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Ya'll need Mises.

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Let's talk about fun Libertarian media, movies, video games, anime, music, anything that comes to mind. That goes for media that are actually libertarian in nature as well as those who simply have the themes of freedom in them.

>C: The money of soul and possibility control

An autistic battle-shounen themed around economics and taking the Austrian side of the debate.

>Outlaw Star

Not really Libertarian in the traditional sense of the word but has themes of freedom in it. The main characters are basically a bunch of adventurers that do not consider themselves to be under the jurisdiction of any law and follow the ideology of "Outlaws". They are not criminals mind you, just people who do not believe in the state having power over them.

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Would Snowpiercer count as libertarian media?


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I know there was one libertarian comic called the Voluntarist or something that was cringy because it put politics before telling a good story.


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> movies,


> video games,

super pozzed


mega pozzed


ultra pozzed

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Old one is auto-saging. Basic questions about /liberty/, socialist "gotchas" masquerading as basic questions, etc., go here. If you have a "what about ____" question you'd like to ask that you're really, really sure will stump everyone this time, do a quick look over this list: (http://archive.is/bbtHt) before you post–chances are, someone has asked that question before, and there's already an answer or answers available to you.

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>Is the Euro actually that worthwhile given all the EU shenanigans?

Not really, no. Fiat currencies are held together with nothing more than spit and prayer after all, and the Eurozone doesn't have much prayer going its way. At least the US had a fairly substantial productive surplus to whittle away over the years on which it backed the value of its monopoly money, and a fair amount of global prestige/military might in addition to that. The EU has none of those things, and next to zero productive surplus as they've already been whittling it away through social policies. Add in the fact that most of their security production (i.e. national defense) is subsidized by the US,and they're in an even worse position once that goes away.

I personally don't see the yuan as much better in the long run. Buying gold or no, they've been constantly devaluing their currency to subsidize all manner of non-productive investments, like those "ghost cities" you always hear about. I wouldn't count on it being stable forever.


Do you think it will ever reach a point where the left and right in the U.S. look at each other and say, "You know what? It's time to get a divorce," and then finally just go ahead and secede from each other?



We tried that already, and the Union turned out to be a very jealous lover. Once people have power, they get very touchy about losing it, especially when the form of that power loss is a large number of people saying the men in charge aren't good enough and leaving. All that being said, I do think the only viable path to liberty is a secession from the current order. But it won't come without a lot of bloodshed as the original government tries to reconquer the seceding party, unless the federal government has gotten so weak that it's unable to stop anything.



I thought low-to-negative interest would only influence the credit cycle crediting artificial booms and busts–but that longer-term semi-permanent malaise was a consequence of large government bureaucracies and regulatory capture? Otherwise, you would have expecting interest rate manipulations to have resulted in this outcome long ago.



The two factors don't have to be mutually exclusive–entrenched bureaucracy, overregulation, and regulatory capture all contribute to long-term malaise as well. But over repeated periods, consistently low interest rates will do something similar. Low interest rates incentivize consumption and immediate gratification over savings (which drives investment) and delayed gratification. Further, if the economy periodically goes into recession due to the results of the central bank's credit expansion, starting a new business or expanding an existing one becomes riskier, as there's always the chance that your investment will go under in the next recession. This makes economic growth riskier, and if it becomes riskier to expand production it will happen less often. In addition, you can point to low interest rates as an indirect cause of the failure of Japan to recover from their recession. The Japanese government responded to the crisis according to Keynesian theory, and continued to repeatedly attempt to stimulate the economy through various government stimulus packages. These served only to further drain resources from the private sector, and pump them into the unproductive dumpster fire that constitutes a government budget. Instead of being invested into productive activities, money either went into bureaucrat's paychecks, or was spent on failing companies that would not exist were it not for the government–insolvent construction companies to build various public works, or direct bailouts of failing banks.

>Otherwise, you would have expecting interest rate manipulations to have resulted in this outcome long ago.

Isn't that what's happened? There's a lot of growth that could have happened but hasn't, thanks to either manipulated interest rates, or to the government's response to the resultant crash. The fact that the economy has managed to continue trudging forward with a 1-ton weight chained to its ankle doesn't mean the weight isn't there.

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ITT: Post things we'll see in Ancapistan.

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You know I'm really bothered by the first image because I know the only reason you went with DeWalt was their color scheme.


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kys fucking animeposter

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>muh cuckstitution will prevent tyranny

Then explain mass surveillance, gun control, Waco, Ruby Ridge, the Fed, endless war, etc.



I would prefer if the government got rid of the laws that enable a small number of banks to wield such power in the first place, but I see no problem with using the state to restrict the power of firms that have obviously benefitted from the state, e.g. Goldman Sachs, Facebook. But I don't think that's going to happen, because the state is sponsored by these entities already, and the media either slanders or blackouts anyone who tries to enter politics with the goal of ending tyranny. Just look what they did to Ron Paul.



not prevent, but slow the fuck down and make it more difficult.

Take the difference between the UK and the US. Very similar culture, decently similar genetics. Yet, one country is a place where you get arrested because you twitted something "wrong" and can't buy a butter knife, while in the US you can write whatever you want and own guns.

Why is that? The UK didn't have any constitutional protection, so the first politician with a hitch to scratch could pass whatever the shit he wanted. Meanwhile in the US you need a big majority and then there is the supreme court and the fact that people are more easily educated in what are the basic rules of the society and that they include the government shall make no laws against freedoom of speech and that US citizens can have guns.

Of course this system is not perfect, but it's what we have now and what we have to work with. If you want perfectionism just look at communism and see the results.



just create your bank bro



>if you are against making laws to stop the banks from banning conservatives and libertarians because "m-muh gubmnenetns"

Point to someone advocating for such a law. All I see are people pointing out that these banks effectively are the government. I have no problem with using state violence against people that would seek to use the same against me.


There's a world of difference between acknowledging that the Constitution is occasionally useful as a speedbump and claiming that it's some all-powerful document capable of stopping big government in its tracks. It has some utility at present, but it's still fundamentally deficient as a preventative measure and should be replaced by something even more limiting at the earliest convenience.

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How would I survive with my mommy? By sucking her milkies, duh, are you stupid?



>How would you survive with mom

Fairly easily. I'd contribute monetary assets and the house, and she'd cook/pay the bills she can afford to pay. Fortunately we're both financially stable enough that this living situation isn't required.




You know he meant *without


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If he that meant, then why he that not said?



>what typo is

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The workers organise their own production like Bakounin 's collectivism but there is a state to tax and provide essential public services. I just came up with that idea, would that work?

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>essential public services

What services do you think are essential?


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Public toilets. I don't know how you ancraps plan to survive without them. Also, if all the roads are privatized, how will I be able to shit on the streets?



What OP means is that it's hard to have a business model where workers run a business the same way, for example, that a family runs a family business and shares the profits among themselves. Honestly, this isn't a bad way to run a business, but it's not ideal for everyone so I don't know why you would call yourself a libertarian if you want to force this on others. If anyone wants to share the means of production in ancap, they'll definitely be able to, they'll be able to start their communes or have entire districts in cities in which everyone runs their business this way.



>workplace democracy



>how will I be able to shit on the streets?

You can go to India.

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Libertarian-leaning incel board had this up:



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So to sum up, you'd stand by and allow your own family or friends to kill themselves and you think children "who could be described as individuals" don't have to listen to their parents, is that about right?



society pushed into your mind suicide is bad, but it isn't. the only reason suicide is actively fought against is because when someone kills himself, system doesn't have control over him anymore

also as stated, laws preventing suicide could be always twisted and abused because you cannot define exact state when person is doing harmful action to kill themselves and when not. smoking could be banned, because you're trying to kill yourself, same goes with unhealthy food, sports etc.



>So to sum up, you'd stand by and allow your own family or friends to kill themselves

I would not violate their right of self-ownership to stop them.

>you think children "who could be described as individuals" don't have to listen to their parents

That is not what I said. Saying that one possesses their own body does not mean that they don't "have to" listen to anybody. Though I don't know what you mean by "have to".



not the guy you're replying to but yes, it is their decision and although I love them, I can't forcibly hold them here knowing they're suffering, that would be selfish


Thanks for the screencaps guys. Its going to be a lot of help.

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>gay is okay

>fucking animals is okay

>polygamy/polyamory is okay

>freedom of speech/freedom to promote communism

>freedom of religion

>racial equality under the law


So when did you realize that you're basically just a moderate leftist?

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Wonder if Pepe likes Rainbows…hint hint Mememakers of magic…

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I literally saw a girl with an ass THIS fucking thicc today, the waist and everything else was slim though, like it should be. The most surprising thing is that she was really young too, I'm not even memeing, but she couldn't have been more than 18.



Without the goverment, who will keep me form killing niggers, marrying 12 years olf girls, raiding weaker communities, and disrespecting women? Check m8



Good point.





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Don't thank me.

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How do you think the gameplay of an ancap strategy game would ideally work?

For the story, I have two things in mind:

>1. You inherit a business empire, and have to get a monopoly on the whole market while trying to out-compete rival business groups and survive the growing power of the state as well as various anti-capitalist factions

>2. You are a multi-millionaire who is sick of liberal totalitarianism and leftism interfering with your life and the lives of your fellow countrymen, so you decide to take your fortune to some unoccupied territory and build a capitalist utopia with other like-minded businessmen while competing with their businesses, and fighting off aggressive states who are unhappy with the amount of freedom that you and your fellow ancaps (or not) enjoy

In ordinary RTSs, you just throw resources at the barracks to shit out soldiers, which go and secure more resources to enable you to shit out even more soldiers, and it's basically a contest between players of who can do this the fastest. No game (not even city-sims) ever takes the market into account, where you have:

>a realistic economy

>citizens having their own lives

>citizens having their own wants and needs

>citizens earning their own money

>citizens spending their own money

>citizens building the villages, towns and cities that you're supposedly trying to protect, and being responsible for all the progress in their part of the game world

>the player being a citizen like everyone else, who can take part in the market and influence it with what power he has (or if playing as the government, having society react appropriately to government laws/actions and looking work solutions and work-arounds to the problems that government creates)

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>Zoomercore games



pass on every opportunity to expand while other power maneuver themselves into superior positions

then ask your citizen if they would voluntarily stop for communist subversion destroying your culture and society


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mark games you played


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The blue stars are for games I played and the green stars are games I finished.



Are capitalists hyper-exploitative or are they short-sighted and incapable of reacting to issues in real time? You boot-lickers really need to make up your mind.

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You Can’t Make an Alternative to Patreon Because Banks Won’t Allow It - Andrew Anglin & Weev


>There is no way to create an alternative funding platform, because everything is a private company. I think that probably Dave Rubin and Jordan Peterson can create something that they will be allowed to operate – probably without PayPal, but with some bank doing credit card processing. And Sargon of Akkad will be allowed on that. For now, that will be allowed. Because I think that some people realize that this whole “shut it down” program is going way, way too fast. Eventually, it won’t just be PayPal that is shutting people down, it will be all banks and Visa itself. Because banks and Visa have the ability, technically, to deny people service based on their political ideology.

Couldn't there be a Patreon alternative that solely uses cryptocurrencies instead of credit cards?

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It worries me how libertarians are ignorant of how the State works. For all the hate we have for the State, I must say most of us are ignorant as fuck about how it works.

You faggots should really learn how the law and justice system works, then compare it to those of european countries, and then maybe you will stop shouting slogans like some deranged leftist and bring something useful to discussions and even your daily life.



>cash-less currency, social credit system and universal income

That is the future of the western civilization after the debt usury racket nullifies the economy. And crypto is a test run, and will be outlawed once the official currency launches. This is why the west is getting violently destabilized, to prevent retaliation once the west realizes that the jews have stolen all their wealth and freedoms.






these ressources will be owned by someone. what central ownship will do is alignment. however there is nothing inherent about central ownership that causes the ressource to be used in a good way.


Make a cryptocurrency bank?

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>less interest in following rules

Nothing wrong with that. Men are individualistic, and it is intellectually harder to choose another belief than to remain with the one you already have, so challenging the status quo implies having intelligence and logical reasons to do so.

>more psychologically unstable if raised as a girl.

More like "more psychologically unstable if raised by a single mom".



>Men are more individualistic than women on average




>. Men are more emphatic



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korwin fired firecrackers in front of his dog to show that dogs like firecrackers and he got sued by a moralfag


korwin said recently that he likes Uber employees (the alternative for taxis) serving him and he called them "niggers" xD

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Ebola Outbreak Map.Com


April 14, 2019

A migrant arrived sick vomiting blood with a high fever, the migrant arrived at the local airport from an international flight.

CDC officals boarded the plane and took the migrant off, while giving passengers forms to fill out to submit to CDC.

Passengers were given phone numbers to call in to report ebola virus symptoms for the next 21 days the incubation period for Ebola virus.







https is really only necessary in websites with sensitive user input.



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>It will be an offence to view terrorist material online just once – and could incur a prison sentence of up to 15 years – under new UK laws.

>The Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Bill was granted Royal Assent yesterday, updating a previous Act and bringing new powers to law enforcement to tackle terrorism.

>But a controversial inclusion was to update the offence of obtaining information "likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism" so that it now covers viewing or streaming content online.

>The rules as passed into law are also a tightening of proposals that had already been criticised by human rights groups and the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, Max Hill.

>Originally, the proposal had been to make it an offence for someone to view material three or more times – but the three strikes idea has been dropped from the final Act.


>Viewing terrorist propaganda online in the UK could now land you in jail - under a new law that's just come into force. Government says the new measure is aimed at preventing terror attacks.


First they lock up the guy exposing the criminals who run our governments (and threaten to extradite him to a US supermax gulag for life), and now they've passed a law where you will get 15 years in jail for viewing anything online (whether accidental or intentional) the UK government arbitrarily deems to be "terrorist material."

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North Korea is democratic too, they have it in name



Why shouldn't they? What you are seeing is the natural outcome of mass democracy being allowed to run amuck.



for political gain.

why would they be honest?


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In a computerized civilization, encryption is the fundamental building block of liberty.

Julian Assange



Well shieeeeet

So much for not using a VPN

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Seriously, who the fuck cares about the liberty of those who don't want it?

In the end a decently informed libertarian knows more about socialism than socialists themselves, but unlike socialists he also knows about capitalism too. This means that you, as a libertarian, can easily become a big defender and promoter of socialism.

Then with all those books/speaking/tv royalties/politics money, you can buy whatever you want, maybe even some land somewhere where you can build a libertarian utopia, if you still believe in it. But why buying land? You could just use your influence in the State to wage war and conquer lands for yourself. Or buy some cocaine and some prostitutes, who cares? Just enjoy the fruit of those cucks who want you to rule over them.

Honestly, it's a complete waste of time trying to let people know about the advantages and the morality of liberty. These people refuse liberty for themselves and others. Marx and associates gave us an exceptional tool to pilot the masses to work for our personal interests. Voluntary slavery. Think about it: if you were to cause suffering among the people with your socialist policies, it would be their choice. You would basically make socialist suffer while you run all the way to the (swiss) bank with their money. It's them who decided to vote for you, after you promised to put their neighboors down in order to make them all equal. They wanted evil, you just capitalized on it.

Of course there will be some innocent victims, but who really cares? It's nothing compared to the enormous amount of statists that will suffer. You will make them poor slowly, day after day. A taste of their own medicine.

I don't know about you, but I'm gonna join the local social-democratic party today.

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I don't. Only humans should have freedom, normalfags can't even make use of it.



I agree with this sentiment. That's exactly why I advocate for infinite freedom. Normalfags will always find chains to bind them. The problem is when they find chains to bind you, too.



> normalfags can't even make use of it.

because they are not pedos like you?



wow you proved him right



problem is that right now there is no way to get to infinite freedom. The sanest course of action is to understand how the State works and try to pilot it to get closer to freedom.

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It's been a week and I haven't seen a new ultra-commie thread, so I figure I'd post one for our commie friends, I'm sure they've just been too busy lately :^).


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When you run out of arguments you just imagine socialism with robots



>It's been a week and I haven't seen a new ultra-commie thread

That's a good thing, you dumb nigger.



Even that would fail.

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