/liberty/ - Liberty

>>98231

>>98251

>>98252

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>>98383

/liberty/ needs to make a board tan quik.

Also, waifu in the OP is from a /leftypol/ artist as far as I know.

>>80623

>not selling them to minarchists and ancaps alike

>giving them away for free on a message board

tsk tsk tsk

Americans scream tyranny is wonderful, but Americans are unable to explain why Cubans try to escape even though Cuba has gun control and free medical care.

Fuck Lincoln. Someone should have shot him sooner.

>>100858

Hitler actually loosened gun control laws. Except he took them from Jews

<King George III wanted to take peoples guns

<Martin Luther King JR. was BASTE

<Abraham Lincoln didn't shred the constitution when he broke habeas corpus among other things.

cringe.

>>100882

<King George III wanted to take peoples guns

it's true, though

>>100881

I honestly wouldn't put too much stock in Donald Trump but this could be interesting if it actually evolves into something (Which it really seems like it won't as unfortunate as that may be).

Why are most economists thrown off by the idea of reviving the gold standard?

>>100901

Probably because it would embarass most of them if it worked, as the "wisdom" of a good deal of their teachers was that the gold standard was terribad, but also because from their perspective, it seems extremely wasteful. Warren Buffets old comment that aliens would think us crazy for digging out gold and burying it in a fortified compound, never to let anyone touch it, is a very convincing one if you do not understand monetary theory. Which, surprise surprise, the economists don't.

Also, don't forget that the state is practically addicted to inflationism. If you are an economist who is completely against it, you probably won't make it in any ministry, and that also means having less prestige as a professor.

Let's see if anything comes out of it first.

>>100881

I like the Trump presidency so far. He unironcically seems to be the only person in American politics who realizes actual threats to America like Chinas domination of the markets, or the fact that south american shitholes are taking advantage of America by manipulating soft hearted and dull witted liberals (reminder that the migrant caravans are all supported by the Honduran government) And all the major foreign policy concerns that people had about him were bullshit anyway. Mueller Report confirms that the Russian collusion conspiracy theory was just a retarded conspiracy theory the entire time, and his talk about other countries not paying into NATO which critics all said was him trying to destroy NATO just ended up making them pay into more, which made it even stronger.

I've yet to see any actual complete criticism of him that wasnt complete dogshit conspiracy trash.

>>97258

considering you have nothing to back up your premise in the first place, Im going to say no

>>100870

Lack of evidence presented does not prove or even suggest that a premise is false.

>>100853

ashkenazi are majority among jews

All jews are left-wing leaning parasites

>>100779

There's very little sexual about it. Commie rhetoric about helping everyone appeals to their maternal instincts, and the free stuff they promise appeals to their desire to find a provider.

>>100780

yes i agree

women are natural-born commies

this is why we should focus on females and not on jews or masons

>>100755

It is our duty to become alpha chads so that we may protec our wamen from the commie menace.

>>100827

>our women

are you slave-owner?

>>100830

Women will be privatize.

>>100878

>Want me to read it?

Look, you queer, no one "wants" you to read this. No one gives a shit if you adopt our views or not, it's not as if adding a room-temperature IQ bag of flesh to our ranks is going to provide us much benefit. If you want to "have a discussion," the onus is on you to make yourself literate enough to engage conversation. Part of that entails proving that you can engage in coherent argumentation, by which I mean something that occurs on a level above fallacious whataboutisms so depressingly common that people have compiled entire lists of them (http://v.i4031.net/StatistFallacies). People spam articles at you because their time can't be wasted answering questions that they've already answered a dozen times over, posed by a dozen different socialist retards, each of which thinks he's being original. By reading and absorbing the articles, you prove that you have the attention span to engage in your much-vaunted "discussion" on a level which does not waste our time. If you woud like to earn the privilege of a proper reply, prove that you are worthy of it.

>it’s something you put zero effort into.

Once again, you have thus far given no indication that you are worth the effort.

>>100722

>Please for the love of god stop just posting misses articles. At least post some green texts of highlights I’ve wasted so much time reading your guys garbage. Ill read this when i get a chance but put some effort into your posting especially if you expect me to take 30 mins out of my day to read your shit.

Well I did my best, but I think you're out of your depth intellectually here dude. This is like sophomore level econ. It makes sense now that you're a boomer republican. This entire response proves that you are a retard.

>>100708

This guy's right. Monopolies are not inherently negative unless they're artificially propped up by anti free market policies. The point is, any "monopoly" you might think of was artificially propped up by anti free market policies. In a free market, the organization that best serves the consumer wins; that's how competition works. Monopolies as you think of them only happen when the government intentionally suppresses competition so that there are fewer options in a market. It's really not that hard of a concept to understand, maybe try actually reading a book.

>>100859

Oh, it's just an excerpt. I'd have been surprised if he would read even that, but hey, at least he cannot say we didn't help him out.

>>100878

>make me believe you read it, and its not in bad faith, With a nice long effort post to spice up discussion.

>I have a job and a girlfriend sperg boy! I cant read everything especially when it’s something you put zero effort into.

Believe it or not, you're not the only one here who has a life. That I do is the reason why I don't tend to make as many posts as I used to, especially because a lot of the time, it simply didn't pay off. I had a very cordial discussion with an anon once about the action-axiom, and he thanked me for making him understand it better. Months later, he claims I did not help him. Not to mention the dozens of times I dropped names, dates, statistics, and even sources in discussions, only for people to ignore them. So yes, I don't make a big effort for just anyone, not anymore.

Anyway now, here you go, the abbreviated version of Rothbards chapter, from my memory: Ancient Ireland had no political caste at all, no standing police or army, no law, and the kings only duty was to coordinate war efforts. He was commander in chief and that was it, he did nothing else, ever. Criminal punishments were fines, to be collected by private persons, and instead of courts, you had freelance jurists, who also held no political power. Their office, if you may call it so, was founded on custom and reputation. Despite all this, Ireland was doing quite well.

Your name is either Scott, or you just came to hear about the Beatles. But anyways, yeah, back then they had a crazy high taxation rate on the wealthy, and Harrison just learned that he was part of that club all of a sudden. I don't think it's being based, I think it's part of a "Free gibs pls" thing.

Pay attention to the bass line@0:57 , it suddenly goes Blackbird. Speaking of Blackbird, it's a favorite of mine. Paul can play genius-tier bass lines.

Speaking of genius-tier bass: John Entwiste.

>>100823

Is this the /liberty/ music thread?

>>88195

Don’t feed the Jews

>>87630

There obviously is a jewish conspiracy but it is disorganised, yes. That doesn't mean they themselves aren't aware of it or do not conspire with each other. It's not a bunch of heebs in one room trying to figure out how to destroy the white race, but many jews are working exactly on that and more.

>>93239

<There obviously is a jewish conspiracy but it is disorganised, yes

>but it is disorganised

It almost like Jews have both lefties and right wingers like anyone else, but it's easier to blame outsiders than admit your own people are shit as well.

>>93239

Nice necro

>>100337

Mises - Human Action.

>>100340

Ummmm… thanks?

Finished Edward Fesers Philosophy of Mind a while back, all in all a really good book, although not outstanding. I also read Peter Mansfields A History of the Middle East, which focused too much on political history for my taste, while it barely gave such events as the Armenian genocide any space at all, but it was nevertheless quite good. A decent primer if you want to understand this region of the world.

>>100347

the anime nigger

>>100846

Ah yes, sorry. That's Boku no Pico.

Social welfare never existed in America at the level it does today. People literally strved to death not a lot but people did, we should go back to that tbh because we have a system now Breaks up families and incentivizes garbage people having children. Because the more garbage you are the more handouts you get the governments essentially a enabler to maintain the status quo.

We need a sink or swim system where people are forced to swim or sink. It seems strange but in the past it was the reason people had stronger family bonds in poor communities. Because they literally had to rely on their family or die. It’s not a nice way to live but its the best way. Just look at the Ways social welfare has destroyed black neighborhoods

Poor people survive on the benevolence of others, as it has been since before Christ, but in the libertarian ideal there is no forced charity.

Paradoxically, the absence of a welfare state would produce greater welfare for the lower class because the money would be more efficiently handled and people would be more generous, seeing a personal obligation.

>>100729

thanks for my new favorite pasta

the tldr is failed economic theories and models.

then libs posting somalia memes

then angry libertarians butchering classical liberal talking points in defence angrily.

thats how libertarian ism works

do yourself a favour red noam chomsky and don't pay mind to conservative economic theories they are all really fucking dumb.

if you like freedom become a normal anarchist/syndicalist and don't play in the kiddy pool of libertarianism to long my best advice

>>100582

Rationing will ensure goods don't end up where they're needed the most. You will always have some people in need of the good who cannot get it because of rationing, because the state cannot reliably estimate where it is needed, and you will have people buying all of the good solely because it is rationed, perhaps to sell it to the first group of people. The latter is actually a very productive acticity, it alleviates the bad effect of a system of rationing.

Besides, how would rationing help deal with inflation and artificial wage raises? It won't.

>>100582

The only rationing that should happen in a market is price gouging.

>>100523

What is that fucking thing? It looks like it's about to burst.

>>100610

My phat dick being cleaned of smegma.

>>100380

>Why are fascists not reassured by the fears of SJW's, and vice versa?

The mind works in mysterious ways, and statists are notorious for their retardation.

That being said, I dont think people's fears ever reassure other people's fears. For fascists the gov isnt fascist enough, and for SJW's it's not SJW enough. I dont see how SJW's should be reassured by fascists thinking the gov isnt fascist enough.

In the end, statism is built on fear, and voting is just a way of attempting to enforce your will on your neighbors through proxy. It's not just fear what we're dealing with, people think they know what's best for others, better than they do themselves. The ruling class is an extreme example of this, but it's the same mindset I see with pretty much every other statist.

Fascists are also just another form of SJW imo, people just need to focus on themselves instead of constantly trying to change others and impose their will on them.

In poker there is this saying: "Do not try to understand the fish (bad players), because they don't even know what they are doing themselves"

>>100390

>Fascists are also just another form of SJW imo, people just need to focus on themselves instead of constantly trying to change others and impose their will on them.

Funny you mention that, I am currently writing an essay on this very topic, on how we should not just live for politics. Because, I swear, people these days need to be told how to breath. It doesn't occur to them that they might be depressed and blackpilled because all they ever do throughout the day is to read the news. You have little shits who have never worked a day in their life, never been to gym, and never kissed a girl, but because they read a bit and hang out on /pol/ often, they are confident that someone's going to read their manifesto. Remember "Unionism"? That kind of thing.

>>100482

Yeah, idiots use terms like "the Great Awakening" and axtually think questioning politics is anything new.

People think the masses are getting smarter and are "waking up" but IMHO they are clearly getting dumber by the day. People weren't so incredibly conformist and gullibe back in the day. They all just scream "woke" while being a dependent little statist.

>>100194

Think about it from a libertarian perspective. If someone is trespassing on your land you can shoot them legally right? The only question in the NZ case is WHO OWNS THE LAND… and the only realy answer is the one who has the monopoly of 'legitimate' (as supported by the media) force. History can play a factor but is only ever justification. The fact that (((central banking derived finance))) controls the media means they control the land… unless there is resistance. THe only difference between a 'terrorist' (ISIS) and a king (SAUDI ARABIA) is their power relative to each other nya~

https://meguca.org/nya/

>>100198

take your pills schizo

>>100143

>>100161

>It fucking was and still is

Restating the original goal is not goal shifting no matter how many times you complain.

>By being violated.

Passive statements do not answer the question. Was specific action(s) of violation?

>Something that doesn't exist in communism

No, as we see in the CNT, where they recognized personal property rights.

>No, it's not.

> NAP cannot claim anything.

>And NAP isn't about ethics.

Proof? I cited my source and you failed to provide a rebuttal.

>Who said anything about books,

It is a metaphor, moron. Your generic suggestion is analogous to that leftypol meme.

>So you are actually incapable of reading sentences

Your words <not mine:

<I would not, if they did not claim that it's in their domain.

<domain

There's no such thing as "moral law"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/moral%20law

>>99437

So you are against freedom of speech?

>>100047

because their goal is not to suck off shareholders but to keep the trust in the dollar

shareholders obviously dont like rate increases and therefore cried a shitton and even managed the fed to stop further increases for the near future

in my opinion the fed is one of the few institutions left in the us that still has some credibility

>>100062

actually lower interest rates were obviously the result of QE which was necessary due to the crisis which was initially enabled and therefore caused by lack of regulation of loans an mortages

People like rollercoasters, and like their currency to be a rollercoaster because rollercoasters are fun.

Thus they hate the central bank.

They want tiny-private-bank backed currencies that are subject to speculation.

they manipulate interest rates and caused the housing crisis

>>96984

>Rivers are a good example of collective, limited usufruct rights.

Not really. Rivers are as much of a collective property as fucking environment, which is to say, none. It could be called "reactive property" as it reacts and impacts the property of others, but that's only as far as it goes.

>You can own the fruits of your labour upon the river, but only insofar as the rights of the other users are maintained.

Fuck you and your commie rhetoric. You can do whatever the fuck you want and let anyone do whatever the fuck you want unless it causes damage to other's property. No rights except property rights, stick that labor up your ass.

>Another example of different principles arriving at the same conclusion.

Except he said nothing about labor. How much of a gay faggot can you be?

I enjoyed reading this thread, good stuff, thanks.

ancapistan will only fully be realized in spess where there is very little scarcity

anything on earf is just a compromises

>>95793

BASED