/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>>261891

Well, you know, you are still catholic and it is really easy to get back. Get a catechism, read up on what is forbidden, reflect on your past and make an appointment to go to confession. In the mean time: go to mass (but do not receive communion until you have confessed). Easter is a good time to get back.

The problem with their feasts is that they are a reflection of how they just want to be part of a special tribe.

Christmas isn't celebrated because it's part of any law.

It's because you think 'time' exists in heaven.

You have the very shallow and childish idea that it's above the clouds with angels and harps.

Heaven (to be in the very presence of God, the one who created you, your heavenly Father) is the most blissful and glorious experience you can have.

There is nothing in this world that compares.

1. Time doesn't exist, time and space was created by God and only applies to this universe. God is outside of time.

2. You get a new resurrected body, incorruptable without sin. Can you imagine a perfect you?

3. You get to see God face to face and not die.

4. You get to travel the cosmos and see everything there is. You get to review all of human history (from beginning to end) and glorify God and His awesome power, holiness, righteousness.

Let me reiterate that time does not exist, you can't get 'bored' in heaven. Negative emotions and feelings don't exist in heaven. It is a perfect paradise and there is always something to do.

Heaven is beyond comprehention. It can't be described with words, it is beyond our capability of understanding. It is a different dimension.

Also, eternity will be spent on the New Earth (restored to Edenic conditions) but my point still applies.

>>261917

oh boy my proof reading

Life is a grand opera.

From beginning to end, it's a movie.

God allowed evil to exist because it shows God's mercy. It also shows that Satan's accusations are wrong. Christ on the cross is a testament to both angels and mankind that God was right and the devil is wrong.

We live in an epic drama - a cosmic/spiritual warfare.

Imagine seeing a movie where all is fine and dandy, nothing bad happens. It's boring isn't it?

We see movies with drama, action, sadness and conflict because it keeps us on the edge of our seat, it makes us reflect after the movie is over and cheer for the main character.

Now apply that analogy to life.

We will glorify God and be in eternal bliss because of the experiences we had with sin.

A dumbbell is meant to be heavy and go against you. It strengthens muscle.

Swords are sharpened by blacksmiths in a fire.

Likewise going through tribulation and hard moments makes you stronger in spirit. That's the whole point of being a Christian. We are Satan's number #1 target. We are soldiers behind enemy lines (this world). The Bible tells us how it will end, we simply have to hold on to our dear Lord & Saviour Jesus Christ.

Life is a opera.

God is the author of the greatest movie ever made.

>>261901

>I am a sayer of truths!

Let's see: how good an action is receiving a dick in your butt if you're a man?

Do you think angels fuck? Possibly taking dicks from behind aswell?

>>261913

Angels cannot have sex because they are eternal creatures. They do not die so they have no need for procreation.

The only exception are the fallen angels which joined Lucifer's rebellion against God. They mated with human women in the days of Noah and created giant offspring known as the Nephilim (that's where all the Greek mythologies come from).

>>261913

Angels cannot have sex because they are eternal creatures. They do not die so they have no need for procreation.

The only exception are the fallen angels which joined Lucifer's rebellion against God. They mated with human women in the days of Noah and created giant offspring known as the Nephilim (that's where all the Greek mythologies come from).

>>261210

Well, he pulled something I think it was major bull, claming that Hitler was religious nut job who used faith as a tool of control.

That is were the base of his argument, Governments uses religions(not just christianity) as tool to control the people.

>>261205

>I haven't read enough about them to make a decision on the matter if they were justified or not. Any good book on the matter?

This is a good place to start.

>>261783

Thanks Anon, that video was pretty good.

I found channel, I think it is pretty good.

I will start looking for books.

I wish I could talk with a historian.

https://www.youtube.com/user/RealCrusadeHistory/videos

The worst wars in human history had little to nothing to do with religion. The USSR and Eastern Bloc were explicitly anti-religion and they fought a number of wars. It seems to me that your friend is confusing correlation with causation. People fight wars over access to resources. Any other reason is secondary.

Atheist wars:

Napoleon

WW1

WW2

Stalin, Hitler, Mao, etc.

Copernicus gave way to Darwinism which gave way to Socialism/Communism and the cancerous "enlightenment".

Not defending the antichrist actions of the Papal Rome (inquisition, crusades and inventing horrible torture devices) that has murdered and burned millions of Christians at the stakes, but the atheists have done equally bad if not worse.

You only have to look at the French Revolution and Bolshevik Revolution to see how barbaric nations become when they turn atheist.

Scientists should be investigating the God hypothesis since its so important to everyone, of any religion…even atheists want to know

>>257998

all of aquinas' five ways are a posteriori arguments, and thus technically are empirical.

as a matter of fact, the a priori (non-empirical) arguments for God are normally dumb ass ones, like Anselm's ontological argument.

>>257896

> power of science

As an actual microbiologist I don't even understand what you are asking. You can "scientifically" analyse anything. Make a hypothesis, test it and have a control group. The real issue is that much like psychology analysis - you have several variables. Now imagine you are analyzing prayer and healing. How would you actually measure faith? How do you provide quantifiable data?

Science has become a dogmatic religion.

It's hijacked by the Freemasons to serve a satanic agenda.

Gone are the days when science simply meant the study of things. Now it's become monkey-man God-hating pop science.

>guys he wears a labcoat, that means he's a scientist! you stoopid primitive christians the earth is a ball, the black science guy said so..

>>261882

It's Protestant. Other than that it's pretty good.

>>261886

>It's Protestant

It's Christian, yeah.

>>261318

No not all men are equal.

We know that every person in the bible got associated with a blessing and sometimes a curse.

For example we know of the curse and blessing of Ismael and the blessing of Israel.

>So God created man in his own image

God created ADAM in his own image, but the bible says that his sons where created after ADAMS image, not Gods (genesis 5:3).

That is why the seed of Adam was cursed to die because of the curse on adam.

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Every tribe/nation is a image of their ancestors. With each generation the curses and blessing multiply by addion, so thats why we have this vastness of diffrent nations.

The arabs have the blessing and curse of Ismael, thats why they are big in number but also all times at war with others and each other.

But we can take the best example with israel, each tribe has his own blessing put down by Jacob (Genesis 49) and this shows to be true throug out the bible, most of the tribes where envious of Ephraim and Manassa, but if they are all equal why are they envious?

We know that Jacob and Esau were completely diffrent people in character and apperance, but they where born twins. Esau was tanned and hairy as the fur of a goat, but Jacob was light skinned and more of a house person.

The bible shows that from a single seed a vastness of people can be created.

But just to make it simple, just as you have hundrets of dogs races each coming from just a few wolves and each one more diffrent than the other. It would be stupid to not accept this reality in humans.

You have intelligent and stupid dog races, you have high performers and low performers, you have big and small dogs, all coming form one comon ancestor.

So if your church group calls this Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

Races all come from the sons of Noah. Shem begat the middle east, Japheth is the father of the whites and Ham whose name means "burnt" is the father of the blacks.

Whether you go by what the cultures themselves say (Ethiopians says they are of Sheba son of Ham, Chinese claim Noah had other children later, and they are of that) What Josephus says (I think he was incorrect on a few) Or whatever the modern critics say, some things are pretty well agreed on. Madea is the father of Persians, Elam is the father of Pakistan and India, Mizraim son of Ham is Egypt.

Of course people are different. Most southeast Asians have bad eyesight, whites are more prone to melanoma, lots of problems are genetic even dyslexia.

God is a Spirit, there is no physical likeness to copy aside from Jesus. I think it meant our capacity for higher thought.

>>261432

Cannanites are extinct, but yes it did happen. Modern blacks who were slaves are of Phut son of Cush son of Ham. He had no curse, only Cannan did.

>>261335

Other BIG BLACK things ;)

We are all the same as in all 'kind'.

But a 'kind' of animal can have many variations, see dogs, spiders, etc.

Adam and Eve were brown and out of that came the diversity of very light brown (what we call "white" people) and dark brown. We are all a different shade of brown.

And yes, race is not just skin deep. There are different genetics and facial structures in the same way you have many different breeds of dogs. But they still remain dogs.

If you can create offspring, you're of the same kind (I use the Biblical definition, not the retardedly vague evolutionist term "species").

We also have souls. God created every single person so He loves all of us. He does not want any of us to perish (hence Christ dying for our sins).

>nationalist abominations

You let the b8 slip

>>261621

>it up to debate which ones are more.

Nope. There's no debate, the most corrupt government in the world is that of the USA; closely followed by North Korea.

>>261246

We can make the same argument about all the American Zionist Christians who are brainwashed by the Scofield Bible.

>Wanting a king (Putin)

>>261462

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>>261698

10 Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. 12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. 15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. 16 Your male and female servants and the best of your cattle[a] and donkeys he will take for his own use. 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you in that day.”

>>261450

>Also, to address the subject of the thread, I think it's worth pointing out that sex abuse is an absolute intrinsic evil, whereas supporting Putin and his regime is debatable.

And how does one know that the only sin of the Orthodox is nationalism? Let's face it Russian (or any other country where orthodoxy is popular) stats are not the most reliable….. who is to say Russia doesn't have a massive meth problem, youth huffing paint, Orphanages where thePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>259212

St. Augustine brought up Onan as his argument. I still think he was mistaken and did not understand levirate marriage or Judaism. The Lust argument is the only real one.

>>259205

Did you even read the catechism? Read it and then come back and say what you think it teaches on your question.

>>258756

Porn (much like anything) can follow the psychological definition of addiction. Does a tolerance develop? Do withdraw symptoms form? There is not a one size fits all answer for addiction. However, some definitely can need a "stronger fix" of porn. In other words these people build a tolerance and therefore may be building an addiction. Many behavior and cognitive factors can play a role in the addiction.

TLDR: You're fighting pseudoscience with biased pseudopsychology

Onan story is about taking use of a widow.

that said, www.yourbrainonporn.com

It's not really the physical act of masturbation that is the problem.

It's what leads to it.

Masturbation is linked to lust, and that is a sin.

So stop having lustful thoughts towards women or simply get a wife.

This it?

books

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movies

https://8ch.net/christian/res/248985.html

>Heliocentric Hoax

http://lapidesclamabunt.angelfire.com/hoax.htm

>The Greatest Lie On Earth

http://www.amazon.com/The-Greatest-Lie-Earth-Moving/dp/1943056013

>Christian "Dark Age" is a myth

http://www.strangenotions.com/gods-philosophers/

>Theology & Eschatology

http://www.ichthys.com/

>100% accurate Biblical prophecies

http://www.reasons.org/articles/articles/fulfilled-prophecy-evidence-for-the-reliability-of-the-bible

>Atheist Professor gets BTFO by Christian kid

https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp

>Evolution Debunked

http://www.newgeology.us/presentation32.html

>Darwinism is the Greatest Deception

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMr278CMAIA

>Kent Hovind debunks Evolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shyI-aQaXD0

Complete mischaracterization of Pontius Pilate

Sometimes it seems this Pope only has a passing familiarity with Christianity. Did the Jews replace him with a body double or was he always like this

>>261861

I miss the last two Popes. I'm not even Catholic, but I admire the hell out of JP2 and the German guy. Stood firm and would not change to accommodate anti-Christians

>>261762

No logic, just fetish. Jorge Bergoglio has a cuck fetish.

>>261823

Nah, they kept quite after that fiasco. The misinterpretation defense is oft trotted out by the pontiff's defenders here.

>>260617

My thought was that Jesus was perfect so He always knew when it was right to be angry, while we are imperfect and although we can display righteous anger, we're still not righteous enough to have that right.

This thread speaks lengths to me. I am not a Christian (I agree with many teachings of Christ but do not adhere to them in a religious sense, just a philosophical one) but I have always lived a life led by anger. I suffered from anger issues as a child and had violent tendencies. I've always considered my anger to be a powerful, useful tool for dealing with life issues in spite of many psychiatrists and other mental healthcare specialists' attempts to curb my anger. I need to feel like I can stand my ground to make a point. I don't want to be a pushover and I want to protect myself from harm.

/christian/, I'm conflicted. I'm a naturally angry man and yet, I'm also a naturally kind man. I hate to be the generic "I can be a nice guy unless you get on my bad side!!" type but what is the worth in Christ's realm of someone like me? In the kingdom of God, where do I stand? I want to believe, /christian/. But I've always had a bit of a personal crisis as to what I'm capable of and what kind of person it makes me.

http://www.newadvent.org/summa/3158.htm#article8

>>261834

I would say my advice is that discretion is the better part of valor. Almost all instances of anger can screw you and set your goals back. It has purpose, but you cannot let it consume your or lead you to make short sighted decisions. Always plan long term.

As for your faith, it was the philosophy of Christ that has been my proof. Those who follow his teachings have a good life. They are frequently blessed with land and children and a good life, even a virgin wife.

Meanwhile those who do what is right in their own eyes (my parents) end up in a trailer smoking weed/Drinking beer all day raising a kid who isn't even theirs with a used up single mom.

I seriously don't care if there is a heaven. I am convinced this society of Christendom is Superior to the natural way. Is it a scam to make people be better citizens? Who cares, I love this society, and I hate the one I grew up in.

This is why I am convinced there is a God and he is our God.

>>261779

you can LARP and imitate Jesus after you've fasted for 40days and 40nights straight.

don't assume that the dream had divine origins OP

either way, obama shone a light allright

all of the ways be broke the law and should've been impeached by now, he shone a light on the corruption in america

what is the plan? it's probably marital law in order to establish the one-world government they want, the NWO and/or make obama have a third term

that so-called democracy spring stuff funded by george soros who works for the rothschilds aka redshields comes to mind, and they'd probably be on the third beam if "democracy spring" turns out the way they want it to

presumably he'd want to establish marital law either right before donald wins the nom, right when donald wins the nom, or right after donald wins the nom, or right on new year's eve

if you wanna know more about "democracy spring", theres a sticky on /pol/ about it

>>261868

I didn't have the interpretation, a possibility that came to my mind is that Obama is the antichrist, the name Lucifer (Hillel) means light bearer or crescent.

>>261870

Lookup this post and it totally fits, Something along these lines