implement capitalism.

>The Maoists

Yup, though there's been some maoist-anarchist peace later on. You're also getting redundant here; M/ML/MLM are just narrower subsets.

>The Social Democrats

Yes, and it's a wing of capitalism.

>The Democratic Socialists

Yes, mostly because an external state is incompatible with socialism. See the bitching about M/ML for details.

Also, it's not a coincidence that all the false flags you mention show up after marx was (rightfully) booted tfo.

>The pirates purchased a share of the venture

Citation needed.

>and work in it as part of a contractual obligation

Citation needed.

> the list of socialists would expand to encompass every freelancer and almost every startup ever.

It usually does.

> I'm not a moron who religiously adheres to everything that was ever said by an intelligent though by no means unerring 19th century philosopher

Being unfamiliar with it is a different question.



>Citation needed.

Well that's great because >>95814 provided one.

> the list of socialists would expand to encompass every freelancer and almost every startup ever.

>It usually does.

hahaha, good one



>Marxism isn't real communism

Am I the only one that thinks it's hilarious whenever someone says this?



>Well that's great because >>95814 provided one.

…which doesn't back your claims in the slightest, so….


It's because you're a moron.



I've always thought it was dishonesty. I mean, marx getting booted for proposing corporations-as-the-state is open history, there's nothing to debate, as was his status as a capitalist analyst before he gave union-busting a try.

…but he was *their* *guy*. They just can't let it go and have to keep pushing it, just how our "proudhonian" went from "the difference between capitalism and socialism is that capitalism is horizontally worker-controlled enterprise while private ownership is socialism" to motherfucking "capitalism is when resources are divided evenly among members of the commune." With no faith and credit in their own position, lies and distortion are what they have… and they have to cling to it like a drowning man to a flotation buoy.

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If tomorrow were held an election where the communist party would face a party in favor of the free market and private property but not perfectly libertarian, most of libertarians would stay home in order to remain "pure".

Libertarians are a bunch of cucks. They can't do any significant political action, they don't have the courage to support initiatives that can further freedom in the non-free world we live in. They would rather face communism than making a choice with some consequences for once in their life.

That's why I find libertarians disgusting. At least commies move their ass even if it means supporting iniatives that aren't perfectly communistic. Instead libertarians will sperg at anyone that proposes something that can have a positive impact on our societies now.

You are shit.

Fuck you.

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You sound like those tumblr people who can't say "Donald Trump" or "Gamergate" so they say "Gronald Grump" and "Goobergate".



Its eaisier to support Dems with socialist ideals than actually find Libertarian canidates with free thinking ideals, and good publicity with backers who could actually get votes from people on both sides who belive in those ideals than the ones of both sides.



>Its eaisier to support Dems with socialist ideals

Find them, no… but support them, yes.



No adult or anyone with a brain is going to be a "libertarian" though. If you've ever unironically had some yellow anarchist 'A' symbol to define you or called yourself an anarchist in a freemarket (even though this is a contradiction) way sort of thing



>no real scotesman

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How about we for example support the lefties in the "give everyone money"-welfare in order to collapse the state's monetary system. It's obviously way more realistic than big Ls who actually think they can do shit except stripping. Also, we don't really want a smaller state. A smaller state is a healthier state, and is thus more viable through time than a large one. For the state to disappear, I think its system should become so authoritarian that the whole population of Normandie would stop following it due to its ridiculous expections.

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>USSR was a much better country than RF

1965-1985 - over 5 million abortions every year in RSFSR

85-00 - 2 to 1 million abortions a year

00+ - less than 1 million abortions a year



>The commies destroyed Russia's small but fast-growing industrial economy

The meme needs to end. Russia already overtook France in industrial output by WWI. It's like calling modern Japan a small economy because it is below China. By PPP and modern calculations, the Russian Empire was below only Germany in Europe, and only slightly below, slightly above UK without the empire.

The list would be:

1. The British Empire

2. USA

3. Qing China

4. The German Empire

5. The Russian Empire

Qing, Germany and Russia were very close to each other, Russia would overtake both by 1920's no World War Commie happenings, and maybe even overtake the US by 1950's.

A shame the Russian Empire was a ~60% 'White' country with very large very young populations dealing with shit like echo of serfdom the second decade into XX century. The commies happened to have solution to every problem and of course they made it even worse.

How the fuck can somebody advocate a shithole of a country that had kolkhoz serfdom abolished in 1974, trying in futile to avoid famine in world once prime exporter of food, is beyond me, unless the advocate happened to have a Party granddaddy or is a religious zealot.

Seriously, the kolkhoz agriworkers didn't have right to voluntarily leave their village region until 1974 for fucks sake. Can you image the US abolishing slavery in 1974?

Fucking nonsense, how can anyone advocate a slavery based eternally poor and hungry dystopia.


>How about we for example support the lefties in the "give everyone money"-welfare

>OP pays triple the taxes to provide for welfare leftists

>OP dies of hunger

Genius plan.



>Russia already overtook France in industrial output by WWI

…Except I agree with that, if you read the article I posted it actually talks about the overtaking of France specifically. You're making the exact same claim that I was making, that if it wasn't for commie retardation Russia would have been immensely rich and productive. The only reason I called it "small" was because Russia is a good deal more populous than France.


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>The only reason the USSR lasted as long as it did was through constant technology updates "borrowed" from the West, and using the prices of Western markets as a crude template on which to base their central planning schemes.

It also shouldn't be forgotten that the Soviet economy depended mostly on the sale of natural resources which the west had no problems buying from us, so in other words, all that world conquest, all of those nuclear warheads and aircraft carriers and military bases around the world and everything else that the Soviet Union had was essentially funded by the west.


>A shame the Russian Empire was a ~60% 'White' country

Dude, it was an empire, so of course it was only "60% white" before losing its colonized territories, but you said it yourself, serfdom wasn't abolished until the 70s, so you can't exactly compare a country like that to a country like the US where nigs and spics were free to migrate to white cities and also have various anti-discrimination laws protecting them.

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Ancaps are literally the goblins

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>Ur shitposting

nice argument bruh


>calls someone pussy

>calls a philosophy a joke

You're funny, i'll give you that




These still arent any responses and is just further illustration of the sort of person that would be an "ancap" is.

Ancaps are conspiratorial, often crypto-nazis, anti american, and hold completely inconsistent in their beliefs, with contradictions held together with faulty logic.


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>you must remain vigilant as a citizen to ensure those in power arent doing any shady shit, and if they are, you vote them out.

Seems inefficient to constantly monitor and physically remove one's oppressor and replace with another oppressor. Why not decentralize the state or better yet remove the middle man altogether and engage in mutually beneficial transactions?



>Because the party that loses the arbitration is not going to just submit, you giant fucking idiot. They will likely fight back with violence the moment it doesn't go their way

Both parties agree ahead of time on a neutral arbitrator before the arbitration commences. Any perceived disservice or unfairness can harm an arbitrator’s reputation. Violence by one party is unlikely as other parties may not wish to deal business with them and may be hindered by IPOs.

When the matter is something of huge value, or something people are emotionally invested in (rape, muder etc), it's not going to be settled by a fucking private arbitrator.

Any proof of this assertion?

>If people don't hurt others because a someone threatens to hurt them if they hurt others - that means they won't hurt anyone if there's no one to threaten to hurt them if they hurt others."

How about providing a quote instead of a questionable paraphrasing? Murray makes the point that private defense agencies (and people in general) have an economic incentive not to cause violence because of budget/personnel constraints, detraction of customers, more favorable expenditures in non-violent ventures.


>This is also stupid as fuck since armies are specifically to fight against any foreign aggressor and not to put down any "peasant revolt" like he seems to imply.

If armies were meant to specifically fight foreign aggressors, then why were they used in the Whiskey Rebellion?

>he just automatically assumes that any "minority" group that the police would use their force to crush are obviously some noble crusaders for truth and he never even considers the fact that they could be violent criminals.

Can you provide any quotes to prove this assertion?

>Consider his implied argument:

>1. Minority dissenters are by definition good.

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I'm so sick of taxes and niggers.

Our ancestors revolved and kicked ass because of some pissant tea tax. Now look at us and the yawning abyss we used to call our asshole.

I'm so fucking goddamn sick of niggers and taxes.



Majority: Kennedy, joined by Thomas, Ginsburg, Alito, Gorsuch

Dissent: Roberts, joined by Breyer, Sotomayor, Kagan

liberals besides the Evil (((Ginsburg))) sided with reason, that sales taxes are regressive and depress growth.

"conservatives" strike again

I'm just so fucking sick of niggers and fucking taxes.


>Our ancestors revolved and kicked ass because of some pissant tea tax

And the very first thing the gubmint did after that was installing a whisky tax instead.



you mean usa's gov?


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who was in wrong here?

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Based slav man stabbing the mexiniggers. Slavs should migrate em mass to mexico, they'd solve every problem in there.



Look at those cowardly monkeys, even in a mod they still don't charge at him.

And he was insulting f*males too and calling them degenerates and niggers, and he was one man vs a whole city, that guy is a hero and old /pol/ irl.




Alextime has nothing to do with nazism or ideology at all, he is literally mentally ill and used to be treated for schizophrenia back in Russia - not with much success as you can see. In 2012-13 he recorded several videos of harassing random people in his native town.

He had a lot of money (made by stock trading in 90s or 2000s) and traveled to several countries from Russia. He ended up in Mexico and in some unknown way got there a refugee status and political asylum in 2014. For several years he was recording more videos of harassing and attacking random people or with crazy talk on various topics, like about random people plotting against him, or like about how he saw two faggots at the local cemetery and urinated on them, or like about how he is happy that several russians died in a subway terror attack. His youtube channels were actually quite popular, many people found fun to watch his idiotic adventures. After all he did not do anything really harmful to anyone until the night he was lynched, when he stabbed one guy.

Looks like at some point some mexicans discovered his videos, concluded that he is some sort of anti-mexican nazi and spread this to the wider public.

It surprises me how he managed to live in Mexico for several years before the 'lynching' happened without anyone noticing that he is crazy and behaving really strange, the authorities and other people weren't giving any fuck about it, it seems.



He's like Terry Davis, he became that way after he got fucked in the head somehow.


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This is what happens when there are no laws protecting rights. Wholesale slaughter and abuse for the bottom line. The modicum of "humane" practice even bothered is entirely due to government regulations and would be absent in the ancap free market. Now imagine a scenario where no laws protect humans. This is what will happen to workers in an ancap society, free of the protection of the state. This is the future of you misled idiots, you are not going to be the elite. The state is absolutely critical for civilization, every case where ancap ideals are simulated ends in disaster.

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Cannibalism was prevalent wherever Commies destroyed food. I am absolutely serious, there are still gangs of cannibals in Kuban region that still kill and eat humans. About a year ago the police caught a gang that killed and ate humans, pickling and salting human meat for future consumption.

Google Краснодарские Каннибалы, a guy was caught because he took a photo of himself with a semi-eaten human hand in his mouth and it somehow leaked. It seems people who preferred not to butcher their neighbours had problems procreating, while cannibalistic commies didn't.

I can't upload files because of Tor, but you will find a photo of policemen holding a jar. With pickled human flesh in it. You can even add банка to the query to find it first image in.

I wish I was trolling, but I'm not. This is the shit sowed by Communism in my country, fucking cannibal gangs around regions heavily stricken by Holodomor.



Meat is and always will be more expensive to produce. Communist societies have always had to survive mostly on plants. Not exactly by choice.



Meh, besieged Leningrad high rank party members could get things like elite mutton from the Caucasus while literally the next building people ate 125 grams of bread made mostly of chaff daily, because they have since already fried all the cats or rats or dogs. Working in Party cafeteria or shops got you access to scraps and leftovers while others had to subsists on road dust or cannibalism, or have some skill valuable to high-ranking Party members. I've read a story from grandkids of such a woman who had a reputation to do great nail care, so high ranking Party members' wives paid her with potatoes or even meat leftovers, hence she and her kids survived (the husband got drafted and died early in the war iirc).

There's a picture of a menu from the Siege time from one of the State workers cafeteria having said mutton in stock, with much other meat or pastry to choose from. So making most of the city dwellers subsist on chaff or rats wasn't necessary. Except why do this if there are no incentives to actually feed them. If they can't rebel with weapons or stop working (capital offense, skipping work or being late punished by death under Stalin, prison labour later) or leave the country (death for attempts to leave the USSR), why feed the proles above most basic subsistence.

So there was an abundance of meat products in the USSR. The thing is, only high ranking Party members had access to them, by design. Others by design could leave secret time capsules in buildings they built, complaining how they could not afford a piece of beef in years due to "Brezhnev shipping free food to niggers in Cambodia".

There was that story when a KGB worker got rewarded with free sausages and brandy and was riding back in a suburban train in early 80's, as I recall. He got stopped by the police on made-up charges, had his foodstuff "confiscated" and himself brutally beaten to death in the precinct, even though he stated multiple times that he was a KGB worker and hence was openly above the law. Neither did he technically do any crime, he was just riding home with foodstuff. The policemen chief later verified that the dead guy had real KGB documenPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



>human rights for animals

>confederate flag

>countersignalling capitalism for the state

dohoho! What a mad cuck. This is what the south did for Negroes to sell cotton.




>human rights for animals

>confederate flag

>countersignalling capitalism for the state

dohoho! What a mad cuck. This is what the south did for Negroes to sell cotton.

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How the flying fuck do bond rates go below the FED funds rate? In what universe does that make sense?

How bad is this recession going to be this time, /liberty/?

Also, what should I do to prepare?

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The U.S. yield curves are hella inverted at the moment, that's a very traditional indicator of recession.


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It's flat, only the 5 year is inverted.



>It's flat, only the 5 year is inverted.

You're proving the other poster right, but you're saying this like you're disproving the other poster.



The yield curve inversion that usually leads to recession is when the 10 year yield is below the 2 year one because everyone is buying into the longer term assets and forgoing the shorter term ones.

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How does Vienna manage to have a decent public housing program? Apparently, the city also ranks #1 in Mercer's Quality of Life.


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then, why doesn't antarctica have the best housing when it's the whitest continent? checkmate, statist


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Antarctica isn't actually white, it's more of an eggshell.



They would if the government open the blockades.



>give free houses to increase birth rate

>fight with overpopulation and destroying of wildlife




Overpopulation is a meme.

Africa is overpopulated, not a single peep about it.

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>The IGDA (International Game Developers Association) on December 31, 2018, pushed new details regarding CVAA (21st Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act 2010). The high level CVAA will require any communications functionality and any UI used to be compliant and suitable for those with a wide range of conditions.

>Failure to comply will allow complaints to be made to the FCC and possible fines.

>Starting from January 1, 2019, games launched in the US must ensure they are accessible to people with disabilities. Here is some more information taken from the IGDA website regarding how games are affected based on their development progress.

>“The criteria must be considered from early in development, and people with disabilities must be involved in some capacity in the design or testing process.”

>Should the game not meet the standards and fail to comply, it will lead to customer complaints being issued to the FCC. From there the FCC will mediate and look into efforts made to fix the issues, and how feasible it would be to fix. The customer can also choose to extend the period of time the FCC allows for the fixes to be implemented, however, if the customer chooses not to extend the period of mediation, substantial fines may be issued.

>(b) Accessible – The term accessible shall mean that:

>(i) Operable without vision. Provide at least one mode that does not require user vision.

>(ii) Operable with low vision and limited or no hearing. Provide at least one mode that permits operation by users with visual acuity between 20/70 and 20/200, without relying on audio output.

>(iii) Operable with little or no color perception. Provide at least one mode that does not require user color perception.

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If true, this is the end of videogames.


dog bless murica


Gamers are dead but for real doe




I wish, maybe there would be less retards then


This is easy to avoid. "These aren't video games, these are [something else]". Visual Novels, Interactive Electronic Experiences, etc. Not that this isn't a horrific event.

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Is there a cryptocurrency with a value based on some timeless desire of humanity like its lust for gold?

pic unrelated.

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And a Hoppe New Year


Thanks dude. Merry belated Christmas to you too.


Murray Christmas to you,/leftypol/

Also why am I banned again?

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The U.S. has left Syria.


The U.S. has left Afghanistan.


The U.S. has left Yemen.


The U.S. has legalized industrial hemp.


Finally, some things to fucking celebrate. If they stay that way, hopefully.

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>US leaves Syria

>Kurdish Leftist Militants and the Baathists form a united front against Turkey


Trump helping the socialist cause every day



They allied with Gassad.



You still have to deal with potential tankie backstabbing like during the Spanish Civil War and Ukraine. That's probably why Chomsky was worried, because he is old enough to remember all the times tankies betrayed anarchists and other non authoritarian leftists.


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>non authoritarian leftists.




yeah, no more wasting stolen money from the free man.

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looks like the internets favorite grinning avatar is coming of age.

but where do we go from here?

by the way, the model can be found here.





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>calling wojak "troll face"

is this a violation of the NAP? it better be


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it was originally made as a counter against wojak using the cool face image macro (aka troll face). if anything it should be called anti-troll face but ciepła twarz is more accurate




>calling meme face "wojak"

Prepare to get McNuked. Normalfag memes are cancer.

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<JC Denton: Despite all I’ve read about the Triads, I wasn’t prepared to see them operating in the open, on the streets, and wearing uniforms. Doesn’t the Chinese government care?

>Isaac: The Chinese leave Hong Kong alone. They barricade the roads to control trade to the mainland, but they know how business is done."

<JC Denton: I would think the secret smuggling operations of the Triads would disturb the Chinese government.

>Isaac: Maybe the Luminous Path, but China knows that the Red Arrow are business owners, entrepreneurs, community leaders, and that they protect the city from outside influences.

<JC Denton: You said 'outside influences.' What does China fear?

>Isaac: China is the last sovereign country in the world. Authoritarian but willing - unlike U.N.-governed countries - to give its people the freedom to do what they want.

<JC Denton: As long as they don’t break the law.

>Isaac: Listen to me. This is real freedom, freedom to own property, make a profit, make your life. The West, so afraid of strong government, now has no government. Only financial power.

<JC Denton: Our governments have limited power by design.

>Isaac: Rhetoric–and you believe it! Don’t you know where those slogans come from?

<JC Denton: I give up.

>Isaac: Well-paid researchers - how do you say it? - 'think tanks,' funded by big businesses. What is that? A 'think tank'?

<JC Denton: Hardly as sinister as a dictator, like China’s Premier.

>Isaac: It’s privately-funded propaganda. The Trilateral Commission in the United States for instance.

<JC Denton: The separation of powers acknowledges the petty ambitions of individuals; that’s its strength.

>Isaac: A system organized around the weakest qualities of individuals will produce these same qualities in its leaders.

<JC Denton: Perhaps certain qualities are an inseparable part of human nature.

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holy shit

>sexual jews

>eating cats

this is great



>turtle as something derogatory

i like turtles more than humans tbqh


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Holy shit



Conspiracy theories involving "Secret Cliques" like Muh UN Muh Rothschilds etc are fascist by nature



Class consciousness, on the other hand, is perfectly sound reasoning and not conspiratorial in the slightest.

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